Historical Nation Draft - Page 26

ntndeacon · 05-20-2009, 05:38 PM

To kinda link on with Abe's picks per round I thought Iwould toss in my view as well.
Best Picks per round:
Round 1: Izulde The Red Baron. A strong pick in perhaps the weekest category
Round 2: Danny -Gandhi. There were several very solid picks here, this is slightly above a couple others
Round 3:Coffee Warlord-Shakespeare. in a basically pre 20th century round snAagging the best writer was a good get here.
Round 4:Izulde-Hammurabi. This went in a different direction than I expected and started several picks dealing with creating codes of law
Round 5:surrt-Churchill. a very solid diplomat and a steal in this round.
Round 6:Izulde --Gallileo another round with several close together at the top, where the one named eeked out a place over several other worthy contestants
Round 7

T -Metternich. A good pick in a round with a lot of average picks filling up categories.
Round 8:Barkeep Yin sun-sin. This was a barely one again. I actually had another wrote down before I changed it.
Round 9:Barkeep-Suliman. A great pick at a crowded position
Round 10:Coffee Warlord: Dunant Perhaps this is because Ihad him pegged as who Iwanted, that Isaw this a a great grab in a quickly narrowing field of suspects
Round 11:Abe: Michelangelo. I thought it was a brilliant pick at the time and after looking at others picked that round it still apears to be so.

There are a couple of my picks I thought about putting in there. but it would have only been a couple.

Abe Sargent · 05-20-2009, 06:15 PM

Slooooooooooowwwwwwww

Surtt · 05-20-2009, 06:23 PM

Did anyone PM Barkeep?

Abe Sargent · 05-20-2009, 06:23 PM

He hasn;t logged on since 1:00 this afternoon

Abe Sargent · 05-20-2009, 10:32 PM

Is there a "You Took Too Long" rule?

Lathum · 05-20-2009, 10:33 PM

this draft has been fun but I think there were 2 to many catergories

Noop · 05-20-2009, 10:39 PM

I wish the rule was you can pick two of the same category except different eras.

i.e.
Leader: George Washington Pre 20th Ronald Reagen 20th
Both American.

Galaril · 05-20-2009, 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Surtt

Did anyone PM Barkeep?

I vote if he does not select by 900 am tomorrow he be passed and his pick go to the end of the round.

Abe Sargent · 05-20-2009, 11:18 PM

I think we should just NFL Draft rule it. If it goes after a certain ;length of time, the draft goes on, but if you show back up, you can make your pick immediately.

Abe Sargent · 05-20-2009, 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum

this draft has been fun but I think there were 2 to many catergories

I think if I were to run this on another board, I'd drop the two non-people categories and add one: thinker. That's it though.

Galaril · 05-20-2009, 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abe Sargent

I think if I were to run this on another board, I'd drop the two non-people categories and add one: thinker. That's it though.

Isn't it covered already by philosopher more or less?

ntndeacon · 05-20-2009, 11:38 PM

we didn't have a philosopher category

larrymcg421 · 05-20-2009, 11:42 PM

After starting the draft, I thought of thinker and explorer, but we had already gone too far to change it.

ntndeacon · 05-20-2009, 11:43 PM

those would have been better than the non people categories Ithink.

Izulde · 05-20-2009, 11:43 PM

I tried folding explorer into naval category, but I don't think that was a good pick. :/

Galaril · 05-20-2009, 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abe Sargent

Some early evaluations for discussion:

Abe's MVP picks for each rounds:

1. Barkeep's Adam Smith. Very good.

2. Danny's Ghandi

3. Surtt's Dalai Lama - A great 20th century pickup in a category that skews pre-20th for the big names.

4. BK's Moses. As Justice Minster. Very interesting.

5. Izulde's COnfucious. Great value.

6. Abe's John Locke. Biggest and best name in a round of role players.

7. Noop's Saladin. Weak round of role picks and stretches.

8. DaddyTorgo's Martin Luther - Great value this late.

9. CW's Henry Morgan. Good name recognition here.

10. Izulde's Queen Isabella. One of the top rulers still on the board

11. Abe's Michelangelo. One of the best artists of all time in the 11th is great value.

Abe's most ??? pick of each round

1. Noop's Oil pick

2. DT's pick of Galbraith. If you have to google him in the 2nd round...

3. Ntndeacon's Teddy Roosevelt. Much better available.

4. The round of many reaches had many suspect picks. I think 5 picks were reaches. Worst pick? Galaril's JS Mill with John Locke still on the board.

