The 2010 Winter Olympics in Vancouver/Whistler - Page 25

Oilers9911 · 02-28-2010, 09:20 AM

I'm on XBox Live if anyone wants a morning game of Curling 2010. I'm ScottCanada1970 on there.

RainMaker · 02-28-2010, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors

So, correct me if I'm wrong, but you're saying that the U.S. would dominate because it's the U.S.

And if that's what you mean, even though world-class sides like Brazil, Spain, Argentina, Italy, and the Netherlands - countries that have long-standing soccer histories - fail to absolutely dominate almost every international competition, the U.S. would be able to do it because it's the U.S.

Again, please correct me if I'm wrong, but you're not just saying we'd be as good as Brazil or Spain, etc.... you're saying that we'd be far better than them.

That sounds reasonable?

It's not a "we're better than them" thing. It's just a numbers game. We have massive population advantages over almost all countries. We have financial resources that they can't come close to. A strong passion for sport. And demographics that are highly advantageous for producing athletes.

The U.S. is currently respectable on an international scale while having very few of its top athletes participate in the sport, receive elite training, and/or play against top competition growing up.

RainMaker · 02-28-2010, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

Indeed. The first thing that came to mind when Pumpy originally questioned the statement was... "like baseball"? You'd think that the US would do far better at those World Baseball Classics, even though American football has surplanted the sport as #1 simply because of the "resource advantages".

Baseball isn't our most popular sport and is not close to getting the top athletes in the country. It's everything to many of the Caribbean nations due to the economic conditions of the country as well as the rules of Major League Baseball.

I'd also argue that baseball is a much different game. I think upsets in a tournament setting. Soccer is much more of a team game and one or two players can't win a tournament on their own. I'd compare it to football in that respect.

Dr. Sak · 02-28-2010, 11:30 AM

Can't wait for the gold medal game today. Here are my 3 wishes for the game:

1) I hope the game either ends in regulation or OT, PLEASE NO SHOOTOUT!

2) I hope the game is injury free.

3) Finally I hope we get the same ending as last Sunday!

Go USA!

Oilers9911 · 02-28-2010, 11:49 AM

Agree on #1 and #2, #3....not so much.

Go Canada!

jbergey22 · 02-28-2010, 11:58 AM

Sportsbooks still arent giving the USA much love

Canada is -1(-110) t/5.5

They must be expecting Canada to win by 2 or more or that line is just strange.

Why would you set a line like that when the odds are so good it will push and they will have to return all of the money?

Honolulu_Blue · 02-28-2010, 12:04 PM

I think Canada is still the favorite here, despite what happened on Sunday. I don't think they're quite the favorite they were a week ago, but are still the better team overall. That said, the US team has played great all tournament.

I'm really hoping this will be a great game. I am pulling for the US, but if Canada wins I will be fine with that and happy for Yzerman and Babcock. When it comes to hockey, my loyalties run local first and national second.

Big Fo · 02-28-2010, 12:10 PM

Ha, I never knew the cross-country skiers made pit stops to get new skis.

Pumpy Tudors · 02-28-2010, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker

It's not a "we're better than them" thing. It's just a numbers game. We have massive population advantages over almost all countries. We have financial resources that they can't come close to. A strong passion for sport. And demographics that are highly advantageous for producing athletes.

The U.S. is currently respectable on an international scale while having very few of its top athletes participate in the sport, receive elite training, and/or play against top competition growing up.

I guess I'm just not going to get it. I am totally on board with the idea of the US becoming one of the powers. I am totally on board with the idea of the US improving because we'd have a lot of great athletes playing the game. At the end of the day, though, suggesting that the US would absolutely be the best and far better than everyone else in the world comes across as insulting to all the current soccer powers. I know you don't mean it that way, and you've clearly put some thought into what you're saying, but I just can't envision that the ceiling for the US is that much higher than it is for all these countries out there that basically breed soccer players.

Perhaps I'm just stubborn, but I can tell that I just won't get it.

DeToxRox · 02-28-2010, 12:11 PM

Canada 4
USA 1

Miller has to play better then he did last week and that'll be hard to do. USA has to keep pressure on the Canadians D while minimizing turnovers. That is going to be an issue.

Pumpy Tudors · 02-28-2010, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DeToxRox

Canada 4
USA 1

Miller has to play better then he did last week and that'll be hard to do. USA has to keep pressure on the Canadians D while minimizing turnovers. That is going to be an issue.

