The Official 2013 MLB Thread - Page 24

DanGarion · 07-12-2013, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Vince, Pt. II

If I'm a Dodger fan, I'm happy Puig didn't make the team. I haven't been watching their games, but I hear he's doing things like flipping his bat after walks and staring down the catcher after a collision in which he was out. If that's the case, his ego really needs to be toned down, and making the All Star game after 35 games played wouldn't have helped with that at all.

Says the Giants fan...

BishopMVP · 07-12-2013, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by panerd

So you were tuning in for his pinch hit appearance in the 7th or 8th?

No. I think Puig is 1000x more interesting than Freddie Freeman, but short of bringing out the Field of Dreams crew plus a Walter Johnson or Christy Mathewson against MLB's current best players I wouldn't go out of my way to watch that exhibition sham. The last one I remember being excited for was when Pedro started - and I vaguely remember tuning in for the late stages of the Dan Uggla error-fest and when Bud Selig nearly called the game a tie.

Logan · 07-12-2013, 12:17 PM

Will Leitch on the Puig backlash:

http://www.sportsonearth.com/article/53521232/

Crapshoot · 07-12-2013, 12:17 PM

I'm a Giants fan, and I think the backlash is the standard schpiel of old whiny sportswriters, or D-Backs with a proclivity for hitting opposing batters (step right up, Ian Kennedy). Puig is fun to watch - and 22. Its ok to have fun in baseball - seriously.

Logan · 07-12-2013, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBug708

As for the "stare", Montero seems to be the one with the issue as I dont think Puig looked at him for more than half a second.

Miguel Montero gives Yasiel Puig finger wag after collision (Video) | Larry Brown Sports

I hadn't seen the video until now, but it's pretty sad that this meets the definition of a home plate "collision" these days.

cartman · 07-12-2013, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BishopMVP

The last one I remember being excited for was when Pedro started - and I vaguely remember tuning in for the late stages of the Dan Uggla error-fest and when Bud Selig nearly called the game a tie.

He did call the 2002 game a tie.

Suicane75 · 07-12-2013, 12:41 PM

Didn't this dude just come over here on a boat, like last year? I mean, are we really going to chastise him for all this shit? It really strikes me as nothing more than trying to tear him down because he's not like everyone else. Give the kid time to assimilate for heavens sakes. I'm sure he's cocky, he's probably cocky, happy and excited beyond his wildest dreams to be out of 3rd world servitude and playing effing major league baseball. People really need to cut him some slack, or at the very least give him a decent amount of time time before branding him.

JetsIn06 · 07-12-2013, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Suicane75

Didn't this dude just come over here on a boat, like last year? I mean, are we really going to chastise him for all this shit? It really strikes me as nothing more than trying to tear him down because he's not like everyone else. Give the kid time to assimilate for heavens sakes. I'm sure he's cocky, he's probably cocky, happy and excited beyond his wildest dreams to be out of 3rd world servitude and playing effing major league baseball. People really need to cut him some slack, or at the very least give him a decent amount of time time before branding him.

Crapshoot · 07-12-2013, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Suicane75

Didn't this dude just come over here on a boat, like last year? I mean, are we really going to chastise him for all this shit? It really strikes me as nothing more than trying to tear him down because he's not like everyone else. Give the kid time to assimilate for heavens sakes. I'm sure he's cocky, he's probably cocky, happy and excited beyond his wildest dreams to be out of 3rd world servitude and playing effing major league baseball. People really need to cut him some slack, or at the very least give him a decent amount of time time before branding him.

