Werewolf CXXVII -- The Godfather, VILLAGERS WIN

[JAG]

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

The other thing is day 2. I was swapping between killing Lathum and killing Autumn several times. Good thing I went with my first choice or this game would have gone the complete opposite direction. (Would have been a 4 villager kill day, pending that Autumn is a villager)

While that would've been a disaster, a four person dead day would've been epic. I wondered if we might see that this game, but we only topped out at three.

[CrimsonFox]

Also, day 2 I had NO friends. Day 1 I protected Danny (50/50 tossup between Chief and Danny who always get picked day 1 and I picked wrong).

And with the big argument with tyke and everyone bearing down on me I definitely made the decision to kill someone, especially since day 2 I no longer trusted Danny because he was so silent.

[Autumn]

I can't fault that move, given how it worked out, CF, though I can't say I myself saw a shred of hint around him. He certainly seemed less involved, but that's been the case generally with him lately, and was the case for a lot of people here.

I can say, when I started playing WW, Lathum was *always* a wolf. And in my experience he's just as involved as a wolf. The fact that you also had me fingered, I think suggests you maybe got lucky. Because in my experience, you always think anyone voting you is a wolf. I think lots of people were calling you on being defensive, and i just happened to be the most active in the thread at the time.

Anyway, I can't say I would ever suggest a villager make a move like that. Lucky breaks like this is why they continue to do so, but it usually doesn't work. I could pick a dozen players who weren't playing their normal game at that stage.

[Zinto]

I am thinking the rabbit I pulled out of my hat with Jeff on day 2 was pretty good. Luckily he fell into my voted for Mau on day one category and was my lucky number on the sign up sheet

[Autumn]

And I do feel bad for Lathum, who gets more than his fair share of early deaths, wolf or villager. I would love to run a masked identity WW game to give guys like him a break from being singled out.

[Zinto]

Originally Posted by Autumn

I can't fault that move, given how it worked out, CF, though I can't say I myself saw a shred of hint around him. He certainly seemed less involved, but that's been the case generally with him lately, and was the case for a lot of people here.

I can say, when I started playing WW, Lathum was *always* a wolf. And in my experience he's just as involved as a wolf. The fact that you also had me fingered, I think suggests you maybe got lucky. Because in my experience, you always think anyone voting you is a wolf. I think lots of people were calling you on being defensive, and i just happened to be the most active in the thread at the time.

Anyway, I can't say I would ever suggest a villager make a move like that. Lucky breaks like this is why they continue to do so, but it usually doesn't work. I could pick a dozen players who weren't playing their normal game at that stage.

I was doing the same thing with Bhlloy today. He is the only person who kept bringing up my name in his least trusted villagers and so I thought he must be a wolf. Especially since someone blocked me from night actions after night one.

[JAG]

Originally Posted by Zinto

I am thinking the rabbit I pulled out of my hat with Jeff on day 2 was pretty good. Luckily he fell into my voted for Mau on day one category and was my lucky number on the sign up sheet

Good point, that was a good choice as he was the only wolf on Mau.

[CrimsonFox]

Yeah Autumn I realized that thinking you were guilty had a lot to do with you implicating me and you're right. Once I threw that away I went back to what I thought the truth was. But that is why you stayed on my radar. But your analysis seemed to implicate people on my trust list. And yeah I was not considering the reason "these people might not be able to get online all day" as I never do. Then again, I suppose that's what I was arguing the most for myself too so maybe I"m just a hypocrit.


WHat rabbit zinto?

[CrimsonFox]

LIkewise I feel bad for him and Danny and Chief who don't seem to get to play. Only recently have I noticed people have stopped voting out hoopsguy earlier. I think with more new people lately, they will stop voting them early. But the old-timer wolves keep NKing them.

[mckerney]

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

Yeah Autumn I realized that thinking you were guilty had a lot to do with you implicating me and you're right.

I was pretty sure everyone voting for me was a wolf, even when I knew Narcizo wasn't.

[Zinto]

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

WHat rabbit zinto?

Just that I picked Jeff out of the people who voted Mau day one which is probably my only real skill at this game right now getting lucky. I am struggling to be able to get reads on how people talk in their posts but I am hoping it gets easier.

[Autumn]

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

LIkewise I feel bad for him and Danny and Chief who don't seem to get to play. Only recently have I noticed people have stopped voting out hoopsguy earlier. I think with more new people lately, they will stop voting them early. But the old-timer wolves keep NKing them.

Yeah, I think our lynches have gotten more balanced. But yes, you're right, the villagers the wolves are afraid of generally remain the same.

[CrimsonFox]

Yeah That was good. I had nothing to do with the Jeff implication or the DV lynch. I was glad I voted Jeff and passed the gun to JAG. YOu guys getting DV was really lucky too I think.

[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by JAG

While that would've been a disaster, a four person dead day would've been epic. I wondered if we might see that this game, but we only topped out at three.

Indeed! Epic. I really expected a total bloodbath of villagers with so many villager rules that could kill or vote for other villagers.

[Autumn]

FWIW, Crimson, I had a pretty good sense that you had an important villager role, based largely on your reaction the day you got votes, and after that. Just so you know for future games, you might want to tone that down ;-) But act like that when you're a wolf please.

[CrimsonFox]

Hehehe.