5. Abe's Togo. I took him too soon. too much of a reach.

6. Danny's Hitchcock. WTF?

7. Lathum's Mao, way too many better rulers on the board

8. CW's Arafat. Really? 20th cventury is full of great diplomats with some name recognition that don't have a cloud over their head to take Arafat.

9. Apathetic Lurker - I'm not even sure what he is trying to do with this pick. It's like taking The World as your pick.

10. Lathum's Smith. There are a ton of better pre-20th people running around for religious than Smith.

11. Lathum's Bono. Again, diplomat in 20th century is so deep, you don't have to stretch for a part-time humanitarian.

Enjoy!

Sorry you disagree. I thought of Locke but decided since it was for Civil rights and not philosopher I liked Mills better. It certainly does not appear to be that egregious of a choice IMHO.

Abe Sargent · 05-21-2009, 09:34 AM

I have BK's profile up and I refresh it every couple of hours in its tab.

DaddyTorgo · 05-21-2009, 09:39 AM

what categories does he have left? can we get in a couple picks while waiting for him that way?

Noop · 05-21-2009, 09:55 AM

I like Barkeep I think work has him swamped however we might need to go NFL on him and keep passing him until he arrives.

Abe Sargent · 05-21-2009, 10:13 AM

I agree, it's been 22 hours since he last checked in. NFL him, and when he comes back, he can immediately make picks, but in the meantime, the draft continues.

DaddyTorgo · 05-21-2009, 10:26 AM

eh - i say give him 24 hours - has anyone IM'd him?

DaddyTorgo · 05-21-2009, 10:27 AM

i just sent him an IM - he's only been idle 26 minutes there so let's give him one last shot hmm?

Barkeep49 · 05-21-2009, 11:10 AM

American Heartland - US 20th Century
Never has so much food been grown per acre.

Barkeep49 · 05-21-2009, 11:10 AM

Sorry about my tardiness. I simply hadn't had time to check the board. Sorry again, hate to have slowed things down for so long.

Coffee Warlord · 05-21-2009, 11:13 AM

This Noop now, or the other direction?

Surtt · 05-21-2009, 11:15 AM

I think it is Abe

ntndeacon · 05-21-2009, 11:15 AM

12.9 btw

Abe Sargent · 05-21-2009, 12:22 PM

12.10 The Nile, Geographical Location, Egypt, 20th

Barkeep49 · 05-21-2009, 12:23 PM

20th? I certainly thought of the Nile, but couldn't justify it as a 20th Century pick.

Abe Sargent · 05-21-2009, 12:24 PM

Even in this century, its impact in the culture of the area has been significant.

Surtt · 05-21-2009, 12:25 PM

12.11 Justinian I, Justice Minister, Turkey, Pre-20

DaddyTorgo · 05-21-2009, 12:26 PM

far better as pre-20th but still a good pick - coulda gone with the canal or the aswan high dam imho as better 20th c picks

Danny · 05-21-2009, 12:28 PM

Just wait until I cross breed my amazon rain forest species into a team of flawless insect/animal soldiers.

Abe Sargent · 05-21-2009, 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

far better as pre-20th but still a good pick - coulda gone with the canal or the aswan high dam imho as better 20th c picks

Judge after my pick at 13.3......

Abe Sargent · 05-21-2009, 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Surtt

2.11 Justinian I, Justice Minister, Turkey, Pre-20

A solid pick

Danny · 05-21-2009, 12:31 PM

I had the second post in the thread, so I edited my sign up post to show the picks by category than Larry posted a couple pages back.

Abe Sargent · 05-21-2009, 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny

I had the second post in the thread, so I edited my sign up post to show the picks by category than Larry posted a couple pages back.

Thanks!

Noop · 05-21-2009, 06:45 PM

So what is up?

Abe Sargent · 05-21-2009, 06:47 PM

Delays again, apparently.

Danny · 05-21-2009, 06:49 PM

Did someone send a PM to apathetic?

Abe Sargent · 05-21-2009, 07:07 PM

He hasn;t been here since 12:40 or so this afternoon

Surtt · 05-21-2009, 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny

Did someone send a PM to apathetic?

yeah, I did.