OH MY GOD HOW CAN YOU SAY THAT
YOU MUST HATE AMERICA

DeToxRox · 02-28-2010, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors

I guess I'm just not going to get it. I am totally on board with the idea of the US becoming one of the powers. I am totally on board with the idea of the US improving because we'd have a lot of great athletes playing the game. At the end of the day, though, suggesting that the US would absolutely be the best and far better than everyone else in the world comes across as insulting to all the current soccer powers. I know you don't mean it that way, and you've clearly put some thought into what you're saying, but I just can't envision that the ceiling for the US is that much higher than it is for all these countries out there that basically breed soccer players.

Perhaps I'm just stubborn, but I can tell that I just won't get it.

No one gives a shit about soccer here on a mainstream level. All the best US players go play overseas for a reason because it's where they make all the money.

Who the fuck wants to play soccer in America and make 20 grand in a year?

DeToxRox · 02-28-2010, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors

OH MY GOD HOW CAN YOU SAY THAT
YOU MUST HATE AMERICA

I'm more of a Team Mexico kinda guy:

Logan · 02-28-2010, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Fo

Ha, I never knew the cross-country skiers made pit stops to get new skis.

This event is fascinating to me for some reason. Can someone who knows better explain the strategy of one country sending a guy up ahead to set a pace and tire out others? Why wouldn't you just not care and hang back?

whomario · 02-28-2010, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Logan

This event is fascinating to me for some reason. Can someone who knows better explain the strategy of one country sending a guy up ahead to set a pace and tire out others? Why wouldn't you just not care and hang back?

because at some point you won´t catch him anymore or another guy from that country could attack and the guy up fron then pull him for a few Ks.
Kind of like in bike races (Tour de France et all)

I liked it better when everyone went 50K alone against the clock anyway ...

Big Fo · 02-28-2010, 01:37 PM

Amazing burst by Northug at the end to win it after 50km of skiing.

Fidatelo · 02-28-2010, 01:44 PM

30 minutes until the biggest hockey game I can remember! Go Canada Go!

Pumpy Tudors · 02-28-2010, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Fidatelo

30 minutes until the biggest hockey game I can remember! Go Canada Go!

You don't remember Game 7 of the 2003 Stanley Cup Finals?

Lathum · 02-28-2010, 02:03 PM

This is awesome. We are at a sports bar in Seattle and it is packed. 50/50 USA and Canada fans. It's getting rowdy already.

EagleFan · 02-28-2010, 02:17 PM

USA!!! USA!!! USA!!!

whomario · 02-28-2010, 02:18 PM

Why in the world don´t they have neutral referees ? I´m dumbstruck right now, that makes FIFA Boss Blatter look smart

You don´t have neutral referees in a olympic final ???

EagleFan · 02-28-2010, 02:18 PM

dola: if this game is anything like their last, how boring is the next NHL game going to seem?

bbor · 02-28-2010, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by whomario

Why in the world don´t they have neutral referees ? I´m dumbstruck right now, that makes FIFA Boss Blatter look smart

You don´t have neutral referees in a olympic final ???

Not many (if any) international refs can keep up with the pace of play.

Generally NHL players would rather have NHL refs rather than international ones regardless of nationality.

EagleFan · 02-28-2010, 02:29 PM

Fans taunting Miller now? Good olympic spirit douchebags...

EagleFan · 02-28-2010, 02:30 PM

dola: Even funnier as their taunting a guy that hasn't allowed a goal in a week.

bbor · 02-28-2010, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by EagleFan

Fans taunting Miller now? Good olympic spirit douchebags...

I agree...American would never stoop so low

EagleFan · 02-28-2010, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by bbor

I agree...American would never stoop so low

Find me an example of olympic taunting in the US and then we'll speak. Until then take that crap elsewhere.

Pumpy Tudors · 02-28-2010, 02:33 PM

The USA looks pretty impressive with their speed and intensity, but they're not getting a lot of good shots on Luongo so far. Canada keeps blocking shots, and exactly how many USA shots have missed the net entirely? This isn't encouraging.

Karlifornia · 02-28-2010, 02:35 PM

Ooooh...that was close

Karlifornia · 02-28-2010, 02:36 PM

LOL...I try to pride myself on not sounding like a misogynist, but jesus christ it's almost hard to keep up with the speed and skill of the play after watching the slo-mo women's gold medal game.

bbor · 02-28-2010, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by EagleFan

Find me an example of olympic taunting in the US and then we'll speak. Until then take that crap elsewhere.

Do you want a specific,time,date,year and name also?

Karlifornia · 02-28-2010, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by EagleFan

Find me an example of olympic taunting in the US and then we'll speak. Until then take that crap elsewhere.

Now is not the time to be sensitive!

EagleFan · 02-28-2010, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by bbor

Do you want a specific,time,date,year and name also?

