2017 College Football Season thread

[CU Tiger]

Hats off and willing to say Wisconsin surprised me yesterday. I actually expected an IU victory.

[tarcone]

Dont worry. Iowa is going to knock the B1G out of the playoffs later.

[CrescentMoonie]

Originally Posted by CU Tiger

Hats off and willing to say Wisconsin surprised me yesterday. I actually expected an IU victory.

Starting QB would have been a help for them and it was close into the 3rd quarter.

The Itty Bitty Ten is still wildly unimpressive.

[dawgfan]

Just a quick note that Dante Pettis is now the all-time leader in punt returns for touchdowns:

http://pac-12.com/videos/highlight-w...urns-touchdown

[lungs]

Originally Posted by CU Tiger

Hats off and willing to say Wisconsin surprised me yesterday. I actually expected an IU victory.

What on earth did people see in Indiana to think they could beat Wisconsin?

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by lungs

What on earth did people see in Indiana to think they could beat Wisconsin?

I think that might be more about what people didn't see in Wisconsin tbh.

[lungs]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

I think that might be more about what people didn't see in Wisconsin tbh.

But Indiana? I can see it with Iowa or Northwestern or somebody like that. But not Indiana.

[CrescentMoonie]

Originally Posted by lungs

What on earth did people see in Indiana to think they could beat Wisconsin?

It was a 7 point game until 10:15 left in the 4th quarter with Indiana using their backup QB.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by lungs

But Indiana? I can see it with Iowa or Northwestern or somebody like that. But not Indiana.

I dunno, it's not that crazy a notion if you see them losing to Michigan by 7 and Michigan State by 8. Throw in Maryland loss and their last three had been by a combined 18 points.

I'd have been less shocked by IU over Wisconsin than, say, Coastal over Arkansas. I mean, it's not Minnesota over Michigan crazy or something.

[lungs]

Originally Posted by CrescentMoonie

It was a 7 point game until 10:15 left in the 4th quarter with Indiana using their backup QB.

That's right, I was just shaking in my boots at that point thinking Indiana was going to pull it off.

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Throw in Maryland loss

I'd think a loss to Maryland would help my argument that Indiana had no shot.

[tarcone]

Shocking? How about Iowa hanging 55 on tOSU? That, my friends, was shocking.

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by jbergey22

How can Oklahoma have such a great offense and such an awful defense? I dont know what to make of that team. Are they going to have to try to score 60 on Alabama to beat them if they make the playoffs?

I just wish they would show some sign of having even an average defense and reward that spectacular offense with a playoff spot.

Look at what Oklahoma's defense did against non Big-12 teams. When 4 of the nation's top 10 offenses by S&P are in your conference you're going to look bad sometimes.

I'm not saying Oklahoma has a good defense, but it's almost impossible to have a defense that looks good in the Big 12.

[mauchow]

Wow, The line on Wisconsin/Iowa game a full touchdown too high.

-13.5 for Wisconsin. I know it's at home but it screams a 7 pt spread given the history.

[CU Tiger]

Originally Posted by Atocep

Look at what Oklahoma's defense did against non Big-12 teams. When 4 of the nation's top 10 offenses by S&P are in your conference you're going to look bad sometimes.

I'm not saying Oklahoma has a good defense, but it's almost impossible to have a defense that looks good in the Big 12.

Chicken or Egg?

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by Atocep

it's almost impossible to have a defense that looks good in the Big 12.

Might be nice -- and better for the conference as a whole -- if a few more teams in the B12 appeared to at least try to have one more often.

At this point there's kind of a "Rockies discount" on any offense that goes up in the conference, you have to try to figure out what the production would be under normal circumstances

[tarcone]

Originally Posted by mauchow

Wow, The line on Wisconsin/Iowa game a full touchdown too high.

-13.5 for Wisconsin. I know it's at home but it screams a 7 pt spread given the history.

I hope FKF lets BF call the game again. Wiscy may be in trouble if that happens.

[jbergey22]

Originally Posted by Atocep

Look at what Oklahoma's defense did against non Big-12 teams. When 4 of the nation's top 10 offenses by S&P are in your conference you're going to look bad sometimes.

I'm not saying Oklahoma has a good defense, but it's almost impossible to have a defense that looks good in the Big 12.

Using that same metric they are 115 out of 130 in defensive S&P. No excuse for that when they recruit top 25 classes yearly.

[CU Tiger]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Might be nice -- and better for the conference as a whole -- if a few more teams in the B12 appeared to at least try to have one more often.

At this point there's kind of a "Rockies discount" on any offense that goes up in the conference, you have to try to figure out what the production would be under normal circumstances

ITs the anti SEC argument.. for years we've heard how good SEC defenses are.... but is it good defense or bad offense.

[tarcone]

In case you missed it this weekend.

Iowa's fake FG. Remember this is Iowa.

[ISiddiqui]

That didn't look like a fake FG... nice play though.

[tarcone]

True. It is our punter out there.

Then our sophomore QB fires a bullet with a future pro DE wrapped around his ankle. What a game by Iowa.

[lungs]

Originally Posted by tarcone

True. It is our punter out there.

Then our sophomore QB fires a bullet with a future pro DE wrapped around his ankle. What a game by Iowa.

tacrone, check this article out

Nate Stanley wanted to go to Wisconsin but Gary Andersen didn't want him. When Andersen quit, sounds like Chryst tried to reel him in but he ended up staying firm with Iowa.

