Werewolf XXXIII: To Crown a King 2 (Game Over) - Page 26

Barkeep49 · 10-02-2006, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianD

It isn't really that bad though. There is some interesting strategy with the points, but it is still just a hunt for werewolves. Maybe it is just the fact that I'm so intrigued by this game design that I find it disappointing that we won't really get to see how well it works.

I happen to agree that unlike some of the other games I have done, that this one isn't really all that different from a "normal" game of werewolf. The normal tools for finding a wolf are still there and there are some extra ones included. But I dunno. If there's a way I can make it less initimidating I would love to hear it after the game. Anyhow I'm here now and am about to do the Day Action.

Fouts · 10-02-2006, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

I happen to agree that unlike some of the other games I have done, that this one isn't really all that different from a "normal" game of werewolf. The normal tools for finding a wolf are still there and there are some extra ones included. But I dunno. If there's a way I can make it less initimidating I would love to hear it after the game. Anyhow I'm here now and am about to do the Day Action.

One thing this version is missing is the excitement from a lynch. Day 5 and we've only lynched one person, so people don't have the anticipation of "did we get one?".

BrianD · 10-02-2006, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Fouts

One thing this version is missing is the excitement from a lynch. Day 5 and we've only lynched one person, so people don't have the anticipation of "did we get one?".

I do think that is party our fault. We don't quite know the strategy yet so we haven't been very good about keeping the nobles out...or we've been too lenient when someone claims a jailed guy is a noble.

LoneStarGirl · 10-02-2006, 09:05 PM

Its past 9:30 eastern right? Barkeep you are falling behind.

Barkeep49 · 10-02-2006, 09:13 PM

Once again someone spends a single night in jail before being released. This time it is king who has the "honor". Little worse for the wear he rejoins his fellow elite on the outside.

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st.cronin Execute King
Bulletsponge Free King
RealDeal No execute
Lonestargirl Free King
Anxiety Free King
Fouts Free King
Ntndeacon Free King
Chief Rum No execute
BrianD Free King

Free 6 - bullet, lone, anxiety, fouts, ntn, brian
No Execute 2 - real, chief
Execute 1 - st.cronin

No vote - Grey, lathum, schmidty, sndvls, wvu

Terrible storm going on. Am submitting this now in case the power goes off. Other results coming.

Barkeep49 · 10-02-2006, 09:16 PM

The jail vote turns out to be more interesting. There seems to be more agreement about jailing grey than lathum. However, as discussion goes on the moral weight of those arguing for lathum seems to be stronger. And so in the end despite grey's silence

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st.cronin Anxiety
Bulletsponge Lathum
Fouts lathum

RealDeal lathum
Lonestargirl lathum
Ntndeacon Greyroofoo
Anxiety greyroofoo
Chief Rum greyroofoo
Lathum greyroofoo
BrianD greyroofoo

Lathum 6 - Bulletsponge, Fouts, RealDeal, Lonestar
Grey 5 - Ntn. Anxiety, Chief, Lathum, Brian
Anxiety 1 - st.cronin

No votes - grey, schmidty, sndvls, wvufan

Again submitted quickly. Night is now on. Normal deadline.

SnDvls · 10-02-2006, 09:29 PM

probally should have gotten on earlier. Sorry all I was putting together my daughter's swing set and I forget about the execution.

SnDvls · 10-02-2006, 09:40 PM

I do know this for sure....I am almost 100% certain that NTN was in my faction and isn't anymore. From messages on the first few days added up from our former leader "Blade" I would say that NTN is the converted one and that is where my vote goes tomorrow. After getting my message from my faction leader today I'd say without a doubt that he is bad.

kingfc22 · 10-02-2006, 09:54 PM

I'm free!!! WOOOT!!!!

LoneStarGirl · 10-02-2006, 10:00 PM

What makes you think that SnDvls? What proof do you have that ntn is converted?

LoneStarGirl · 10-02-2006, 10:02 PM

I have to say that as much as i am enjoying this game, it would probably be better if everybody was cooperating. Grey, schmidty and WVU haven't been as talking as I would have liked.

LoneStarGirl · 10-02-2006, 10:03 PM

Also, what 6 people voted for Lathum? you only have four by his name

LoneStarGirl · 10-02-2006, 10:07 PM

If a faction leader dies tonight, I am going to take a real hard look at NTN and SndVLS...after Sndvls' post i am getting a mixed feeling.

kingfc22 · 10-02-2006, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneStarGirl

Also, what 6 people voted for Lathum? you only have four by his name

Faction leaders count as double.

