Werewolf XXI - Werewolf goes to Hollywood - Game Over!! Death Eaters win!!

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by kingfc22

So what is the Potion's Master?

basicly it is someone who makes potions and may have the ability to teach others how to make potions,

Potions usually are antidotes or poisons, however there are other powerfull potions that can change your appearance to look like some one else or Veritisirum which makes someone tell the truth.

Just a couple of examples.

[dubb93]

Originally Posted by kingfc22

So what is the Potion's Master?

I'm still waiting for someone to explain it in HP terms that way we could figure out what it could possibly mean in terms of werewolf.

[Lathum]

see above

[dubb93]

that was strange timing...

If he can make poisons, could he have been the one to poison Blade?

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by dubb93

that was strange timing...

If he can make poisons, could he have been the one to poison Blade?

why would he want to?

[dubb93]

Originally Posted by Lathum

why would he want to?

I have no clue, he was a newbie to the game. You have a guess as to what his power could have been?

[Lathum]

no, but i am seeing a trend. I think for every "master" they may be a "student" just a guess though. Going to bed now...

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by Lathum

basicly it is someone who makes potions and may have the ability to teach others how to make potions,

Potions usually are antidotes or poisons, however there are other powerfull potions that can change your appearance to look like some one else or Veritisirum which makes someone tell the truth.

Just a couple of examples.

Yep. I think (just like in the HP books), it's such a vague, hazy area. It could be used for great good, or great evil. I don't know that it helps us at all.

[Grammaticus]

Originally Posted by dubb93

I have no clue, he was a newbie to the game. You have a guess as to what his power could have been?

Maybe he was the assassin on the Wizard team and there was an assassin on the DE team. That would mean the Wizard team has lost their ability to assassinate (maybe).

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by Grammaticus

Maybe he was the assassin on the Wizard team and there was an assassin on the DE team. That would mean the Wizard team has lost their ability to assassinate (maybe).

Dubb. Grammaticus.

I don't know. Jordan-Pippen?

I'm just being silly.

[Neon_Chaos]

[Raiders Army]

Well, that stinks. I guess gut feelings are usually wrong...

I think at this point we wait to see if anyone disputes Mr. Wednesday's claim to be the bodyguard.

[Grammaticus]

Originally Posted by Schmidty

Dubb. Grammaticus.

I don't know. Jordan-Pippen?

I'm just being silly.

I suppose that probably makes me Pippen, doh! Actually, I’m more like Will Perdue, not good.

[st.cronin]

You should have listened to the ham!!!!!

[Grammaticus]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

You should have listened to the ham!!!!!

Well, when you brought up JeeberD, It struck a chord with my own thoughts there. I find him very suspicious.

[JeeberD]

I still don't know why I'm so suspicious...cause I voted badly the first two night? So did a lot of other people. Because I've been so quiet? First of all, if you check the other two or three WW games that I've been in I've been quiet in those as well (and I've been a good guy every time). I'm just not one of the more vocal people when it comes to the WW games. Secondly, my schedule the last few days has been crazy, knocking me off the computer for long stretches. It's not my fault that I have to work, sleep, and watch UTEP kick SMU's ass, is it?

[Grammaticus]

Originally Posted by JeeberD

I still don't know why I'm so suspicious...cause I voted badly the first two night? So did a lot of other people. Because I've been so quiet? First of all, if you check the other two or three WW games that I've been in I've been quiet in those as well (and I've been a good guy every time). I'm just not one of the more vocal people when it comes to the WW games. Secondly, my schedule the last few days has been crazy, knocking me off the computer for long stretches. It's not my fault that I have to work, sleep, and watch UTEP kick SMU's ass, is it?

Sure, the voting and general quietness are something that makes you think. Mostly because I don’t know why you voted the way you did. But something just does not feel right. Early on you said you knew a lot about Harry Potter and if anyone had questions to ask and you would help. A couple of key discussion came up about the HP world, primarily the teleporting issues and the cloak. You have not commented on those at all and that could have been helpful. I don’t know, just a feeling.

[JeeberD]

And when have those key discussions come up? When I've been at work. If people have questions they need to post them between 9am and 5pm...

[Grammaticus]

Originally Posted by JeeberD

And when have those key discussions come up? When I've been at work. If people have questions they need to post them between 9am and 5pm...

Okay, you have office hours

[Coder]

Lynch him!

[st.cronin]

We're still on night?

[Grammaticus]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

We're still on night?

Technically night ended at 9:30am. So, no new night actions should be allowed, but then we cannot really start voting until we see what happened. I think Saldana said he gets out of work at 1:00am. So we are pretty much just waiting for him to get up and process everything.

