2006 NHL Playoff Thread - Page 24

RendeR · 06-05-2006, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by bsak16

Wait what was Staal in the box for?

I think they got the high stick call that I thought they missed.

HOLY SHIT...Roloson just got fucking crushed in the goal.....hope he ok, I'd hate to see them play this without him in goal.

Dr. Sak · 06-05-2006, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

Heck of a game...

Do Hurricans fans know the rules, or do they just automatically boo whenever a call goes against them?

No but HurricanE's fans know the rules

Maple Leafs · 06-05-2006, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by bsak16

No but HurricanE's fans know the rules

Hey spelling Nazi, work in some punctuation.

Dr. Sak · 06-05-2006, 09:41 PM

Odds that the Oilers goalie has a load in his pants?

RendeR · 06-05-2006, 09:41 PM

Hopefully Rolly will be back Wednesday night.

kingfc22 · 06-05-2006, 09:46 PM

Are you able to sub a goalie back into the game? If so, Roloson could be back in OT.

Dr. Sak · 06-05-2006, 09:52 PM

In Rod We Trust

What a crappy way to end a great game...

kingfc22 · 06-05-2006, 09:52 PM

Maple Leafs · 06-05-2006, 09:52 PM

Oh my...

Dr. Sak · 06-05-2006, 09:54 PM

HOLY SHIT WARD!!

kingfc22 · 06-05-2006, 09:54 PM

oh my again

JonInMiddleGA · 06-05-2006, 09:54 PM

Conklin = OOPS
Ward = OMG

Maple Leafs · 06-05-2006, 09:54 PM

Jesus...

Travis · 06-05-2006, 09:55 PM

Congratulations Cam Ward.

Bergeron, nice (expletive deleted) job idiot. I hope the team rips you a new one in the locker room after this game.

sterlingice · 06-05-2006, 10:01 PM

Amazing game 1. Hopefully the rest of them live up to it.

SI

RendeR · 06-05-2006, 10:02 PM

I gotta believe that if they lose Rolly for the series this ends 4-0.

Travis · 06-05-2006, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by RendeR

I gotta believe that if they lose Rolly for the series this ends 4-0.

Dude, seriously. Ward played lights out for big stretches of the game tonight and still gave up 4 goals and needed what, 4-6 ridiculous saves to win? Never mind two mind numbing plays by Bergeron (short handed goal and essentially hitting his own goalie) to set up two of Carolina's goals.

No way do they get swept. Does this make it a harder journey to take the series deep and/or win, definitely.

Give them a little credit, especially considering you were making it sound like the Oilers would be lucky to get on the scoresheet in this series.

Dr. Sak · 06-05-2006, 10:09 PM

According to Mactavish's post game press conference, Rolly is out for the series.

sterlingice · 06-05-2006, 10:09 PM

Oh, damn. Rolly's out

SI

RendeR · 06-05-2006, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Travis

Dude, seriously. Ward played lights out for big stretches of the game tonight and still gave up 4 goals and needed what, 4-6 ridiculous saves to win? Never mind two mind numbing plays by Bergeron (short handed goal and essentially hitting his own goalie) to set up two of Carolina's goals.

No way do they get swept. Does this make it a harder journey to take the series deep and/or win, definitely.

Give them a little credit, especially considering you were making it sound like the Oilers would be lucky to get on the scoresheet in this series.

#1 I never, EVER said they wouldn't score, I simply said they're outclassed and will get beat. I figured 5-6 games tops.

#2 You seem to think Roloson was having cupcakes at the other end? he made nearly as many great saves as Ward did.

Now the one thing I DID state from the beginning was experience, and without Roloson the Oilers experience level plummets to ZERO in the goal, the single most important position on the ice.

Someone else mentioned that Edmonton played down to everyone this season and aren't getting any respect because of it, maybe thats true, maybe too, they've just been riding one helluva string with a goalie who was super hot and now thats over. Who knows? we'll see.

I don't have to give anyone any credit for anything until I see it happen on the ice. Roloson used to play for Buffalo, I know he can be an amazing goaltender. I also know that the Oilers defensemen took a giant dump on the ice where he should have been at the top of his game because his backup goalie was in there.

