WW LXXIV Killer Kittens on Mount FujiMori day (GAME OVER- KITTENS WIN)

[hoopsguy]

Olie, Mccollins - do you guys feel good about the Heinz vote compared to the KWhit one? Because I think the # of "cleared" villagers is about split between our two candidates.

[The Jackal]

But MC, I do think that as the numbers dwindle the cleared folks will probably want to start voting together. Not essential yet, but we'll start being on the same page soon I imagine.

[jeheinz72]

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

Nail. Meet coffin.

Probably right.

So when I come back kitteh, who do you guys go after? Might as well start having that talk amongst yourselves now.

[Coffee Warlord]

Originally Posted by Lathum

I think Eaglefan is trying to set it up so that he can later come out and fake reveal as a seer.

Doubt it. I think the time has passed for that. There's just no way anyone can sanely challenge a claimed role at this point.

[The Jackal]

PING Lathum - you do realize your vote is still on olie, right

[oliegirl]

Lathum, why haven't you moved your vote off me yet???? Your vote for Kwhit never counted b/c you didn't unvote me.

I'm really at a loss on who to scan tonight...I think if we can agree on someone in the next 23 minutes it would be good. Ideas??? Anyone feel super strongly for or against scanning someone???

[Coffee Warlord]

Originally Posted by jeheinz72

Probably right.

So when I come back kitteh, who do you guys go after? Might as well start having that talk amongst yourselves now.

Like I said earlier. SL and EF are still tops on my list, based on voting patterns.

If anyone has worse offenders for votes, I'd like to hear it.

[jeheinz72]

Originally Posted by oliegirl

Lathum, why haven't you moved your vote off me yet???? Your vote for Kwhit never counted b/c you didn't unvote me.

I'm really at a loss on who to scan tonight...I think if we can agree on someone in the next 23 minutes it would be good. Ideas??? Anyone feel super strongly for or against scanning someone???

He tried to vote KWhit but didn't unvote.

Hook it up Lathum.

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by oliegirl

Lathum, why haven't you moved your vote off me yet???? Your vote for Kwhit never counted b/c you didn't unvote me.

I'm really at a loss on who to scan tonight...I think if we can agree on someone in the next 23 minutes it would be good. Ideas??? Anyone feel super strongly for or against scanning someone???

You have until an hour after deadline, right?

[Lathum]

Unvote OlieGirl

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by oliegirl

Lathum, why haven't you moved your vote off me yet???? Your vote for Kwhit never counted b/c you didn't unvote me.

I'm really at a loss on who to scan tonight...I think if we can agree on someone in the next 23 minutes it would be good. Ideas??? Anyone feel super strongly for or against scanning someone???

I'd scan one of EF, SL, or CR. No particular order.

[Lathum]

Unvote Kwhit

I should still have a vote now

[Coffee Warlord]

Originally Posted by oliegirl

Lathum, why haven't you moved your vote off me yet???? Your vote for Kwhit never counted b/c you didn't unvote me.

I'm really at a loss on who to scan tonight...I think if we can agree on someone in the next 23 minutes it would be good. Ideas??? Anyone feel super strongly for or against scanning someone???

If Jeheinz is good, I'm voting you scan the Aquatic Cat.

[The Jackal]

To be honest it's not crucial who you scan. We've likely got three wolves amongst the uncleared, but finding a kitten is almost as helpful. If you manage to nail a wolf, we'll all be pleased.

[oliegirl]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

You have until an hour after deadline, right?

Yeah - I am off at noon though and have some stuff to do around the house...I can hang around for a little after deadline until we can reach a consensus...would like to get away sooner rather than later though.

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

I'd scan one of EF, SL, or CR. No particular order.

I agree with this. KWhit is a possibility, too.

[hoopsguy]

Olie, if JEH comes up kitteh then go ahead and scan me.

If he comes up doggie, then I would like a little credit for getting good votes in on two straight bad guys.

If you are looking at someone besides me take a spin at Chief Rum (good player, not cleared), your husband (hard to be partial on him without knowing, right?), or EagleFan (toughest read for me in the game, based on his play and past games with him).

[jeheinz72]

Not that I have a say, but presuming you all incorrectly lynch me, just scan an uncleared person on me and you're sure to have your best odds at finding a dog.

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

I agree with this. KWhit is a possibility, too.

That's very true. KWhit would be a good scan so we know whether or not to go that route, since Heinz being lynched is pretty much irrelevant to KWhit.

[Seolian]

UNVOTE JEHIENZE
VOTE KWHIT

Just following the people that I think are good.

[jeheinz72]

You may want to slant it to picking a less-active person to scan, since if they are uncleared and hard to engage it'll be harder to get them lynched, dog or cat.

[claphamsa]

Kwhit- Jackyl 1007, Pass 1008, heinze 1072, RendeR 1174, CW1189, seolion 1220
Heinze- Cronin878, CR1062, EagleFan1065,Kwhitt 1100, Olie1148, mcollins 1156, hoops 1192

[jeheinz72]

7-6 with 2 non-voters (Lathum and Dangarion)?

[Coffee Warlord]

KWhit - 6
Heinz - 7

Interesting.

[claphamsa]

this is exciting!

[mccollins]

Honestly, both Seolian/SeaLion and Dangarion come across as newer players trying to jump in there and I don't really suspect them very much for their actions/votes as of yet.

As others have mentioned, it's highly probable there is/was a veteran wolf who wouldn't let them make some of their moves.

