The Official March Madness 2007 Thread - Page 25

Chief Rum · 03-31-2007, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

I never would have guessed Noah's fg % was that low. I still think he'll be a good pro, though.

If his normal game is like what I have seen tonight, I can see why it's low. He's not a post guy. He's a face the basket guy who doesn't seem to like the physical stuff underneath. If you're taking 10 feet fadeaways and 15 foot jumpers, it's harder to get the high FG%.

Chief Rum · 03-31-2007, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by cartman

Well, according to your legendary coach, John Wooten, you shouldn't prepare a scheme for a particular opponent. According to his philosophy, you run your plan to perfection, and make the other guy adjust.

You and Hodge must be blood brothers. It's Wooden.

A Wooten is a backup journeyman infielder.

And in that respect, Howland stuck with the scheme that worked in the past. Only it didn't work.

cartman · 03-31-2007, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

You and Hodge must be blood brothers. It's Wooden.

Aaagh, I know that, as well. Friggin' spell check likes Wooten as well as Wooden.

But not 'Aaagh' or 'Friggin''

cartman · 03-31-2007, 09:54 PM

Dola,

I'm also very disappointed in you, CR. You are taking this extremely well. I was expecting an epic GE style rant on your part.

MrBug708 · 03-31-2007, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

dola, I was really bummed we didn't get Babbitt, but if we recover with Gordon and also bring in Holliday, I'll be happy. Then get the Wear twins and/or Sidney in '09.

Alex Legion is rumored to have been let out of his LOI. The Wear twins are near locks for UCLA, Jrue is not likely

Chief Rum · 03-31-2007, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by cartman

Dola,

I'm also very disappointed in you, CR. You are taking this extremely well. I was expecting an epic GE style rant on your part.

lol...naw, you have me misread. While I admit freely to homerism, I am usually the more under control Bruin poster, much like you with Texas.

MrBug (and I think he'll admit to it) is much more prone to the UCLA histrionics. What I am to you, he is to IMTG (but he isn't a butthole).

cartman · 03-31-2007, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

lol...naw, you have me misread. While I admit freely to homerism, I am usually the more under control Bruin poster, much like you with Texas.

MrBug (and I think he'll admit to it) is much more prone to the UCLA histrionics. What I am to you, he is to IMTG (but he isn't a butthole).

Well, when one of your guys makes a clean sweep of the season ending 'Player of the Year' awards, it makes the pain of losing a little less potent.

Just a little, though.

MrBug708 · 03-31-2007, 10:02 PM

Ha! I'm fine with this loss, UCLA didnt have the stars like Florida.

And call me an ass (IMTG) why dont ya chief

Chief Rum · 03-31-2007, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBug708

Alex Legion is rumored to have been let out of his LOI. The Wear twins are near locks for UCLA, Jrue is not likely

Yeah, I heard that, and I would love to get Legion, or the other guard Michicgan let go (who is also pretty good, isn't he?). But Jrue seems to have been intrigued by our second straight Final Four and has returned us to the mix (although still behind UNC and UW). The question is if we are willing to give up on Jrue for Legion. Also, we would need to lose someone from this team to bring in Legion. Aflallo could leave or Wright transfer, but we don't know yet if that will happen.

cartman · 03-31-2007, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBug708

And call me an ass (IMTG) why dont ya chief

To be fair, he did call you a 'lesser ass' AKA 'assus minor' as opposed to the IMTG level 'assus major'.

Then there are the GE level supernovas, which are a rare occurence.

adubroff · 03-31-2007, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by cartman

Well, here are their career NCAA Stats. Pretty close, IMO.

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    MIN    PPG    FG%    3P%    FT%    RPG    APG    TPG    BPG    SPG    
Parks    26.4    12.5    55.1    33.3    75.5    6.7    0.8    1.6    1.8    0.7    
Noah    21.0    10.5    45.9    50.0    58.6    6.3    1.7    1.8    1.7    0.9

That shooting percentage for Noah is incorrect. He's shot 60% or better every year he's been in college, here are his stats:

Year	Name	GP	Min	Pts	FG	FGA	FG%	FTM	FTA	FT%	3P%	Off	Def	TOT	Asts	Stls	Blks	TOs	PFs
04/05	Joakim Noah	29	9.4	3.5	1.2	2.1	60.0	1.0	1.8	57.7		0.8	1.7	2.5	0.5	0.2	0.7	0.6	1.6
05/06	Joakim Noah	39	24.9	14.2	5.2	8.3	62.7	3.8	5.2	73.3	0.0	2.2	4.9	7.1	2.1	1.1	2.4	1.9	2.2
06/07	Joakim Noah	38	25.8	12.2	4.4	7.3	61.2	3.3	4.9	66.7	100.0	2.6	5.9	8.5	2.3	1.1	1.8	2.5	2.2

Chief Rum · 03-31-2007, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBug708

Ha! I'm fine with this loss, UCLA didnt have the stars like Florida.