I see the experience tipping this series all to Hartford.

Without Roloson and his magic, I just don't put any faith in the Oilers getting close to the cup. 4-0 is possible, 4-1 is probably where it will go.

Wolfpack · 06-05-2006, 10:40 PM

No gloating from me, personally. We are so lucky. The first period-and-a-half is basically what I envision in hindsight the Buffalo series probably would have been had they had a healthy defense. We couldn't get it out of our end and we couldn't keep it in theirs. We are a horrible, horrible first period team for whatever reason right now.

Still, it took tremendous guts to battle back after getting into that 3-0 hole and having everything go wrong (aside from killing off extended 5-on-3 time in the first period). In the end, it is a shame that Roli is apparently out for the series. I will admit that was a pretty cheap way to win after all that came before it, but I'm taking it anyway.

I don't know how Edmonton will respond. Knowing their #1 goalie is gone means they'll probably have to play a lot more defensively than they'd like to protect whoever the replacement will be, at least until he gets his confidence up. They also have to absorb the psychological hit of giving up a 3-0 lead and then the giveaway at the end when it looked like they could settle up for OT and steal it then. Regardless, given Carolina's penchant for never quite figuring out how to play until sometime in the second period, I do not expect it will be easy on Wednesday.

Karim · 06-05-2006, 11:13 PM

This thing is done like dinner. Maybe Edmonton squeaks one out with Conkanen.

I hope Bergeron sleeps well tonight.

Honolulu_Blue · 06-05-2006, 11:23 PM

Great game. Great, great game.

Nothing beats the NHL playoffs.

The one thing Edmonton could not afford was an injury to Roloson. Their biggest weakness was depth at goal. Very sad to see it happen. You just had to know that as soon as Conklin entered the game he was going to blow it. Some way, some how. No question in my mind. If Rolli is out for the series it's really too bad. I can't see Edmonton rallying from that. It could mean an early end to what could have been a classic series.

Well, maybe Conkanen will rise to the challenge. I doubt it, but I guess it could happen. . .

Cam Ward did have some astoundingly good saves tonight. Both of his glove saves on Horcoff were amazing, game-saving type saves. That's exactly the type of netminding that wins you a Cup. You don't have to stop them all, you just have to steal a couple and make the timely ones.

Young Drachma · 06-06-2006, 01:23 AM

Ugh. Hockey in Carolina.

gstelmack · 06-06-2006, 06:02 AM

Still can't believe Carolina pulled out the win, especially the way they stunk it up for a period-and-a-half. I think Laviollette has to have them working on puck handling for the offseason; can a guy on the point just stop the freakin' puck for once? I loved the one where the defenseman (whose name I never caught) went down on his knees to block it with his body and it STILL skittered back to Cam Ward. But if Carolina showed one thing tonight, it's that they can score at will when they put their minds to it and play like they are capable of.

Also disappointed to see Rolosson go. You want to beat a team at its best, not when their key component gets injured for the series. My sympathy to the Oilers.

albionmoonlight · 06-06-2006, 06:50 AM

Go Canes.

I agree about sympathy to the Oilers, though. Key injuries suck.

Draft Dodger · 06-06-2006, 08:29 AM

what an amazing game.

I mean, geez, Pronger's penalty shot? Hemsky's gorgeous goal to make it 4-4? Those 2 amazing saves Ward made on Horcoff? Roloson getting hurt? Conklin and Smith flubbing it with 30 seconds left? Brind'Amour looking like he's 90 years old?

just incredible

bbor · 06-06-2006, 09:38 AM

Paging Grant Fuhr and Andy Moog......

Hell page Ron Low while your at it.

Maple Leafs · 06-06-2006, 09:56 AM

Maybe Hasek is ready to go by now.

Travis · 06-06-2006, 10:16 AM

Well, it's time to see just how good MacT can be. The knock on both Conklin and Markkanen is that while they are NHL calibre goalies, they can't sustain their play for a full season as a #1 guy. Well, at this point, neither has to, they just have to play 3-6 games. When either is one, they are good enough to be a true #1, so if MacT taps the right guy on the shoulder going forward, they'll be okay. I fully expect Conklin to get the nod in game 2 if for no other reason than to get the end of game 1 out of his head, but it'll be a short leash.

