Werewolf CLX - Atlantic City - GAME OVER - Page 24

JAG · 05-01-2013, 10:07 PM

I'll be surprised if Mau isn't the last mobster based mostly on his comments today. I also take myself back to the first day when he bid on and won the money transfer. Why would any villager bid on that the first day when you have no idea of any trusted person to send money? Without knowing the restrictions on the mafia pooling their money, there could've been an actual use for it though.

mauchow · 05-01-2013, 10:17 PM

You're wrong but I don't blame you. We'll figure it out in the morning. It will be a lot more clear if it plays out how I know it will.

Narcizo · 05-02-2013, 01:40 AM

Hohum. Thought it would be too easy. The worry now is that there is some sort of hidden mechanic that someone has been hiding behind - along the lines of the wolf being able to make two bids one day or Path's use of the night kill leading to a conversion. But we can let loose the hounds of paranoia after today (tomorrow in reality), where the obvious candidates are Path and mau.

Mau if you're a villager then you screwed up not getting your bid in. I get the feeling that you're fishing to be scanned, in which case I hope Jackal scans Path. Perhaps using the third black market service meant that a wolf could pick a free service from all the ones that have been out there and the wolf picked cunning.

Yes the hounds of paranoia are already straining at the leash.

Narcizo · 05-02-2013, 01:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mauchow

You're wrong but I don't blame you. We'll figure it out in the morning. It will be a lot more clear if it plays out how I know it will.

So why DID you bid on the money transfer service mau?

Narcizo · 05-02-2013, 01:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Jackal

Bleh, sorry Brit. I guess I have to lend some credence to Narc's theory about the crooked cop lasting the whole game now, unless there was a hidden mechanism at play.

Some credence?
Some credence?

MY theory

etc etc.

Narcizo · 05-02-2013, 01:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

Forget not Narc. I don't believe he has been scanned either. Admittedly, I'm biased due to him repeatedly calling me out.

Yoda you speak like.

If it's any consolation I trust you now Coffee. My righteous certainty has moved onto another target.

Narcizo · 05-02-2013, 02:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mauchow

I'd rather have had brit reveal if he could have... then he would have proved it with the gridlock and joined the cot..

Except he probably didn't know he would have caused a gridlock and everyone had voted nightfall already anyway. And no-one would have believed him.

Narcizo · 05-02-2013, 03:12 AM

DAY ONE WINNING BIDS (6 Wolves)
Donna Black Investigations - $1000 - Claimed by Chief Rum, cleared JAG
Cookie's Ladies - $277 - Claimed by JAG, used on Brit
Casino2Casino Wire Transfer - $27 - Claimed by mauchow

BLACKMARKET SERVICES - HIRE AT YOUR OWN RISK
The Money Hole - $402 -
Joe "Creaky" Reitzler - $350 - Claimed by Jackal used on fontisian

DAY TWO WINNING BIDS (5 Wolves)
Mick "Stones" McGee - $800 - Claimed by JAG, used on self
Donna Black Investigations - $1100 Claimed by Zinto, cleared Jackal
Freddie von Maur, Casino Manager - $160 Claimed by Path, won over $2000

BLACKMARKET SERVICES - HIRE AT YOUR OWN RISK
Joe "Creaky" Reitzler - $1000 Claimed by ?

DAY THREE WINNING BIDS (5 Wolves)
Mick "Stones" McGee - $380 Claimed by JAG, used on Self
Donna Black Investigations - $1,000 Claimed by Narcizo, cleared DV
Cookie's Ladies - $350 Claimed by mauchow used on DaddyTorgo
Friends4Life Dating Service - $1,000 claimed by Brit, used on Jackal

BLACKMARKET SERVICES - HIRE AT YOUR OWN RISK
The Money Hole - $500
Joe "Creaky" Reitzler, hitman - $1,100
"Stumpy" Jones, thug - $111 claimed by ? used on murra5y
Trayvon Michaels, crooked cop - $2 claimed by ? used on Brit

DAY FOUR WINNING BIDS (3 Wolves can bid)
Mick "Stones" McGee - $1,026
Donna Black Investigations - $800 - Claimed by mau used on Zinto

BLACKMARKET SERVICES - HIRE AT YOUR OWN RISK
Joe "Creaky" Reitzler, hitman - $1,000 - Claimed by Coffee Warlord, used on murra5y

