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View Poll Results: I think we can agree Mustang is the MVP, who did the second best job?
Airhog - Crazy Duke postings were funny, and his voting graphs were helpful 11 35.48%
KevinNU7 - Survived to the end and had some good analysis 2 6.45%
Qwikshot - Threw everyone off as the Cultist, his list was key even after he died! 5 16.13%
Desnudo - Good Bodyguard work and survived despite a lot of suspicion at times 13 41.94%
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Old 07-01-2005, 09:18 AM   #1151
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I'm hoping for an early lynching but we'll need all the votes.
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Old 07-01-2005, 09:23 AM   #1152
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So I guess I'm the last one, huh? And I'm not really convinced of either person's guilt. I guess there is slightly more reason for Kwhitt than ntn, though. So I Vote for Kwhitt.

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Old 07-01-2005, 09:31 AM   #1153
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Okay you guys are tied right now, by my count, 4-4. Anyone want to change their mind?
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Old 07-01-2005, 09:32 AM   #1154
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I'm still not decided on the tie rule. Hopefully it won't come up...
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Old 07-01-2005, 09:33 AM   #1155
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I will switch to NTNDeacon if no one is willing to switch to KWhit. I really think the case is much stronger for the latter, but Deacon has been suspicious enough to take a chance.
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Old 07-01-2005, 09:34 AM   #1156
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Why the hell would Barkeep vote for me to induce a tie if he's "not really convinced of either person's guilt?"

Umm... A tie helps the wolves, Barkeep.
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Old 07-01-2005, 09:42 AM   #1157
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All right, against my better judgement I vote NTNDeacon. A tie probably loses us a villager tonight and doesn't change anything except that there would not be a tie tomorrow.
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Old 07-01-2005, 09:44 AM   #1158
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All right, against my better judgement I vote NTNDeacon. A tie probably loses us a villager tonight and doesn't change anything except that there would not be a tie tomorrow.

I tie would lose us a villager actually.. (unless the bodyguard is correct...), I can't think of any reason to tie the vote up. ???
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Old 07-01-2005, 09:44 AM   #1159
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Ok it 5-3 let's give it until 11. FYI I'm willing to flip flip so if a tie comes up again I will move my vote. Nice try wolfies
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Old 07-01-2005, 09:46 AM   #1160
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I tie would lose us a villager actually.. (unless the bodyguard is correct...), I can't think of any reason to tie the vote up. ???

Exactly, that's why I untied it.
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Old 07-01-2005, 10:00 AM   #1161
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Old 07-01-2005, 10:06 AM   #1162
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Okay, the final vote is:

ntndeacon - 5 (Airhog, Kwhit, KevinNU7, Desnudo, Mustang)

Kwhit - 3 (ntndeacon, eaglesfan, barkeep)


You string ntndeacon up with ruthless efficiency, despite his protests to the end. Valid protests, since he was an innocent villager!

Night 8

Jon - killed on Night 7 (seer)
Swaggs - Lynched on Day 6 (werewolf)
TazFTW - Lynched on Day 2 (villager)
NoMyths - killed on Night 5 (Sorceror)
Qwikshot - Lynched on Day 3 (Cultist)
ntndeacon - lynched on Day 7 (Villager)
McSweeny - killed on Night 3 (Witness)
Shorty - Lynched on Day 1 (villager)
BrianD - lynched on Day 4 (Doctor)
Condors - killed by the Hunter on Night 4 (Villager)
GWB - killed on Night 4 (Hunter)
Lathum - Lynched Day 5 (Werewolf)

Survivors:

Airhog - Duke
Barkeep49
KevinNU7
Mustang
Desnudo
Eaglesfan
Kwhit


Get your night actions in ASAP and we'll turn this back around for another day.

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Old 07-01-2005, 10:07 AM   #1163
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Oh shit.
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Old 07-01-2005, 10:08 AM   #1164
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I knew it. Sorry deacon, I should have stuck to my guns.
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Old 07-01-2005, 10:08 AM   #1165
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Well that sucked. IMO he should have gone earlier do to his lack of posting. Well if I live I'm voting for KWhit
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Old 07-01-2005, 10:10 AM   #1166
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Ok it 5-3 let's give it until 11. FYI I'm willing to flip flip so if a tie comes up again I will move my vote. Nice try wolfies

I'll flip flop too if they come in late. I'm sure a few people would to make sure it isn't a tie but, Barkeep is a known villager detected by the seer, isn't he? I'm trying to figure out why.. unless the seer sees a cursed as a regular villager? That or, it sure wasn't Jon that was the target the other night and they happened upon the cursed.. guess it explains the desire to want to get a new player in there.. although, new player.. unfamiliar I guess...

