Werewolf LXXII: Chess (Checkmate!)

[path12]

Originally Posted by Anxiety

HAH

I ordered th hot pn path, but the others said no, but I fought them and I won and boy - hahahahahha


I gifted black

Can't say I didn't kind of expect it. Go White!

[Abe Sargent]

Originally Posted by Neon_Chaos

Anxiety, funny as it is, I will actually vote with you.

If Black can't win this game, I would rather have the Wolves win.

I'm in

[RendeR]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

i've been making a table of contents for a 350+ page word document for the last hour and a half or so. siiiiiigh.

Word 2007 will do that with 3 mouse clicks if you have chapter names and section headers done properly.

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by RendeR

Word 2007 will do that with 3 mouse clicks if you have chapter names and section headers done properly.

Yeah, problem is all they gave me is Word 2003, plus they wanted article headings that weren't created in word as the TOC, so I have to manually go through and mark each one. It's loads of fun.

[st.cronin]

Jackal, who did you scan last night?

[Neon_Chaos]

Black villagers, time for a huddle.

Should we lynch the wolves or help them?

[Abe Sargent]

My favorite part of this game was on Day One and I told you my Wolf strategy, and then I did every step in front of your eyes, and no one noticed. I didn;t get a single vote, nor did anyone say, not even once, Anxiety's acting a bit odd this game, unusual, etc. I had fun with that post, let me tell you.

[Passacaglia]

All PMs have been sent out.

[The Jackal]

My bad, they're making me wrap presents at work now..

Unfortunately I scanned NTN in case he didn't get lynched, and he came back as not a wolf, obviously.

[st.cronin]

VOTE ANXIETY

VOTE NIGHTFALL

[st.cronin]

Jackal, you're in perfect position to scan Render tonight. I'm planning to move to a spot where you could scan me as well, should you want to.

[PurdueBrad]

IF I've read this right and god knows if I have, this is the vote that makes sense:

vote Anxiety

White team, feel free to correct me if I've mis-read something again. I'm still in a bit of a daze over whatever happened at deadline.

[PurdueBrad]

Oh, let me add to that:

vote Anxiety
vote nightfall

[Passacaglia]

For the record, I don't accept nightfall votes. I mean you can vote it if you want, but it's meaningless to me -- it doesn't lock in your vote, and it won't make the deadline come any sooner.

[st.cronin]

No, that's correct Purdue. White should be voting Anxiety. Black should be, too.

[Abe Sargent]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

For the record, I don't accept nightfall votes. I mean you can vote it if you want, but it's meaningless to me -- it doesn't lock in your vote, and it won't make the deadline come any sooner.

's alright. I wasn't going to vote for Nightfall anyway.

[st.cronin]

ntndeacon, I recommend you move Southwest, move time 1.

[hoopsguy]

Originally Posted by Anxiety

My favorite part of this game was on Day One and I told you my Wolf strategy, and then I did every step in front of your eyes, and no one noticed. I didn;t get a single vote, nor did anyone say, not even once, Anxiety's acting a bit odd this game, unusual, etc. I had fun with that post, let me tell you.

Ooh, ooh - quote it please!

[mccollins]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

No, that's correct Purdue. White should be voting Anxiety. Black should be, too.

If we go with the theory that black and white each had 2 wolves (4 total), then should we target white pieces for lynch next?

Neon, this could be a white-black compromise.

[jeheinz72]

Wow, I take one lunch and mayhem breaks out. Good gravy. I'm still digesting what I think of all of this. I tend to believe Qwik and can't imagine why I won't vote Anxiety today.

More coming as I think this through though.

[mccollins]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Ooh, ooh - quote it please!

Yeah, that'd be quicker than me finding it.

Why did you reveal Anxiety?

[mccollins]

dola, that is, why did you just agree to being outed?

[Abe Sargent]

Originally Posted by Anxiety

And that's true, I admit. Every WW game is different. Still, I try to imagine what I would do if I were a wolf. I'd go after the top tier three players (Lathum, BK, hoopsguy) the first few nights, leave one around to draw suspicion (why are you still alive) then hit the good second tier players. (Like Chief Rum or stcronin). That's my general strategy as a wolf. So axing one of the big three on Day One, even with the altered game, just seems like it helps the wolves for sure. Yes, there is a 50/50 chance he has a different color than me, and thus is a sort of enemy, but even the other color is sort of an ally against the wolves.

Quoted for hoops

Note that hoops was on my team, so I killed Bk and scanned Lathum as a Knight immediately. Even CR went down.

[st.cronin]

Originally Posted by mccollins

If we go with the theory that black and white each had 2 wolves (4 total), then should we target white pieces for lynch next?

Neon, this could be a white-black compromise.

Yes. I think Qwik actually said that Anxiety was the last Black Wolf, but I don't know if I buy that.

[Abe Sargent]

Originally Posted by mccollins

dola, that is, why did you just agree to being outed?

BecauseI don;t have big giant balls like hoops. He once got outed in a game i GM;d and convinced enought that it wasn;t him. I've tried to lie before (like when i was lucifer) and failed. I just can;t do it. Might as well have fun with my final day.

[mccollins]

Originally Posted by Anxiety

Quoted for hoops

Note that hoops was on my team, so I killed Bk and scanned Lathum as a Knight immediately. Even CR went down.

Honestly, when I read that the first time, I think I already had my vote on hoops and thought to myself "I bet he's using the trick where you name one of your fellow wolves in a list so it doesn't come back to bite you later".

However, I didn't make any note of that little thought and you talked so infrequently that I didn't really consider you enough either.

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

Jackal, you're in perfect position to scan Render tonight. I'm planning to move to a spot where you could scan me as well, should you want to.

