05-14-2007, 11:49 AM | #1151 | |
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Yes, I know the evidence throughout Moss' career tends to show that Walsh is just making it all up...
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05-14-2007, 12:02 PM | #1152 | |
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Um, no. My point is I can use my own eyes to see Randy's lack of dedication. And there has been plenty of that. I'll just pass on putting stock in a guy who probably is only months removed from believing he lost his coaching job due to Moss. Let's put it this way. On a weaker team with a weaker locker room and weaker coach than in New England for a long term contract, I would pass on Moss most definitely because Moss cannot function in a situation like that. But in New England, he has a shot at it. That's all. |
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05-14-2007, 12:09 PM | #1153 |
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My hate for the Patriots rivals my hate for the Yankees, but I think Moss will be fine in New England. He's the type of person that can't function in a losing environment. I'm not saying what he's done is ok or anything of that nature, but I really don't believe you'll see it in New England.
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05-14-2007, 12:09 PM | #1154 | |
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Right. I stand corrected. Only the Landry interview was on tape. And as predicted by others, I believe Buchanana just recently issued his first denial. |
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05-14-2007, 12:12 PM | #1155 | |
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I still don't see what that has to do with what Walsh said. We've certainly seen plenty of evidence of exactly what he described, so the only reason not to "put stock" in what he's said is if you believe what he described didn't happen.
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05-14-2007, 12:14 PM | #1156 | |
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I like saying Buchanana. Keep spelling it that way.
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05-14-2007, 12:16 PM | #1157 |
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I guess all I can say is I'll need other confirmation before I believe a bitter Walsh that Randy blew 14 of 28 assignments. I'm not saying it didn't happen. I'm not saying it did either.
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05-14-2007, 12:45 PM | #1158 | |
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There aren't many studies that have examined this issue, however, there are a few. Most experts in childhood development of sociopathy consider cruelty to animals (outside of hunting and eating them) to be one of the cardinal signs of sociopathy that is the worst prognostic factor (along with malicious fire starting and wetting/messing oneself intentionally.) Cruelty to common house hold pets is worse in that hierarchy than say cruelty to a bug or something repulsive. Those studies have been extended to include a belief that in adults animal cruelty is a marker for more severe forms of sociopathic behavior and lack of empathy for one's fellow man.
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05-15-2007, 08:05 AM | #1159 | |
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I guess that there could still be federal charges brought against Vick, but it looks like the state is not that interested in pursuing anything.
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05-15-2007, 08:09 AM | #1160 |
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Though having lived through the whole Duke Rape disgrace up here, I can say that I appreciate a prosecuting attorney who does not talk about charges in the media. |
05-15-2007, 08:11 AM | #1161 |
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If that evidence is there, this guy is going to get roasted for not bring charges against Vick. I mean, not only is there supposedly evidence that he actively participated, but he owns the damn property!
At some point, those witness statements will be made public and this guy will have to answer for what he did (or failed to do). Then again, it could be that he has the evidence and is keeping everything close to the vest so as not to allow leaks, which might mean he's planning to charge Vick. Who knows.
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05-15-2007, 08:13 AM | #1162 |
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Yeah, my last point is related to the Duke thing. Maybe he's keeping the investigators and other 3rd parties out of it to lessen the chances of information getting out before he decides what to do. If the evidence is what they say it is, maybe he doesn't need any help in making this decision - he just doesn't want many people knowing what the decision is.
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05-15-2007, 08:15 AM | #1163 |
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I wonder what he means by a "conclusion in 7 to 10 days." I guess that could mean the investigation concludes, or the case concludes. The author seems to think it means the case, but I don't necessarily read it that way.
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05-15-2007, 08:30 AM | #1164 | |
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But isn't this also a cultural thing? I don't think all fans of bullfighting are sociopaths. I know a Filipino playwright that has included cock fighting in a number of his plays as a way to explore coming into manhood. I'm not trying to defend Vick in any way, but it would seem that cultural norms have to play a very big role in determining the meaning of a love for animal fighting. I would also think that there is a difference between an organized fighting ring and animal torture, but I don't know about that.
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05-15-2007, 11:10 AM | #1165 | |
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Actually, at least one of the studies I know of is cross cultural. People who like to see animals kill each other usually have some degree of sociopathy, even if it is just a little. It is just a marker or indicator and doesn't mean that someone is a sociopath. However, it does indicate they are more likely to be one (at least if you believe the studies.) My personal opinion is that it is among the most despicable things, and I'll never be a fan of Vick's again if this looks likely to be true. |
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05-15-2007, 02:38 PM | #1166 |
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Interesting. Thanks EF27.