""".This - a 1000X this. It's ok to celebrate in baseball - it's ok to have a good time. Baseball is better for it.

sterlingice · 07-12-2013, 01:05 PM

I'm still trying to figure out how Freeman beat Puig in the vote. Did LA just not show up for the vote because outside of the deep south, I would have thought Puig would have gotten a ton of novelty votes, if nothing else

SI

MrBug708 · 07-12-2013, 01:17 PM

Ian Kennedy, Luis Gonzalez, and Miguel Montero voted 1,000,000 times

ISiddiqui · 07-12-2013, 01:37 PM

I think it became a backlash against perceived ESPN pro-Puig bias. Freeman had a strong support base him already, so people jumped on that bandwagon.

Vince, Pt. II · 07-12-2013, 02:27 PM

Apologies if I came across as "a Giants fan." I mentioned specifically that I hadn't seen any of it, and that I was running off the narrative. Shocking that the narrative is overblown, I know.

MrBug708 · 07-12-2013, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Vince, Pt. II

Apologies if I came across as "a Giants fan." I mentioned specifically that I hadn't seen any of it, and that I was running off the narrative. Shocking that the narrative is overblown, I know.

You just are a Giants fan.

DanGarion · 07-12-2013, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Suicane75

Didn't this dude just come over here on a boat, like last year? I mean, are we really going to chastise him for all this shit? It really strikes me as nothing more than trying to tear him down because he's not like everyone else. Give the kid time to assimilate for heavens sakes. I'm sure he's cocky, he's probably cocky, happy and excited beyond his wildest dreams to be out of 3rd world servitude and playing effing major league baseball. People really need to cut him some slack, or at the very least give him a decent amount of time time before branding him.

This is exactly what I was thinking.

DanGarion · 07-12-2013, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by sterlingice

I'm still trying to figure out how Freeman beat Puig in the vote. Did LA just not show up for the vote because outside of the deep south, I would have thought Puig would have gotten a ton of novelty votes, if nothing else

SI

Because of the sanctity of the game *rolls eyes* all the traditionalist baseball fans voted for Freeman.

DanGarion · 07-12-2013, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Vince, Pt. II

Apologies if I came across as "a Giants fan." I mentioned specifically that I hadn't seen any of it, and that I was running off the narrative. Shocking that the narrative is overblown, I know.

I hope you didn't think I was really being a jerk, I'm just playing with you Vince.

TroyF · 07-12-2013, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

I think it became a backlash against perceived ESPN pro-Puig bias. Freeman had a strong support base him already, so people jumped on that bandwagon.

Many people believed like I do, that less than 150 at bats should not make you an all star.

As for the rest of it, it's the dbags trying to bring the kid down. That said, I do believe kid has some serious growing up to do. He should have had a suspension in the brawl and didn't get one. I'm sure he will be fine and I'm sure hell get on the all star team someday. Just happy he didn't make it this year.

panerd · 07-12-2013, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by sterlingice

I'm still trying to figure out how Freeman beat Puig in the vote. Did LA just not show up for the vote because outside of the deep south, I would have thought Puig would have gotten a ton of novelty votes, if nothing else

SI

I remember seeing on a sports talk show (PTI I think) that Atlanta and Toronto "teamed up" and encouraged fans to not only vote for their guy but the guy from the partner team. On one hand I think to myself the Cardinals could tell me to vote for Pete Kozma and Ike Davis all they want and it aint happening but on the other hand Freeman and the Blue Jay (don't recall who it was but I don't think he was the top of that group) ended up winning.

panerd · 07-12-2013, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

I think it became a backlash against perceived ESPN pro-Puig bias. Freeman had a strong support base him already, so people jumped on that bandwagon.

Yes this as well. I find this happening to me quite a bit nowadays also. Just recently I have negative feelings towards Dwight Howard, Puig, and the Brooklyn Nets but never really had an opinion on any of the three weeks ago. Its my own fault for watching and listening to so much sports talk but I will admit I do get tired of hearing about the three because of it.

ISiddiqui · 07-12-2013, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by TroyF

Many people believed like I do, that less than 150 at bats should not make you an all star.

It's over 150 right now

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At the same time, Bryce Harper only has 190 ABs and will be an All-Star. That's not much better.

