EA Sport "NFL HEAD COACH" - Page 26

Ragone · 06-25-2006, 03:42 AM

yaya for cwill

Icy · 06-25-2006, 04:26 AM

Thanks a lot cwill. If this tool really works i'll buy the game, waiting for the ones that have it to confirm it.

GrantDawg · 06-25-2006, 07:33 AM

cwill:

"This application has failed to start because MFC71.DLL was not found. Re-installing may fix the problem"

Any help?

GrantDawg · 06-25-2006, 07:35 AM

Never mind. Found it on-line.

GrantDawg · 06-25-2006, 07:55 AM

For the record, the minute adjustment works. I don't know about the sliders yet, but at least that part can be adjusted with Cwill's work. Thanks man. You are a hero.

GrantDawg · 06-25-2006, 08:06 AM

As a side note, I turned auto-save off and simmed ahead (I was at the begining of training camp) to see if the minute change works. Goodness the injuries! I had about 8 starters out for significant time by the time it got to the first pre-season game. What sucked was that I couldn't change my depth chart except for two players pre-game! Once in the game, I had to make all of my adjustments as the game was playing behind me. That's just stupid. They really did make some stupid design desicion in this game.

BTW, I had no idea how long anyone predicted to be injured since the sim info flew by, and I can't find anywhere that tells you that information. There is so much that is missing or hard to get to in this game. I like the ideas behind much of it, but so much of it is not executed very well (and the fact that it is really a console port is mostly to blame).

Raiders Army · 06-25-2006, 09:39 AM

The minutes work great. I had decent stats for 8 minute quarters. I turned down the interceptions, but I think it was inconclusive since I was playing Vince Young against the Ravens in week 2. He had two interceptions with the second in the third quarter. He got injured on the second interception when he tried to make the tackle. Andrew Walter came in and on his first pass threw an interception. That's probably pretty realistic, but I'm not sure if the slider worked.

On a side note, I really like the fact that if my QB can't practice during the week it makes a huge difference. I also like the fact that I have to determine how much the 2nd string practices and how that affects their improvement/decline.

During practices, I've found that some will give you a 6-7% boost on the play (mostly just the pass skeleton and running contact practices) and the full offense/defense contact practices give you a 20% boost. I've been trying to get my plays to a 20%, 40%, 60%, or 80% level before the full offense/defense contact practices to maximize my money plays.

Raiders Army · 06-25-2006, 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrantDawg

BTW, I had no idea how long anyone predicted to be injured since the sim info flew by, and I can't find anywhere that tells you that information. There is so much that is missing or hard to get to in this game. I like the ideas behind much of it, but so much of it is not executed very well (and the fact that it is really a console port is mostly to blame).

You can find out how long they'll be out in the injury report. It's by their name when you pull them up. I have Vince Young pinched nerve-1 week

MizzouRah · 06-25-2006, 09:58 AM

Excellent! I just bought the game!!

Emiliano · 06-25-2006, 10:23 AM

I don't have the game, but thanks for doing this cwill. Awesome job. Now I'm tempted again...

Eaglesfan27 · 06-25-2006, 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cwilloughby

Allright...

Enough with the fake rumors :P.

Here is the first version of the setting application. Unzip the file and run the executable. Click Load and find your career file. Then edit to your delight. When done click Save. The program automatically creates a backup of the original when you save, it can be found as Career[#].bak in the appropriate career folder. As this is a 3rd party program that modifies your career files, use it at your own risk. While it is still in its infancy, I recomend keeping your own backups of everything before you let this little guy have his way with it.

At this point, you can set the quarter length, and sliders which affect the exhibition and career games for the career you edit. I didn't get a chance to test the sliders enough to know if there is a difference or not. If these sliders don't seem to work, there is at least one more set that I can try within the data file (go EA storing multiple copies of the same data in the save file).

Along the same lines, I couldn't get accelerated clock to work yet. It seems that either: A) EA has hardcoded this as disabled, which would make sense with all of the coach in between play crap, or B) I'm changing it in the wrong place (same possibility as the sliders above).

It would be nice if a few of you could test different slider settings to see if you notice a difference. Some of you have played the game far more than me, and would probably notice a difference. In the mean time, I'll continue testing and trying to track down the true location of the sliders (if currently wrong), and the possibility of making the accelerated clock work.

Enjoy!
Chris W.

Excellent! Thanks for your work on this. I'm trying it now.

Eaglesfan27 · 06-25-2006, 10:41 AM

Off to play my first game now. I'm going with 9 minute quarters and I turned interceptions for both sides all the way down. I also bumped QB accuracy and WR catching a bit. I'll let you know if it seems to have made a change in the stats in a bit.

Capital · 06-25-2006, 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

Off to play my first game now. I'm going with 9 minute quarters and I turned interceptions for both sides all the way down. I also bumped QB accuracy and WR catching a bit. I'll let you know if it seems to have made a change in the stats in a bit.

Thanks for the update as I am curious of the results. Also, how long does it take to play a game? Either with 5 minute quarters or the 9 minute quarters?

hawk4669 · 06-25-2006, 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrantDawg

Never mind. Found it on-line.