DAY FIVE WINNING BIDS (3 wolves)
Mick "Stones" McGee - $500
Donna Black Investigations - $896 - Claimed by mau, used on Zinto
Casino2Casino Wire Transfer - $125 . Claimed by narcizo, used with
Freddie von Maur, Casino Manager - $700

BLACK MARKET SERVICES - HIRE AT YOUR OWN RISK
Joe "Creaky" Reitzler, hitman - $501
Mikhail Vavilov, arms dealer - $1,066

DAY SIX WINNING BIDS (2 wolves)
Mick "Stones" McGee - $1,066 - Claimed by Jackal, used on self
Donna Black Investigations - $900 - Claimed by DV, used on Britrock

BLACK MARKET SERVICES - HIRE AT YOUR OWN RISK
Jamie Monteray, hitman - $3,412 - Claimed by Path, used on murra5y

DAY SEVEN WINNING BIDS (1 wolf)
Mick "Stones" McGee - $2 - Claimed by Chief Rum
Donna Black Investigations - $5 - Claimed by Jackal
Cookie's Ladies - $1 - Claimed by Coffee
Sandy Back Messenger Service - $3 - Claimed by Narcizo

BLACK MARKET SERVICES - HIRE AT YOUR OWN RISK
Nicky the Trigger, hitman - $100 -

Narcizo · 05-02-2013, 03:16 AM

Gah I was going to embolden (sic) the days to make it look better.

Narcizo · 05-02-2013, 03:17 AM

I'm guessing that we think 7 starting wolves is too many, right? 9:7 seems a bit steep for the village to climb when the stupid hitman won't take out wolves.

Narcizo · 05-02-2013, 03:26 AM

Does anyone want to claim the services on day five. Particularly interested in the Casino Manager and how much money they won on that. Day Five there was murra5y, zinto and AN Other left. Seems safe to say that Zinto didn't get the arms dealer, murra5y might have. The problem I see is that mau won a service on that day. If he's a wolf and there's no shenanighans then the village must have got the casino manager and bodyguard. If one of those isn't claimed then it suggests that mau is villager. Path claimed that he bid on the arms dealer so it wasn't him.

Incidentally I used the money transfer on that day to move a sum of money to someone else.

Narcizo · 05-02-2013, 03:42 AM

Looking at everything I think Path is the baddy. Both mau and Path had votes on fonti on day one but Path moved his off pretty quickly. Path killing murra5y helps his team much more than mau outing Zinto does. I'm surprised he bid on the killer though. Maybe he hoped people wouldn't bet on the services assigned to them. Maybe he realised his goose was cooked and wanted to take someone down with him.

Narcizo · 05-02-2013, 03:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Autumn

RULES

Besides eliminating the village, the goal of each family will be to eliminate the other either through death or by giving them an offer they cannot refuse.

Aha! That would be what happened to Danny then.

Narcizo · 05-02-2013, 03:49 AM

Day One

#103 11:13 mauchow votes fontisian (1)
#104 00:40 path12 votes Zinto (1)
#105 07:58 narcizo votes britrock (1)
#114 09:40 Jackal votes Coffee (1)
#133 13:57 Coffee votes DaddyTorgo (1)
#134 14:25 JAG votes Coffee (2)
#136 15:45 Bullet votes JAG (1)
#138 16:01 fontisian votes Bullet (1)
#140 16:11 Darth Vilus votes JAG (2)
#142 16:51 Path unvotes Zinto (0), votes Bullet (2)
#144 16:53 InBlue votes JAG (3)
#145 16:56 Chief votes Bullet (3)
#146 17:18 Brit votes DaddyTorgo (2)
#152 19:07 Zinto votes DaddyTorgo (3)
#155 19:49 DaddyTorgo votes Coffee (3)
#163 20:16 Danny votes Coffee (4)
#178 20:32 murra5y votes JAG (4)
#184 20:40 InBlue unvotes JAG (3), Votes DaddyTorgo (4)
#191 20:46 JAG unvotes Coffee (3), votes Bullet (4)
#193 20:52 DaddyTorgo unvotes Coffee (2), votes Bullet (5)

