Werewolf XXXVI: Resident Evil (S.T.A.R.S. Wins! Post #1424)

[hoopsguy]

Chief, are you going to have some time to dive into this game over the weekend? Would love to have you a little more involved in the conversation, time permitting.

[hoopsguy]

OOC: SnDvls, burn baby burn!

[Glengoyne]

Originally Posted by Alan T

If you look closely it was tied cronin 4, me 4. Not me and Lathum. The people jumped from me to Lathum to make that run.

Not saying that sndvls isn't suspicious, just want to make sure you dont give him false reasons to attack you back on

Originally Posted by SnDvls

you need to reread it again Glen

it was tied 4-4 St. C & Alan
I broke the tie to make it 5-4 Alan I don't belive it ever got higher than 5 on Alan so if I started a run I hope it wasn't a sprint because the race is over when I voted.

I'm home now. I'm a freaking moron. Maybe I shouldn't play WW from the office.

I was wrong on my assessment of Lathum's votes. I can't read the plain text that Alan presented for me.

I can't really defend my actions, but I'm not moving my vote. I'm careless, and it cost me getting a vote, but worst things have happened. Racer wanted me jailed in day two of the last game, so day three is an improvement I guess.

I'm still sticking with snDvls, eventhough I'm not getting the same warm fuzzy feeling I had when I made my vote.

Sometimes I think my greatest weakness in WW is that I don't let go of things that hurt me, like my senseless bashing of Saldana over jailing Swaggs in Tombstone. Even a full day after my suspicion of Sal had cleared, I was back beating the drum calling him a willfully incompetent sheriff. I won't toss that bone aside. I just brazenlyand stubbornly hold on, even when it hurts. Like a bulldog. In this case, like a stupid bulldog.
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The wife is sick, I have to do something about dinner. I'll be back before lynch.

[Alan T]

zzzzzzzz

[hoopsguy]

Playing poker at this point - will poke the head in to see if there is anything interesting every so often. But the vote seems pretty much in hand at the moment.

[Tyrith]

If I wasn't DEAD I could keep you all better company! :P

[hoopsguy]

(Nudges Tyrith with a stick) ...

[Mr. Wednesday]

I just got back, and I'm starting forward from post 926. I'm going to try to check in on the vote, but unless there's a pressing need, I'll hold off on actually voting right now.

[Mr. Wednesday]

OK, it looks like it's not pressing.

My thinking from yesterday is, Alan might be Umbrella, since he wasn't too wild about the whole Lathum thing, and I think hoopsguy is not Umbrella. No read on zombies right now. We need to get one today, they'll probably multiply tonight.

[Mr. Wednesday]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Sure, I'll list a few Tyrith posts from yesterday from my notes:

#471 - lynch of Cronin does not excite him
#516 - rather vote for Fouts than Cronin
#556 - doesn't think Cronin is a bad guy, is annoyed that Cronin self-voted
#587 - asks Cronin what he is going to do
#600 - Cronin's reasoning is sound
#602 - really does not want us to kill Cronin

He moved around on several other players, but had a lower level of certainty on them than he did with Cronin. Which made me believe he was exactly the role he had once I started searching yesterday for someone who might have scanned Cronin Night 1. This was the time that I changed my philosophy for yesterday to not vote for Cronin - can pull up those posts as well if you want me to do this.

Anyways, sucks to lose this STARS role but it vaults Cronin to the top of my trusted list for today. There cannot have been a conversion yet (by rule), so I feel very confident in him today.

So, um, hoops said this early in the day, but now it looks like cronin is on the block... I'm guessing something changed?

[hoopsguy]

MrW, let me know when you are caught up and I'll talk about what has changed if you don't think I spelled it out enough.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by Mr. Wednesday

OK, it looks like it's not pressing.

My thinking from yesterday is, Alan might be Umbrella, since he wasn't too wild about the whole Lathum thing, and I think hoopsguy is not Umbrella. No read on zombies right now. We need to get one today, they'll probably multiply tonight.

Not sure why you say this when it was me who pointed out the lathum stuff that people jumped on. Im estatic he got lynched

[Mr. Wednesday]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

MrW, let me know when you are caught up and I'll talk about what has changed if you don't think I spelled it out enough.

It was kinda obvious, no need to explain it.

[Mr. Wednesday]

Originally Posted by Alan T

Not sure why you say this when it was me who pointed out the lathum stuff that people jumped on. Im estatic he got lynched

If you voted for him at all, it was pretty late.

[SnDvls]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

OOC: SnDvls, burn baby burn!

OOC: my wife teaches 1st grade and it's really cute to see all her kids in afros and disco outfits. some of the PTO parents were dressed up too...pretty scary

[Mr. Wednesday]

I don't particularly trust Alan right now. hoops is looking better to me, so I'll follow him... for now...

VOTE st.cronin

[hoopsguy]

Probably too early in the game to vote nightfall, right?

[Mr. Wednesday]

Wha?