Getting the same message...the .dll error message.

I found the file online, but am unsure where to put it. Any thoughts?

Thanks in advance,

MizzouRah · 06-25-2006, 11:19 AM

Press [ from the playcalling screen to see a replay, challenge a play, or call a timeout.

Someone asked this a bit ago.

Let us know how the new settings work EF!

hawk4669 · 06-25-2006, 11:25 AM

Nevermind...answered my own question.

Cheers!

cwilloughby · 06-25-2006, 12:06 PM

Thanks for the kind words guys!

Unfortunately, as I suspected it looks like the set of sliders that I am modifying within the career are the wrong ones. I'll look into it a little more tonight, and hopefully I can map it up to the right set.

I'll keep you posted.
Chris W.

Raiders Army · 06-25-2006, 12:08 PM

Awesome man. Regardless of the sliders, just modifying the quarters is a giant leap towards accurate stats.

dbd1963 · 06-25-2006, 12:17 PM

I'm still seeing a few interceptions in practice after bumping the sliders down 30 notches on each side. I see that CWil didn't think these were the right sliders. I can't say that the INTs were excessive though, they looked legit. But I had never noticed the INT problem in practice anyway. Haven't been able to play long enough to get to the next game.

I wonder if 8 minutes is too long, conisdering that 5 minutes very nearly gets you to NFL average. It looks about 10% off at 5 minutes. Maybe 6 minutes is enough. I'm trying 7 minute quarters, but don't think I can get back to this game today. Lots of things to do.

jbmagic · 06-25-2006, 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raiders Army

Awesome man. Regardless of the sliders, just modifying the quarters is a giant leap towards accurate stats.

That awesome news.

How is the sim stats looking? Pretty realistic?

Raiders Army · 06-25-2006, 12:30 PM

8 minutes appeared to be too long. I only played one game and there were about 200 yds passing and 140 yds rushing for both the Raiders and Ravens. I'll see what happens in week four with 7 minute quarters.

MizzouRah · 06-25-2006, 12:39 PM

I can't even get the game to install, shit. Works fine when I try on my kids pc. The splash screen comes up, then I click install.. cd spins up and nothing after that. Weird.

duckman · 06-25-2006, 12:51 PM

Gremlins.

dbd1963 · 06-25-2006, 01:04 PM

I had that problem too, and it turned out to be related to my CD/DVD drive drivers. See if you've got the latest drivers instaled.

If I got it working on this Dell laptop, which gawd only knows what is wrong with it but everything that can go wrong does.. then most people can probably get it running.

Eaglesfan27 · 06-25-2006, 01:16 PM

Ok, I just finished my first game. I think it took about an hour and 20 minutes to play with 9 minute quarters. I had to do a few practices before I started the game.

First the good:

- I loved how the Ravens worked the run and the play action.

- I told McNabb to not force it in, and to scramble if he didn't see anyone open after 3 progressions, he did that well.

- Jamal Lewis was a beast to stop. If I didn't have at least 2 men around him, I was likely screwed.

- The CPU will sub guys in if the starter is dead tired without you doing it. Westbrook was subbed out and Addai in during the 1st half for me without me doing it.

- I loved the flow of the game. Despite unrealistic pancakes, the O-Line D-Line interaction felt good.

- Both Carter and Detmer looked very bad on some deep throws where they underthrew the guy, overthrew the guy, or just threw it way wide.

- Based upon the stats, Carter only threw 2 interceptions all game, and McNabb and Detmer each only threw one in a half, I think the sliders ARE the right sliders. However, I'll play another game (or 5

) over the next few hours and will post further stats to see if it is really working.

The bad: Lito Sheppard muffed 2 punts. Hopefully, it was just an aberation. Both were he just dropped it before even being hit.

McNabb threw it into his O-lineman's back on one play.

My receivers dropped a lot of balls, but we did have a bad week of practice according to my receivers coach, so this could actually be a good thing. I just hope if I get a very good possession receiver, he isn't dropping this many balls.

Onto the stats:

135 total plays from scrimmage with 9 minute quarters. This is despite the Ravens having a 10 point lead and working the clock down to 3 seconds left with 4 minutes left in the 4th quarter. By the way, I'd hate to see the CPU do this with 5 minute quarters!

Ravens beat us 27-17.

Eagles Stats:

In a half, McNabb 9 of 22 for 100 yards, 0 TD, 1 INT. I counted 6 dropped balls, including 3 by Peerless Price (why did I sign him to a relatively big deal?

). McNabb was sacked twice as well.

Koy Detmer 5 of 15 for 69 yards, 0 TD, INT, 2 sacks. (I counted 3 dropped balls.)

Westbrook: 10 carries for 38 yards, long of 9. In a half.

Addai: 10 carries for 53 yards, long of 32, 1 TD. Oh yeah, the CPU does sub guys in if the starter is tired. Addai got the 32 yard TD in the 1st half when he was subbed in for Westbrook for a play or two.

McNabb 7 carries for 52 yards (I told him not to force it in and to scramble if he got through his 3rd read without seeing anyone open.) Long of 18.