1 Fontisian -------- mauchow (103)
1 Britrock88 ------- narcizo (105)
2 Coffee Warlord - The Jackal (114), danny (163)
4 DaddyTorgo ----- Coffee Warlord (133), britrock88 (146), zinto (153), Inblue (184)
3 JAG -------------- bulletsponge (136), Darth Vilus (140), murrayyy (178)
5 bulletsponge ---- fontisian (138), path12 (142), chief rum (145), JAG (191), daddytorgo (193)

Narcizo · 05-02-2013, 03:51 AM

Day Two

#247 13:19 mauchow votes murra5y (1)
#253 14:10 murra5y votes mau (1)
#261 14:56 Narcizo votes mau (2)
#262 15:04 JAG votes Darth Vilus (1)
#264 15:10 mauchow unvotes murra5y (0), votes DV (2)
#269 15:25 JAG unvotes DV (1), votes murra5y (1)
#274 15:53 Coffee votes Danny (1)
#275 15:54 path votes mau (3)
#298 18:45 DV votes mau (4)
#301 18:52 murra5y unvotes mau (3), votes path (1)
#302 18:53 fontisian votes DV (2)

JAG reveal

#304 19:02 JAG unvotes murra5y (0), votes Britrock (1)
#306 19:11 fontisian unvotes DV (1), votes Britrock (2)
#309 19:24 Coffee unvotes Danny (0), votes DV (2)

Jackal reveal

#311 19:25 Jackal votes fontisian (1)
#314 19:30 Coffee unvotes DV (1), votes fontisian (2)
#316 19:34 Zinto votes fontisian (3)
#317 19:34 murra5y unvotes Path (0), votes fontisian (4)
#320 19:40 mau unvotes DV (0), votes fontisian (5)
#324 19:44 Chief votes fontisian (6)
#331 20:03 InBlue votes Britrock (3)
#333 20:05 Danny votes Britrock (4)
#343 20:56 DaddyTorgo votes Britrock (5)

3 Mauchow ------- narcizo (261), path12 (275), darth vilus (298)
5 britrock88 ------ JAG (304), fontisian (306), InBlue (331), danny (333), daddy torgo (343)
6 fontisian -------- The Jackal (311), coffee warlord (314), zinto (316), murrayyyyy (317), mauchow (320), chief rum (324)

Narcizo · 05-02-2013, 03:53 AM

Day Three

#401 09:18 Narcizo votes InBlue (1)
#423 10:00 Jackal votes murra5y (1)
#436 10:36 murra5y votes Zinto (1)
#437 10:42 JAG votes DaddyTorgo (1)
#451 12:35 path votes murra5y (2)
#452 12:45 Chief votes Brit (1)
#457 13:20 Coffee votes DV (1)
#461 14:00 mauchow votres Brit (2)
#469 14:13 path unvotes murra5y (1), votes DaddyTorgo (2)
#477 15:22 Narcizo unvotes InBlue (0), vote DaddyTorgo (3)
#482 16:13 Brit votes DaddyTorgo (4)

#483 17:02 InBlue votes Brit (3)
#485 17:21 Coffee unvotes DV, votes Brit (4)
#486 17:38 Jackal unvotes murra5y (0)
#490 18:45 Danny votes Brit (5)
#499 20:19 Jackal votes Brit (6)
#501 20:22 DaddyTorgo votes Brit (7)

#502 20:28 JAG unvotes DaddyTorgo (3), votes InBlue (1)
#511 20:46 murra5y unvotes Zinto (0), votes InBlue (2)
#513 20:47 Brit unvotes DaddyTorgo (2), votes InBlue (3)
#516 20:52 Coffee unvotes Brit (6), votes InBlue (4)
#522 20:54 Zinto votes InBlue (5)
#526 20:55 Jackal unvotes Brit (5), votes InBlue (6)
#537 20:59 Chief Rum unvotes Brit (4), votes InBlue (7)

2 DaddyTorgo -- path12 (469), Narcizo (477)
4 Britrock88 ----- mauchow (461), InBlue (483), danny (490), daddy torgo (501)
7 InBlue - JAG (502), murrayyyy (511), britrock88 (513), coffee warlord (516), Zinto (522), the jackal (526), chief rum (537)