SnDvls · 10-02-2006, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneStarGirl

What makes you think that SnDvls? What proof do you have that ntn is converted?

read up on noble leader and fast talking noble.

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Originally Posted by LoneStarGirl

If a faction leader dies tonight, I am going to take a real hard look at NTN and SndVLS...after Sndvls' post i am getting a mixed feeling.

and after I vouched for you.

ntndeacon · 10-02-2006, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by SnDvls

I do know this for sure....I am almost 100% certain that NTN was in my faction and isn't anymore. From messages on the first few days added up from our former leader "Blade" I would say that NTN is the converted one and that is where my vote goes tomorrow. After getting my message from my faction leader today I'd say without a doubt that he is bad.

SnDvls, I do not know where you get that from. check the info from Blade each night and see if my first post wasn't correctly done. I will go back too and find the numbers of those posts as well.

ntndeacon · 10-02-2006, 10:32 PM

[quote=SnDvls;1263479]read up on noble leader and fast talking noble.

QUOTE]

You too. we know that a fast talker was converted on night one. I have responded to EVERY clue correctly. Including those made sense that time.

Fouts · 10-02-2006, 10:50 PM

Inner-faction fighting. Very interesting.

ntndeacon · 10-02-2006, 11:24 PM

SnDvls consider posts 115, 404, 749 and 1123.

ntndeacon · 10-02-2006, 11:34 PM

Dola

Also as far as ican tell that there have been no conversions in either Bullet's faction or Blade's Faction. I say that based on the points that both factions recieved.

Abe Sargent · 10-02-2006, 11:42 PM

Rules question I just noticed:

King was released with a plurality but not a majority of votes. According to Barkeep's rules, he says:

"At the end of the day a the player with a plurality of jail votes will be sent to jail.

Additionally, whichever action has a majority vote between Execute, No Execution, and Free will be enacted."

Why was king freed then, when according to your own rules, he needs a majority, not a plurality?

Barkeep49 · 10-03-2006, 05:40 AM

Both should have been plurality. They were written at different times and I wrote the correct thing months ago and hwen I created the new jail system I failed to use the precise word.

Barkeep49 · 10-03-2006, 06:35 AM

The night passes. In the morning it is ntn who does not rejoin you. An inspection of his body finds that he was killed in a manner slightly different than the other dead bodies you have found, but it makes no difference as it is another noble dead.

You start your new day of deliberations.

LoneStarGirl · 10-03-2006, 07:00 AM

Damnit. I hate that. He wasn't even a special noble, just a noble. And Sndvls, I am not looking twice at you, i just wanted to see how you would react to my comments.

LoneStarGirl · 10-03-2006, 07:01 AM

And Since I started the ball rolling for Qwik, I'll do it here too.

Vote Jail Grey

Vote Execute Lathum

I dont think anybody has vouched for lathum, plus i want to see some more point totals. We canNOT go another night without an execution.

Chief Rum · 10-03-2006, 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by LoneStarGirl

And Since I started the ball rolling for Qwik, I'll do it here too.

Vote Jail Grey

Vote Execute Lathum

I dont think anybody has vouched for lathum, plus i want to see some more point totals. We canNOT go another night without an execution.

I agree. This is getting to be a very disappointing game, because we need our own kills here. The in-fighting between factions (hiding info, lack of vouching until jail, etc.) is giving this game to the assassins.

Again, I will be out all day at both of my jobs, so this is the one time I can make any comment or vote in the game. I will have to place my votes, and hope the group of you will make the right decisions.

VOTE EXECUTE LATHUM
VOTE JAIL GREYROOFOO

bulletsponge · 10-03-2006, 07:40 AM

Vote Jail Greyroofoo

ntndeacon · 10-03-2006, 07:47 AM

well, phooey. Good Luck everyone.

Lathum · 10-03-2006, 07:57 AM

From the rules

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Players in jail, however, are also safe from being killed by an assassin.

read the writting on the walls, I think the clever assasin planted evidence on me knowing you would execute me today and cause MAJOR confusion amongst everyone for the next day. The rules don't say anywhere about assasins using abilities, just being killed.

I understand the need to gain information but if you execute me today you could gain the wrong information which would be worse. More of you voted for Grey yesterday, I just hope some of my faction members have picked up on my clues somewhere and help me out.

st.cronin · 10-03-2006, 08:05 AM

King is an assasin - he killed ntn. I do not believe Lathum is an assasin.

JAIL KINGFC

FREE LATHUM

BrianD · 10-03-2006, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

King is an assasin - he killed ntn. I do not believe Lathum is an assasin.