Saldana, where are you?

Anyway, I’m off for an hour or two, so I’ll check in later.

[saldana]

sorry guys, wasnt feeling well last night, caught an extra hour of rack....coming right up

[JeeberD]

Originally Posted by Grammaticus

Okay, you have office hours

Here's a handy-dandy image to help y'all remember when I'm working...

[st.cronin]

Originally Posted by saldana

sorry guys, wasnt feeling well last night, caught an extra hour of rack....coming right up

No problem, I was just confused.

[Coder]

Originally Posted by JeeberD

Here's a handy-dandy image to help y'all remember when I'm working...

Caftiprate? That sounds death-eaterish...

[st.cronin]

known good wizards

Alan T
Barkeep
Blade
Neon

known bad wizards

Qwik
SnDvls

Day 1

Neon - Qwik
Coffee - ardent
st.cronin - vote Neo
snDvls - vote Blade
Barkeep - vote Coffee
AlanT - vote st.cronin
ardent - vote Schmidty
Raiders Army - vote coder
path12 - vote Jesse
Dubb - vote Neon
Qwik - vote Neon
Schmidty - vote ardent
KWhit - vote Superman
dubb - unvote Neon
dubb - vote Mr. Wednesday
Blade - vote alanT
Blade - unvote AlanT
Blade - vote st.cronin
coder - vote Raiders Army
Lathum - vote Neon
kingfc - vote KWhit
dacman - vote JeeberD
Jesse - vote Path12
Grammaticus - vote Desnudo
Desnudo - vote Grammaticus
Blade - unvote St.cronin
Blade - vote ardent
ardent - unvote Schmidty
ardent - vote Neon
Taz - vote Superman
JeeberD - vote Blade
RPI - vote Superman
Barkeep - unvote Coffee
Barkeep - vote Superman
Blade - unvote ardent
BLade - vote Superman

NEON CHAOS REVEAL

RPI - switch to Qwik
st.cronin - switch to Qwik
Taz - switch to Qwik
Alan - switch to Qwik
Mr. W - switch to Qwik
KWith - switch to Qwik
Lathum - switch to Qwik (first vote that could be considered a LATE switch)
SnDvls - switch to Qwik
Jesse - switch to Qwik
dubb - switch to Qwik
Desnudo - switch to Qwik

[st.cronin]

Day 2
Coffee - vote dubb
coder - vote Coffee
SnDvls - vote Superman
st.cronin - vote SnDvls
Lathum - vote Superman
dacman - vote SnDvls
Jeeber - vote Superman
SnDvls - unvote Superman
king - vote SnDvls
Coffee - unvote dubb
Raiders - vote WVUFan
dubb - vote WVUFan
Lathum - unvote Superman
Jeeber - unvote Superman
Jeeber - vote WVUFan
SnDvls - vote WVUFan
Gram - vote SnDvls
WVUFan - vote SnDvls
Coffee - vote SnDvls
dubb - unvote WVUFan
dubb - vote Pass
ardent - vote Coffee
Gram - unvote SnDvls
Jesse - vote SnDvls
dubb - unvote Pass
dubb - vote SnDvls
Gram - vote WVUFan
Desnudo - vote Coffee
Lathum - vote SnDvls
AlanT - vote Coffee
path - vote Passacaglia
Desnudo - unvote Coffee
Rpi - vote Mr. Wednesday
Desnudo - vote Coffee
st.cronin - unvote SnDvls
path12 - unvote Passacaglia
st.cronin - vote SnDvls
ardent - unvote Coffee
ardent - vote WVUFan
Schmidty - vote SnDvls
st.cronin - unvote SnDvls
st.cronin - vote WVUFan
dubb - unvote SnDvls
dubb - vote WVUFan
Taz - vote Superman
RPI - unvote Mr. Wednesday
RPI - vote Pasascaglia
Passacaglia - vote SnDvls
Neon - vote SnDvls
Superman - vote Coffee
AlanT - unvote Coffee
AlanT - vote WVUFan
dubb - unvote WVUFan
dubb - vote SnDvls
KWhit - vote WVUFan
path - vote WVUFan
Mr. Wednesday - vote WVUFan
Superman - unvote Coffee
Superman - vote SnDvls