Narcizo · 05-02-2013, 03:54 AM

Day 4

#636 09:56 Narcizo votes DaddyTorgo (1)
#645 10:31 path12 votes DaddyTorgo (2)
#651 11:20 mauchow votes DaddyTorgo (3)
#673 13:12 Danny votes DaddyTorgo (4)
#674 13:16 Chief Rum votes britrock (1)
#680 14:36 JAG votes Zinto (1)
#688 15:28 The Jackal votes DaddyTorgo (5)
#694 15:38 JAG unvotes Zinto (0), votes britrock (2)
#706 16:53 Coffee Warlord votes DaddyTorgo (6)
#712 18:43 DV votes Coffee Warlord (1)
#713 19:20 Zinto votes britrock (3)
#714 19:28 DaddyTorgo votes britrock (4)
#725 20:43 JAG unvotes britrock (3), votes DaddyTorgo (7)

7 DaddyTorgo -- Narcizo (636). path12 (645), mauchow (651), Danny (673), The Jackal (688), Coffee Warlord (706), JAG (725)
3 Britrock88 ----- Chief Rum (674), Zinto (713), DaddyTorgo (714)

Narcizo · 05-02-2013, 03:55 AM

Of course most people would just wait until the night results before all this.

But I want to try and work it out beforehand.

JAG · 05-02-2013, 05:03 AM

I can see the case for path too. As long as it's one of them I'll be happy.

As I said yesterday, I won the BG every day other than when it wasn't bid on and when Jackal won it (and not yesterday obviously)

JAG · 05-02-2013, 05:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Narcizo

Does anyone want to claim the services on day five. Particularly interested in the Casino Manager and how much money they won on that. Day Five there was murra5y, zinto and AN Other left. Seems safe to say that Zinto didn't get the arms dealer, murra5y might have. The problem I see is that mau won a service on that day. If he's a wolf and there's no shenanighans then the village must have got the casino manager and bodyguard. If one of those isn't claimed then it suggests that mau is villager. Path claimed that he bid on the arms dealer so it wasn't him.

Incidentally I used the money transfer on that day to move a sum of money to someone else.

Sorry, the day in question you're talking about is when Jackal won the BG. I bid only $200. Path claims he lost the arms dealer bid. I agree that everyone should put all their bids on the table now because that's a good point about Mau there.

JAG · 05-02-2013, 05:24 AM

JAG

D1 - bid $277 on Cookies (won), won $509 on bullet/Britrock lynch
D2 - bid $800 on BG (won), lost Britrock bet
D3 - bid $380 on BG (won), won $1361 on InBlue/DT bet
D4 - bid $1026 on BG (won), lost bet on DV/path12/murra5y
D5 - bid $200 on BG (lost), won $679 on murra5y/Danny
D6 - bid $1066 on BG (won), won $896 on murra5y/Zinto
D7 - no bid, lost bet on Mau/CR

JAG · 05-02-2013, 05:30 AM

Narc, D4 should be path scanning Danny instead of Mau scanning Zinto.

Narcizo · 05-02-2013, 05:49 AM

You've won lots of bets right there.

Narcizo · 05-02-2013, 05:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JAG

Narc, D4 should be path scanning Danny instead of Mau scanning Zinto.

Aha. I forgot about that. If the LV mob didn't know that Danny had turned then LV Path would want to out him.

Narcizo · 05-02-2013, 05:59 AM

Bets
d1 - Britrock
d2 - Zinto and Coffee
d3 - InBlue - $2721 won
d4 - DV and DT - $273 won
d5 - murra5y and mauchow
d6 - murra5y and zinto $896 won
d7 - forgot to bet

Bids
d1 - $1000 on the seer
d2 - forgot to bid
d3 - $1000 spent on the seer
d4 - $675 on the seer
d5 - $125 spent on the money transfer
d6 - $698 on the seer
d7 - $3 spent on messenger service

Narcizo · 05-02-2013, 06:09 AM

Changed to actually be, you know, true.

DAY ONE WINNING BIDS (6 Wolves)
Donna Black Investigations - $1000 - Claimed by Chief Rum, cleared JAG
Cookie's Ladies - $277 - Claimed by JAG, used on Brit
Casino2Casino Wire Transfer - $27 - Claimed by mauchow

BLACKMARKET SERVICES - HIRE AT YOUR OWN RISK
The Money Hole - $402 -
Joe "Creaky" Reitzler - $350 - Claimed by Jackal used on fontisian

DAY TWO WINNING BIDS (5 Wolves)
Mick "Stones" McGee - $800 - Claimed by JAG, used on self
Donna Black Investigations - $1100 Claimed by Zinto, cleared Jackal
Freddie von Maur, Casino Manager - $160 Claimed by Path, won "over $2000"