L.J. Smith led the team with 4 catches for 42 yards, 1 drop.

R. Brown had 3 catches for 34 yards with 1 drop.

C. Jackson, the rookie, had 1 catch for 24 yards. 2 drops.

Westbrook 1 catch for 23 yards, 0 drops.

Peerless Price, 2 catches for 22 yards, 3 drops.

Ritchie, 2 catches for 20 yards, 0 drops.

Addai 1 catch for 4 yards, 0 drops.

Dawkins led the team with 11 tackles. Trotter had 10 tackles.

Kearse had 3 sacks. Walker had 1 sack.

Dawkins and Sheppard each had 1 interception.

Akers made 1 of 2 FG (made 27, missed 55)

R. Plackeimer, my rookie punter, had 7 punts for 36.1 avg with a shank of 19 on one play.

L. Sheppard had 5 KR for 90 yards, long of 28.

He had 1 PR for a return of 11 yards.

Ravens Stats:

Quincy Carter: 15 of 30 for 213 yards with 2 TD 2 INT, 4 sacks. Long of 54.

Jamal Lewis had 24 carries for 126 yards, 1 TD, long of 57.

Chester Taylor 13 carries for 28 yards.

Quincy Carter 4 carries for 12 yards.

D. Mason had 5 catches for 82 yards, 1 TD, 0 Drops, long of 54.

C. Moore had 2 catches for 44 yards, 1 TD, 2 drops.

T. Heap had 3 catches for 37 yards, 1 drop.

Clayton had 2 catches for 27 yards. 1 drop. He burnt me on one play and was wide open deep, but Quincy overthrew him on that play.

Ray Lewis led the team with 12 tackles. E. Reed had 10 tackles.

A. Weaver lead the team with 3 sacks.

C. Mcalister and E. Reed each had a pick.

S. Rolle led the team with 2 passes defended.

D. Zastuvil had 6 punts for 34.3 avg.

D. Mason had 1 KR for 14 yards.

I'm debating on dropping down to 8 minute quarters as the play total is a bit high. However, I'm MUCH happier with these stats post sliders.

Eaglesfan27 · 06-25-2006, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by cwilloughby

Thanks for the kind words guys!

Unfortunately, as I suspected it looks like the set of sliders that I am modifying within the career are the wrong ones. I'll look into it a little more tonight, and hopefully I can map it up to the right set.

I'll keep you posted.
Chris W.

If it isn't the right slider sets, I'm amazed that I didn't have more interceptions against Carter in a long game.

Eaglesfan27 · 06-25-2006, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by MizzouRah

I can't even get the game to install, shit. Works fine when I try on my kids pc. The splash screen comes up, then I click install.. cd spins up and nothing after that. Weird.

Sorry to hear that you and others are having problems. It installed on both my main computer and my laptop with no issues.

astrosfan64 · 06-25-2006, 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duckman

Thank you for your thoughtful insight....

More details.

Interface is terrible.

The fact that you can only do two depth chart movements per coach time is terrible.

The slowness between phases is terrible.

Hiring coaches is terrible, the interview is garbage.

For daily Practice, the fact I have to run each play is terrible.

I don't even really like the gameplay mode. Playcalling is terrible.

Good concept, terrible implementation. I wasted my money.

GrantDawg · 06-25-2006, 01:28 PM

Alright, played my first preseaon game with 8 minute quarters. CW is right that the sliders are not working. After turning interceptons all the way down, and bumping accuracy up, Tom Brady threw 4 intereceptions and Vick threw 3. I won 41-16, and with the Pats only TD coming from an interception. Vick went 11-24, and Brady went 23-46. Completetions were way too low, and open field tackling horrible. Of course, both of those things might be flukes considering it was one game. The interceptions are a flaw that is carried over from Madden coach-mode.

There were some positives. Punt returners didn't fumble every third punt like in Maddem coch-mode, and they will call for a fair catch. There was also regular subbing for fatigue. I wish the whole team subbed out in the Pre-season like in Madden (btw, if you change the roster in game does it stay that way once it is over?).

There were no injuries, so that is a concern. There probably were too many plays as well. What is the average plays-per-game?

Eaglesfan27 · 06-25-2006, 01:32 PM

Ok, I guess my game with Quincy Carter was an aberation if Brady threw 4 picks. If you make depth chart changes in game, they don't carry over after the game.

Eaglesfan27 · 06-25-2006, 01:34 PM

Dola -

I believe average plays per game is about 120. Despite that bad game you had with picks, I'm going to go ahead and play another pre-season game, this time with 8 minute quarters. I don't care too much if I end up with a high number of picks in pre-season. I'll post results after the game again.

jbmagic · 06-25-2006, 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrantDawg

Alright, played my first preseaon game with 8 minute quarters. CW is right that the sliders are not working. After turning interceptons all the way down, and bumping accuracy up, Tom Brady threw 4 intereceptions and Vick threw 3. I won 41-16, and with the Pats only TD coming from an interception. Vick went 11-24, and Brady went 23-46. Completetions were way too low, and open field tackling horrible. Of course, both of those things might be flukes considering it was one game. The interceptions are a flaw that is carried over from Madden coach-mode.