[st.cronin]

day 3
Coffee - vote Mr. Wednesday
dacman - vote Mr. Wednesday
ardent - vote Mr. Wednesday
st.cronin - vote Lathum
st.cronin - unvote Lathum
st.cronin - vote JeeberD
Coder - vote Mr. Wednesday
dubb - vote path12
Coffee - unvote Mr. W
Jeeber - vote dubb
AlanT - vote Jeeber
Gram - vote Path12
Jeeber - unvote dubb
king - vote Ardent
Raiders - vote Pass
Raiders - unvote Pass
Lathum - vote path12
path - vote Mr. W
Jeeber - vote path12
king - unvote ardent
king - vote Mr. W
WVUFan - vote Mr. W
Schmidty - vote path12
Raiders - vote Mr. W
Coffee - vote path
Pass - vote AlanT
st.cronin - unvote Jeeber
Taz - vote Mr. W
st.cronin - vote Path12
RPI - vote Mr. W
Desnudo - vote Mr. W
st.cronin - unvote Path12
st.cronin - vote Jeeber
Mr. W - vote Alan
Coffee - unvote Path
Coffee - AlanT
Raiders - unvote Mr. W
Raiders - vote AlanT
king - unvote Mr. W
king - vote Path
RPI - vote AlanT
Superman - vote Jeeber
Jesse - vote Path12
ardent - unvote Mr. W
dubb - unvote path12
dubb - vote AlanT
ardent - vote AlanT
Schmidty - unvote Path12
Schmidty - vote JeeberD
Mr. W - unvote Path12
Mr. W - vote AlanT

[st.cronin]

just getting those up in case I'm dead at dawn ...

[JeeberD]

Originally Posted by Coder

Caftiprate? That sounds death-eaterish...

Hey now, Pirates don't abide Death Eaters, man...

[Mr. Wednesday]

Originally Posted by Raiders Army

Well, that stinks. I guess gut feelings are usually wrong...

I think at this point we wait to see if anyone disputes Mr. Wednesday's claim to be the bodyguard.

I am not claiming to be the bodyguard. I was only talking about my voting priority.

[Mr. Wednesday]

First set of thoughts on the voting from yesterday --
CW, RA, and king are in a sort of "circle of trust" for me because they started the bandwagon on Alan T (a known wizard) at a point where it was pretty clear that I (known to me to be a wizard) was going to be lynched. To a lesser extent, this works for dubb, ardent, and Schmidty, except that by the time they switched the vote had tightened up and path12 (an unknown quantity to me) was in danger.

[saldana]

Night 3
Yesterdays killing of an innocent hits you all hard. there is no revelry or thoughts of celebration as you each head back to your homes, the beginnings of fear beginning to set in. for he first time, you go to bed worried about losing the ongoing battle with evil and wonder if the losses that you have suffered to this point will cost you this war.

Sleep doesnt come easy for anyone, but it comes even harder for one of you. For the third night in a row, a sound fills the night, but again, it is one that you haven't heard on the nights before. This time it is a scream. Painful, tortured screams punctuate the darkness. It seems the Death Eaters are becoming a bit more brazen in their activities, perhaps they too feel the tides beginning to ebb. All of you are paralyzed with fear waiting for the screaming to stop, and when it does, the green light returns, the Skull and Serpent shining brightly in the sky once more. Tearing your eyes from in it, floating in the blackness, you track down to realize it is above the house of st. cronin. anxiously, you all run to his house, and find his dead body laying in a position that is completely unnatural. he is arched over backwards so far that he appears to have broken his back, his head now touching the heels of his feet. Only one spell could have produced enough pain to have actually made a person writhe to the point that their convusions killed them, and in your already fragile minds, you actually fear it more than the Avada Kedavra. Instead of a quick and painless death like Neon_Chaos orbarkeep49, St. Croninhas been tortured to death with the Cruciatus Curse.

A quick search of his rooms reveals nothing to you. No Pensieve. No Potions. No Pictures with the Minister. St. Cronin was just a normal Wizard. You return to your homes with the same feeling as the day before. One of the only people you knew you could trust is gone, and the Death Eaters are gaining confidence.

it is now day 4, voting ends at 9:30 pm tonight.

[st.cronin]

Circle of trust:

Superman, WVUFan, and everybody that voted for SnDvls- dubb (although he did hop around a bit, looking somewhat fishy), Passacaglia, Schmidty, Lathum, Jesse, Coffee, Grammaticus, king, Dacman. It's possible one of those is a death-eater.

I am suspicious of KWhit and JeeberD. One thing that worries me about Jeeber is that, although I pointed a finger at him early yesterday, NOBODY outside my circle of trust voted for him, or even mentioned his name. This means that NO death-eater voted for or discussed Jeeber as a suspect. I find this highly worrisome.

[st.cronin]

doh

Well guys, you know what to do.