BLACKMARKET SERVICES - HIRE AT YOUR OWN RISK
Joe "Creaky" Reitzler - $1000 -

DAY THREE WINNING BIDS (5 Wolves)
Mick "Stones" McGee - $380 Claimed by JAG, used on Self
Donna Black Investigations - $1,000 Claimed by Narcizo, cleared DV
Cookie's Ladies - $350 Claimed by mauchow, used on DaddyTorgo
Friends4Life Dating Service - $1,000 claimed by Brit, used on Jackal

BLACKMARKET SERVICES - HIRE AT YOUR OWN RISK
The Money Hole - $500
Joe "Creaky" Reitzler, hitman - $1,100
"Stumpy" Jones, thug - $111 bought by LV (presumably) used on murra5y
Trayvon Michaels, crooked cop - $2 used on Brit

DAY FOUR WINNING BIDS (3 Wolves can bid)
Mick "Stones" McGee - $1,026 Claimed by JAG, used on self
Donna Black Investigations - $800 - Claimed by Path, used on Danny

BLACKMARKET SERVICES - HIRE AT YOUR OWN RISK
Joe "Creaky" Reitzler, hitman - $1,000 - Claimed by Coffee Warlord, used on murra5y

DAY FIVE WINNING BIDS (3 wolves)
Mick "Stones" McGee - $500 - Claimed by Jackal, used on self
Donna Black Investigations - $896 - Claimed by mau, used on Zinto
Casino2Casino Wire Transfer - $125 . Claimed by narcizo, used with
Freddie von Maur, Casino Manager - $700

BLACK MARKET SERVICES - HIRE AT YOUR OWN RISK
Joe "Creaky" Reitzler, hitman - $501
Mikhail Vavilov, arms dealer - $1,066

DAY SIX WINNING BIDS (2 wolves)
Mick "Stones" McGee - $1,066 - Claimed by Jag, used on self
Donna Black Investigations - $900 - Claimed by DV, used on Britrock

BLACK MARKET SERVICES - HIRE AT YOUR OWN RISK
Jamie Monteray, hitman - $3,412 - Claimed by Path, used on murra5y

DAY SEVEN WINNING BIDS (1 wolf)
Mick "Stones" McGee - $2 - Claimed by Chief Rum
Donna Black Investigations - $5 - Claimed by Jackal
Cookie's Ladies - $1 - Claimed by Coffee
Sandy Back Messenger Service - $3 - Claimed by Narcizo

BLACK MARKET SERVICES - HIRE AT YOUR OWN RISK
Nicky the Trigger, hitman - $100 -

mauchow · 05-02-2013, 06:11 AM

D1 - Wire Transfer, did not use
D2 - no bid made
D3 - cookies $350 on DT
D4 -no bid
D5 - Seer - Scanned Z
D6 - Lost on Seer bid
D7 - No bid

I have possibly helped on two fronts against both sides of mafia using ladies against DT and scanning Zinto. I deserve slightly more credit,

JAG · 05-02-2013, 06:12 AM

Quote:

DAY FIVE WINNING BIDS (3 wolves)
Mick "Stones" McGee - $500 - Claimed by Jackal, used on self
Donna Black Investigations - $896 - Claimed by mau, used on Zinto
Casino2Casino Wire Transfer - $125 . Claimed by narcizo, used with
Freddie von Maur, Casino Manager - $700

BLACK MARKET SERVICES - HIRE AT YOUR OWN RISK
Joe "Creaky" Reitzler, hitman - $501
Mikhail Vavilov, arms dealer - $1,066

So if no one claims the Casino manager that day, it would appear to have gone to a wolf and would clear Mau, Jackal, and Narc since they won other bids and the other two wolves presumably won the other two black market services. Of course if it's this easy then the game should be over after we get the night results anyway.

Narcizo · 05-02-2013, 06:13 AM

Looking at day three, it would take a small miracle for mauchow to be a wolf putting a bid in on another service when there are 4 blackmarket services taken. That means that the 2 wolf teams would have to unwittingly synchronise their bids. Seems more likely that there was double-bidding on the hitman.