There were some positives. Punt returners didn't fumble every third punt like in Maddem coch-mode, and they will call for a fair catch. There was also regular subbing for fatigue. I wish the whole team subbed out in the Pre-season like in Madden (btw, if you change the roster in game does it stay that way once it is over?).

There were no injuries, so that is a concern. There probably were too many plays as well. What is the average plays-per-game?

NFL averages about 120-125 plays per game. Probably 6 or 7 mins quaters, non accerlation will get close to that.

Also read to lower interceptions is to talk to the QB and Practice some plays with your QB. I don't know if that will help.

MizzouRah · 06-25-2006, 01:35 PM

Quote:

135 total plays from scrimmage with 9 minute quarters. This is despite the Ravens having a 10 point lead and working the clock down to 3 seconds left with 4 minutes left in the 4th quarter. By the way, I'd hate to see the CPU do this with 5 minute quarters!

Encouraging, thanks!

GrantDawg · 06-25-2006, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbmagic

NFL averages about 120-125 plays per game. Probably 6 or 7 mins quaters, non accerlation will get close to that.

Also read to lower interceptions is to talk to the QB and Practice some plays with your QB. I don't know if that will help.

But how does that help cut down on opponents int's? That's the problem. Vick throwing three (especially this game's Vick) is no biggy. But Brady throwing 4 with a 50% completion rate? Definite problem.

Neuqua · 06-25-2006, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by astrosfan64

I wasted my money.

So give it to a poor college student (me) and you'll have the sound mind of knowing your money was put to good use

jbmagic · 06-25-2006, 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrantDawg

But how does that help cut down on opponents int's? That's the problem. Vick throwing three (especially this game's Vick) is no biggy. But Brady throwing 4 with a 50% completion rate? Definite problem.

Good point.

I hope the sliders when fix will help with that.

GrantDawg · 06-25-2006, 01:46 PM

Does that 120-125 include xp and kick-offs?

Eaglesfan27 · 06-25-2006, 02:27 PM

About to start my 8 minute quarter against the Steelers now. After a rough start to the week, I have McNabb looking good in practice, while my scouts think Big Ben looks relatively bad at the moment. I'll post stats after the game.

jbmagic · 06-25-2006, 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrantDawg

Does that 120-125 include xp and kick-offs?

In 2005 the NFL average 125 plays per game total between both teams.

It includes runs, passing,fg attempts, punts and kickoffs.

http://www.nfl.com/stats/teamsort/NF...r?sort_col_1=4

There was 32,021 total plays between the 32 teams in the NFL in 2005

32,021/32 teams=1000.66

1000.66/16 games=62.54

62.54 x 2 teams=125 total plays per game

Raiders Army · 06-25-2006, 02:43 PM

Quick question on talking to your players. When you choose strategy instead of motivation, how do you finalize it? I pick all of the options, but I'm unable to continue. The only thing I see is to cancel out.

jbmagic · 06-25-2006, 02:49 PM

I read this at operation Sports forum

Quote:

NO IN-GAME or IN-PRACTICE INURIES in the game at all. The only way to get injury in this game is to sim a practice or a game

Is this true for those who have the game?

kcchief19 · 06-25-2006, 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrantDawg

But how does that help cut down on opponents int's? That's the problem. Vick throwing three (especially this game's Vick) is no biggy. But Brady throwing 4 with a 50% completion rate? Definite problem.

From Tom Brady's real-life game log:

Date

Opp

Cmp

Att

Pct

Yds

Yds/Att

TD

Int

1st

Sck

Rtg

Nov. 27

KC

22

40

55.0

248

6.2

1

4

14

3

42.5

It's a problem if it happens 5 times out of 16 -- it's not if it happens 1 out of 16 times.

Moss84 · 06-25-2006, 03:18 PM

I have the Xbox version.

The only time I have seen injuries is when you do sim through your practice time or games. I have not seen a player go down with an injury in practice or during a game at all.

I have also read that the game engine is from Madden 2006. In my experiments in the past using Madden 2006 in coach mode, it was difficult to decrease the amount of interceptions even with the adjusted sliders. (increasing QB awareness and WR catch)

The only real bug/glitch that I have seen during a game (besides the Madden come back code) is when your QB play actions with a RB, turns around and throws it in thte wrong direction for a fumble that the defense always returns for a TD. I have seen this happen twice now.

I enjoy the game very much. I think it is a step in the right direction for EA.

Raiders Army · 06-25-2006, 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbmagic

I read this at operation Sports forum

Is this true for those who have the game?

Not true. I had Vince Young get injured in my last game.

bselig · 06-25-2006, 03:41 PM

I've been running Vince Young 30+ times a game and he hasn't been hurt so far.

Eaglesfan27 · 06-25-2006, 03:59 PM

I haven't seen any injuries during practice or games yet. Maybe that can be changed via sliders at some point, since RA has had it happen at least once.

I think these sliders might be the real sliders. I maxed out WR catching this game, and each WR corp only had 1 dropped ball. Big Ben did throw 3 picks, but two of them were late in the game when he was forcing it in since his side was down.

