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02-13-2006, 11:54 PM | #1252 |
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dola, that was a joke
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02-13-2006, 11:56 PM | #1253 |
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02-13-2006, 11:56 PM | #1254 |
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Looks like no tiebreaker tonight for me.
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02-13-2006, 11:59 PM | #1255 | |
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02-14-2006, 12:00 AM | #1256 | |
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Well my messages tonight are more than just trust in game, its more about the fact that I enjoy having you in the game. If everyone played the same style, the games would be boring. If you dont fully trust me in game, its ok its just a game to me, but hopefully gamewise I'll be able to make you trust me more as we go on here. Most importantly to me though is that you understand that we enjoy having you in the game even if we sometimes have different game agendas |
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02-14-2006, 12:05 AM | #1257 | |
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02-14-2006, 12:05 AM | #1258 |
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Are we having a lynch tonight? Like i saw we had a tie, but whats coming of it?
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02-14-2006, 12:21 AM | #1259 |
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I stated I wasn't going to vote tonight, due to the fact that I am just coming in and really don't feel like reading 1000 posts to try and catch up (I just don't have the time for that) It is hard enough to keep up with you animals!
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02-14-2006, 12:39 AM | #1260 |
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Looks like we'll be waiting until tomorrow. I had my death throes speech all ready too.
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02-14-2006, 12:50 AM | #1261 | |
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Thanks, glad to be here. I've been out of town and haven't read anything past the signups so don't be surprised if I'm sort of quiet while catching up with things in both this game and work. Of course, any brief synopses anyone feels like giving would be a big help!
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02-14-2006, 12:51 AM | #1262 | |
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02-14-2006, 12:58 AM | #1263 | |
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02-14-2006, 02:33 AM | #1264 |
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Results shortly after I scan the 1000 posts or so.
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02-14-2006, 02:35 AM | #1265 |
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Ugh.. I actually dreamt I logged in here and voted last night, then realizing I was taking a WW-break... it's bad when you realize you have dreams about this stuff
/back to work
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02-14-2006, 02:39 AM | #1266 | |
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02-14-2006, 02:40 AM | #1267 | |
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02-14-2006, 03:05 AM | #1268 |
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It seemed like the day lasted 72 hours. Arguments were made for nearly half the camp to be one of the Others. Tempers and fights flared up. Questions of who, if anyone, was guarding Mr. Wednesday's jail cell.
As the sun began to set, it was clear someone had to be placed in the cell for the good of the camp. A show of hands led to a tie between McKerney and Desnudo. Recount after recount, the results were still the same. Finally, it is decided to have both go to the cell, when a gunshot rings out. McKerney crumples to the ground, bleeding from a chest wound. Desnudo and the rest of the survivors drop to the ground looking for the shooter. Finally, some of the survivors turn to see Desmond with the smoking gun. Desmond opens his hand and drops the pistol, and then falls to his knees in the sand. The survivors split quickly, some to attend to McKerney, others to grab Desmond and Desnudo. Some stand just watching, and others just run off. McKerney in near death, and it's apparent he'll die soon. He keeps trying to direct someone to do things to save his life, but McKerney is losing too much blood. Finally, McKerney has a small bottle of Jack Daniels taken from his pocket and downs it to try to relieve the pain. He dies just moments later. In light of the circumstances, Desnudo is never taken to the cell. The gun is confiscated. Desmond just sits in the sand watching McKerney. Day 2 has ended. Day 2 night actions are due by 3pm CST, but are encouraged to be entered ASAP, so we can maintain a 9 or 10 pm CST deadline for Day 3 actions.
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02-14-2006, 03:08 AM | #1269 |
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Well, that's why the Sox will never win the Series.
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02-14-2006, 04:42 AM | #1270 |
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Hmmm...a few things from this. I can't think of who mckerney would be. I would guess that he was an unnamed survivor. Desmond's actions with the write up tend to make me believe he is also good, since he seemed to have some remorse, which none of the others had (at least what they showed on the show).
List of characters who killed someone else with a gun: 1. Charlie killed Ethan. Charlie's dead, soooo... 2. Sawyer was shot by an other at the end of season one, but he lived, soooo.... 3. Ana Lucia killed Shannon. The only thing there was that she showed no remorse for her actions. |
02-14-2006, 04:42 AM | #1271 |
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dola,
dibs on Desnudo's gun. |
02-14-2006, 04:51 AM | #1272 |
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With that, that prob means mckerney was bodyguard protected on night one
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02-14-2006, 05:11 AM | #1273 |
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Sawyer shot and killed someone. He had to do it. The guy was already good as dead.
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02-14-2006, 05:24 AM | #1274 | |
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02-14-2006, 06:12 AM | #1275 | |
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I really hope that doesn't mean mckerney was Jack. (Although Jack had vodka in his pocket) |
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02-14-2006, 06:18 AM | #1276 | |
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02-14-2006, 06:23 AM | #1277 |
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Who was jack?