JAG · 05-02-2013, 06:13 AM

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DAY FIVE WINNING BIDS (3 wolves)
Mick "Stones" McGee - $500 - Claimed by Jackal, used on self
Donna Black Investigations - $896 - Claimed by mau, used on Zinto
Casino2Casino Wire Transfer - $125 . Claimed by narcizo, used with
Freddie von Maur, Casino Manager - $700

BLACK MARKET SERVICES - HIRE AT YOUR OWN RISK
Joe "Creaky" Reitzler, hitman - $501
Mikhail Vavilov, arms dealer - $1,066

So if no one claims the Casino manager that day, it would appear to have gone to a wolf and would clear Mau, Jackal, and Narc since they won other bids and the other two wolves presumably won the other two black market services. Of course if it's this easy then the game should be over after we get the night results anyway.

Narcizo · 05-02-2013, 06:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mauchow

I have possibly helped on two fronts against both sides of mafia using ladies against DT and scanning Zinto. I deserve slightly more credit,

I believe you mau. But with my track record in this game that means you're a wolf.

JAG · 05-02-2013, 06:17 AM

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Each day each player will have the opportunity to spend their money by bidding on these services in Atlantic City. The player who bids highest will gain the use of that power that night. Players may only bid on one service per day. A player can bid any amount of money (though their bid will be capped at how much money they actually have after deadline).

Just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing anything in the rules.

Narcizo · 05-02-2013, 06:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JAG

So if no one claims the Casino manager that day, it would appear to have gone to a wolf and would clear Mau, Jackal, and Narc since they won other bids and the other two wolves presumably won the other two black market services. Of course if it's this easy then the game should be over after we get the night results anyway.

The fact that a wolf bid more on the manager than the hitman would suggest that the wolves knew how valuable the manager was (I'd been guessing that it gave an extra vote or something. Maybe it does). So Path again.

JAG · 05-02-2013, 06:20 AM

Yeah, I'm getting on board with your thinking. I guess I'm a goner tonight then.

JAG · 05-02-2013, 06:22 AM

He claimed he won over $2000 and spent $800 on the seer + $160 that we know of on the other service, but was able to spend $3400 on the hitman. Hmmm.

Narcizo · 05-02-2013, 06:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JAG

Just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing anything in the rules.

The main worry I have is that I remember the Rome game a loooong, loooong time ago. There was bidding on services in that as well and a secret exploit that the wolves had meant that (villager) Chief Rum lead the village up the garden path, without the wolves having to do much of anything.

Narcizo · 05-02-2013, 06:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JAG

He claimed he won over $2000 and spent $800 on the seer + $160 that we know of on the other service, but was able to spend $3400 on the hitman. Hmmm.

He can always claim to have won money on bets but I doubt he'll bother/get the chance.

Autumn · 05-02-2013, 07:48 AM

Bets due in 12 minutes.

Coffee Warlord · 05-02-2013, 07:51 AM

FWIW - Aside from the ladies yesterday, I only ever won 1 bid - that of the hitman.

There any particular day you guys need me to look up what I bid/lost on?

Coffee Warlord · 05-02-2013, 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JAG

So if no one claims the Casino manager that day, it would appear to have gone to a wolf and would clear Mau, Jackal, and Narc since they won other bids and the other two wolves presumably won the other two black market services. Of course if it's this easy then the game should be over after we get the night results anyway.

I bid and lost (badly) on the Casino Manager that day, as an FYI.

Autumn · 05-02-2013, 08:00 AM

As opposed to yesterday, today everybody is up even before dawn. The tension in the air of the city is obvious as people jostle at the newstand or rush to their doorsteps to see the paper. The front page is splashed with the headline: MURDER IN ATLANTIC CITY. It appears another body has been found, peppered with bullets in the trashed remains of his apartment. The gambler you knew as JAG has been found murdered.

Day 8 has begun.

JAG · 05-02-2013, 08:03 AM

Bring it home village.

Autumn · 05-02-2013, 08:04 AM

Here are the services available today in the city of casinos.

Quote:

DAY EIGHT SERVICES FOR HIRE

All Legal Services Suspended Due to Media Gridlock

BLACK MARKET SERVICES - HIRE AT YOUR OWN RISK
The Money Hole - money lending for the desperate gambler
Nicky the Trigger, hitman - they say that Nicky will make a guy disappear for you
"Smiling Jane" Smith, thief - her light fingers will dip in someone's wallet for you

Narcizo · 05-02-2013, 08:09 AM

Well now we wait for Jackal to tell us if this game is about to get crazy, or if its about to be over.