If you find it, I'll be just as tough on that. It's the freaking olympics and that crap has no place there.

jbergey22 · 02-28-2010, 02:39 PM

Miller is sharp this is good.

sovereignstar · 02-28-2010, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Karlifornia

LOL...I try to pride myself on not sounding like a misogynist, but jesus christ it's almost hard to keep up with the speed and skill of the play after watching the slo-mo women's gold medal game.

I watch waaaay more college hockey than pro hockey and I can barely keep up with the professionals.

Pumpy Tudors · 02-28-2010, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Karlifornia

Now is not the time to be sensitive!

jbergey22 · 02-28-2010, 02:40 PM

Too many mistakes come on USA

Eaglesfan27 · 02-28-2010, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

Too many mistakes come on USA

You said it. Terrible mistake there.

EagleFan · 02-28-2010, 02:42 PM

Big moment here, see how they react to trailing in a game.

bbor · 02-28-2010, 02:42 PM

Man had Parise become a player or what.If i'm starting a team right now i may start with this guy,he does EVERTHING.

Too bad he's stuck in Jersey<------For Pumpy

jbergey22 · 02-28-2010, 02:42 PM

Canada just hooked the left wing there. Perhaps the refs arent
going to call any penalties on Canada.

bbor · 02-28-2010, 02:43 PM

That was a pretty brutal slew foot.

Pumpy Tudors · 02-28-2010, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by bbor

Man had Parise become a player or what.If i'm starting a team right now i may start with this guy,he does EVERTHING.

Too bad he's stuck in Jersey<------For Pumpy

If I weren't already married, I would marry Zach Parise. Can't wait for the playoffs. My man is going to do it all there.

Lathum · 02-28-2010, 02:43 PM

Shitty call there. Looked like they were tangled up

Karlifornia · 02-28-2010, 02:43 PM

Huge penalty kill here. Fall behind 2-0 and...well...what's wrong with silver, anyways?

EagleFan · 02-28-2010, 02:45 PM

Nice stop by Miller and a good kill there.

whomario · 02-28-2010, 02:46 PM

over /under on calls getting 5+ "shitty call" comments , 15 ?

jbergey22 · 02-28-2010, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by whomario

over /under on calls getting 5+ "shitty call" comments , 15 ?

Ill take over in both

Pumpy Tudors · 02-28-2010, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by whomario

over /under on calls getting 5+ "shitty call" comments , 15 ?

I'd take the over on pretty much any NHL playoff game, too... assuming there were more than 5 people watching NHL playoff games.

Ryan S · 02-28-2010, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by whomario

Why in the world don´t they have neutral referees ? I´m dumbstruck right now, that makes FIFA Boss Blatter look smart

You don´t have neutral referees in a olympic final ???

Both teams will be happier with NHL officials rather than officials from lesser leagues in Europe.

I am not sure why they did not go for 1 ref and one linesman from both the US and Canada like they did in the group game.

02-28-2010, 12:04 PM	#1207
Honolulu_Blue Hockey Boy Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Royal Oak, MI	I think Canada is still the favorite here, despite what happened on Sunday. I don't think they're quite the favorite they were a week ago, but are still the better team overall. That said, the US team has played great all tournament. I'm really hoping this will be a great game. I am pulling for the US, but if Canada wins I will be fine with that and happy for Yzerman and Babcock. When it comes to hockey, my loyalties run local first and national second. __________________ *Steve Yzerman*: 1,755 points in 1,514 regular season games. 185 points in 196 postseason games. A First-Team All-Star, Conn Smythe Trophy winner, Selke Trophy winner, Masterton Trophy winner, member of the Hockey Hall of Fame, Olympic gold medallist, and a three-time Stanley Cup Champion. Longest serving captain of one team in the history of the NHL (19 seasons).

02-28-2010, 12:10 PM	#1208
Big Fo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2005	Ha, I never knew the cross-country skiers made pit stops to get new skis. Last edited by Big Fo : 02-28-2010 at 12:10 PM.

02-28-2010, 01:44 PM	#1217
Fidatelo Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Winnipeg, MB	30 minutes until the biggest hockey game I can remember! Go Canada Go! __________________ "Breakfast? Breakfast schmekfast, look at the score for God's sake. It's only the second period and I'm winning 12-2. Breakfasts come and go, Rene, but Hartford, the Whale, they only beat Vancouver maybe once or twice in a lifetime."

02-28-2010, 02:33 PM	#1228
Pumpy Tudors Bounty Hunter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	The USA looks pretty impressive with their speed and intensity, but they're not getting a lot of good shots on Luongo so far. Canada keeps blocking shots, and exactly how many USA shots have missed the net entirely? This isn't encouraging. __________________ No, I am not Batman, and I will not repair your food processor.