It'll be interesting to see how the rest of the team reacts to having a backup in, but with the situation being what it is, I fully expect them to come out aggressive and with some extra jump. This is the sort of situation that will either kill a team or create an unlikely Cup hero, and I'm certainly pulling for the latter.

Honolulu_Blue · 06-06-2006, 05:00 PM

Perhaps an upside here is that expectations on Conklin are so low, maybe that eases the pressure and gives something for the team to rally around. Also, it seems like the one of the themes of this year's playoffs has been the emergence of the former back-up goalie: Bryzgalov, Toskala, and Ward being the prime examples.

Edmonton had a 3-0 lead on Carolina. I can't recall any spectacular save that Roloson was forced to make during the first 40 minutes or so. Roloson didn't even play that great. I certainly think that Conkanen has the potential to play as well as Roloson did last night and that was a 1 goal game that went down to the wire.

There is hope yet for the Oil.

The Oilers just have to play their agressive, forechecking style of hockey and take care of things in their own end. I saw them shutdown Detroit, San Jose, and Anaheim for long stretches. You just have to hope they can play with confidence in front of either of the goalies. That will be the real test. Carolina did not look indestructible by any means.

Peregrine · 06-06-2006, 05:29 PM

Really an incredible Game 1. I was very disappointed to see the severity of Roloson's injury, I hate seeing a player get hurt like that. I can't wait till Game 2, I'll be there!

Karim · 06-06-2006, 07:06 PM

In other news...

We'll be seeing exhibition games next season between NHL clubs and the Russian SuperLeague. No word yet on which teams will be involved, or when they will take place. Clearly this is a concession on behalf of the league to put more rubles in Russia in exchange for a transfer agreement.
http://en.rian.ru/sports/20060606/49106187.html

Wolfpack · 06-06-2006, 08:18 PM

If it isn't news already (though Peregrine seems to have hinted at it a little), it's pretty much certain that Roloson is done with a 3rd-degree sprained MCL.

bbor · 06-06-2006, 10:23 PM

How does Mc T know 5 minutes after the game that Rolo is done?

Wolfpack · 06-06-2006, 10:48 PM

He did mention it was similar to another injury another player had had, so he probably had some understanding of the severity if not the precise diagnosis of the problem.

RendeR · 06-06-2006, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by bbor

How does Mc T know 5 minutes after the game that Rolo is done?

Any sports doctor and physical therapist/sports therapy type person will be able to recognize an injury that is severe enough to eliminate you from a 1 week period of performing. Especially those working for professional clubs. I'd put money on the fact that the team trainers knew he was done before they got him off the ice.

Fidatelo · 06-07-2006, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by bbor

How does Mc T know 5 minutes after the game that Rolo is done?

I think he could come back, and that the statements after the game by MacT are gamesmanship. I think his hope is that Carolina gets the "this will be easy now" thoughts into their heads. Conkanen will start tonight, and MacT is hoping to catch Carolina being overconfidant and stealing one in Carolina.

If they steal one, they go back to Edmonton 1-1, now the holders of home ice advantage. Then MacT can unveil Rolly for game 3 and really stick a shiv into Carolina's back, simultaneously pumping up his own team and fans. Or he can save Rolly for game 4 hoping to get a decent game out of Conkanen, but if not knowing that the boost of having Rolly back in game 4 will stop any downwards momentum from a loss.

If they don't get the steal, they are still only down 0-2 and heading back home. He unveils Rolly for game 3 to boost the team and fans.

"By gawd! Its Dwayne Rollosson! Rolly is starting! The fans are going crazy! Carolina is seeing a ghost! This is unbelievable!"

Pumpy Tudors · 06-07-2006, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Fidatelo

"By gawd! Its Dwayne Rollosson! Rolly is starting! The fans are going crazy! Carolina is seeing a ghost! This is unbelievable!"