The Jackal · 05-02-2013, 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Narcizo

Does anyone want to claim the services on day five. Particularly interested in the Casino Manager and how much money they won on that. Day Five there was murra5y, zinto and AN Other left. Seems safe to say that Zinto didn't get the arms dealer, murra5y might have. The problem I see is that mau won a service on that day. If he's a wolf and there's no shenanighans then the village must have got the casino manager and bodyguard. If one of those isn't claimed then it suggests that mau is villager. Path claimed that he bid on the arms dealer so it wasn't him.

Incidentally I used the money transfer on that day to move a sum of money to someone else.

I won Mick for $500 on D5, not D6

Narcizo · 05-02-2013, 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JAG

Bring it home village.

Unfortunately you've assured yourself early deaths in the next few games as a villager. And early seer scans in games you're a wolf. Danny will be pleased.

Narcizo · 05-02-2013, 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Jackal

I won Mick for $500 on D5, not D6

Yes, that is what we're all waiting to hear Jackal.

The Jackal · 05-02-2013, 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Narcizo

Well now we wait for Jackal to tell us if this game is about to get crazy, or if its about to be over.

According to Donna's surveillance, path is clean.

Narcizo · 05-02-2013, 08:13 AM

Damn.

Narcizo · 05-02-2013, 08:14 AM

Crazy it is then.

05-01-2013, 10:07 PM	#1151
JAG Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: St. Paul, MN	I'll be surprised if Mau isn't the last mobster based mostly on his comments today. I also take myself back to the first day when he bid on and won the money transfer. Why would any villager bid on that the first day when you have no idea of any trusted person to send money? Without knowing the restrictions on the mafia pooling their money, there could've been an actual use for it though.

05-01-2013, 10:17 PM	#1152
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	You're wrong but I don't blame you. We'll figure it out in the morning. It will be a lot more clear if it plays out how I know it will.

05-02-2013, 01:40 AM	#1153
Narcizo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006	Hohum. Thought it would be too easy. The worry now is that there is some sort of hidden mechanic that someone has been hiding behind - along the lines of the wolf being able to make two bids one day or Path's use of the night kill leading to a conversion. But we can let loose the hounds of paranoia after today (tomorrow in reality), where the obvious candidates are Path and mau. Mau if you're a villager then you screwed up not getting your bid in. I get the feeling that you're fishing to be scanned, in which case I hope Jackal scans Path. Perhaps using the third black market service meant that a wolf could pick a free service from all the ones that have been out there and the wolf picked cunning. Yes the hounds of paranoia are already straining at the leash.