02-28-2010, 02:35 PM	#1229
Karlifornia Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: San Jose, CA	Ooooh...that was close __________________ Look into the mind of a crazy man (NSFW) http://www.whitepowerupdate.wordpress.com

02-28-2010, 09:20 AM	#1201
Oilers9911 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2006	I'm on XBox Live if anyone wants a morning game of Curling 2010. I'm ScottCanada1970 on there.

02-28-2010, 11:30 AM	#1204
Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	Can't wait for the gold medal game today. Here are my 3 wishes for the game: 1) I hope the game either ends in regulation or OT, PLEASE NO SHOOTOUT! 2) I hope the game is injury free. 3) Finally I hope we get the same ending as last Sunday! Go USA!

02-28-2010, 11:49 AM	#1205
Oilers9911 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2006	Agree on #1 and #2, #3....not so much. Go Canada!

02-28-2010, 11:58 AM	#1206
jbergey22 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Minnesota	Sportsbooks still arent giving the USA much love Canada is -1(-110) t/5.5 They must be expecting Canada to win by 2 or more or that line is just strange. Why would you set a line like that when the odds are so good it will push and they will have to return all of the money?

02-28-2010, 12:11 PM	#1210
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	Canada 4 USA 1 Miller has to play better then he did last week and that'll be hard to do. USA has to keep pressure on the Canadians D while minimizing turnovers. That is going to be an issue.

02-28-2010, 01:37 PM	#1216
Big Fo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2005	Amazing burst by Northug at the end to win it after 50km of skiing.

02-28-2010, 02:03 PM	#1219
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	This is awesome. We are at a sports bar in Seattle and it is packed. 50/50 USA and Canada fans. It's getting rowdy already.

02-28-2010, 02:17 PM	#1220
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	USA!!! USA!!! USA!!!

02-28-2010, 02:18 PM	#1221
whomario Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2007	Why in the world don´t they have neutral referees ? I´m dumbstruck right now, that makes FIFA Boss Blatter look smart You don´t have neutral referees in a olympic final ???

02-28-2010, 02:18 PM	#1222
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	dola: if this game is anything like their last, how boring is the next NHL game going to seem?

02-28-2010, 02:29 PM	#1224
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	Fans taunting Miller now? Good olympic spirit douchebags...

02-28-2010, 02:30 PM	#1225
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	dola: Even funnier as their taunting a guy that hasn't allowed a goal in a week.

02-28-2010, 02:36 PM	#1230
Karlifornia Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: San Jose, CA	LOL...I try to pride myself on not sounding like a misogynist, but jesus christ it's almost hard to keep up with the speed and skill of the play after watching the slo-mo women's gold medal game. __________________ Look into the mind of a crazy man (NSFW) http://www.whitepowerupdate.wordpress.com

02-28-2010, 02:39 PM	#1234
jbergey22 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Minnesota	Miller is sharp this is good.

02-28-2010, 02:40 PM	#1237
jbergey22 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Minnesota	Too many mistakes come on USA

02-28-2010, 02:42 PM	#1239
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	Big moment here, see how they react to trailing in a game.

02-28-2010, 02:42 PM	#1240
bbor Pro Starter Join Date: May 2001 Location: toronto	Man had Parise become a player or what.If i'm starting a team right now i may start with this guy,he does EVERTHING. Too bad he's stuck in Jersey<------For Pumpy __________________ Pumpy Tudors Now that I've cracked and made that admission, I wonder if I'm only a couple of steps away from wanting to tongue-kiss Jaromir Jagr and give Bobby Clarke a blowjob.

02-28-2010, 02:42 PM	#1241
jbergey22 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Minnesota	Canada just hooked the left wing there. Perhaps the refs arent going to call any penalties on Canada. Last edited by jbergey22 : 02-28-2010 at 02:43 PM.

02-28-2010, 02:43 PM	#1242
bbor Pro Starter Join Date: May 2001 Location: toronto	That was a pretty brutal slew foot. __________________ Pumpy Tudors Now that I've cracked and made that admission, I wonder if I'm only a couple of steps away from wanting to tongue-kiss Jaromir Jagr and give Bobby Clarke a blowjob.

02-28-2010, 02:43 PM	#1244
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Shitty call there. Looked like they were tangled up

02-28-2010, 02:43 PM	#1245
Karlifornia Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: San Jose, CA	Huge penalty kill here. Fall behind 2-0 and...well...what's wrong with silver, anyways? __________________ Look into the mind of a crazy man (NSFW) http://www.whitepowerupdate.wordpress.com

02-28-2010, 02:45 PM	#1246
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	Nice stop by Miller and a good kill there.

02-28-2010, 02:46 PM	#1247
whomario Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2007	over /under on calls getting 5+ "shitty call" comments , 15 ?

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