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by Mr. Wednesday

If you voted for him at all, it was pretty late.

it was my calling him out about fouts that people used to lynch him. It might not show in the votes, but it was there if you go back to read the conversation of the day.

I just felt at the time and still feel cronin the better target

[hoopsguy]

Was the "wha" to nightfall?

I'm sure there are a few who have not seen that in games - basically if it looks like the vote is set and not moving (would be very surprised if it did on a Friday night) then people can vote nightfall to move ahead with lynch early.

Basically bored sitting and waiting to see if I played OK today or if I'm a frigging dunce.

[Mr. Wednesday]

Yeah, I figured it out after posting my confusion.

[Fouts]

I thought he meant he was playing the new Guild Wars expansion.

[Glengoyne]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Was the "wha" to nightfall?

I'm sure there are a few who have not seen that in games - basically if it looks like the vote is set and not moving (would be very surprised if it did on a Friday night) then people can vote nightfall to move ahead with lynch early.

Basically bored sitting and waiting to see if I played OK today or if I'm a frigging dunce.

I'm back with sushi in hand, and the jury is in on me. I'm a dunce.

As far as I'm concerned if Cronin comes back zombie, you and Alan are freaking geniuses. If he doesn't then...I don't know. You guys are in line to be lynched I guess.?

If Cronin is STARS, how close could Umbrella be to equalling our numbers?

I don't know, I kind of feel like if Cronin is Stars, then my thinking is back to ground zero. If he comes up zombie, then I'll stand in whatever line you guys tell me.

[Chubby]

time check

[Glengoyne]

Hey did you guys know there was a new FoF release?

You guys have sucked me in something fierce.

[hoopsguy]

LOL, yeah saw something about that yesterday afternoon

Funny, funny stuff.

[ntndeacon]

Originally Posted by Glengoyne

Hey did you guys know there was a new FoF release?

You guys have sucked me in something fierce.

You mean people talk about FOF here? I am shocked! I am shocked and appalled!

[Glengoyne]

Chubby still doing the vote?

How luck can Fouts be?

[Chubby]

After yet another night with the death of S.T.A.R.S. members the citizens of Raccoon City were uneasy. It was decided once again that the focus of conversation for the day would be St Cronin. Unlike previous days, the conversation never changed and it was decided that St Cronin MUST be a zombie!

St Cronin is led into the center of the town square. "I've told you for three days now, I'm just a regular member of S.T.A.R.S.!" His cries fall on deaf ears as the crowd cheers when the executioner emerges with shotgun in hand. Three loud shotgun blasts later and St Cronin drops like a bag of rocks. Witnessing the death of St Cronin, the crowd can't help but feel like they've been here before...

The coroner slowly approaches the corpse, half expecting it to lurch at his feet and begin gnawing on his shoes or something. He carefully draws the blood sample and awaits to see if it's one line or two. One line for not zombie, two lines for zombie; it's just that easy! Finally the results come in...

St Cronin was NOT a zombie!

The crowd is disappointed and they quickly file home, disgusted in themselves. A search of St Cronin's home reveals a gun in it's holster tucked away in the closet underneath a swimsuit poster of Claire Redfield.

Night Three ends Sat 11pm EST

[Glengoyne]

oops should be lucky

[Alan T]

well I suck then. Its cool if you all want to kill me tommorrow

[hoopsguy]

Well, I'm pretty sure that Alan will be around come Day 4.

[Glengoyne]

Somebody gots some 'splaining to do!

[ntndeacon]

does someone have the voting history?

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by Glengoyne

Somebody gots some 'splaining to do!

I was wrong. Like I said I'll accept a lynching tommorrow. Sorry

[hoopsguy]

Alan, are you interesting in trying to explain why you were so hot for Cronin when you were not 100% sure?

The fact that you had not moved your vote for two straight days and were willing to trade your life for Cronin led me to believe you were Internal Affairs. I knew you were not Police Chief from Bullet on Day 1.

[Glengoyne]

Originally Posted by Alan T

I was wrong. Like I said I'll accept a lynching tommorrow. Sorry

OK. I feel the need to go a little democrat on you and Hoops.

I want to know what you knew, and when you knew it!

[hoopsguy]

We are looking at a potential conversion tonight as well as a night kill. I would encourage the Sniper to decide on a target tonight - I know I should be in their thought process as well after today - and take a shot tonight to see if we can start to even the odds up a little bit.

[Fouts]

Originally Posted by Chubby

After yet another night with the death of S.T.A.R.S. members the citizens of Raccoon City were uneasy. It was decided once again that the focus of conversation for the day would be St Cronin. Unlike previous days, the conversation never changed and it was decided that St Cronin MUST be a zombie!

St Cronin is led into the center of the town square. "I've told you for three days now, I'm just a regular member of S.T.A.R.S.!" His cries fall on deaf ears as the crowd cheers when the executioner emerges with shotgun in hand. Three loud shotgun blasts later and St Cronin drops like a bag of rocks. Witnessing the death of St Cronin, the crowd can't help but feel like they've been here before...