Overall, another very fun game.

We beat the Steelers 28-14. We ran 66 plays. They ran 44. However, I strategized much more in this game and therefore ate more clock. Also, I ran the ball over 40 times counting McNabb's scrambles. That eats clock and leads to less plays. Therefore, I think 8 minutes is going to be the sweet spot for me. It took me an hour and 20 minutes to play 8 minute quarters.

Stats:

McNabb 16 of 24 for 197 yards with 3 TD's 1 INT and 2 sacks.

Addai 18 carries for 76 yards with a long of 12.

Westbrook 18 carries for 42 yards with 1 TD. Long of 7.

McNabb 5 carries for 51 yards long of 22.

Ritchie 1 carry for 4 yards.

Price 4 catches for 70 yards. He had my only drop.

L.J. Smith 5 catches for 53 yards, 3 TD's. McNabb was looking for him everytime we entered the red zone.

C. Jackson 3 catches for 42 yards.

Westbrook 1 catch for 20 yards.

Ritchie 3 catches for 12 yards.

Sheppard led the team with 6 tackles. Dawkins and Trotter each had 5 more.

Kearse led the team with 2 sacks. 4 other guys had 1.

S. Brown led the team with 2 INT's. Dawkins had 1 too.

R. Plackmeier had 5 punts with an average of 36.1

Sheppard had 2 KR with a 14.0 avg.

Sheppard had 3 PR with a 9.0 avg. Long of 12.

Big Ben was 9 of 16 for 86 yards, 1 TD, 3 INT. It was raining. I'm not sure if that mattered. He was also sacked 6 times, and we got constant pressure on him.

Bettis (he didn't retire after the SB in this game) had 18 carries for 56 yards. Willie Parker was out injured.

Staley had 3 carries for 8 yards.

Krieder had 1 carry for 4 yards.

Hines Ward had 4 catches for 50 yards and a TD. They had 5 other receivers with 1 catch. Only 1 drop among them.

T. Polamalu led the team with 12 tackles. J. Farrior had 9 tackles.

Farrior lead the team with 2 sacks.

D. Townsend had their only pick which he returned 71 yards for a TD (it was a pass into the flat that he jumped.)

C. Gardocki had 7 punts for a 36.5 avg.

A. Randel-El had 4 KR avg of 21.0.

Eaglesfan27 · 06-25-2006, 04:02 PM

Dola -

Oh yeah. As if there was any doubt that this was based on Madden, Pittsburgh had a chance to stop us on 3rd and 1 with about 4 minutes to go in a pivotal play. The camera switched from my pressbox to the dramatic camera that first started appearing in either Madden 05 or 06 and the heartbeat sound could be heard.

jbmagic · 06-25-2006, 04:11 PM

Going to pick this game up today at Best Buy for 29.99.

Seems like you guys are having fun with it.

How the end of game decisions by the AI teams? Is the AI being smart when they have a lead and when they are behind at end of games?

Oilers9911 · 06-25-2006, 04:28 PM

Great job by CWill with the utility but how pathetic is it that people like CWill have to create such a utility at all? The great EA can't even produce a realistic game without the help of one of their customers. And ONE person is reporting ONE in-game injury? That is a total joke.

MizzouRah · 06-25-2006, 04:29 PM

Anyone have a Liteon cd rom or dvd player? Both my dvd and cd rom are Liteon players and I still can't get this friggin game to install.

Shit!

06-25-2006, 04:26 AM	#1252
Icy Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Toledo - Spain	Thanks a lot cwill. If this tool really works i'll buy the game, waiting for the ones that have it to confirm it. __________________

06-25-2006, 10:23 AM	#1260
Emiliano College Prospect Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nuremberg, Germany	I don't have the game, but thanks for doing this cwill. Awesome job. Now I'm tempted again... __________________ Xbox Live&PSN: Emiliano81 GM of the Rome Gladiators in the WOOF

06-25-2006, 10:41 AM	#1262
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	Off to play my first game now. I'm going with 9 minute quarters and I turned interceptions for both sides all the way down. I also bumped QB accuracy and WR catching a bit. I'll let you know if it seems to have made a change in the stats in a bit. __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen.

06-25-2006, 11:25 AM	#1266
hawk4669 High School JV Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Northern California	Nevermind...answered my own question. Cheers! __________________ Hawk4669 www.hbfire.org

06-25-2006, 12:06 PM	#1267
cwilloughby Mascot Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	Thanks for the kind words guys! Unfortunately, as I suspected it looks like the set of sliders that I am modifying within the career are the wrong ones. I'll look into it a little more tonight, and hopefully I can map it up to the right set. I'll keep you posted. Chris W. Last edited by cwilloughby : 06-25-2006 at 12:07 PM.

06-25-2006, 03:42 AM	#1251
Ragone Pro Rookie Join Date: May 2002 Location: Kansas City, Mo	yaya for cwill

06-25-2006, 07:33 AM	#1253
GrantDawg World Champion Mis-speller Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Covington, Ga.	cwill: "This application has failed to start because MFC71.DLL was not found. Re-installing may fix the problem" Any help?