So much for a Friday end...


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Old 07-01-2005, 10:10 AM   #1167
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IMO I think Airhog is gone "tonight" There isn't many people left and the wolf/wolves will want to eliminate anyone who is obviously not a wolf
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Old 07-01-2005, 10:10 AM   #1168
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Would Airhog have lived so long if he hadn't revealed himself as the Duke so early? Discuss.
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Old 07-01-2005, 10:11 AM   #1169
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There were a lot better reasons to vote for others, meaning KWhit and Lathum, than Deacon. Number one being that Airhog was voting for Deacon.
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Old 07-01-2005, 10:11 AM   #1170
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Well that sucks. We're out a villager, and now everybody's MORE convinced I'm a wolf.


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Old 07-01-2005, 10:11 AM   #1171
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Crap.. Didn't see the results while I was typing up...

So, what is going to happen now with the weekend? continuing on or??
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Old 07-01-2005, 10:12 AM   #1172
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(In other news, my workday SUCKS so far... I hate month ends...)
Mine is typically the Mon, Tuesday and Wednesday until 1pm after the month ends. Our company has given us the 4th AND 5th off. Guess when the month closes for us? You guessed it, still Wednesday at 1pm. Fun
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Old 07-01-2005, 10:13 AM   #1173
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It seems likely we'll be playing through the weekend at this point. If everyone could post their availability for the Sat-Sun-Monday period it would help me decide how to set the timeline.
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Old 07-01-2005, 10:13 AM   #1174
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Well it looks to me like BarKeep isn't a wolf. He came in and tied the votes when you could have put Deacon, a non-wolf away.
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Old 07-01-2005, 10:14 AM   #1175
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It seems likely we'll be playing through the weekend at this point. If everyone could post their availability for the Sat-Sun-Monday period it would help me decide how to set the timeline.
Looks like there's atleast 2 wolfs left!

Peregrine, I am without internet until Tuesday afternoon, starting tomorrow morning I can be replaced if need be
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Old 07-01-2005, 10:18 AM   #1176
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Nobody's getting replaced at this point, we'll just sit tight through the weekend if we have to. I'm heading out to lunch now and will be gone for a couple of hours, we should definitely have time for one more day/night cycle today, more if people are available later on tonight.
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Old 07-01-2005, 10:18 AM   #1177
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Well it looks to me like BarKeep isn't a wolf. He came in and tied the votes when you could have put Deacon, a non-wolf away.

A tie helps the wolves.. they would have gotten a free kill tonight.
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Old 07-01-2005, 10:22 AM   #1178
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Looks like there's atleast 2 wolfs left!

Or there's only one left and it isn't me (who it seems obvious that everyone wants to lynch).
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Old 07-01-2005, 10:23 AM   #1179
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Would Airhog have lived so long if he hadn't revealed himself as the Duke so early? Discuss.

With his ability to pick out and vote for innocent villagers, I don't think the wolfs would have eaten him.
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Old 07-01-2005, 10:27 AM   #1180
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Well it looks to me like BarKeep isn't a wolf. He came in and tied the votes when you could have put Deacon, a non-wolf away.

I don't understand your reasoning here. Barkeep voted to make a tie. A tie helps the wolves.

To me it looks like Barkeep is a wolf himself and knew that me and Deacon are just villagers. It was obvious that Deacon and I were the next two to be lynched, so he decided to try to get a tie and a free wolf kill.

Or am I missing something obvious?

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Old 07-01-2005, 10:36 AM   #1181
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guess thats what I get for sleeping in this morning....
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Old 07-01-2005, 10:36 AM   #1182
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hmm, you raise a good point. If you were just a villager that would be a good stragedy
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Old 07-01-2005, 10:48 AM   #1183
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Remember the seer told us he know of 2 people who were human other than myself.

1. Eaglesfan27
2. Neuqua
3. Airhog

Those 3 people obviously can be eaten tonight. Im not trying to make a case for not eating me. But remember we still have at least 1 special role,the bodyguard. There is only 4 people then that could be wolves.