If ever I thought a player would have a Willis Reed-like return in this year's NHL playoffs, I think Dwayne Roloson would be my last guess.

Well, maybe next-to-last, right ahead of Blair Betts.

Wolfpack · 06-07-2006, 11:37 AM

The Willis Reed Theory, then? I'm not certain how easy it is to recover from a 3rd-degree MCL sprain, but I wouldn't put it past it happening, at least for a game six. Laviolette was generally trying to downplay the severity precisely because of something like this.

I doubt he'd be back by Saturday, though, judging by what has been said. If he was healthy enough to be back by Saturday, he'd probably be healthy enough tonight to at least try to play. Plus, if it's an MCL sprain (even if it's less severe), trying to play on it as a goalie would be a bear and a half given all the butterflying, kicking, and other things goalies need to do.

st.cronin · 06-07-2006, 11:40 AM

A 3rd degree MCL sprain takes about 3-5 weeks to recover from. I doubt Roloson can do it.

Fidatelo · 06-07-2006, 02:02 PM

You guys are all assuming that the information we have about Rolly's injury is actually correct. Does no one question why 99% of all injuries in the playoffs are described as "upper body" or "lower body" and yet we instantly know that this guy has a 3rd degree MCL sprain?

I'm guessing his actual injury is to his arm, and that its only bad enough to keep him out for 3-5 days.

bbor · 06-07-2006, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Fidatelo

You guys are all assuming that the information we have about Rolly's injury is actually correct. Does no one question why 99% of all injuries in the playoffs are described as "upper body" or "lower body" and yet we instantly know that this guy has a 3rd degree MCL sprain?

I'm guessing his actual injury is to his arm, and that its only bad enough to keep him out for 3-5 days.

This is what i was trying to get at.All playoffs McT has been hiding injuries...now all of a sudden he blurts out his goalie is finished 5 minutes after the game is done?

Did no one else see that red herring hanging out of his pocket?

Peregrine · 06-07-2006, 03:37 PM

Keep in mind that the 3rd degree MCL diagnosis wasn't instant, it wasn't reported until the next day. All he said at the time was that the injury would keep Roloson out for the series, which Roloson himself has confirmed. I'd be perfectly fine with Roli coming back as I hate to see him hurt like that, but after a point it starts seeming more like conspiracy theory than anything else.

gstelmack · 06-07-2006, 06:28 PM

Do you honestly think that if McT pulls some trick like this with Rolly that the Canes won't find a way to work Erik Cole back into the lineup for the following game?

Maple Leafs · 06-07-2006, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by gstelmack

Do you honestly think that if McT pulls some trick like this with Rolly that the Canes won't find a way to work Erik Cole back into the lineup for the following game?

Probably playing on a line with Francis. Hope they can shut down Gretzky and Messier.

Draft Dodger · 06-07-2006, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Karim

In other news...

We'll be seeing exhibition games next season between NHL clubs and the Russian SuperLeague. No word yet on which teams will be involved, or when they will take place. Clearly this is a concession on behalf of the league to put more rubles in Russia in exchange for a transfer agreement.
http://en.rian.ru/sports/20060606/49106187.html

so, one way or another, we'll finally see Malkin?

Fidatelo · 06-07-2006, 07:26 PM

Damn this is good hockey! I don't really care who wins the series, but I sure hope it goes 7!

RendeR · 06-07-2006, 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bbor

This is what i was trying to get at.All playoffs McT has been hiding injuries...now all of a sudden he blurts out his goalie is finished 5 minutes after the game is done?

Did no one else see that red herring hanging out of his pocket?

There is no herring, red or otherwise, this is a simple matter that he knows Rolly is done for the season at this point, there is no good reason to hide it or even try covering the fact up.

The hidden injury bit is used to protect guys that come back still hurt and play hurt so the opposing team can't zero in on the injury and knock the guy back out of the game 5 minutes into the game.

This is not it.

RendeR · 06-07-2006, 08:22 PM

2-0 and Edmonton is looking like someone killed their favorite puppy. not a good sign for a team that lives and dies on emotion.