Apathetic Lurker · 05-21-2009, 09:04 PM

Diplomat Carl Gustaf Mannerheim Finland 20th century

Manmade object Sydney Opera House Sydney, Australia 20th century

Abe Sargent · 05-21-2009, 09:12 PM

Opera House was already taken

Apathetic Lurker · 05-21-2009, 09:16 PM

im tired..not sure about this

Mna made object-Hubble telescope USA 20th century

Danny · 05-21-2009, 09:19 PM

usa taken

Apathetic Lurker · 05-21-2009, 09:26 PM

ugh..... brain fizz

man made object sputnik USSR 20th century

Surtt · 05-22-2009, 01:02 AM

13.2 Wine producing regions of France, Geographical Lgraphical Location, Pre-20

Abe Sargent · 05-22-2009, 01:03 AM

13.3 Ramses II (aka Ramses the Great aka Ozymandias), Ruler/Leader, Egypt, Pre20th

Abe Sargent · 05-22-2009, 01:08 AM

I just sent BK a pm too.

05-20-2009, 05:38 PM	#1251
ntndeacon Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Alabama	To kinda link on with Abe's picks per round I thought Iwould toss in my view as well. Best Picks per round: Round 1: Izulde The Red Baron. A strong pick in perhaps the weekest category Round 2: Danny -Gandhi. There were several very solid picks here, this is slightly above a couple others Round 3:Coffee Warlord-Shakespeare. in a basically pre 20th century round snAagging the best writer was a good get here. Round 4:Izulde-Hammurabi. This went in a different direction than I expected and started several picks dealing with creating codes of law Round 5:surrt-Churchill. a very solid diplomat and a steal in this round. Round 6:Izulde --Gallileo another round with several close together at the top, where the one named eeked out a place over several other worthy contestants Round 7T -Metternich. A good pick in a round with a lot of average picks filling up categories. Round 8:Barkeep Yin sun-sin. This was a barely one again. I actually had another wrote down before I changed it. Round 9:Barkeep-Suliman. A great pick at a crowded position Round 10:Coffee Warlord: Dunant Perhaps this is because Ihad him pegged as who Iwanted, that Isaw this a a great grab in a quickly narrowing field of suspects Round 11:Abe: Michelangelo. I thought it was a brilliant pick at the time and after looking at others picked that round it still apears to be so. There are a couple of my picks I thought about putting in there. but it would have only been a couple.

05-20-2009, 06:15 PM	#1252
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	Slooooooooooowwwwwwww __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

05-20-2009, 06:23 PM	#1253
Surtt College Benchwarmer Join Date: Nov 2003	Did anyone PM Barkeep? __________________ “The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding.” United States Supreme Court Justice Louis D. Brandeis

05-20-2009, 06:23 PM	#1254
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	He hasn;t logged on since 1:00 this afternoon __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

05-20-2009, 10:32 PM	#1255
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	Is there a "You Took Too Long" rule? __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

05-20-2009, 10:33 PM	#1256
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	this draft has been fun but I think there were 2 to many catergories

05-20-2009, 10:39 PM	#1257
Noop Bonafide Seminole Fan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Miami	I wish the rule was you can pick two of the same category except different eras. i.e. Leader: George Washington Pre 20th Ronald Reagen 20th Both American. __________________ Subby's favorite woman hater.

05-20-2009, 11:18 PM	#1259
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	I think we should just NFL Draft rule it. If it goes after a certain ;length of time, the draft goes on, but if you show back up, you can make your pick immediately. __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

05-20-2009, 11:38 PM	#1262
ntndeacon Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Alabama	we didn't have a philosopher category

05-20-2009, 11:42 PM	#1263
larrymcg421 Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Georgia	After starting the draft, I thought of thinker and explorer, but we had already gone too far to change it. __________________ Top 10 Songs of the Year 1955-Present (1976 Added) Franchise Portfolio Draft Winner Fictional Character Draft Winner Television Family Draft Winner Build Your Own Hollywood Studio Draft Winner

05-20-2009, 11:43 PM	#1264
ntndeacon Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Alabama	those would have been better than the non people categories Ithink.

05-20-2009, 11:43 PM	#1265
Izulde Head Coach Join Date: Sep 2004	I tried folding explorer into naval category, but I don't think that was a good pick. :/ __________________ 2006 Golden Scribe Nominee 2006 Golden Scribe Winner Best Non-Sport Dynasty: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty) Rookie Writer of the Year Dynasty of the Year: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty)

05-21-2009, 09:34 AM	#1267
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	I have BK's profile up and I refresh it every couple of hours in its tab. __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

05-21-2009, 09:39 AM	#1268
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	what categories does he have left? can we get in a couple picks while waiting for him that way? __________________ If I've ever helped you and you'd like to buy me a coffee, or just to say thanks, I have my Bitcoin and Ethereum addressed listed below :) BTC: bc1qykhsfyn9vw4ntqfgr0svj4n9tjdgufryh2pxn5 ETH: 0x2AcdC5cd88EA537063553F5b240073bE067BaCa9

05-21-2009, 09:55 AM	#1269
Noop Bonafide Seminole Fan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Miami	I like Barkeep I think work has him swamped however we might need to go NFL on him and keep passing him until he arrives. __________________ Subby's favorite woman hater.