06-25-2006, 07:35 AM	#1254
GrantDawg World Champion Mis-speller Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Covington, Ga.	Never mind. Found it on-line.

06-25-2006, 07:55 AM	#1255
GrantDawg World Champion Mis-speller Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Covington, Ga.	For the record, the minute adjustment works. I don't know about the sliders yet, but at least that part can be adjusted with Cwill's work. Thanks man. You are a hero.

06-25-2006, 08:06 AM	#1256
GrantDawg World Champion Mis-speller Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Covington, Ga.	As a side note, I turned auto-save off and simmed ahead (I was at the begining of training camp) to see if the minute change works. Goodness the injuries! I had about 8 starters out for significant time by the time it got to the first pre-season game. What sucked was that I couldn't change my depth chart except for two players pre-game! Once in the game, I had to make all of my adjustments as the game was playing behind me. That's just stupid. They really did make some stupid design desicion in this game. BTW, I had no idea how long anyone predicted to be injured since the sim info flew by, and I can't find anywhere that tells you that information. There is so much that is missing or hard to get to in this game. I like the ideas behind much of it, but so much of it is not executed very well (and the fact that it is really a console port is mostly to blame).

06-25-2006, 09:39 AM	#1257
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	The minutes work great. I had decent stats for 8 minute quarters. I turned down the interceptions, but I think it was inconclusive since I was playing Vince Young against the Ravens in week 2. He had two interceptions with the second in the third quarter. He got injured on the second interception when he tried to make the tackle. Andrew Walter came in and on his first pass threw an interception. That's probably pretty realistic, but I'm not sure if the slider worked. On a side note, I really like the fact that if my QB can't practice during the week it makes a huge difference. I also like the fact that I have to determine how much the 2nd string practices and how that affects their improvement/decline. During practices, I've found that some will give you a 6-7% boost on the play (mostly just the pass skeleton and running contact practices) and the full offense/defense contact practices give you a 20% boost. I've been trying to get my plays to a 20%, 40%, 60%, or 80% level before the full offense/defense contact practices to maximize my money plays.

06-25-2006, 09:58 AM	#1259
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Troy, Mo	Excellent! I just bought the game!!

06-25-2006, 11:19 AM	#1265
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Troy, Mo	Press [ from the playcalling screen to see a replay, challenge a play, or call a timeout. Someone asked this a bit ago. Let us know how the new settings work EF!

06-25-2006, 12:08 PM	#1268
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	Awesome man. Regardless of the sliders, just modifying the quarters is a giant leap towards accurate stats.

06-25-2006, 12:17 PM	#1269
dbd1963 High School JV Join Date: Jun 2006	I'm still seeing a few interceptions in practice after bumping the sliders down 30 notches on each side. I see that CWil didn't think these were the right sliders. I can't say that the INTs were excessive though, they looked legit. But I had never noticed the INT problem in practice anyway. Haven't been able to play long enough to get to the next game. I wonder if 8 minutes is too long, conisdering that 5 minutes very nearly gets you to NFL average. It looks about 10% off at 5 minutes. Maybe 6 minutes is enough. I'm trying 7 minute quarters, but don't think I can get back to this game today. Lots of things to do.

06-25-2006, 12:30 PM	#1271
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	8 minutes appeared to be too long. I only played one game and there were about 200 yds passing and 140 yds rushing for both the Raiders and Ravens. I'll see what happens in week four with 7 minute quarters.

06-25-2006, 12:39 PM	#1272
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Troy, Mo	I can't even get the game to install, shit. Works fine when I try on my kids pc. The splash screen comes up, then I click install.. cd spins up and nothing after that. Weird.

06-25-2006, 01:04 PM	#1274
dbd1963 High School JV Join Date: Jun 2006	I had that problem too, and it turned out to be related to my CD/DVD drive drivers. See if you've got the latest drivers instaled. If I got it working on this Dell laptop, which gawd only knows what is wrong with it but everything that can go wrong does.. then most people can probably get it running.