06-05-2006, 09:41 PM	#1155
RendeR Coordinator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Buffalo, NY	Hopefully Rolly will be back Wednesday night. __________________ http://wotlabs.net/s...8/signature.png http://wotlabs.net/sig_dark/na/banichi18/signature.png

06-05-2006, 09:46 PM	#1156
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Are you able to sub a goalie back into the game? If so, Roloson could be back in OT. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

06-05-2006, 09:52 PM	#1157
Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	In Rod We Trust What a crappy way to end a great game... Last edited by Dr. Sak : 06-05-2006 at 09:52 PM.

06-05-2006, 09:52 PM	#1158
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	ouch __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

06-05-2006, 09:52 PM	#1159
Maple Leafs Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002	Oh my... __________________ Down Goes Brown: Toronto Maple Leafs Humor and Analysis

06-05-2006, 09:41 PM	#1154
Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	Odds that the Oilers goalie has a load in his pants?

06-05-2006, 09:54 PM	#1160
Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	HOLY SHIT WARD!!

06-05-2006, 09:54 PM	#1161
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	oh my again __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

06-05-2006, 09:54 PM	#1162
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	Conklin = OOPS Ward = OMG __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

06-05-2006, 09:54 PM	#1163
Maple Leafs Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002	Jesus... __________________ Down Goes Brown: Toronto Maple Leafs Humor and Analysis

06-05-2006, 09:55 PM	#1164
Travis Pro Rookie Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Canada eh	Congratulations Cam Ward. Bergeron, nice (expletive deleted) job idiot. I hope the team rips you a new one in the locker room after this game.

06-05-2006, 10:01 PM	#1165
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	Amazing game 1. Hopefully the rest of them live up to it. SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

06-05-2006, 10:02 PM	#1166
RendeR Coordinator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Buffalo, NY	I gotta believe that if they lose Rolly for the series this ends 4-0. __________________ http://wotlabs.net/s...8/signature.png http://wotlabs.net/sig_dark/na/banichi18/signature.png

06-05-2006, 10:09 PM	#1168
Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	According to Mactavish's post game press conference, Rolly is out for the series.

06-05-2006, 10:09 PM	#1169
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	Oh, damn. Rolly's out SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

06-05-2006, 10:40 PM	#1171
Wolfpack Pro Rookie Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Raleigh, NC	No gloating from me, personally. We are so lucky. The first period-and-a-half is basically what I envision in hindsight the Buffalo series probably would have been had they had a healthy defense. We couldn't get it out of our end and we couldn't keep it in theirs. We are a horrible, horrible first period team for whatever reason right now. Still, it took tremendous guts to battle back after getting into that 3-0 hole and having everything go wrong (aside from killing off extended 5-on-3 time in the first period). In the end, it is a shame that Roli is apparently out for the series. I will admit that was a pretty cheap way to win after all that came before it, but I'm taking it anyway. I don't know how Edmonton will respond. Knowing their #1 goalie is gone means they'll probably have to play a lot more defensively than they'd like to protect whoever the replacement will be, at least until he gets his confidence up. They also have to absorb the psychological hit of giving up a 3-0 lead and then the giveaway at the end when it looked like they could settle up for OT and steal it then. Regardless, given Carolina's penchant for never quite figuring out how to play until sometime in the second period, I do not expect it will be easy on Wednesday.

06-05-2006, 11:13 PM	#1172
Karim College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Calgary	This thing is done like dinner. Maybe Edmonton squeaks one out with Conkanen. I hope Bergeron sleeps well tonight.

06-05-2006, 11:23 PM	#1173
Honolulu_Blue Hockey Boy Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Royal Oak, MI	Great game. Great, great game. Nothing beats the NHL playoffs. The one thing Edmonton could not afford was an injury to Roloson. Their biggest weakness was depth at goal. Very sad to see it happen. You just had to know that as soon as Conklin entered the game he was going to blow it. Some way, some how. No question in my mind. If Rolli is out for the series it's really too bad. I can't see Edmonton rallying from that. It could mean an early end to what could have been a classic series. Well, maybe Conkanen will rise to the challenge. I doubt it, but I guess it could happen. . . Cam Ward did have some astoundingly good saves tonight. Both of his glove saves on Horcoff were amazing, game-saving type saves. That's exactly the type of netminding that wins you a Cup. You don't have to stop them all, you just have to steal a couple and make the timely ones. __________________ *Steve Yzerman*: 1,755 points in 1,514 regular season games. 185 points in 196 postseason games. A First-Team All-Star, Conn Smythe Trophy winner, Selke Trophy winner, Masterton Trophy winner, member of the Hockey Hall of Fame, Olympic gold medallist, and a three-time Stanley Cup Champion. Longest serving captain of one team in the history of the NHL (19 seasons).