05-21-2009, 10:13 AM	#1270
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	I agree, it's been 22 hours since he last checked in. NFL him, and when he comes back, he can immediately make picks, but in the meantime, the draft continues. __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

05-21-2009, 10:26 AM	#1271
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	eh - i say give him 24 hours - has anyone IM'd him? __________________ If I've ever helped you and you'd like to buy me a coffee, or just to say thanks, I have my Bitcoin and Ethereum addressed listed below :) BTC: bc1qykhsfyn9vw4ntqfgr0svj4n9tjdgufryh2pxn5 ETH: 0x2AcdC5cd88EA537063553F5b240073bE067BaCa9

05-21-2009, 10:27 AM	#1272
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	i just sent him an IM - he's only been idle 26 minutes there so let's give him one last shot hmm? __________________ If I've ever helped you and you'd like to buy me a coffee, or just to say thanks, I have my Bitcoin and Ethereum addressed listed below :) BTC: bc1qykhsfyn9vw4ntqfgr0svj4n9tjdgufryh2pxn5 ETH: 0x2AcdC5cd88EA537063553F5b240073bE067BaCa9

05-21-2009, 11:10 AM	#1273
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	American Heartland - US 20th Century Never has so much food been grown per acre.

05-21-2009, 11:10 AM	#1274
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	Sorry about my tardiness. I simply hadn't had time to check the board. Sorry again, hate to have slowed things down for so long.

05-21-2009, 11:13 AM	#1275
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	This Noop now, or the other direction?

05-21-2009, 11:15 AM	#1276
Surtt College Benchwarmer Join Date: Nov 2003	I think it is Abe __________________ “The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding.” United States Supreme Court Justice Louis D. Brandeis

05-21-2009, 11:15 AM	#1277
ntndeacon Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Alabama	12.9 btw

05-21-2009, 12:22 PM	#1278
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	12.10 The Nile, Geographical Location, Egypt, 20th __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

05-21-2009, 12:23 PM	#1279
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	20th? I certainly thought of the Nile, but couldn't justify it as a 20th Century pick.

05-21-2009, 12:24 PM	#1280
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	Even in this century, its impact in the culture of the area has been significant. __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

05-21-2009, 12:25 PM	#1281
Surtt College Benchwarmer Join Date: Nov 2003	12.11 Justinian I, Justice Minister, Turkey, Pre-20 __________________ “The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding.” United States Supreme Court Justice Louis D. Brandeis Last edited by Surtt : 05-21-2009 at 12:32 PM.

05-21-2009, 12:26 PM	#1282
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	far better as pre-20th but still a good pick - coulda gone with the canal or the aswan high dam imho as better 20th c picks __________________ If I've ever helped you and you'd like to buy me a coffee, or just to say thanks, I have my Bitcoin and Ethereum addressed listed below :) BTC: bc1qykhsfyn9vw4ntqfgr0svj4n9tjdgufryh2pxn5 ETH: 0x2AcdC5cd88EA537063553F5b240073bE067BaCa9

05-21-2009, 12:28 PM	#1283
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Just wait until I cross breed my amazon rain forest species into a team of flawless insect/animal soldiers.

05-21-2009, 12:31 PM	#1286
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	I had the second post in the thread, so I edited my sign up post to show the picks by category than Larry posted a couple pages back.

05-21-2009, 06:45 PM	#1288
Noop Bonafide Seminole Fan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Miami	So what is up? __________________ Subby's favorite woman hater.

05-21-2009, 06:47 PM	#1289
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	Delays again, apparently. __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

05-21-2009, 06:49 PM	#1290
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Did someone send a PM to apathetic?

05-21-2009, 07:07 PM	#1291
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	He hasn;t been here since 12:40 or so this afternoon __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

05-21-2009, 09:04 PM	#1293
Apathetic Lurker College Prospect Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Buffalo,NY	Diplomat Carl Gustaf Mannerheim Finland 20th century Manmade object Sydney Opera House Sydney, Australia 20th century