And call me an ass (IMTG) why dont ya chief

Sheesh, Bug, read it again. I said you have the same passion for your teams that IMTG does (which is a good thing), but you aren't an ass like he is. You've always been cool. You know I know that.

MrBug708 · 03-31-2007, 10:08 PM

I am, just giving you crap

Chief Rum · 03-31-2007, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by cartman

To be fair, he did call you a 'lesser ass' AKA 'assus minor' as opposed to the IMTG level 'assus major'.

Then there are the GE level supernovas, which are a rare occurence.

Bug isn't an ass at all. He's one of the nicer people I have gotten to know online. Sorry if I chose a poor comparison. IMTG really is incomparable to anyone. Well, maybe HornsManiac. Wow, cartman, how do you stay levelheaded surrounded by knuckleheads like that?

Chief Rum · 03-31-2007, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBug708

I am, just giving you crap

Cool. Glad I didn't ruffle any feathers.

cartman · 03-31-2007, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by adubroff

That shooting percentage for Noah is incorrect. He's shot 60% or better every year he's been in college, here are his stats:

My bad. I was looking at the wrong two columns in the spreadsheet I had. I calculated his free throws made vs. his field goals attempted. His FG% should be: 61.8%

But the rest of the stats are correct.

Chief Rum · 03-31-2007, 10:11 PM

Kudos to Florida by the way on the win. The better, more talented team won. Donovan coached them very well, too. Terrific adjustments and using your strengths to dominate.

cartman · 03-31-2007, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Bug isn't an ass at all. He's one of the nicer people I have gotten to know online. Sorry if I chose a poor comparison. IMTG really is incomparable to anyone. Well, maybe HornsManiac. Wow, cartman, how do you stay levelheaded surrounded by knuckleheads like that?

I've accepted that only he and Huckleberry are the only ones that have any knowledge at all about college football.

Chief Rum · 03-31-2007, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by cartman

My bad. I was looking at the wrong two columns in the spreadsheet I had. I calculated his free throws made vs. his field goals attempted. His FG% should be: 61.8%

But the rest of the stats are correct.

That's more impressive. But he always has been a good shooter. But that shows his skill that he can be a face the basket type and put up a percentage like that. That doesn't mean he's better than Christian Laettner or comparable to Marcus Camby, though.

cartman · 03-31-2007, 10:13 PM

And for the record, I don't have any problem at all with Florida as a program or a team. It's just that Noah pisses me off to no end. It's irrational, but it is what it is.

Chief Rum · 03-31-2007, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by cartman

I've accepted that only he and Huckleberry are the only ones that have any knowledge at all about college football.

You should probably get that confirmed from a second, unbiased source then from those two themselves.

Chief Rum · 03-31-2007, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by cartman

And for the record, I don't have any problem at all with Florida as a program or a team. It's just that Noah pisses me off to no end. It's irrational, but it is what it is.

Agreed. Never disliked Florida. In fact, I generally like them best of the three big Florida schools (UCF and Florida International being the others; just kidding Noop). That said, I will be rooting hard for Ohio State on Monday night.

Noop · 03-31-2007, 10:20 PM

Hmm Ohio State versus Florida for the basketball championship... If it is anything like the football championship this shit will be over at half....

cartman · 03-31-2007, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Noop

Hmm Ohio State versus Florida for the basketball championship... If it is anything like the football championship this shit will be over at half....

But not before Oden gets two easy layups and Conley, Jr. hits a 3 to jump out to an early 7-0 lead.

MrBug708 · 03-31-2007, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Yeah, I heard that, and I would love to get Legion, or the other guard Michicgan let go (who is also pretty good, isn't he?). But Jrue seems to have been intrigued by our second straight Final Four and has returned us to the mix (although still behind UNC and UW). The question is if we are willing to give up on Jrue for Legion. Also, we would need to lose someone from this team to bring in Legion. Aflallo could leave or Wright transfer, but we don't know yet if that will happen.

Harris actually cares about defense but he never favored UCLA but ah well. Could have used Legion tonight.