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02-14-2006, 06:24 AM | #1278 | |
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I forget when he used it - on the marshall, maybe? It was shown in one of his flashbacks.. maybe the first Jack-centric episode, where he has a drink, and flirts a bit with the stewardess about the drink not being strong enough... she slips him two of the single vodka bottles. He puts one in the drink and drops the other in his pocket. It's useful at some point, but I forget when. |
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02-14-2006, 06:24 AM | #1279 | |
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02-14-2006, 06:25 AM | #1280 |
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dola, that is now two days in a row i have said that i felt a person had a special human role(the only two players i have said that about), and both times they got lynched....AND NO ONE SEEMS TO CATCH ON TO WHAT THE WOLVES ARE DOING
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02-14-2006, 06:26 AM | #1281 |
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in humor to my above comment,
Alan has a special human role... Telling you someone is good gets them killed, bad and they live...so im trying it your way now
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02-14-2006, 06:31 AM | #1282 |
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Jack had vodka in his pocket back from the season opener - had gotten a boost for his weak drink. Used the vodka to treat a wound (his own, from the initial crash).
Sawyer never shot anyone in the story where they revealed him as a con man. But since I'm only through the first dozen episodes I don't know if he shoots anyone in the 2nd half of Season 1. So should we assume that Desmond was the tie-breaker (he did vote for mckerney)? Perhaps the duke (seems less likely)? Desmond, care to indicate if you got a 'simple survivor' PM or something besides that? I think that would be a clue in terms of identifying whether there are "unknown survivors" or if everyone will have some character identification in death. |
02-14-2006, 06:35 AM | #1283 | |
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That doesn't look good. mckerney said that he had a small part, so I can't imagine he was Jack. But what other chracter would direct someone to do things to save his life? Maybe the Korean woman, who has had some minor medical knowledge? There is nothing in the way he died that indicates to me that mckerney was the bodyguard. But it doesn't make sense to me that the bodyguard would have protected him on Night 1. |
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02-14-2006, 06:38 AM | #1284 |
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Trying to find the post where he said that he only had a minor role - am I mixing him up with Desnudo at this point? Still searching ...
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02-14-2006, 06:39 AM | #1285 | |
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02-14-2006, 06:40 AM | #1286 | |
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02-14-2006, 06:41 AM | #1287 |
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It was Desnudo who said he had a minor role in post #1176. So that changes things ...
Up to this point the only guy I can recall seeing with a mini-bottle was Jack. Could AE have been cute by making the bottle "Jack" Daniels? |
02-14-2006, 06:45 AM | #1288 |
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I'm hoping for a quick turnaround on night actions, but this early in the game I'm guessing that is unlikely. I doubt that 9PM CST will be the deadline for Day 3, so it seems like there is a good chance we will have some extended play on Day 3. Which may work out well for those of us who need to spend some time with the wife/"significant other" on Valentines Day.
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Sawyer shot the marshall on the island (but didn't kill him outright). Sawyer also shot... someone in one of his con artist flashbacks. The second one? It's the reason he went to Australia, and it turned out he was being played the whole time. Same episode when he met Jack's dad. Sawyer: "I never killed a man." Kate: *drinks* Sawyer: *drinks* ...or something like that. |
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02-14-2006, 07:15 AM | #1290 |
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Haven't seen that episode yet where he meets Jack's dad, although I've seen references to it on some of the message boards.
That's right on the marshall - but he wasn't a very good shot. I was initially trying to recall how the marshall was wounded (during the crash) but Sawyer went in to do a "mercy kill" and shot him in the chest. And, as noted earlier, he definitely shoots the polar bear. But ... but .. but I thought that SnDvls was Sawyer because he said "freckles" a few times! |
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Since AE's narrative shows Desnudo and Desmond hanging out with the survivors, does that make them 'simple survivors'? I don't think it is that easy.
No explanation is given why Desmond guns down McKerney. This makes me wonder... |
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You guys are too quiet!!!
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02-14-2006, 08:18 AM | #1294 | |
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I thought that was more a question of putting the gun against his chest and going for the heart... but not really knowing where the heart was, so "missing". |
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02-14-2006, 08:38 AM | #1296 |
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I have a question...
Gramm died at the hands of the others, so we know he is a survivor. Do we know for sure that Mr. W and mckerney are survivors? What tells us so? I assume if they were others, we would know that when they were killed, right? Or, if they were, the other others would have tried to save them, eh? |
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Celeval, that is accurate. The marshall was dying, they didn't have the right supplies to save him, and it was going to be prolonged/painful. It seemed that Kate gave Sawyer the gun to kill him (she wasn't going to do it) and Sawyer went into the tent to kill him but shot him in the chest, giving him an additional wound that would have taken a few hours to bleed out. I believe Jack then killed the marshall at that point rather than having him suffer further, although I'm not positive that was explicitly stated.
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02-14-2006, 08:42 AM | #1298 | |
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02-14-2006, 08:43 AM | #1299 | |
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Mr. W - yes, he was Charlie (who was a survivor). This is made clear via the heroin, the lyrics (although that came from MrW directly), and the ring. mckerney - speculation that he is Jack, but nothing really confirmed at this point. |
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Spleen, we don't know for sure but the moderator usually provides some information to help you draw conclusions.
The clues made it pretty clear that Mr. W was Charlie. And I think it is hard to depict Charlie as an "other" based on what I have now seen of the show. The only way that works is if AE is making the others a subset of the characters on the show, which doesn't seem to fit for the others at all. For those with knowledge of the show, is Ethan Rom an 'other'? I'm far enough along in my viewing to know that he is against the survivors, but the concept of others has not been explained in the episodes I have seen. Have the 'others' been defined by now or are they still completely nebulous? I don't necessarily want spoilers since I am watching the tapes, but I want to be able to understand 'the others' a little better in the framework of this game. |
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