BishopMVP · 07-12-2013, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by cartman

He did call the 2002 game a tie.

Shows how closely I watched.

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Originally Posted by Crapshoot

""".This - a 1000X this. It's ok to celebrate in baseball - it's ok to have a good time. Baseball is better for it.

Co-sign. Reminds me of the PK Subban backlash in hockey.

Marmel · 07-12-2013, 05:26 PM

One (of the hundreds) of reasons that the NFL has lapped MLB many times over is that they promote their young stars. Look at the attention Wilson, RG3 and Luck received last year. MLB won't even put a kid in a meaningless game. The 1960's mindset is so boring and hurts MLB and I am a fan of the sport so it is disappointing.

SackAttack · 07-12-2013, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Vince, Pt. II

If that's the case, his ego really needs to be toned down, and making the All Star game after 35 games played wouldn't have helped with that at all.

Or, conversely, if his ego is as monstrous as the haters make it out to be, he comes back after the All-Star Break and proceeds to rip the National League a new one to prove a point.

If keeping him off the team is about his 'ego,' that's a knife cuts both ways.

That said, I don't think it's the end of the world that he didn't make the team. I would have made a point to watch the game if he were in it, and I very much doubt I'll give enough of a shit to watch it without him, but the Final Vote outcome isn't the end of the world.

JonInMiddleGA · 07-12-2013, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by SackAttack

I would have made a point to watch the game if he were in it, and I very much doubt I'll give enough of a shit to watch it without him, but the Final Vote outcome isn't the end of the world.

This ... and I'm in Atlanta (and like Freeman & felt his numbers were A-S worthy in most years) for cryin' out loud.

cuervo72 · 07-12-2013, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Marmel

One (of the hundreds) of reasons that the NFL has lapped MLB many times over is that they promote their young stars. Look at the attention Westbrook, RG3 and Luck received last year. MLB won't even put a kid in a meaningless game. The 1960's mindset is so boring and hurts MLB and I am a fan of the sport so it is disappointing.

Westbrook?

MrBug708 · 07-12-2013, 05:56 PM

Wilson I'm assuming

cuervo72 · 07-12-2013, 06:00 PM

NFL better market him better, then.

Marmel · 07-12-2013, 06:07 PM

Haha, yeah Wilson.

SackAttack · 07-12-2013, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

This ... and I'm in Atlanta (and like Freeman & felt his numbers were A-S worthy in most years) for cryin' out loud.

Jon, we've talked about this. Sharing the same side of an issue with you is uncomfortable. Stop that.

JonInMiddleGA · 07-12-2013, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by SackAttack

Jon, we've talked about this. Sharing the same side of an issue with you is uncomfortable. Stop that.

Just use the "it's different because he's got a whole different skewed perspective because of being in Atlanta ... or something" exception. That should alleviate at least some of the discomfort.

(Granted that actually doesn't make a lot of sense but, well, no rule says it has to. Right?)

PilotMan · 07-13-2013, 11:46 PM

Big Time Timmy Jam is working on a no hitter in San Diego, bottom 8, 2 out. He is up to 127 pitches now.

kingfc22 · 07-13-2013, 11:47 PM

Timmy. 3 more outs but sitting on 131 pitches...

PilotMan · 07-13-2013, 11:59 PM

140+ pitches now.

Young Drachma · 07-14-2013, 12:00 AM

Video | MLB.com Multimedia

kingfc22 · 07-14-2013, 12:00 AM

One more to go...

Young Drachma · 07-14-2013, 12:01 AM

I love baseball fans because they appreciate history.

PilotMan · 07-14-2013, 12:01 AM

Wow that was close. That could have been gone in a heartbeat.

PilotMan · 07-14-2013, 12:03 AM

I hate the Giants, but I appreciate baseball, and I love no-hitters.