Just my $0.02 on those two.

[jeheinz72]

hoops, given you're not cleared, your own survival has a better chance by not casting a deciding vote upon me.

I think I was clear in why I voted for you Day One, I was reading you similarly to the game we were just wolves together in.

[Coffee Warlord]

Originally Posted by mccollins

Honestly, both Seolian/SeaLion and Dangarion come across as newer players trying to jump in there and I don't really suspect them very much for their actions/votes as of yet.

As others have mentioned, it's highly probable there is/was a veteran wolf who wouldn't let them make some of their moves.

Just my $0.02 on those two.

Yeah, but despite offering advice and all that, you can't possibly control/aid every move they make.

[hoopsguy]

Is Dangarion around? How do we feel about a tie here? Lathum could put us in that spot, and it gives us one more day without a lynch - for better or worse.

With as big a COT as we have right now, I think I'm OK with no lynch. We should have one more scan to add to the mix for tomorrow, and a nearly invincible COT to go after remaining uncleared folks.

[RendeR]

Talk about vote shifting, this thing was a done deal 30 minutes ago, now its neck n neck =)

[The Jackal]

I don't know if I like the no lynch. It gives us no information from today.

[Coffee Warlord]

Frankly, unless we REALLY fucked up and get the bodyguard, I'd rather see a lynch today. Give of definitive info one way or another on who someone is.

[The Jackal]

I think I should ask my cat what to do.

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by Seolian

UNVOTE JEHIENZE
VOTE KWHIT

Just following the people that I think are good.

Which people are those?

[Lathum]

Vote KWhit

if Heinze was a wolf he would have fake revealed as the bodyguard by now.

[hoopsguy]

Originally Posted by jeheinz72

hoops, given you're not cleared, your own survival has a better chance by not casting a deciding vote upon me.

I think I was clear in why I voted for you Day One, I was reading you similarly to the game we were just wolves together in.

At this point I'm not all that worried about my survival - I think good guys are winning this game with or without me. I would like the individual win, but I don't see a reason to move a vote between one guy I lean towards distrust over to a guy I consider neutral in my reads.

The movement of another uncleared guy from candidate 1 to candidate 2 makes me think there is a decent chance we have either two villagers or two wolves in the mix. In which case it wouldn't matter what I do here.

[Seolian]

Coffee and Jackyl

[jeheinz72]

I'll admit, I'm not the BG (psh, If I was, I should lose just for not bringing it up!)

[Lathum]

dola- Has dang dropped out/ lost interest?

EF is my #1 suspect right now.

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by Seolian

Coffee and Jackyl

Why them?

[Coffee Warlord]

Tie.

Someone gonna move?

[RendeR]

Originally Posted by Lathum

Vote KWhit

if Heinze was a wolf he would have fake revealed as the bodyguard by now.

I have to agree with you on this. There really hasn't been the reaction to his assumed doom that I would expect if he were a dog.

[The Jackal]

does anyone else agree with hoops about the no lynch?

[jeheinz72]

Originally Posted by Lathum

Vote KWhit

if Heinze was a wolf he would have fake revealed as the bodyguard by now.

That's a valid point. One that frankly I should've probably made myself about an hour ago.

[claphamsa]

Kwhit- Jackyl 1007, Pass 1008, heinze 1072, RendeR 1174, CW1189, seolion 1220, Lathum1235
Heinze- Cronin878, CR1062, EagleFan1065,Kwhitt 1100, Olie1148, mcollins 1156, hoops 1192

[Seolian]

I just think that they are not wolves at this point. Although I am new and probably would take a few games to really get the hang of it.

[EagleFan]

I see my name mentioned a lot in th eposts but not enough time to reply to them now. Had a brief couple minutes to look at the thread but have to go to another office shortly.

If I am still alive when I get back online I will try to give some defense to myself (not really sure what I need defended for accept my unvote of PB on day 1, though that was before the real mess started).

I will defend one thing that stood out, which is my playing style I guess. I was called out, again by heiz, for ruffling feathers early with some comments about a few players which I made in jest. I only mention 4 names with serious implication and the other posts were made jokingly (you need to shake the tree a little to see what falls out) but I never said that I truly suspect the people in those posts at that time. In this he keeps mentioning my calling out oliegirl, which I never did. I only made the joke vote on her for the Sex in the City thing but never intended on that vote remaining on her. She had no action on her at that time and was not in any danger (if that were the case I would not have made that vote).


Oh, one other thing. Not setting up for any kind of reveal. One thing that has been a pattern, other than always being on opposite sides as PB, is that I have either been a vanilla villager or the brutal. And neither would lend themselves to a reveal.


Damn, getting called and have to go. Will be back later (not sure how later).

[hoopsguy]

What does a lynch gain us? There is the obvious of a potential wolf, but I think the downside of lynching a villager is worse in this particular case.

I'll put out the long argument next, but the above is the short one.

[jeheinz72]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

does anyone else agree with hoops about the no lynch?

I do! I do! I do!

Here's what I know

Lynching me - 100% bad (from my POV)
Lynching KWhit - Could be good, could be bad
Lynching neither - doesn't hurt us any (Olie can just scan one of us two)
Lynching both (should the tiebreaking procedure be random) - Could be very bad if KWhit is also good, but if he's bad, well then, it's better than lynching just me.

[The Jackal]

But there's also a downside in still having the same amount of uncleared people.