06-25-2006, 01:16 PM	#1275
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	Ok, I just finished my first game. I think it took about an hour and 20 minutes to play with 9 minute quarters. I had to do a few practices before I started the game. First the good: - I loved how the Ravens worked the run and the play action. - I told McNabb to not force it in, and to scramble if he didn't see anyone open after 3 progressions, he did that well. - Jamal Lewis was a beast to stop. If I didn't have at least 2 men around him, I was likely screwed. - The CPU will sub guys in if the starter is dead tired without you doing it. Westbrook was subbed out and Addai in during the 1st half for me without me doing it. - I loved the flow of the game. Despite unrealistic pancakes, the O-Line D-Line interaction felt good. - Both Carter and Detmer looked very bad on some deep throws where they underthrew the guy, overthrew the guy, or just threw it way wide. - Based upon the stats, Carter only threw 2 interceptions all game, and McNabb and Detmer each only threw one in a half, I think the sliders ARE the right sliders. However, I'll play another game (or 5 ) over the next few hours and will post further stats to see if it is really working. The bad: Lito Sheppard muffed 2 punts. Hopefully, it was just an aberation. Both were he just dropped it before even being hit. McNabb threw it into his O-lineman's back on one play. My receivers dropped a lot of balls, but we did have a bad week of practice according to my receivers coach, so this could actually be a good thing. I just hope if I get a very good possession receiver, he isn't dropping this many balls. Onto the stats: 135 total plays from scrimmage with 9 minute quarters. This is despite the Ravens having a 10 point lead and working the clock down to 3 seconds left with 4 minutes left in the 4th quarter. By the way, I'd hate to see the CPU do this with 5 minute quarters! Ravens beat us 27-17. Eagles Stats: In a half, McNabb 9 of 22 for 100 yards, 0 TD, 1 INT. I counted 6 dropped balls, including 3 by Peerless Price (why did I sign him to a relatively big deal? ). McNabb was sacked twice as well. Koy Detmer 5 of 15 for 69 yards, 0 TD, INT, 2 sacks. (I counted 3 dropped balls.) Westbrook: 10 carries for 38 yards, long of 9. In a half. Addai: 10 carries for 53 yards, long of 32, 1 TD. Oh yeah, the CPU does sub guys in if the starter is tired. Addai got the 32 yard TD in the 1st half when he was subbed in for Westbrook for a play or two. McNabb 7 carries for 52 yards (I told him not to force it in and to scramble if he got through his 3rd read without seeing anyone open.) Long of 18. L.J. Smith led the team with 4 catches for 42 yards, 1 drop. R. Brown had 3 catches for 34 yards with 1 drop. C. Jackson, the rookie, had 1 catch for 24 yards. 2 drops. Westbrook 1 catch for 23 yards, 0 drops. Peerless Price, 2 catches for 22 yards, 3 drops. Ritchie, 2 catches for 20 yards, 0 drops. Addai 1 catch for 4 yards, 0 drops. Dawkins led the team with 11 tackles. Trotter had 10 tackles. Kearse had 3 sacks. Walker had 1 sack. Dawkins and Sheppard each had 1 interception. Akers made 1 of 2 FG (made 27, missed 55) R. Plackeimer, my rookie punter, had 7 punts for 36.1 avg with a shank of 19 on one play. L. Sheppard had 5 KR for 90 yards, long of 28. He had 1 PR for a return of 11 yards. Ravens Stats: Quincy Carter: 15 of 30 for 213 yards with 2 TD 2 INT, 4 sacks. Long of 54. Jamal Lewis had 24 carries for 126 yards, 1 TD, long of 57. Chester Taylor 13 carries for 28 yards. Quincy Carter 4 carries for 12 yards. D. Mason had 5 catches for 82 yards, 1 TD, 0 Drops, long of 54. C. Moore had 2 catches for 44 yards, 1 TD, 2 drops. T. Heap had 3 catches for 37 yards, 1 drop. Clayton had 2 catches for 27 yards. 1 drop. He burnt me on one play and was wide open deep, but Quincy overthrew him on that play. Ray Lewis led the team with 12 tackles. E. Reed had 10 tackles. A. Weaver lead the team with 3 sacks. C. Mcalister and E. Reed each had a pick. S. Rolle led the team with 2 passes defended. D. Zastuvil had 6 punts for 34.3 avg. D. Mason had 1 KR for 14 yards. I'm debating on dropping down to 8 minute quarters as the play total is a bit high. However, I'm MUCH happier with these stats post sliders. __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen.

06-25-2006, 01:28 PM	#1279
GrantDawg World Champion Mis-speller Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Covington, Ga.	Alright, played my first preseaon game with 8 minute quarters. CW is right that the sliders are not working. After turning interceptons all the way down, and bumping accuracy up, Tom Brady threw 4 intereceptions and Vick threw 3. I won 41-16, and with the Pats only TD coming from an interception. Vick went 11-24, and Brady went 23-46. Completetions were way too low, and open field tackling horrible. Of course, both of those things might be flukes considering it was one game. The interceptions are a flaw that is carried over from Madden coach-mode. There were some positives. Punt returners didn't fumble every third punt like in Maddem coch-mode, and they will call for a fair catch. There was also regular subbing for fatigue. I wish the whole team subbed out in the Pre-season like in Madden (btw, if you change the roster in game does it stay that way once it is over?). There were no injuries, so that is a concern. There probably were too many plays as well. What is the average plays-per-game?

06-25-2006, 01:32 PM	#1280
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	Ok, I guess my game with Quincy Carter was an aberation if Brady threw 4 picks. If you make depth chart changes in game, they don't carry over after the game. __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen.

06-25-2006, 01:34 PM	#1281
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	Dola - I believe average plays per game is about 120. Despite that bad game you had with picks, I'm going to go ahead and play another pre-season game, this time with 8 minute quarters. I don't care too much if I end up with a high number of picks in pre-season. I'll post results after the game again. __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen.

06-25-2006, 01:46 PM	#1287
GrantDawg World Champion Mis-speller Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Covington, Ga.	Does that 120-125 include xp and kick-offs? Last edited by GrantDawg : 06-25-2006 at 01:46 PM.