[CrimsonFox]

I told Pass before the games started that whenever I've been BG I get lynched early and thought it was unlucky for me. That added to my arguing tooth and nail about it. But it was more for arguing that I missed the early deadline. Yeah as a wolf I have tried to just stay away from the keyboard so I don't type in anything like that. So much so that Danny commented a couple of games ago that I'm not very active. I'm very active, I've just been a wolf a lot lately. Incidently this is also why I no longer play poker.

[Autumn]

Yeah, I know if we were holding a WW poker game, who I would want to play and who I would not. lol

[CrimsonFox]

And Sal was the only one that picked up on me active very typical as myself which was a good read by him. I feel bad for not fighting for him more day 2, but I"m not sure anyone would have listened though.

[CrimsonFox]

acting, not active

[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by Autumn

I would love to run a masked identity WW game to give guys like him a break from being singled out.

Masked identity game whoa. How would you do that? It couldn't be in the forum. It would have to be all PM or at another site with all generic names.

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

Masked identity game whoa. How would you do that? It couldn't be in the forum. It would have to be all PM or at another site with all generic names.

Hoops ran a marvel game where we all created new forum accounts, but I doubt the mods want us to do too many/any more of those.

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by Zinto

I am thinking the rabbit I pulled out of my hat with Jeff on day 2 was pretty good. Luckily he fell into my voted for Mau on day one category and was my lucky number on the sign up sheet

I thought I pulled that one out pretty well. He was on my list after all...

[EagleFan]

Good game village. I apologize for not having time to play and when I did have time I really didn't have the desire to. I should have just passed on thie one (was hoping to just be a vanilla villager but by the time I saw it was an everyone has a role game the game had started).

[EagleFan]

I'll make a deal with you. I just want to outlast bhlloy. Lynch him tomorrow and you get get me the day after. We have a bet going on which of us the village will lynch last.

Plus, how epic would it be to play in the game where you got to toy with the remaining wolf for a couple days before lynching him? That could be a story for the ages.

[EagleFan]

oh sure, I finally get a chance to post and nobody wants to talk...

[EagleFan]

What would it take to get you to allow me to survive one more lynch?

It'll give the next game time to prepare.

[JAG]

I was going to suggest we could just have Luca off you, but you're the one wolf he can't take down.

[CrimsonFox]

IN fact he would kill me if I tried it. That's the main thing that convinced me not to try to kill again. After Lathum, the captain, and Carlo went down, it was a 50-50 chance that even if I picked a wolf, that I would die. WHen we had ZERO wolves and no leads, that was a chance I was totally willing to take because it would have at least told us possibly who Captain and Vito were if I went down.

[EagleFan]

What is there is one more of us. Why not try to find that one first (bhlloy)?

What's the worst that could happen. You would havea werewolf story to tell for years. "Remember that game we f***ed with EF and left him around just so he thought he had a chance. We even went as far as lynching the 'seer' first."

That could be an epic tale to tell, truly epic.

[EagleFan]

That gives me a better idea, how about CF uses that power to kill bhlloy tonight?

Stories they would tell for years. The legend of The Godfather game.

[CrimsonFox]

LOL! Okay I'll do that.

[MartinD]

Go figure - the one day that I know I'm not going to be around, and you guys lynch me. How does it feel to take out a poor, defenceless wolf?

[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by MartinD

Go figure - the one day that I know I'm not going to be around, and you guys lynch me. How does it feel to take out a poor, defenceless wolf?

I don't know, I'm feeling pretty good about it.

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

LOL! Okay I'll do that.

Think about it... A year from now...

"Remember that game when our bodyguard killed out seer..."

wouldn't that be better then...

"Did we even play a game a year ago?"

[CrimsonFox]

Well the game a year ago was the Red Death Game and I was the bodyguard....and got lynched.

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

Well the game a year ago was the Red Death Game and I was the bodyguard....and got lynched.

But who else remembers that?

Do this and everyone will remember.

[EagleFan]

Which Survivor or Amazing Race episodes are better? The ones that go exactly as you knew they would or the ones with fun twists?

[CrimsonFox]

EF, you're awesome.

[EagleFan]

Going to be offline for a while. I'll jump back online later tonight in case anyone wants to talk strategy for the lynch tomorrow or maybe some vote analysis.

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

EF, you're awesome.

That means that you know it would be a fun move.

[JAG]

So what PM restrictions did you have EF?

[CrimsonFox]

Better yet EF, I can try to off you and get myself killed.

[JAG]

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

EF, you're awesome.

I agree, we dodged a bullet with the late switch to Martin.

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

Better yet EF, I can try to off you and get myself killed.

But that would just look suicidal.

[CrimsonFox]

Suicide isn't fun? No, I guess not.

[CrimsonFox]

It IS painless, though.

[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by JAG

While that would've been a disaster, a four person dead day would've been epic. I wondered if we might see that this game, but we only topped out at three.

Hmmm if I killed Autumn and he took Zinto with him and the horsehead passed to you, JAG, and we lynched tyke and the gun and canoli went off on the wrong person like Narcizo and they nightkilled Jackal, that's 6 villagers could have died in one post. Is that the max?

[JAG]

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

Hmmm if I killed Autumn and he took Zinto with him and the horsehead passed to you, JAG, and we lynched tyke and the gun and canoli went off on the wrong person like Narcizo and they nightkilled Jackal, that's 6 villagers could have died in one post. Is that the max?

I think we can do better. Connie could have been scanned by her husband, you could kill a random villager, and they could NK Autumn and then the other stuff you mentioned.

[CrimsonFox]

8! Ah,Ah,Ah,! 8 dead villagers! Game over by Tuesday!