I'm out for a little bit, but yeah, I was already planning on scanning Render (in fact he was my backup for NTN).

[Neon_Chaos]

Heh. The White Pawns are all attacking.

This should be interesting.

[mccollins]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

Yes. I think Qwik actually said that Anxiety was the last Black Wolf, but I don't know if I buy that.

The word "last" really stuck out to me as well! Like, "Lynch me, but don't focus on anymore black pieces!"

However, the theory of wolves evenly displaced (among teams and piece types) seems logical to me. In addition, with both Queens gone as villagers, the theory would extend that there are 4 and not 5 wolves (5 would be if we had a Queen, Rook, Knight, Bishop, and Pawn wolves).

[st.cronin]

Originally Posted by mccollins

The word "last" really stuck out to me as well! Like, "Lynch me, but don't focus on anymore black pieces!"

However, the theory of wolves evenly displaced (among teams and piece types) seems logical to me. In addition, with both Queens gone as villagers, the theory would extend that there are 4 and not 5 wolves (5 would be if we had a Queen, Rook, Knight, Bishop, and Pawn wolves).

If this is correct, and I am not sure at all that it is, then my partner is a wolf.

[jeheinz72]

Vote Anxiety

I can't see where this isn't the right play for me.

I wouldn't see the motivation for Qwik to lie or it be 3 black wolves (to 1 white or 3 white frankly).

[jeheinz72]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

If this is correct, and I am not sure at all that it is, then my partner is a wolf.

I think the idea that wolves are 1 each of Pawn, Rook, Knight and Bishop adds up for me as well. I thought that earlier when you mentioned the White Queen might be a wolf yesterday. I figured a Wolf as a Queen was unlikely (and possibly disallowed by Pass) just because at end-game it'd be very hard for that team to checkmate the king with a wolf queen unless it was a very imbalanced board.

[mccollins]

Vote Anxiety

I mean, unless something happens between now and deadline, I've got to vote out the wolf who could screw with the chess game.

[st.cronin]

That's problematic, since that points to one of the white pawns being a wolf. That means white does not control the vote - black + wolves control the vote.

[Qwikshot]

I was trying to kill the queen...but of course, that already occurred.

Correction, I didn't state Anx was the last wolf, just that he was one.

St. Cronin is not a wolf.

I would expect some protection..

As for why I voted clap...I was trying to go along with Anx's play but I was going to change my vote at the last minute, then the page dumped and I had to rush and do my reveal as I thought I was as good as dead with my jump...

For the record, I think Lathum and Olliegirl are wolves...but I cannot prove this.

[mccollins]

On "checkmating":

If I understand things correctly, your enemy King just has to be captured and not properly 'mated'. There is so much happening over night (8 turns of time for pieces to move) and it also seems that the King could easily 'move into check'.

[jeheinz72]

Originally Posted by Qwikshot

I was trying to kill the queen...but of course, that already occurred.

Correction, I didn't state Anx was the last wolf, just that he was one.

St. Cronin is not a wolf.

I would expect some protection..

As for why I voted clap...I was trying to go along with Anx's play but I was going to change my vote at the last minute, then the page dumped and I had to rush and do my reveal as I thought I was as good as dead with my jump...

For the record, I think Lathum and Olliegirl are wolves...but I cannot prove this.

?? Lathum is a dead villager

[st.cronin]

Best case scenario is black + wolves have the same number of votes as white. I count 8 white players left, 5 black. We're down two white pawns - if its a white wolf down 2 pawns, then white has 10 votes, black + wolves also has 10 votes. If the white wolf has more than 2 pawns, they control the vote.

Black, vote Anxiety off. As a measure of trust, here's my board:

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by jeheinz72

?? Lathum is a dead villager

i see a flaw in his logic

[Qwikshot]

then I thought Lathum was a wolf...

I don't believe Anx is the last wolf though, not by a long shot.

[jeheinz72]

and also Olie, in my estimation is almost certainly on the black team. Like 80%+ in my eyes, 3 black wolves?

Not that I really think you're a wolf, I'm just gosh darned confused by this latest post you've put up.

[Abe Sargent]

Originally Posted by Qwikshot

I was trying to kill the queen...but of course, that already occurred.

Correction, I didn't state Anx was the last wolf, just that he was one.

St. Cronin is not a wolf.

I would expect some protection..

As for why I voted clap...I was trying to go along with Anx's play but I was going to change my vote at the last minute, then the page dumped and I had to rush and do my reveal as I thought I was as good as dead with my jump...

For the record, I think Lathum and Olliegirl are wolves...but I cannot prove this.

Do you read the posts that our gm makes

[Qwikshot]

Originally Posted by Lathum

i see a flaw in his logic

Gimme a break, I just got home and read through everything, I missed it...

[Lathum]

dola- man, it really is getting hard for me to prove I'm no wolf these days

[mccollins]

Originally Posted by Qwikshot

For the record, I think Lathum and Olliegirl are wolves...but I cannot prove this.

Lathum was lynched and was a villager.

[jeheinz72]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

Black, vote Anxiety off. As a measure of trust, here's my board:

Haha that's kinda funny really (I don't see anything)

[Qwikshot]

I completely missed the night moves post...just read the PM and the space where the queen was, was blank...

[st.cronin]

Qwik, you are at D4? I don't think you can safely move, unless its to C6. Any other spot, and you're likely to be captured, according to my board.

[st.cronin]

Yeah, sorry, deleted my board at the last second, didn't edit the post. I'm giving Qwik solid advice on how to get out of trouble, though. I think he trusts me.

[Qwikshot]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

Qwik, you are at D4? I don't think you can safely move, unless its to C6. Any other spot, and you're likely to be captured, according to my board.

Wasn't planning on living much longer...yes I'm at D4