06-25-2006, 02:27 PM	#1288
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	About to start my 8 minute quarter against the Steelers now. After a rough start to the week, I have McNabb looking good in practice, while my scouts think Big Ben looks relatively bad at the moment. I'll post stats after the game. __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen.

06-25-2006, 02:43 PM	#1290
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	Quick question on talking to your players. When you choose strategy instead of motivation, how do you finalize it? I pick all of the options, but I'm unable to continue. The only thing I see is to cancel out.

06-25-2006, 03:18 PM	#1293
Moss84 n00b Join Date: Apr 2005	I have the Xbox version. The only time I have seen injuries is when you do sim through your practice time or games. I have not seen a player go down with an injury in practice or during a game at all. I have also read that the game engine is from Madden 2006. In my experiments in the past using Madden 2006 in coach mode, it was difficult to decrease the amount of interceptions even with the adjusted sliders. (increasing QB awareness and WR catch) The only real bug/glitch that I have seen during a game (besides the Madden come back code) is when your QB play actions with a RB, turns around and throws it in thte wrong direction for a fumble that the defense always returns for a TD. I have seen this happen twice now. I enjoy the game very much. I think it is a step in the right direction for EA.

06-25-2006, 03:41 PM	#1295
bselig n00b Join Date: May 2005	I've been running Vince Young 30+ times a game and he hasn't been hurt so far.

06-25-2006, 03:59 PM	#1296
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	I haven't seen any injuries during practice or games yet. Maybe that can be changed via sliders at some point, since RA has had it happen at least once. I think these sliders might be the real sliders. I maxed out WR catching this game, and each WR corp only had 1 dropped ball. Big Ben did throw 3 picks, but two of them were late in the game when he was forcing it in since his side was down. Overall, another very fun game. We beat the Steelers 28-14. We ran 66 plays. They ran 44. However, I strategized much more in this game and therefore ate more clock. Also, I ran the ball over 40 times counting McNabb's scrambles. That eats clock and leads to less plays. Therefore, I think 8 minutes is going to be the sweet spot for me. It took me an hour and 20 minutes to play 8 minute quarters. Stats: McNabb 16 of 24 for 197 yards with 3 TD's 1 INT and 2 sacks. Addai 18 carries for 76 yards with a long of 12. Westbrook 18 carries for 42 yards with 1 TD. Long of 7. McNabb 5 carries for 51 yards long of 22. Ritchie 1 carry for 4 yards. Price 4 catches for 70 yards. He had my only drop. L.J. Smith 5 catches for 53 yards, 3 TD's. McNabb was looking for him everytime we entered the red zone. C. Jackson 3 catches for 42 yards. Westbrook 1 catch for 20 yards. Ritchie 3 catches for 12 yards. Sheppard led the team with 6 tackles. Dawkins and Trotter each had 5 more. Kearse led the team with 2 sacks. 4 other guys had 1. S. Brown led the team with 2 INT's. Dawkins had 1 too. R. Plackmeier had 5 punts with an average of 36.1 Sheppard had 2 KR with a 14.0 avg. Sheppard had 3 PR with a 9.0 avg. Long of 12. Big Ben was 9 of 16 for 86 yards, 1 TD, 3 INT. It was raining. I'm not sure if that mattered. He was also sacked 6 times, and we got constant pressure on him. Bettis (he didn't retire after the SB in this game) had 18 carries for 56 yards. Willie Parker was out injured. Staley had 3 carries for 8 yards. Krieder had 1 carry for 4 yards. Hines Ward had 4 catches for 50 yards and a TD. They had 5 other receivers with 1 catch. Only 1 drop among them. T. Polamalu led the team with 12 tackles. J. Farrior had 9 tackles. Farrior lead the team with 2 sacks. D. Townsend had their only pick which he returned 71 yards for a TD (it was a pass into the flat that he jumped.) C. Gardocki had 7 punts for a 36.5 avg. A. Randel-El had 4 KR avg of 21.0. __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen. Last edited by Eaglesfan27 : 06-25-2006 at 04:00 PM.

06-25-2006, 04:02 PM	#1297
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	Dola - Oh yeah. As if there was any doubt that this was based on Madden, Pittsburgh had a chance to stop us on 3rd and 1 with about 4 minutes to go in a pivotal play. The camera switched from my pressbox to the dramatic camera that first started appearing in either Madden 05 or 06 and the heartbeat sound could be heard. __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen.

06-25-2006, 04:11 PM	#1298
jbmagic Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2004	Going to pick this game up today at Best Buy for 29.99. Seems like you guys are having fun with it. How the end of game decisions by the AI teams? Is the AI being smart when they have a lead and when they are behind at end of games?

06-25-2006, 04:28 PM	#1299
Oilers9911 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2006	Great job by CWill with the utility but how pathetic is it that people like CWill have to create such a utility at all? The great EA can't even produce a realistic game without the help of one of their customers. And ONE person is reporting ONE in-game injury? That is a total joke.

06-25-2006, 04:29 PM	#1300
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Troy, Mo	Anyone have a Liteon cd rom or dvd player? Both my dvd and cd rom are Liteon players and I still can't get this friggin game to install. Shit!

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