Hornibrook or Stanley? I'd take Stanley as my QB right now.

[tarcone]

Thanks for the article.

Here is Chryst previewing Iowa

https://247sports.com/college/wiscon...Iowa-110046377

[tarcone]

Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

That didn't look like a fake FG... nice play though.

Just read that Iowa shifted out of the FG look but ESPN missed it.

[tarcone]

Here is a fun article. Not just because they ranked Iowa #1.

College football rankings: Only 11 teams really need to be ranked after Week 10 - SBNation.com

[HerRealName]

On that play fake, the right tackle/guard has to be lined up in the backfield to make the long snapper eligible. My middle school level football reffing experience tells me that's a blown call since he is within a half yard or so. Cool play design but the guard/tackle/tight end got lucky. The game was already over at that point so hopefully this won't be seen as sour grapes.

[digamma]

Originally Posted by HerRealName

On that play fake, the right tackle/guard has to be lined up in the backfield to make the long snapper eligible. My middle school level football reffing experience tells me that's a blown call since he is within a half yard or so. Cool play design but the guard/tackle/tight end got lucky. The game was already over at that point so hopefully this won't be seen as sour grapes.

Yeah, I must have rewound to the set formation half a dozen times trying to figure out how the long snapper was eligible, before giving up and assuming the RT/G must have been deemed (seemingly incorrectly) to be off the line.

[HomerSimpson98]

hahaha - i was going to post the same as yall, but I wanted Ferentz to get another 10-year extension

[tarcone]

Here is a video explaining the play and how it is legal.

[digamma]

We get that tarc.

I think the issue is that the first TE (as the video refers to him) isn't really off the line. It's a judgment call and I have no doubt they checked it with the ref before the play (or even before the game), but he's pretty close to the line--doesn't appear to be a yard off.

[tarcone]

He looks off the line to me. The ball is on the 20 and his front foot is on the 21.

[HomerSimpson98]

Are you looking at number 86? His hand is lined up directly on the 21 - which is where all the other swinging gate guys are lined up as well. Him being on the LOS should not have allowed the center to being an eligible receiver.

[tarcone]

I disagree. Both receivers tot he right of the LS are clearly behind the LOS.

[HomerSimpson98]

If it was an Iowa State or Wisconsin play would you still disagree?

[tarcone]

No. I know Im coming across as a homer. But I see him off the line. And what does it really matter. Th refs agree with me.

I really dont know why Im arguing it.

Im out of town this weekend at a rugby tourney in Mobile, AL. They have an olds boy division. So I will be playing. Will miss Iowa spanking Wiscy.

My prediction?
Iowa 31
Wiscy 14

Go Hawks!

[Kodos]

Go Iowa. Spank the Badgers!

[mauchow]

Zip it, both of you.

I believe the Badgers will win by 10+. Iowa is 0-2 away from home in the Big Ten. Wisconsin will be lit and the defense is too good, even if we are missing our top linebackers this week.

[lungs]

Wisconsin 77
Iowa 2

[Butter]

Go Badgers. No exclamation point, because I'm not all that excited about it.

[Kodos]

A couple of interesting articles. The Big Ten needs to do something about its unbalanced divisions. Wisconsin gets a cakewalk, while teams in the East knock each other out of contention for the playoff.

The Monday After: The Big Ten may want to rethink its divisional structure - CBSSports.com

Every college football conference should scrap divisions. Here's the whole Power 5 plan. - SBNation.com

[tarcone]

I like the idea of getting rid of divisions.

But I disagree Wisconsin gets a cake walk every year. thats just a terrible statement.

[Kodos]

How many currently ranked teams has Wisconsin played so far? One. Northwestern - Ranked #25

Indiana has played Wisconsin (#8), Mich St (#12), OSU (#13), and PSU (#14).

[mauchow]

It changes every year for each team, the Badgers had Michigan and Ohio St the prior years.

It is what it is. If there's a way to get rid of divisions fairly then yes. But with 12 teams, unless everyone plays each other and have 1 non con game then nothing will change.

You could probably move Michigan over and send Purdue to the other side and get as close to balanced as possible..

But as a fan of Wisconsin, I'm loving it this way lolol

[Kodos]

The Big Ten has 14 teams. I know, it is tempting not to count Maryland and Rutgers.

[ISiddiqui]

Hey, hey... we've got a better conference record that Maryland, Indiana, Purdue, Minnesota, and Illinois!

[mauchow]

Originally Posted by Kodos

The Big Ten has 14 teams. I know, it is tempting not to count Maryland and Rutgers.

Lol, woops. So then what.. I guess maybe I'll read that article listed above. Lol

[tarcone]

Bring Michigan on over. Iowa is very successful against them.

[lungs]

It does seem like whichever team in the West gets easier crossover games will end up winning the division.

[Logan]

The best/easiest switch would be Michigan State for Purdue. UM/MSU still play each year as a protected rivalry game.

I don't think it gets any serious momentum unless an undefeated Wisconsin doesn't get in.

[Young Drachma]

Belated, but good to see Wyoming bowl eligible once again after dispensing the rival from down US-287.

I don't think the heavy stuff's gonna come down for a while...

FINAL: Wyoming 16, CSU 13 pic.twitter.com/7GKEPs5umU

— Chris Abshire (@ChrisAbshire) November 5, 2017