1. Denudo - Has had a history of voting for the wolves. The only vote he made that didnt result in an evil role was qwikshot in round 4

2. KevinNu7 - I have always figured that he wouldnt get to play the werewolf twice in a row. His voting pattern seems to suggest that.

3. Kwhit - He flew under the radar up until the whole Jon debacle. He did vote for swaggs. But if I knew one of my wolf buddies was gonna be eatin, I might vote him off to. I need to check when he voted, if it was late or early though, that could be a decided factor on if I vote him next time.

4. Mustang - He has only actually voted to get rid of lathum and swaggs. All of his other votes were for people that were lynched that round. If he is the wolf, he has played a most brillant game.
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Old 07-01-2005, 10:50 AM   #1184
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So it looks to me like there is 1, maybe 2 more wolves. If that is the case we will be down to 6 villagers after this night. and 4 after the next night. I think we have some breathing room, unless there are 3 wolves still.
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Old 07-01-2005, 10:51 AM   #1185
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I don't understand your reasoning here. Barkeep voted to make a tie. A tie helps the wolves.

To me it looks like Barkeep is a wolf himself and knew that me and Deacon are just villagers. It was obvious that Deacon and I were the next two to be lynched, so he decided to try to get a tie and a free wolf kill.

Or am I missing something obvious?



Yes, the seer viewed barkeep way back when I called him out in round 2. He stated he wasn't a wolf, and I have no reason to believe that the Seer would lie. Do wolves have such short memories?
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Old 07-01-2005, 11:12 AM   #1186
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So it looks to me like there is 1, maybe 2 more wolves. If that is the case we will be down to 6 villagers after this night. and 4 after the next night. I think we have some breathing room, unless there are 3 wolves still.

No.. I'm not suggesting Airhog is this .. but, could you imagine if next game you started combining roles like a Cursed Duke or a Hunter Seer? THAT would be a paranoid game....
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Old 07-01-2005, 11:19 AM   #1187
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So why did I tie it up? Because I thought it more likely that KWhitt was a wolf than ntn. That proved to be right. I had hoped that one of the ntn voters would have switched their vote. I think if we hadn't been rushing to try and finish before the weekend that could have happened.

Besides the fact that the seer saw my previous incarnation, a tie helps the wolves less than having an innocent villager killed if there is a no kill.

Hopefully the game does not end tonight.
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Old 07-01-2005, 11:24 AM   #1188
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Remember the seer told us he know of 2 people who were human other than myself.

1. Eaglesfan27
2. Neuqua
3. Airhog

Those 3 people obviously can be eaten tonight. Im not trying to make a case for not eating me. But remember we still have at least 1 special role,the bodyguard. There is only 4 people then that could be wolves.

1. Denudo - Has had a history of voting for the wolves. The only vote he made that didnt result in an evil role was qwikshot in round 4

2. KevinNu7 - I have always figured that he wouldnt get to play the werewolf twice in a row. His voting pattern seems to suggest that.

3. Kwhit - He flew under the radar up until the whole Jon debacle. He did vote for swaggs. But if I knew one of my wolf buddies was gonna be eatin, I might vote him off to. I need to check when he voted, if it was late or early though, that could be a decided factor on if I vote him next time.

4. Mustang - He has only actually voted to get rid of lathum and swaggs. All of his other votes were for people that were lynched that round. If he is the wolf, he has played a most brillant game.

An additional possibility, however remote, is that one of the viewed, was actually cursed and attacked, not Jon.

However, the person with a big blinking sign over his head that says I'm a werewolf is KWhit. Look beyond the vote to the initial accusation posts. He comes to Lathum's defense and accuses NTNDeacon. He had also tried to bring up deacon's name in a previous post, prior to Jon's accusation of Lathum. Since deacon is now known as a villager, that puts additional condemnation on him. I stupidly switched my vote for deacon, when I knew that KWhit is a werewolf.

Should I be eaten tonight, I would hope that everyone will see the obvious the next time around.

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Old 07-01-2005, 11:37 AM   #1189
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Well, lets get this ball rolling, even if none of us has been eatin yet.

I vote Kwhit

I guess if I die tonight this vote doesnt count
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Old 07-01-2005, 11:38 AM   #1190
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This shows the votes of everyone still alive, and not a wolf. Remember, if someone is the cursed, they wont know it, and they wont know who the wolves are. So, in the event that one of the villagers is cursed, their voting pattern not helpful.