[JeeberD]

And the DE's are trying to make me look bad, taking out the wizard who was going after me. Lovely...

[dacman]

Originally Posted by JeeberD

And the DE's are trying to make me look bad, taking out the wizard who was going after me. Lovely...

Don't worry, I'm not buying it. It's path or Mr. W -- someone pick one and I'll go along.

[Mr. Wednesday]

Second set of thoughts on the voting yesterday:
dacman and coder cast early votes for me and didn't budge. Same for Gram with path12. Alan cast an early vote for JeeberD. Lathum, path12, and WVUFan cast unchanged votes more towards the middle, for path12, me, and me, respectively. Pass and Taz voted semi-late for Alan and me. Desnudo, Superman=#54, and Jesse cast late votes for me, Jeeber, and path12, respectively.

That's my general pool of suspicion, although there are exceptions in Superman=#54 (tiebreaking vote for SnDvls), Lathum (kicked off the charge against SnDvls), WVUFan (invisibility cloak last night), and Alan (obviously). This is what might happen if the DEs see a lot of normal wizards getting suspicion and they want to vote without drawing attention to themselves -- they can safely cast a vote for any of us and then sit back and watch the fireworks, knowing that they are not in the position of starting a bandwagon or breaking a tie.

[Mr. Wednesday]

So, my "gun for a DE vote" will be cast against someone in the pool of dacman, coder, Gram, Pass, Taz, Desnudo, and Jesse.

[Mr. Wednesday]

Hmm, no vote at all yesterday from KWhit. Not sure what to make of that.

I'd kinda like to cross-reference my group that seems like the best pool for yesterday with the previous two days. I've already identified the ones out of the lot that seem the safest, but there may be others that have a positive record from day 1 or 2.

[SnDvls]

Originally Posted by saldana

St. Croninhas been tortured to death with the Cruciatus Curse.

YEAH!

[st.cronin]

Originally Posted by SnDvls

YEAH!

[Coffee Warlord]

Originally Posted by Mr. Wednesday

So, my "gun for a DE vote" will be cast against someone in the pool of dacman, coder, Gram, Pass, Taz, Desnudo, and Jesse.

Gram or Pass, if I had to guess.

Though last night's guess didn't pan out so well. One of those two are high on my list 'o suspicions.

[Coffee Warlord]

And, for that matter, let's add another name to the pile. AE.

Couple pages ago, made a big long post, casting suspicion on me, MrW, and path, and almost immediatly followed alongside me when I went for Alan, which obviously turned out to be a mistake. I mentioned later on I was kinda concerned for several people almost immediatly following my lead.

Now, revisting that post he made. Long winded, hinting at people he doesn't trust, but all in all, a lot of words that had basically no substance. Classic wolf move to make him sound honest without actually *saying* anything.

I wanna take a look back at his votes and other posts. Curiosity has me.

[Raiders Army]

Originally Posted by Mr. Wednesday

I am not claiming to be the bodyguard. I was only talking about my voting priority.

I am confused then. This is what you said earlier:

Originally Posted by Mr. Wednesday

You know, like the seer or the bodyguard. Er, legilimens or retired auror. i.e. cast a vote to an unknown quantity to protect the guy who would be useful.

That led me to believe you were the bodyguard. Hold on...let me find the post where I said I believed you were the bodyguard...

[Coffee Warlord]

AE voted Neon, WVU, and followed me to vote MrW and Alan in order.

Hi Rodney.

Vote Ardent Enthusiast

[Mr. Wednesday]

I'm sorry about the confusion, I was talking only about casting votes -- voting priority. It didn't even occur to me (until you came right out and said it in the post to which I replied) that you might have thought I was claiming to be the bodyguard.

[Raiders Army]

Originally Posted by Raiders Army

Well, I think you're not including yourself on that all-time best bad guy list.

But I agree. The problem is that he did his reveal somewhat "late" in the lynching cycle. If someone else is the real bodyguard, then they may not log on to dispute his claim. I think within the next 24 hours we'll know if someone calls him out on it.

This was my post #1197.

The way you worded your goals made it seem as if you were the bodyguard. That's why I came to that conclusion. I want to think that I'm not the only one who thought that. When I wrote the above post (#1197) you didn't come out and say you weren't the bodyguard then, but you are now after the lynch. Can you explain this?

[Mr. Wednesday]

Originally Posted by Raiders Army

When I wrote the above post (#1197) you didn't come out and say you weren't the bodyguard then, but you are now after the lynch. Can you explain this?

I didn't read it carefully. I would have corrected you immediately if I'd been paying closer attention.