I think with Jrue it might come down to Howland just taking the guy who wants to commit now. He did that with Anderson and Lee. Drew Jr was shocked I think when Howland didnt wait around for him to visit the world before coming to UCLA. He'll probably end up at Carolina

Chief Rum · 03-31-2007, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBug708

Harris actually cares about defense but he never favored UCLA but ah well. Could have used Legion tonight.

I think with Jrue it might come down to Howland just taking the guy who wants to commit now. He did that with Anderson and Lee. Drew Jr was shocked I think when Howland didnt wait around for him to visit the world before coming to UCLA. He'll probably end up at Carolina

Yup, and I like that. I want recruits to know that if they want the privilege of playing for UCLA's basketball team, they're going to have to make their decisions before other players commit.

Any word on how we're doing with Gordon? Are we back into the mix with him? I see us having big problems in the post in a couple years if we lose Love, Mata, Wright (if he's around) and the Prince after next year. Well, guaranteed we lose Mata.

kcchief19 · 03-31-2007, 10:52 PM

Not to sound like Blackwell or anything, but that color scheme they came up with for the floor for the Final Four is the most god-awful thing I've ever seen on a sports field or court. It looks like something a cat spit up and is an offense to viewers with HDTV. Just the reminder you need everyonce in a while that the NCAA generally hires twits and nitwits to run the organization.

MrBug708 · 03-31-2007, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Yup, and I like that. I want recruits to know that if they want the privilege of playing for UCLA's basketball team, they're going to have to make their decisions before other players commit.

Any word on how we're doing with Gordon? Are we back into the mix with him? I see us having big problems in the post in a couple years if we lose Love, Mata, Wright (if he's around) and the Prince after next year. Well, guaranteed we lose Mata.

Last I heard we led, but who knows..lol

Not very helpful

cartman · 03-31-2007, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by kcchief19

Not to sound like Blackwell or anything, but that color scheme they came up with for the floor for the Final Four is the most god-awful thing I've ever seen on a sports field or court. It looks like something a cat spit up and is an offense to viewers with HDTV. Just the reminder you need everyonce in a while that the NCAA generally hires twits and nitwits to run the organization.

Ditto. I'd rather see the BCS Championship game be held in Boise than see that color scheme again.

Chief Rum · 03-31-2007, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by kcchief19

Not to sound like Blackwell or anything, but that color scheme they came up with for the floor for the Final Four is the most god-awful thing I've ever seen on a sports field or court. It looks like something a cat spit up and is an offense to viewers with HDTV. Just the reminder you need everyonce in a while that the NCAA generally hires twits and nitwits to run the organization.

That wasn't cat spit up. That was Noah.

adubroff · 03-31-2007, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

That's more impressive. But he always has been a good shooter. But that shows his skill that he can be a face the basket type and put up a percentage like that. That doesn't mean he's better than Christian Laettner or comparable to Marcus Camby, though.

I think it will be interesting with Noah as a pro. I agree that he will not be the shot blocker that Camby is (he's generally among the league leaders). I would say that physically they are very close. They both are tall/thin and love to throw their bodies on the floor. Noah has, through his college years, shot a much higher percentage but he's also been on a much better team. The one area I'm quite sure Noah already is better than Camby is in ball handling. Noah can dribble/pass at a level that not many bigger guys do.

I've also heard a lot of people say that Noah will be better on a good team than a bad one. I think there's some solid logic to that. There are a lot of people who think that Phoenix will use Atlanta's pick on him if he's there for them. I think he'd be a great fit there, they play uptempo and rely on versatile players. I think he'd be a real solid addition for them.

I think it will also be interesting to see what Noah does with Oden (and how often they are matched). I though Hibbert played Oden pretty well, probably really helped his draft status. I tend to think Donovan will rotate all his big guys on Oden on Monday, so it might not be a true test....

SackAttack · 03-31-2007, 11:20 PM

Say, Chief, Bug...if Howland goes to six straight Final Fours but doesn't win a championship, is he going to get Lavined out?

Chief Rum · 03-31-2007, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by SackAttack

Say, Chief, Bug...if Howland goes to six straight Final Fours but doesn't win a championship, is he going to get Lavined out?

No, he would become Roy Williams and somehow end up at Duke to replace Krzreweski (sc?) and win his first title there.

Seriosuly, I don't think Howland will willingly coach another college team unless he was fired. I could see him leaving for the pros at some point, but that is it. He's as big a UCLA homer as me and Bug.