Red = Wolf
Yellow = Those who knew who the wolfs were

PlayerRound 1Round 1Round 1 F.Round 2Round 3Round 3 F.Round 4Round 4 F.Round 5 F.Round 6Round 6 F.Round 7
DesnudoDesnudoAirhogAirhogAirhogCondorsCondorsbrianDlathumSwaggsKwhit
KevinNU7KevinNU7AirhogAirhogAirhogQwikshotQwikshotKWHITSwaggsntndeacon
KwhitKwhitNomythsNomythsAirhogBrianDjonswaggsntndeacon
LathumLathumAirhogAirhogAirhogQwikshotQwikshoteaglesfan27eaglesfan27jonDEADDEADDEAD
MustangMustangAirhogNomythsAirhogCondorsCondorsntndeaconntndeaconlathumswaggsntndeacon
SwaggsSwaggsAirhogQwikshotQwikshotDesnudojonntndeaconKwhitDEAD
QwikshotQwikshotShortyShortyNeuquaEaglesfan27Eaglesfan27DEADDEADDEADDEADDEADDEAD
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Old 07-01-2005, 11:45 AM   #1191
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Yes, the seer viewed barkeep way back when I called him out in round 2. He stated he wasn't a wolf, and I have no reason to believe that the Seer would lie.

There have been 3 no-kill nights if you count the first night. Jon says that he viewed Nequa on the second night. He could be the cursed and now a werewolf.

The tie vote was very strange to me. Especially when he said at the time that:

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So I guess I'm the last one, huh? And I'm not really convinced of either person's guilt. I guess there is slightly more reason for Kwhitt than ntn, though.

Is "slightly more reason" enough to risk a tie? I wouldn't have risked the tie unless I was really sure, which he obviously wasn't. Unless he's the wolf.
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Old 07-01-2005, 12:26 PM   #1192
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Most of you sleep uneasily tonight, not sure what will happen next after the lynching of yet another villager. The day dawns at well below freezing and it doesn't look like it will get much warmer, snow is piling up outside the manor. You gather in the main room, count heads, then count your blessings. No one was killed last night.

Day 8

Jon - killed on Night 7 (seer)
Swaggs - Lynched on Day 6 (werewolf)
TazFTW - Lynched on Day 2 (villager)
NoMyths - killed on Night 5 (Sorceror)
Qwikshot - Lynched on Day 3 (Cultist)
ntndeacon - lynched on Day 7 (Villager)
McSweeny - killed on Night 3 (Witness)
Shorty - Lynched on Day 1 (villager)
BrianD - lynched on Day 4 (Doctor)
Condors - killed by the Hunter on Night 4 (Villager)
GWB - killed on Night 4 (Hunter)
Lathum - Lynched Day 5 (Werewolf)

Survivors:

Airhog - Duke
Barkeep49
KevinNU7
Mustang
Desnudo
Eaglesfan
Kwhit


Let's get those votes in as quickly as we can.
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Old 07-01-2005, 12:31 PM   #1193
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Old 07-01-2005, 12:47 PM   #1194
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I will say this again though

I vote Khwit
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Old 07-01-2005, 12:53 PM   #1195
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Okay, the final vote is:

ntndeacon - 5 (Airhog, Kwhit, KevinNU7, Desnudo, Mustang)

Kwhit - 3 (ntndeacon, eaglesfan, barkeep)


You string ntndeacon up with ruthless efficiency, despite his protests to the end. Valid protests, since he was an innocent villager!

Just wanted to say that I don't feel so bad about my death now. I had been pushing for, and nearly got, a lynching for ntndeacon. It didn't really matter which of us died since both options were bad.
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Old 07-01-2005, 12:56 PM   #1196
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I will say this again though

I vote Khwit

Hmmm...seems to be some strong evidence that Kwhit is an innocent villager.
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Old 07-01-2005, 12:57 PM   #1197
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Yes I know my track record has been pretty bad here. But I dont think anyone elses has been much better
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Old 07-01-2005, 12:59 PM   #1198
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Yes I know my track record has been pretty bad here. But I dont think anyone elses has been much better

See that's the thing that sucks. I'm getting lynched because I've been wrong with some votes. But we've all had the same problem.

You guys are wrong again.

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Old 07-01-2005, 01:05 PM   #1199
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Looks like the party is winding down...

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Old 07-01-2005, 01:05 PM   #1200
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Well when there is only 4 people to choose from, you dont have much choice....
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