JAIL KINGFC

FREE LATHUM

Um, what?

SnDvls · 10-03-2006, 08:41 AM

execute lathum

BrianD · 10-03-2006, 08:45 AM

So SnDvls, you were with LSG, Blade and NTN? Do your initial points add up properly?

BrianD · 10-03-2006, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by LoneStarGirl

Also, what 6 people voted for Lathum? you only have four by his name

Barkeep, could you address this question? I looked back at past votes, and none of the four that voted for Lathum appear to have counted as double votes before. I also seem to remember you mentioning that double votes only counted for tie-breakers. Is Lathum really the right person to be in jail?

Abe Sargent · 10-03-2006, 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by st.cronin

King is an assasin - he killed ntn. I do not believe Lathum is an assasin.

JAIL KINGFC

FREE LATHUM

I'd like more info on this thought please.

BrianD · 10-03-2006, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Anxiety

I'd like more info on this thought please.

I think it is clear what he is claiming to be, we just need to decide if we believe him.

Abe Sargent · 10-03-2006, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by BrianD

I think it is clear what he is claiming to be, we just need to decide if we believe him.

I'm tired of factions voting for someone only AFTER they are incarcerated. This is BAD PLAY

Vote Execute Lathum
Vote Jail Greyroofoo

BrianD · 10-03-2006, 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anxiety

I'm tired of factions voting for someone only AFTER they are incarcerated. This is BAD PLAY

Vote Execute Lathum
Vote Jail Greyroofoo

Um...I don't think he is claiming to be in the same faction.

Abe Sargent · 10-03-2006, 10:00 AM

Obviously it must not be that clear then, st. cronin what are you saying?

Abe Sargent · 10-03-2006, 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

I happen to agree that unlike some of the other games I have done, that this one isn't really all that different from a "normal" game of werewolf. The normal tools for finding a wolf are still there and there are some extra ones included. But I dunno. If there's a way I can make it less initimidating I would love to hear it after the game. Anyhow I'm here now and am about to do the Day Action.

That's not true - no seer.

BrianD · 10-03-2006, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Anxiety

Obviously it must not be that clear then, st. cronin what are you saying?

My guess...

Sleepless Noble
This poor Noble has trouble sleeping. Once during the game, the insomniac may choose to wander the castle at night. If there is a kill that night, he will learn the identity of one of the assassins. Likewise, that assassin will learn his identity. This power may not be used before Night 3.

I'm not sure I believe this though...

RealDeal · 10-03-2006, 02:34 PM

vote jail king
vote no execute

I don't understand why we keep letting people go instead of leaving them in jail. We already had king in jail, but we freed him.

BrianD · 10-03-2006, 02:40 PM

Not much discussion again today. I think we need an execute at this point to give ourselves a little more information.

Vote Execute
Jail Greyroofoo

Fouts · 10-03-2006, 02:42 PM

I agree, I think we screwed the pooch yesterday.

vote jail king

vote no execute

SnDvls · 10-03-2006, 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianD

So SnDvls, you were with LSG, Blade and NTN? Do your initial points add up properly?

yes

SnDvls · 10-03-2006, 02:44 PM

dola - yes to my points adding up

BrianD · 10-03-2006, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by SnDvls

dola - yes to my points adding up

Odd, when I did your points, I came up with 10. Not sure where the extra half point came from.

Fouts · 10-03-2006, 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by st.cronin

King is an assasin - he killed ntn. I do not believe Lathum is an assasin.

JAIL KINGFC

FREE LATHUM

So, you saw King make a kill last night? King can you refute this?

Abe Sargent · 10-03-2006, 03:34 PM

I still wanna hear more from St. cronin, and until I do, my votes stand.

SnDvls · 10-03-2006, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ntndeacon

SnDvls consider posts 115, 404, 749 and 1123.

sorry I doubted you ntn, but your lack of following yesterday's note brought you up on my radar.

10-02-2006, 09:54 PM	#1259
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	I'm free!!! WOOOT!!!! __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

10-02-2006, 11:42 PM	#1271
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	Rules question I just noticed: King was released with a plurality but not a majority of votes. According to Barkeep's rules, he says: "At the end of the day a the player with a plurality of jail votes will be sent to jail. Additionally, whichever action has a majority vote between Execute, No Execution, and Free will be enacted." Why was king freed then, when according to your own rules, he needs a majority, not a plurality? __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

10-03-2006, 08:05 AM	#1280
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	King is an assasin - he killed ntn. I do not believe Lathum is an assasin. JAIL KINGFC FREE LATHUM __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

10-03-2006, 10:00 AM	#1289
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	Obviously it must not be that clear then, st. cronin what are you saying? __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

10-03-2006, 03:34 PM	#1299
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	I still wanna hear more from St. cronin, and until I do, my votes stand. __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

10-02-2006, 09:05 PM	#1254
LoneStarGirl College Starter Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Little Rock, AR	Its past 9:30 eastern right? Barkeep you are falling behind.