Keep in mind, he's already gone further than Lavin ever did, twice now.

Chief Rum · 04-01-2007, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by adubroff

I think it will be interesting with Noah as a pro. I agree that he will not be the shot blocker that Camby is (he's generally among the league leaders). I would say that physically they are very close. They both are tall/thin and love to throw their bodies on the floor. Noah has, through his college years, shot a much higher percentage but he's also been on a much better team. The one area I'm quite sure Noah already is better than Camby is in ball handling. Noah can dribble/pass at a level that not many bigger guys do.

I've also heard a lot of people say that Noah will be better on a good team than a bad one. I think there's some solid logic to that. There are a lot of people who think that Phoenix will use Atlanta's pick on him if he's there for them. I think he'd be a great fit there, they play uptempo and rely on versatile players. I think he'd be a real solid addition for them.

I think it will also be interesting to see what Noah does with Oden (and how often they are matched). I though Hibbert played Oden pretty well, probably really helped his draft status. I tend to think Donovan will rotate all his big guys on Oden on Monday, so it might not be a true test....

Mostly I agree with here on all of this. I don't see Noah as quite as long with as good reach, though (which is why he isn't on the same level as a potential shotblocker). And Camby seemed tougher to me in college than Noah does now.

The Suns would be an excellent fit for Noah for all the reasons you said. Plus, he would be joining a team with a freakier looking guy than him (Nash), so he'll blend in better.

Is the Atlanta pick not lottery-protected?

I think Horford will be on Oden more. I also think their backup (Richardsoin?) will see more time on Oden than Noah. For one thing, Noah and Horford will be on the floor at the same time a lot, and Donovan will only assign one of themt o guard Oden (and I think he'll go with Horford). Donovan will want Noah out toward the edges of the key, where he can use his quickness to get to longer rebounds and outlet pass to get the break going.

We'll see, though. It will be an interesting matchup.

MizzouRah · 04-01-2007, 12:18 AM

Has this ever happened? Football and Basketball championships featuring the same teams?

As much as I can't stand Oden and Ohio St., I think they win this one.

adubroff · 04-01-2007, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

The Suns would be an excellent fit for Noah for all the reasons you said. Plus, he would be joining a team with a freakier looking guy than him (Nash), so he'll blend in better.

Is the Atlanta pick not lottery-protected?

Top 3 protected this year, no protection after....It's from the Joe Johnson trade. Phoenix also has a one coming their way from the Cavs(Jiri Welsch). Not bad for a team which is probably top 3 in the league at worst right now. Although, D'Antoni only plays 6-7 guys most nights so who knows if they'll get much from the picks.

Ragone · 04-01-2007, 01:04 AM

Noah looks too much like Sangaya from American Idol... However Oden looks like he went to high school with moses malone

MrBug708 · 04-01-2007, 03:48 AM

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Originally Posted by SackAttack

Say, Chief, Bug...if Howland goes to six straight Final Fours but doesn't win a championship, is he going to get Lavined out?

If Howland would have had Lavin's talent, he would have won at least 2 titles

Leonidas · 04-01-2007, 06:07 AM

Noah will be a role player in the NBA. Actually he reminds me most of Anderson Varejao of the Cavs. They are both built the same, both high energy guys, both have very similar games. Varejao is a nice player off the bench who sometimes lights a spark in his team. I see Noah as the same kind of NBA player, but I don't see him ever as an all-star caliber guy.

As for the matchup tomorrow, reminds me a whole lot of the 91 Duke-UNLV game. On paper both look like a one-sided rematch of a previous blow-out featuring defending champions loaded with NBA caliber talent against young up and coming teams that weren't blowing anyone away but just found ways to win. OSU can win, but it will require Florida to be shooting poorly from outside, Oden to stay out of foul trouble, and Horford to get into foul trouble. If those things happen, OSU can, and probably will win. NC State beating Houston, Duke beating UNLV (I know it was a semi-final) and Villanova beating Georgetown were all longer shots than OSU against UF.

Wolfpack · 04-01-2007, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Leonidas

Noah will be a role player in the NBA. Actually he reminds me most of Anderson Varejao of the Cavs. They are both built the same, both high energy guys, both have very similar games. Varejao is a nice player off the bench who sometimes lights a spark in his team. I see Noah as the same kind of NBA player, but I don't see him ever as an all-star caliber guy.