The coroner slowly approaches the corpse, half expecting it to lurch at his feet and begin gnawing on his shoes or something. He carefully draws the blood sample and awaits to see if it's one line or two. One line for not zombie, two lines for zombie; it's just that easy! Finally the results come in...

St Cronin was NOT a zombie!

The crowd is disappointed and they quickly file home, disgusted in themselves. A search of St Cronin's home reveals a gun in it's holster tucked away in the closet underneath a swimsuit poster of Claire Redfield.

Night Three ends Sat 11pm EST

Shouldn't that be a swimsuit poster of Tom Brady?

[Alan T]

Nope, I never lied about my role. I just misread what someone else was doing in the game that I had been tracking for a while. I based my reasoning on who came out and said I was a suspect, I ruled them out as police chief and then had it narrowed down to one person who had targeted cronin.

So evidentally the chief at some point said I was a suspect which I wouldnt have thought they would have done. I just misplayed and cost us a day.

You all can lynch me tommorrow

[ntndeacon]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Alan, are you interesting in trying to explain why you were so hot for Cronin when you were not 100% sure?

The fact that you had not moved your vote for two straight days and were willing to trade your life for Cronin led me to believe you were Internal Affairs. I knew you were not Police Chief from Bullet on Day 1.

I was thinking the same way, which is why I did not vote for Alan either. This is a set back certainly.

[ntndeacon]

Originally Posted by Alan T

Nope, I never lied about my role. I just misread what someone else was doing in the game that I had been tracking for a while. I based my reasoning on who came out and said I was a suspect, I ruled them out as police chief and then had it narrowed down to one person who had targeted cronin.

So evidentally the chief at some point said I was a suspect which I wouldnt have thought they would have done. I just misplayed and cost us a day.

You all can lynch me tommorrow

The only problem with this is if you are telling the truth this will cost us another night.

[Mr. Wednesday]

Originally Posted by Glengoyne

As far as I'm concerned if Cronin comes back zombie, you and Alan are freaking geniuses. If he doesn't then...I don't know. You guys are in line to be lynched I guess.?

hoops, maybe. I think Alan's Umbrella, and right now we need to be worrying about zombies, not Umbrella.

[hoopsguy]

Glen, I posted my thoughts this morning on Cronin but was shaken by the fact that Tyrith could only ID Umbrella, not faction.

I think I argued pretty intensely for Cronin but I didn't see other people joining the fray with me and everyone had checked in. If the Chief knew that Alan was not STARS I expected them to assert themselves at some point. I didn't see it happening.

So I went back looking at the timing on Alan's vote yesterday. It was within 30 minutes of results going up. He never moved his vote on Cronin at any point during the day. He stayed on his vote with Cronin today when I pushed at him hard. Why would he make that play?

I figured that he either had to KNOW that Cronin was not STARS or else he was making a play at us to buy another day. But Day 3 wasn't end game mode. We would still have time to win the game, so why would he make an over the top play, when he came out and said he would be the next lynch?

Anyways, I talked myself into him as Internal Affairs.

[SnDvls]

Alan I won't be going after you for what it's worth
I think you were just reading into something way too much on St. C

[hoopsguy]

Final Vote:

(7) St Cronin - Alan T (949), hoopsguy (1100), Path (1137), BrianD (1143), Spleen (1151), Rum (1199), MrW (1216)
(3) Fouts - Anxiety (979), NTN (1161), LSG (1194)
(2) SnDVls - Fouts (935), Glengoyne (1181)
(1) Anxiety - St Cronin (987)
(1) Glengoyne - SnDvls (1189)

Alan, feel like posting the vote/unvote stuff? Pretty sure I will be double-checking it after today.

[Mr. Wednesday]

Originally Posted by Alan T

it was my calling him out about fouts that people used to lynch him. It might not show in the votes, but it was there if you go back to read the conversation of the day.

I'm in the process of doing so (I'll have a far more detailed reply than I really should produce), and I don't know WTF you're talking about. I'm up to 10:30, and you haven't directly addressed Lathum at all, and at this point, he's ahead in the voting.

[Fouts]

Well, I didn't vote for Lathum and caught some heat. I didn't vote for st.cronin, will I get some slack?

I still like my candidate for lynching.

[Fouts]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

We are looking at a potential conversion tonight as well as a night kill. I would encourage the Sniper to decide on a target tonight - I know I should be in their thought process as well after today - and take a shot tonight to see if we can start to even the odds up a little bit.

Sniper has to be sure of his target, else we are in big trouble.

[BrianD]

Originally Posted by Fouts

Sniper has to be sure of his target, else we are in big trouble.

I'd like to echo these words. We are down to 13 now? If the sniper hits a non-zombie, we are down to 11. If the zombies get 2 night kills again...9. Can the same zombie night-kill and convert? I'm assuming not. I think the sniper should only take the shot if they are sure of the target.