03-06-2013, 03:51 PM | #1151 |
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03-06-2013, 03:55 PM | #1153 |
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03-06-2013, 03:56 PM | #1154 | |
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I might not have been clear above -- I'm throwing out the idea that ntn approached fontisian clearly knowing her role. Her description of her role was a bit different than Lathum's and brits -- it was that she got to make one kill attempt during the game and if the conditions were correct it would be successful -- not necessarily that if she happened to just run into her nemesis that they would die. So if ntn's ability (I don't remember what it was offhand) would have helped check fontisian out -- and based on her info thought that he could approach safely -- he might have done so. See the difference? I don't think it is likely, just want to surmise if it was possible. I really suspect a wolf kill here to get us to lynch a non-murderer today. Especially after this exact thing happened with a Big Six character yesterday.
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03-06-2013, 03:56 PM | #1155 | |
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03-06-2013, 03:57 PM | #1156 |
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To be clear -- I do not like it at all that he has not given us who he scanned. But it is irrelevent to the point of whether he is actually a seer or not.
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03-06-2013, 03:58 PM | #1157 |
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03-06-2013, 03:58 PM | #1158 |
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03-06-2013, 04:00 PM | #1159 | |
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With the warning up front by CW about the bloodbath potential I would expect deaths nightly by whatever means the bastard thought up.
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03-06-2013, 04:01 PM | #1160 | ||
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Unless ntn wasn't paying attention at all, I don't think this was the case: Quote:
font isn't a male character, so why would ntn choose to visit her? |
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03-06-2013, 04:01 PM | #1161 |
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Four kills in two nights not enough for you guys? Okay, I'll make sure things get ratcheted up a notch tonight.
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03-06-2013, 04:04 PM | #1162 |
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03-06-2013, 04:05 PM | #1163 |
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Did NTN offer up what his role was? I don't think he did.
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03-06-2013, 04:09 PM | #1165 | |
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Thanks JAG, appreciate that -- I had forgotten what ntn's ability was and hadn't had a chance to go back and check yet.
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03-06-2013, 04:12 PM | #1166 | |
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Who says Font became a murderer intentionally? |
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03-06-2013, 04:12 PM | #1167 | |
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Agree now, and ntn is not the kind of player to not know what is going on. Theory busted. So were still down to a candidate that seems too easy to be true and an uncontested seer that hasn't hit anything in two whole days and for some god-unknown reason thinks it's a good idea to keep quiet on his scan last night. Ugh.
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03-06-2013, 04:13 PM | #1168 |
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I thought it was a good hypothesis actually, as I had forgotten what his role was when I went back to look it up. So now I'm just back to being confused as to why font would play things the way she has, but not really having a better explanation for what happened last night.
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03-06-2013, 04:13 PM | #1169 |
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03-06-2013, 04:21 PM | #1171 | |
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The only viable reason I can think of is the It's So Obvious They'll Never Think It's True theory. I think she's good enough to play that angle. I just don't know that she's doing it this game.
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03-06-2013, 04:25 PM | #1172 |
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I guess Brit is holding his "scan" in his pocket as a get out of lynch free card. That doesn't buy him any trust or goodwill as far as I can see
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03-06-2013, 04:25 PM | #1173 |
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Well I am about to leave and I am not sure if I will be back before deadline so I need to place a vote. I am leaning towards there being a better chance that Font was converted last night then ntn just being a second night kill.
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03-06-2013, 04:27 PM | #1174 | |
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I am not sure he has been on since everyone has been pushing for him to reveal his scan but he should reveal who it was. I also don't think it is going to matter who he scanned he is going to get votes no matter what. |
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03-06-2013, 04:29 PM | #1175 |
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There is no scenario where I'm going to vote for an uncontested seer so if we end up with these as the choices I'll likely go fontesian, but I'm kind of casting about for a viable alternative.
As is pretty obvious.
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03-06-2013, 04:30 PM | #1176 |
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I'm struggling to understand the logic there. Is the thought that a fake seer/wolf britrock is more likely to leave ntn alive? I would have thought the exact opposite
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03-06-2013, 04:34 PM | #1177 |
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nobody is going to counter his character, there's no way to counter his "seer" claim. which, mind you, he revealed with 3 minutes before deadline night 1 and has been not very helpful since then.
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03-06-2013, 04:35 PM | #1178 |
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03-06-2013, 04:43 PM | #1179 | |
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If he is not the seer than someone else is. And they would have scanned him last night. I don't get why you have been gung-ho on him since the start of the game. Yes, he needs to be clearer. But a seer not finding anyone in two scans shouldn't be a big red flag to anyone. Hell, I've gone an entire game as a seer and not hit anything. Which says more about my own lack of ability but just saying.
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03-06-2013, 04:44 PM | #1180 |
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And, if as you say nobody is going to counter his character, then he IS the seer and for god's sakes why the hell would we want to hang him?
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03-06-2013, 04:45 PM | #1182 | |
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its not that he hasn't found anyone, it's that he hasn't said who he was scanned at all in 2 nights. also, please point out where he specifically spelled out that he can search for murderers. He may have said it but I can't find it. I read his "reveal" as simply the same as the other revealed Big 6ers abilities in that they are searching for their counterpart. |
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03-06-2013, 04:46 PM | #1183 |
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CW was very clear that regular WW roles would not be in this game. I don't think we necessarily have a seer. Nothing I've seen in the roles I know so far seems to suggest otherwise |
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03-06-2013, 04:46 PM | #1185 | |
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I think if there was one kill, of NTN, this wuld be simpler. I'd assume someone was trying to clear cleared characters, maybe Brit was trying ot make himself look good. The wrinkle is the second kill. We don't know whether there's any way for there to be a second kill outside of a Big 6 kill (though I suspect there probably is). So we have to lean heavily towards Font having gotten lucky with NTN, since we don't know any other reason for Hoops to also have died. The thing is, if Font is/was good the wolves would have no way of knowing they were setting Font up by killing NTN. If Brit is a real seer, I'm not sure that they kill NTN and make him look good. Why not leave him even more suspicious. If Brit is a wolf, they kill NTN to make it look like the wolves believe in him. Either way I don't think the wolves necessarily kill Brit, who could become a wolf any night (if he's not one). |
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03-06-2013, 04:48 PM | #1189 | |
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There are certainly roles in this game that are regular WW roles. There may be a twist or two, but the basic archetypes are in this game.
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This game is making my head blow up. There is so much going on I can't keep track.
Here is the only condition I move off Brit... he tells us who he investigated!
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03-06-2013, 04:49 PM | #1192 |
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I will support what Path said.
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03-06-2013, 04:51 PM | #1193 | |
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This makes sense and makes me somewhat hopeful we might even be wolf-wolf tonight. |
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03-06-2013, 04:51 PM | #1194 | |
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Oh shit, now I've gotta post hunt? I read his reveal as a seer. Obviously we disagree. He did say he scanned ntn as clear night one per my notes. I don't think I imagined that but who knows.
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Also, do not expect roles to be the normal WW roles. There are a few similarities, but for the most part, they are weird.
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03-06-2013, 04:55 PM | #1197 |
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I think the "types" that are in this game are those that can "search" someone and become a wolf if they find someone... that is a big "twist" from searching and subsequently announcing a wolf.
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I take the "one scan" comment to refer to the fact that he thinks he is gonna get whacked. YMMV.
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03-06-2013, 04:56 PM | #1200 |
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One helps the village (traditional seer) and the other screws us (Britrock88)!!!
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