Young Drachma · 07-14-2013, 12:04 AM

Love a no-no. Love also that the Pads were playing down to the last pitch. Weren't just giving it away.

kingfc22 · 07-14-2013, 12:05 AM

Awesome. Especially after being on the other end of the no-hitter last time out.

Vince, Pt. II · 07-14-2013, 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by DanGarion

I hope you didn't think I was really being a jerk, I'm just playing with you Vince.

It's all good

Great to see Timmy get the No-No. Makes me really wonder what's going to happen to him over the next few months. He's been flirting with these mechanics for a while, looks like he may have found them. Is it enough for the Giants to want to sign him long term? Do they trade him? He's the most intriguing off-the-field story in almost all of baseball, I think (non-steroid division).

MrBug708 · 07-14-2013, 12:49 AM

Timmah just driving up his cost for either Boston or the Giants

Crapshoot · 07-14-2013, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by MrBug708

Timmah just driving up his cost for either Boston or the Giants

My money is on Seattle actually / pretty much seen as a no brainer.

But holy shit, what a performance.

SackAttack · 07-14-2013, 02:04 AM

First no-hitter I've ever seen start to finish. Tuned in in the late innings for a couple that had been going, but never watched one from the beginning before. Pretty cool.

Lathum · 07-14-2013, 05:42 AM

UW!!!!

JonInMiddleGA · 07-14-2013, 02:25 PM

Irony.

2013 All-Star Game -- Freddie Freeman of Atlanta Braves injured, ruled out - ESPN

JonInMiddleGA · 07-14-2013, 03:47 PM

Brian McCann named as Freeman's replacement btw

korme · 07-15-2013, 09:01 PM

Chris Berman is really making this HR Derby fun to watch.

Lathum · 07-15-2013, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by korme

Chris Berman is really making this HR Derby fun to watch.

He has improved himself alot from previous years.

Next year I plan to be in the outfield with my
glove.

07-12-2013, 12:17 PM	#1153
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	Will Leitch on the Puig backlash: http://www.sportsonearth.com/article/53521232/ Last edited by Logan : 07-12-2013 at 12:17 PM.

07-12-2013, 01:05 PM	#1160
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	I'm still trying to figure out how Freeman beat Puig in the vote. Did LA just not show up for the vote because outside of the deep south, I would have thought Puig would have gotten a ton of novelty votes, if nothing else SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

07-12-2013, 01:37 PM	#1162
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	I think it became a backlash against perceived ESPN pro-Puig bias. Freeman had a strong support base him already, so people jumped on that bandwagon. __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

07-12-2013, 05:26 PM	#1173
Marmel Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Manchester, CT	One (of the hundreds) of reasons that the NFL has lapped MLB many times over is that they promote their young stars. Look at the attention Wilson, RG3 and Luck received last year. MLB won't even put a kid in a meaningless game. The 1960's mindset is so boring and hurts MLB and I am a fan of the sport so it is disappointing. __________________ 81-78 Cincinnati basketball writer P. Daugherty, "Connor Barwin playing several minutes against Syracuse is like kids with slingshots taking down Caesar's legions." Last edited by Marmel : 07-12-2013 at 06:07 PM. Reason: brainfart

07-12-2013, 06:00 PM	#1178
cuervo72 Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Maryland	NFL better market him better, then. __________________ null

07-12-2013, 12:17 PM	#1154
Crapshoot Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2003	I'm a Giants fan, and I think the backlash is the standard schpiel of old whiny sportswriters, or D-Backs with a proclivity for hitting opposing batters (step right up, Ian Kennedy). Puig is fun to watch - and 22. Its ok to have fun in baseball - seriously.

07-12-2013, 12:41 PM	#1157
Suicane75 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: NJ	Didn't this dude just come over here on a boat, like last year? I mean, are we really going to chastise him for all this shit? It really strikes me as nothing more than trying to tear him down because he's not like everyone else. Give the kid time to assimilate for heavens sakes. I'm sure he's cocky, he's probably cocky, happy and excited beyond his wildest dreams to be out of 3rd world servitude and playing effing major league baseball. People really need to cut him some slack, or at the very least give him a decent amount of time time before branding him.