06-06-2006, 01:23 AM	#1174
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	Ugh. Hockey in Carolina. __________________ Current Dynasty:The Zenith of Professional Basketball Careers (FBPB/FBCB) FBCB / FPB3 Mods

06-06-2006, 06:02 AM	#1175
gstelmack Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Cary, NC	Still can't believe Carolina pulled out the win, especially the way they stunk it up for a period-and-a-half. I think Laviollette has to have them working on puck handling for the offseason; can a guy on the point just stop the freakin' puck for once? I loved the one where the defenseman (whose name I never caught) went down on his knees to block it with his body and it STILL skittered back to Cam Ward. But if Carolina showed one thing tonight, it's that they can score at will when they put their minds to it and play like they are capable of. Also disappointed to see Rolosson go. You want to beat a team at its best, not when their key component gets injured for the series. My sympathy to the Oilers. __________________ -- Greg -- Author of various FOF utilities

06-06-2006, 06:50 AM	#1176
albionmoonlight Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Carolina	Go Canes. I agree about sympathy to the Oilers, though. Key injuries suck.

06-06-2006, 08:29 AM	#1177
Draft Dodger Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Keene, NH	what an amazing game. I mean, geez, Pronger's penalty shot? Hemsky's gorgeous goal to make it 4-4? Those 2 amazing saves Ward made on Horcoff? Roloson getting hurt? Conklin and Smith flubbing it with 30 seconds left? Brind'Amour looking like he's 90 years old? just incredible __________________ Mile High Hockey

06-06-2006, 09:38 AM	#1178
bbor Pro Starter Join Date: May 2001 Location: toronto	Paging Grant Fuhr and Andy Moog...... Hell page Ron Low while your at it. __________________ Pumpy Tudors Now that I've cracked and made that admission, I wonder if I'm only a couple of steps away from wanting to tongue-kiss Jaromir Jagr and give Bobby Clarke a blowjob.

06-06-2006, 09:56 AM	#1179
Maple Leafs Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002	Maybe Hasek is ready to go by now. __________________ Down Goes Brown: Toronto Maple Leafs Humor and Analysis

06-06-2006, 10:16 AM	#1180
Travis Pro Rookie Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Canada eh	Well, it's time to see just how good MacT can be. The knock on both Conklin and Markkanen is that while they are NHL calibre goalies, they can't sustain their play for a full season as a #1 guy. Well, at this point, neither has to, they just have to play 3-6 games. When either is one, they are good enough to be a true #1, so if MacT taps the right guy on the shoulder going forward, they'll be okay. I fully expect Conklin to get the nod in game 2 if for no other reason than to get the end of game 1 out of his head, but it'll be a short leash. It'll be interesting to see how the rest of the team reacts to having a backup in, but with the situation being what it is, I fully expect them to come out aggressive and with some extra jump. This is the sort of situation that will either kill a team or create an unlikely Cup hero, and I'm certainly pulling for the latter.