As for the matchup tomorrow, reminds me a whole lot of the 91 Duke-UNLV game. On paper both look like a one-sided rematch of a previous blow-out featuring defending champions loaded with NBA caliber talent against young up and coming teams that weren't blowing anyone away but just found ways to win. OSU can win, but it will require Florida to be shooting poorly from outside, Oden to stay out of foul trouble, and Horford to get into foul trouble. If those things happen, OSU can, and probably will win. NC State beating Houston, Duke beating UNLV (I know it was a semi-final) and Villanova beating Georgetown were all longer shots than OSU against UF.

I should certainly hope so considering State was a #6 going up against a #1 and Villanova was a #8 against #1 Georgetown. It ain't much of an upset if both teams are #1.

Butter · 04-02-2007, 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by MizzouRah

As much as I can't stand Oden and Ohio St., I think they win this one.

I don't know how you can't stand Oden. Hate Ohio State all you want, but Oden (and Conley for that matter) are about the nicest kids I've ever seen at Ohio State, football or basketball. They both give great, personable interviews, and from all accounts on campus are down to earth guys who aren't pulling any primadonna shit whatsoever. Oden drives some old beat-up pickup truck, and Conley called out Clark Kellogg on national TV for picking against his alma mater Saturday night in a LOL moment for me. I haven't read a single negative thing about either one, and believe me, I've looked.

I hope they stay at OSU another year, but realistically, Oden is likely bound for the NBA and I think Conley is 50/50, despite coming out to the media and saying that he's staying next season already.

MizzouRah · 04-02-2007, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Butter_of_69

I don't know how you can't stand Oden. Hate Ohio State all you want, but Oden (and Conley for that matter) are about the nicest kids I've ever seen at Ohio State, football or basketball. They both give great, personable interviews, and from all accounts on campus are down to earth guys who aren't pulling any primadonna shit whatsoever. Oden drives some old beat-up pickup truck, and Conley called out Clark Kellogg on national TV for picking against his alma mater Saturday night in a LOL moment for me. I haven't read a single negative thing about either one, and believe me, I've looked.

I hope they stay at OSU another year, but realistically, Oden is likely bound for the NBA and I think Conley is 50/50, despite coming out to the media and saying that he's staying next season already.

I'm not referring to how nice he might be. I just hate watching him play basketball.. he reminds me of Shaq.. I'm here because I'm bigger than anyone on the court and I'll push you out of the way. He's just boring to watch, I'd prefer someone like Hibbert or Hansbrough.

Butter · 04-02-2007, 10:34 AM

OK. I'll allow it, this time. But you're on notice, MizzouRah.

Tigercat · 04-02-2007, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by MizzouRah

I'm not referring to how nice he might be. I just hate watching him play basketball.. he reminds me of Shaq.. I'm here because I'm bigger than anyone on the court and I'll push you out of the way. He's just boring to watch, I'd prefer someone like Hibbert or Hansbrough.

There have been plenty of big guys(even strong ones) who didn't know what to do with themselves in the post. Don't fool yourself, guys like Oden and Shaq have serious skills and instincts. If Shaq or Oden were 2-3 inches shorter, they would still be good post players.

MizzouRah · 04-02-2007, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Butter_of_69

OK. I'll allow it, this time. But you're on notice, MizzouRah.

miami_fan · 04-02-2007, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Tigercat

There have been plenty of big guys(even strong ones) who didn't know what to do with themselves in the post. Don't fool yourself, guys like Oden and Shaq have serious skills and instincts. If Shaq or Oden were 2-3 inches shorter, they would still be good post players.

See Al Horford's father Tito

MJ4H · 04-02-2007, 04:34 PM

Press conference in 25 minutes for Arkansas hiring Dana Altman from Creighton.

miami_fan · 04-02-2007, 07:35 PM

And Butler's Todd Lickliter will be named the next head coach at Iowa Monday night and introduced at a Tuesday news conference

Logan · 04-02-2007, 07:45 PM

Stan Heath goes from Arkansas to South Florida. Great hire for a school that desperately needs it.

Easy Mac · 04-02-2007, 08:03 PM

Pretty stupid opening, but it was nice involving some of the little people (cheerleaders and band geeks) in the game. And if we're going by attractiveness of the female cheerleaders, Florida wins in a landslide.

"I'm not terribly impressed by college students spelling a four letter state"

03-31-2007, 09:54 PM	#1204
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	Dola, I'm also very disappointed in you, CR. You are taking this extremely well. I was expecting an epic GE style rant on your part. __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

03-31-2007, 10:08 PM	#1213
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	I am, just giving you crap Last edited by MrBug708 : 03-31-2007 at 10:08 PM.