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05-18-2007, 01:07 AM | #1167 | |
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05-18-2007, 05:19 AM | #1168 |
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Yeah, I saw that bit about Jackson, and it really made no sense.
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05-18-2007, 11:00 AM | #1169 |
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Finally, some GOOD news out of the NFL. At least one player has his priorities straight...
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/4815188.html 30 becomes someone's lucky number thanks to Texans' Green, Simmons By MEGAN MANFULL Copyright 2007 Houston Chronicle Texans running back Ahman Green asked around the locker room before he even approached Jason Simmons. Green wanted to know if he was wasting his time. He didn't know Simmons well, and, even more importantly, he didn't know how attached the Texans safety was to the No. 30. "Everybody was like, 'He's a good guy. He's going to work something out with you someway or somehow,' " Green said. Green, who started wearing 30 even before attending Nebraska, became optimistic but still wasn't sure what it might cost him. The tradition around the NFL is that if you want someone else's number, you pay them. When Green finally asked, Simmons shocked him. "He said, 'Sure, but I'd like you to make a down payment on a single-parent home through a foundation or charity,' " Green said. "I was like, 'Yeah I'm all on board. That's easy. Tell me where to write the check to.' "So instead of putting the money into his pocket, he's going to put in into somebody else's home and help them get their life started." Simmons had no personal connection to the number 30. He wore 23 for four seasons with the Pittsburgh Steelers. When he arrived in Houston as a free agent before the 2002 season, they handed him 30. Now, he will wear No. 22. "It was the first number I saw," Simmons said of 22. "I don't care. Just put me on the field, and I'll play with any number." No. 30 does mean something to Simmons now, and he also knows it will soon mean something to a worthy family in the community. Simmons always found it a little ridiculous that players pay each other for certain numbers. But now, he is excited about how that old NFL tradition will be put toward a good cause. "It's kind of tough for me to take money from another guy," Simmons said. "I don't need that. We'll go out and help the community, because this city has stuck by us. If we can go out and show that we're with the community and we appreciate all that they've done, I think it's a good thing." Attention will help Simmons has worked with various charities during his 10-year career, but it's usually been done with little fanfare. This time it's going to be different. Green was the first to speak out about their plans, but Simmons doesn't mind the attention. They will reveal more details once they finalize their plans. "It's not about getting credit for it," Simmons said. "But the way I look at it now is that I can get more people involved. It's time now to broaden my horizons, and if I can follow the same game plan, we can help more people out instead of just one person." 'Good role models' It's that type of collaboration between Green and Simmons that coach Gary Kubiak values. He wants to build the team around youth but puts value on players who set positive examples on and off the field. "When Ahman Green walks on this football field, it's instant respect because of the way he has played and stuff," Kubiak said. "But the guys we have on this team that are up in years, so to speak, are classy guys. And that's what we want, because we have such a young group that they have to have good role models every day, and I think we have that right now."
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05-18-2007, 12:37 PM | #1170 |
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Sweet, awesome job.
This should be cross-posted with the Braylon Edwards thread. |
05-18-2007, 12:43 PM | #1171 |
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Very cool. Thanks for posting Jeeber. Simmons immediately vaults to my list of players that I'll root for.
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05-18-2007, 01:21 PM | #1172 |
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very cool. Maybe this happens all the time or not that often, but it is always good to hear about it.
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05-21-2007, 02:17 PM | #1173 |
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KC media outlets reporting that the Dolphins corporate jet is on the ground here in KC. Sounds like the deal for Trent Green may finally be done.
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05-21-2007, 05:35 PM | #1174 |
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Seau resigns with the Pats. He helped out much more on the field than I was expecting last year, so it's nice to have him back.
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05-23-2007, 04:10 PM | #1175 |
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Oops! Wanna Get Away?
Steelers employee e-mails porn to NFL Posted: Wednesday May 23, 2007 06:15AM ET The Steelers confirmed yesterday that one of their employees sent an "inappropriate e-mail" message from the club office to "unintended recipients" last week, violating club and NFL policy. ProFootballTalk.com first reported that Steelers line coach Larry Zierlein inadvertently forwarded an e-mail he received from Doug Whaley, the Steelers' pro personnel coordinator, to multiple high-level team employees and their secretaries throughout the NFL, including commissioner Roger Goodell.
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05-23-2007, 04:29 PM | #1176 | |
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Hahaha. I bet it was just one of those funny chain-letter type of e-mails that contain a humorours sexual pic and/or movie. |
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05-23-2007, 04:49 PM | #1177 | |
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That should be quite a training camp for the Dolphins. They'll have three guys battling for the starting job.