06-06-2006, 05:00 PM	#1181
Honolulu_Blue Hockey Boy Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Royal Oak, MI	Perhaps an upside here is that expectations on Conklin are so low, maybe that eases the pressure and gives something for the team to rally around. Also, it seems like the one of the themes of this year's playoffs has been the emergence of the former back-up goalie: Bryzgalov, Toskala, and Ward being the prime examples. Edmonton had a 3-0 lead on Carolina. I can't recall any spectacular save that Roloson was forced to make during the first 40 minutes or so. Roloson didn't even play that great. I certainly think that Conkanen has the potential to play as well as Roloson did last night and that was a 1 goal game that went down to the wire. There is hope yet for the Oil. The Oilers just have to play their agressive, forechecking style of hockey and take care of things in their own end. I saw them shutdown Detroit, San Jose, and Anaheim for long stretches. You just have to hope they can play with confidence in front of either of the goalies. That will be the real test. Carolina did not look indestructible by any means. __________________ *Steve Yzerman*: 1,755 points in 1,514 regular season games. 185 points in 196 postseason games. A First-Team All-Star, Conn Smythe Trophy winner, Selke Trophy winner, Masterton Trophy winner, member of the Hockey Hall of Fame, Olympic gold medallist, and a three-time Stanley Cup Champion. Longest serving captain of one team in the history of the NHL (19 seasons).

06-06-2006, 05:29 PM	#1182
Peregrine Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Cary, NC	Really an incredible Game 1. I was very disappointed to see the severity of Roloson's injury, I hate seeing a player get hurt like that. I can't wait till Game 2, I'll be there!

06-06-2006, 07:06 PM	#1183
Karim College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Calgary	In other news... We'll be seeing exhibition games next season between NHL clubs and the Russian SuperLeague. No word yet on which teams will be involved, or when they will take place. Clearly this is a concession on behalf of the league to put more rubles in Russia in exchange for a transfer agreement. http://en.rian.ru/sports/20060606/49106187.html

06-06-2006, 08:18 PM	#1184
Wolfpack Pro Rookie Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Raleigh, NC	If it isn't news already (though Peregrine seems to have hinted at it a little), it's pretty much certain that Roloson is done with a 3rd-degree sprained MCL.

06-06-2006, 10:23 PM	#1185
bbor Pro Starter Join Date: May 2001 Location: toronto	How does Mc T know 5 minutes after the game that Rolo is done? __________________ Pumpy Tudors Now that I've cracked and made that admission, I wonder if I'm only a couple of steps away from wanting to tongue-kiss Jaromir Jagr and give Bobby Clarke a blowjob.

06-06-2006, 10:48 PM	#1186
Wolfpack Pro Rookie Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Raleigh, NC	He did mention it was similar to another injury another player had had, so he probably had some understanding of the severity if not the precise diagnosis of the problem.

06-07-2006, 11:37 AM	#1190
Wolfpack Pro Rookie Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Raleigh, NC	The Willis Reed Theory, then? I'm not certain how easy it is to recover from a 3rd-degree MCL sprain, but I wouldn't put it past it happening, at least for a game six. Laviolette was generally trying to downplay the severity precisely because of something like this. I doubt he'd be back by Saturday, though, judging by what has been said. If he was healthy enough to be back by Saturday, he'd probably be healthy enough tonight to at least try to play. Plus, if it's an MCL sprain (even if it's less severe), trying to play on it as a goalie would be a bear and a half given all the butterflying, kicking, and other things goalies need to do.

06-07-2006, 11:40 AM	#1191
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	A 3rd degree MCL sprain takes about 3-5 weeks to recover from. I doubt Roloson can do it. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

06-07-2006, 02:02 PM	#1192
Fidatelo Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Winnipeg, MB	You guys are all assuming that the information we have about Rolly's injury is actually correct. Does no one question why 99% of all injuries in the playoffs are described as "upper body" or "lower body" and yet we instantly know that this guy has a 3rd degree MCL sprain? I'm guessing his actual injury is to his arm, and that its only bad enough to keep him out for 3-5 days. __________________ "Breakfast? Breakfast schmekfast, look at the score for God's sake. It's only the second period and I'm winning 12-2. Breakfasts come and go, Rene, but Hartford, the Whale, they only beat Vancouver maybe once or twice in a lifetime."

06-07-2006, 03:37 PM	#1194
Peregrine Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Cary, NC	Keep in mind that the 3rd degree MCL diagnosis wasn't instant, it wasn't reported until the next day. All he said at the time was that the injury would keep Roloson out for the series, which Roloson himself has confirmed. I'd be perfectly fine with Roli coming back as I hate to see him hurt like that, but after a point it starts seeming more like conspiracy theory than anything else.