10-02-2006, 09:29 PM	#1257
SnDvls Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2001	probally should have gotten on earlier. Sorry all I was putting together my daughter's swing set and I forget about the execution.

10-02-2006, 09:40 PM	#1258
SnDvls Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2001	I do know this for sure....I am almost 100% certain that NTN was in my faction and isn't anymore. From messages on the first few days added up from our former leader "Blade" I would say that NTN is the converted one and that is where my vote goes tomorrow. After getting my message from my faction leader today I'd say without a doubt that he is bad.

10-02-2006, 10:00 PM	#1260
LoneStarGirl College Starter Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Little Rock, AR	What makes you think that SnDvls? What proof do you have that ntn is converted?

10-02-2006, 10:02 PM	#1261
LoneStarGirl College Starter Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Little Rock, AR	I have to say that as much as i am enjoying this game, it would probably be better if everybody was cooperating. Grey, schmidty and WVU haven't been as talking as I would have liked.

10-02-2006, 10:03 PM	#1262
LoneStarGirl College Starter Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Little Rock, AR	Also, what 6 people voted for Lathum? you only have four by his name

10-02-2006, 10:07 PM	#1263
LoneStarGirl College Starter Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Little Rock, AR	If a faction leader dies tonight, I am going to take a real hard look at NTN and SndVLS...after Sndvls' post i am getting a mixed feeling.

10-02-2006, 10:32 PM	#1267
ntndeacon Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Alabama	[quote=SnDvls;1263479]read up on noble leader and fast talking noble. QUOTE] You too. we know that a fast talker was converted on night one. I have responded to EVERY clue correctly. Including those made sense that time.

10-02-2006, 10:50 PM	#1268
Fouts College Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: California	Inner-faction fighting. Very interesting.

10-02-2006, 11:24 PM	#1269
ntndeacon Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Alabama	SnDvls consider posts 115, 404, 749 and 1123.

10-02-2006, 11:34 PM	#1270
ntndeacon Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Alabama	Dola Also as far as ican tell that there have been no conversions in either Bullet's faction or Blade's Faction. I say that based on the points that both factions recieved.

10-03-2006, 05:40 AM	#1272
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	Both should have been plurality. They were written at different times and I wrote the correct thing months ago and hwen I created the new jail system I failed to use the precise word.

10-03-2006, 06:35 AM	#1273
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	The night passes. In the morning it is ntn who does not rejoin you. An inspection of his body finds that he was killed in a manner slightly different than the other dead bodies you have found, but it makes no difference as it is another noble dead. You start your new day of deliberations.

10-03-2006, 07:00 AM	#1274
LoneStarGirl College Starter Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Little Rock, AR	Damnit. I hate that. He wasn't even a special noble, just a noble. And Sndvls, I am not looking twice at you, i just wanted to see how you would react to my comments.

10-03-2006, 07:01 AM	#1275
LoneStarGirl College Starter Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Little Rock, AR	And Since I started the ball rolling for Qwik, I'll do it here too. Vote Jail Grey Vote Execute Lathum I dont think anybody has vouched for lathum, plus i want to see some more point totals. We canNOT go another night without an execution.

10-03-2006, 07:40 AM	#1277
bulletsponge Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: TX	Vote Jail Greyroofoo

10-03-2006, 07:47 AM	#1278
ntndeacon Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Alabama	well, phooey. Good Luck everyone.

10-03-2006, 08:41 AM	#1282
SnDvls Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2001	execute lathum

10-03-2006, 08:45 AM	#1283
BrianD Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	So SnDvls, you were with LSG, Blade and NTN? Do your initial points add up properly?

10-03-2006, 02:34 PM	#1292
RealDeal High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: here	vote jail king vote no execute I don't understand why we keep letting people go instead of leaving them in jail. We already had king in jail, but we freed him.

10-03-2006, 02:40 PM	#1293
BrianD Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	Not much discussion again today. I think we need an execute at this point to give ourselves a little more information. Vote Execute Jail Greyroofoo

10-03-2006, 02:42 PM	#1294
Fouts College Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: California	I agree, I think we screwed the pooch yesterday. vote jail king vote no execute

10-03-2006, 02:44 PM	#1296
SnDvls Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2001	dola - yes to my points adding up

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