03-31-2007, 10:13 PM	#1220
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	And for the record, I don't have any problem at all with Florida as a program or a team. It's just that Noah pisses me off to no end. It's irrational, but it is what it is. __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

03-31-2007, 10:20 PM	#1223
Noop Bonafide Seminole Fan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Miami	Hmm Ohio State versus Florida for the basketball championship... If it is anything like the football championship this shit will be over at half.... __________________ Subby's favorite woman hater.

04-01-2007, 06:07 AM	#1239
Leonidas College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: East Anglia	Noah will be a role player in the NBA. Actually he reminds me most of Anderson Varejao of the Cavs. They are both built the same, both high energy guys, both have very similar games. Varejao is a nice player off the bench who sometimes lights a spark in his team. I see Noah as the same kind of NBA player, but I don't see him ever as an all-star caliber guy. As for the matchup tomorrow, reminds me a whole lot of the 91 Duke-UNLV game. On paper both look like a one-sided rematch of a previous blow-out featuring defending champions loaded with NBA caliber talent against young up and coming teams that weren't blowing anyone away but just found ways to win. OSU can win, but it will require Florida to be shooting poorly from outside, Oden to stay out of foul trouble, and Horford to get into foul trouble. If those things happen, OSU can, and probably will win. NC State beating Houston, Duke beating UNLV (I know it was a semi-final) and Villanova beating Georgetown were all longer shots than OSU against UF. __________________ Molon labe Last edited by Leonidas : 04-01-2007 at 06:08 AM.

03-31-2007, 10:02 PM	#1208
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Ha! I'm fine with this loss, UCLA didnt have the stars like Florida. And call me an ass (IMTG) why dont ya chief

03-31-2007, 10:11 PM	#1217
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	Kudos to Florida by the way on the win. The better, more talented team won. Donovan coached them very well, too. Terrific adjustments and using your strengths to dominate.

03-31-2007, 10:52 PM	#1227
kcchief19 Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Kansas City, MO	Not to sound like Blackwell or anything, but that color scheme they came up with for the floor for the Final Four is the most god-awful thing I've ever seen on a sports field or court. It looks like something a cat spit up and is an offense to viewers with HDTV. Just the reminder you need everyonce in a while that the NCAA generally hires twits and nitwits to run the organization.

03-31-2007, 11:20 PM	#1232
SackAttack Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Green Bay, WI	Say, Chief, Bug...if Howland goes to six straight Final Fours but doesn't win a championship, is he going to get Lavined out?

04-01-2007, 12:18 AM	#1235
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Troy, Mo	Has this ever happened? Football and Basketball championships featuring the same teams? As much as I can't stand Oden and Ohio St., I think they win this one.

04-01-2007, 01:04 AM	#1237
Ragone Pro Rookie Join Date: May 2002 Location: Kansas City, Mo	Noah looks too much like Sangaya from American Idol... However Oden looks like he went to high school with moses malone

04-02-2007, 10:34 AM	#1243
Butter Coordinator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Dayton, OH	OK. I'll allow it, this time. But you're on notice, MizzouRah. __________________ My listening habits

04-02-2007, 04:34 PM	#1247
MJ4H Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hog Country	Press conference in 25 minutes for Arkansas hiring Dana Altman from Creighton. __________________ My YouTube channel My Twitch channel My Sharona

04-02-2007, 07:35 PM	#1248
miami_fan Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Land O Lakes FL	And Butler's Todd Lickliter will be named the next head coach at Iowa Monday night and introduced at a Tuesday news conference __________________ "The blind soldier fought for me in this war. The least I can do now is fight for him. I have eyes. He hasn’t. I have a voice on the radio, he hasn’t. I was born a white man. And until a colored man is a full citizen, like me, I haven’t the leisure to enjoy the freedom that colored man risked his life to maintain for me. I don’t own what I have until he owns an equal share of it. Until somebody beats me and blinds me, I am in his debt."- Orson Welles August 11, 1946

04-02-2007, 07:45 PM	#1249
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	Stan Heath goes from Arkansas to South Florida. Great hire for a school that desperately needs it.

04-02-2007, 08:03 PM	#1250
Easy Mac Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Here	Pretty stupid opening, but it was nice involving some of the little people (cheerleaders and band geeks) in the game. And if we're going by attractiveness of the female cheerleaders, Florida wins in a landslide. "I'm not terribly impressed by college students spelling a four letter state"

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