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05-23-2007, 07:08 PM | #1178 | |
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Take it a step further. Its probably that Camel Toe music bit set to the Beach Boys thats flying around cyberspace.
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06-04-2007, 03:07 PM | #1179 |
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No surprise here:
Tank Johnson gets 8 game suspension.
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06-05-2007, 09:21 AM | #1180 |
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Saints first round pick WR Robert Meachem is having arthroscopic surgery on his knee. He should be ready to go in time for training camp.
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06-05-2007, 09:57 AM | #1181 |
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Asante Samuel is threatening to not report till Week 10, since he hasn't signed the franchise tender yet.
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06-05-2007, 10:26 AM | #1182 |
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Samuel says he feels unappreciated. Just shut the fuck up and play.
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06-05-2007, 10:31 AM | #1183 |
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don't play then sucka. you ain't all that and the pats will let you rot there I bet.
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06-05-2007, 10:38 AM | #1184 |
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Samuel is going to probably make at least 3 times his previous 4 years earnings this year. Shut the fuck up and play, and sign your tender before they pull it. Next year he's guaranteed to make about 9.5 million if they refranchise, or he'll become a FA. Play your ass off this year, and it'll take care of itself....you ain't champ Bailey or even Nate Clements yet...close though I suppose.
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06-05-2007, 10:41 AM | #1185 |
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This feels like Groundhog's Day.
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06-05-2007, 10:45 AM | #1186 |
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Groundhog's Day? Isn't it just Groundhog Day?
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06-05-2007, 10:47 AM | #1187 |
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I understand where he's coming from - he needs to make his money now while he's young and has the leverage. We all know that veterans have no weight in the NFL - that's the way the league works. If he signs the tender, plays, and blows out a knee or something in game 4, he's losing a huge amount of money. $7m+ is definitely a lot of money, but I can't fault him for thinking about future earnings. He and the Patriots don't take it personally, just part of the business of the NFL.
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06-05-2007, 10:52 AM | #1188 |
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I appreciate Samuel.
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06-05-2007, 10:55 AM | #1189 |
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Not the day the Groundhogs revolted against humanity, that is referred to as Groundhog's day.
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06-05-2007, 10:56 AM | #1190 |
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Let the groundhogs have their fucking day. It's just one day! I give them permission to own that one day.
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06-05-2007, 10:57 AM | #1191 |
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I can't wait for the "Pats tell Asante Samuel to s*ck it" thread.
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06-05-2007, 01:57 PM | #1193 |
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Asante does assume some risk there though. If he comes back rusty in Week 10 and looks average/above-average for the remainder of the season, teams might dismiss 2006 as a career year and he'll cost himself some $$$, although not as much as an injury would.
From a team standpoint, it's not the worst thing. The Patriots are good enough to make the playoffs regardless of whether Asante is there the first half, so this lets them develop the Ellis Hobbs, Randall Gay's and Brandon Meriwether's of the team. Then if Asante comes back and gets to full speed by playoff time, they've got depth in case of injury (which recent years showed, and especially with Harrison and Gay back there, it's likely.) Of course, I'd still love it if we signed him by July 15, or he showed up by Week 1, which still has a decent chance of happening. |
06-05-2007, 02:07 PM | #1194 |
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I don't want to see the Pats lock up a ton of money on this guy long term. Franchise tag makes all the sense in the world. He had a great year yes but he's looking for elite money probably and the guy just isn't an elite corner.
He's on the wrong team to push for a huge deal at corner. That is not the operating procedure of this staff.
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06-05-2007, 03:14 PM | #1195 |
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When I say I'd love if we signed him longer-term by July 15, that's if he's coming down near where what we wanted to pay, rather than us paying him close to what he's asking (which won't happen.)
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06-05-2007, 07:19 PM | #1196 |
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Well, 'Fins fans, you got your QB... better protect him!
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06-05-2007, 07:27 PM | #1197 |
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It's Groundhog's day everyday, MoFo!
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06-06-2007, 12:33 AM | #1198 |
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Two things:
Samuel, sign the tender and buy some FUCKING INSURANCE. Enough already about all these players whining about possible career injuries and I need my money now, and the media constantly buying into this crap. The real reason though is he wants his money now because teams will see after next season that indeed he is good, but no Champ Bailey. Second, the Pats don't need a defense anyways. Randy Moss, baby. YEAH. (I'll let you decide which of those two points I actually believe) |
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At least his agent isn't Drew Rosenhaus.
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