07-12-2013, 01:17 PM	#1161
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Ian Kennedy, Luis Gonzalez, and Miguel Montero voted 1,000,000 times

07-12-2013, 02:27 PM	#1163
Vince, Pt. II Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Somewhere More Familiar	Apologies if I came across as "a Giants fan." I mentioned specifically that I hadn't seen any of it, and that I was running off the narrative. Shocking that the narrative is overblown, I know.

07-12-2013, 05:56 PM	#1177
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Wilson I'm assuming

07-12-2013, 06:07 PM	#1179
Marmel Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Manchester, CT	Haha, yeah Wilson. __________________ 81-78 Cincinnati basketball writer P. Daugherty, "Connor Barwin playing several minutes against Syracuse is like kids with slingshots taking down Caesar's legions."

07-13-2013, 11:46 PM	#1182
PilotMan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Seven miles up	Big Time Timmy Jam is working on a no hitter in San Diego, bottom 8, 2 out. He is up to 127 pitches now. __________________ He's just like if Snow White was competitive, horny, and capable of beating the shit out of anyone that called her Pops. Like Steam? Join the FOFC Steam group here: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/FOFConSteam

07-13-2013, 11:47 PM	#1183
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Timmy. 3 more outs but sitting on 131 pitches... __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

07-13-2013, 11:59 PM	#1184
PilotMan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Seven miles up	140+ pitches now. __________________ He's just like if Snow White was competitive, horny, and capable of beating the shit out of anyone that called her Pops. Like Steam? Join the FOFC Steam group here: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/FOFConSteam

07-14-2013, 12:00 AM	#1185
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	Video \| MLB.com Multimedia __________________ FBCB / FPB3 Mods

07-14-2013, 12:00 AM	#1186
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	One more to go... __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

07-14-2013, 12:01 AM	#1187
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	I love baseball fans because they appreciate history. __________________ FBCB / FPB3 Mods

07-14-2013, 12:01 AM	#1188
PilotMan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Seven miles up	Wow that was close. That could have been gone in a heartbeat. __________________ He's just like if Snow White was competitive, horny, and capable of beating the shit out of anyone that called her Pops. Like Steam? Join the FOFC Steam group here: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/FOFConSteam

07-14-2013, 12:03 AM	#1189
PilotMan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Seven miles up	I hate the Giants, but I appreciate baseball, and I love no-hitters. __________________ He's just like if Snow White was competitive, horny, and capable of beating the shit out of anyone that called her Pops. Like Steam? Join the FOFC Steam group here: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/FOFConSteam

07-14-2013, 12:04 AM	#1190
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	Love a no-no. Love also that the Pads were playing down to the last pitch. Weren't just giving it away.

07-14-2013, 12:05 AM	#1191
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Awesome. Especially after being on the other end of the no-hitter last time out. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

07-14-2013, 12:49 AM	#1193
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Timmah just driving up his cost for either Boston or the Giants

07-14-2013, 02:04 AM	#1195
SackAttack Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Green Bay, WI	First no-hitter I've ever seen start to finish. Tuned in in the late innings for a couple that had been going, but never watched one from the beginning before. Pretty cool.

07-14-2013, 05:42 AM	#1196
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	UW!!!!

07-14-2013, 02:25 PM	#1197
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	Irony. 2013 All-Star Game -- Freddie Freeman of Atlanta Braves injured, ruled out - ESPN __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

07-14-2013, 03:47 PM	#1198
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	Brian McCann named as Freeman's replacement btw __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

07-15-2013, 09:01 PM	#1199
korme Go Reds Join Date: May 2001 Location: Bloodbuzz Ohio	Chris Berman is really making this HR Derby fun to watch.

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