05-02-2013, 03:12 AM	#1158
Narcizo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006	DAY ONE WINNING BIDS (6 Wolves) Donna Black Investigations - $1000 - Claimed by Chief Rum, cleared JAG Cookie's Ladies - $277 - Claimed by JAG, used on Brit Casino2Casino Wire Transfer - $27 - Claimed by mauchow BLACKMARKET SERVICES - HIRE AT YOUR OWN RISK The Money Hole - $402 - Joe "Creaky" Reitzler - $350 - Claimed by Jackal used on fontisian DAY TWO WINNING BIDS (5 Wolves) Mick "Stones" McGee - $800 - Claimed by JAG, used on self Donna Black Investigations - $1100 Claimed by Zinto, cleared Jackal Freddie von Maur, Casino Manager - $160 Claimed by Path, won over $2000 BLACKMARKET SERVICES - HIRE AT YOUR OWN RISK Joe "Creaky" Reitzler - $1000 Claimed by ? DAY THREE WINNING BIDS (5 Wolves) Mick "Stones" McGee - $380 Claimed by JAG, used on Self Donna Black Investigations - $1,000 Claimed by Narcizo, cleared DV Cookie's Ladies - $350 Claimed by mauchow used on DaddyTorgo Friends4Life Dating Service - $1,000 claimed by Brit, used on Jackal BLACKMARKET SERVICES - HIRE AT YOUR OWN RISK The Money Hole - $500 Joe "Creaky" Reitzler, hitman - $1,100 "Stumpy" Jones, thug - $111 claimed by ? used on murra5y Trayvon Michaels, crooked cop - $2 claimed by ? used on Brit DAY FOUR WINNING BIDS (3 Wolves can bid) Mick "Stones" McGee - $1,026 Donna Black Investigations - $800 - Claimed by mau used on Zinto BLACKMARKET SERVICES - HIRE AT YOUR OWN RISK Joe "Creaky" Reitzler, hitman - $1,000 - Claimed by Coffee Warlord, used on murra5y DAY FIVE WINNING BIDS (3 wolves) Mick "Stones" McGee - $500 Donna Black Investigations - $896 - Claimed by mau, used on Zinto Casino2Casino Wire Transfer - $125 . Claimed by narcizo, used with Freddie von Maur, Casino Manager - $700 BLACK MARKET SERVICES - HIRE AT YOUR OWN RISK Joe "Creaky" Reitzler, hitman - $501 Mikhail Vavilov, arms dealer - $1,066 DAY SIX WINNING BIDS (2 wolves) Mick "Stones" McGee - $1,066 - Claimed by Jackal, used on self Donna Black Investigations - $900 - Claimed by DV, used on Britrock BLACK MARKET SERVICES - HIRE AT YOUR OWN RISK Jamie Monteray, hitman - $3,412 - Claimed by Path, used on murra5y DAY SEVEN WINNING BIDS (1 wolf) Mick "Stones" McGee - $2 - Claimed by Chief Rum Donna Black Investigations - $5 - Claimed by Jackal Cookie's Ladies - $1 - Claimed by Coffee Sandy Back Messenger Service - $3 - Claimed by Narcizo BLACK MARKET SERVICES - HIRE AT YOUR OWN RISK Nicky the Trigger, hitman - $100 -

05-02-2013, 03:16 AM	#1159
Narcizo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006	Gah I was going to embolden (sic) the days to make it look better.

05-02-2013, 03:17 AM	#1160
Narcizo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006	I'm guessing that we think 7 starting wolves is too many, right? 9:7 seems a bit steep for the village to climb when the stupid hitman won't take out wolves.

05-02-2013, 03:26 AM	#1161
Narcizo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006	Does anyone want to claim the services on day five. Particularly interested in the Casino Manager and how much money they won on that. Day Five there was murra5y, zinto and AN Other left. Seems safe to say that Zinto didn't get the arms dealer, murra5y might have. The problem I see is that mau won a service on that day. If he's a wolf and there's no shenanighans then the village must have got the casino manager and bodyguard. If one of those isn't claimed then it suggests that mau is villager. Path claimed that he bid on the arms dealer so it wasn't him. Incidentally I used the money transfer on that day to move a sum of money to someone else.

05-02-2013, 03:42 AM	#1162
Narcizo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006	Looking at everything I think Path is the baddy. Both mau and Path had votes on fonti on day one but Path moved his off pretty quickly. Path killing murra5y helps his team much more than mau outing Zinto does. I'm surprised he bid on the killer though. Maybe he hoped people wouldn't bet on the services assigned to them. Maybe he realised his goose was cooked and wanted to take someone down with him.

05-02-2013, 03:49 AM	#1164
Narcizo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006	Day One #103 11:13 mauchow votes fontisian (1) #104 00:40 path12 votes Zinto (1) #105 07:58 narcizo votes britrock (1) #114 09:40 Jackal votes Coffee (1) #133 13:57 Coffee votes DaddyTorgo (1) #134 14:25 JAG votes Coffee (2) #136 15:45 Bullet votes JAG (1) #138 16:01 fontisian votes Bullet (1) #140 16:11 Darth Vilus votes JAG (2) #142 16:51 Path unvotes Zinto (0), votes Bullet (2) #144 16:53 InBlue votes JAG (3) #145 16:56 Chief votes Bullet (3) #146 17:18 Brit votes DaddyTorgo (2) #152 19:07 Zinto votes DaddyTorgo (3) #155 19:49 DaddyTorgo votes Coffee (3) #163 20:16 Danny votes Coffee (4) #178 20:32 murra5y votes JAG (4) #184 20:40 InBlue unvotes JAG (3), Votes DaddyTorgo (4) #191 20:46 JAG unvotes Coffee (3), votes Bullet (4) #193 20:52 DaddyTorgo unvotes Coffee (2), votes Bullet (5) 1 Fontisian -------- mauchow (103) 1 Britrock88 ------- narcizo (105) 2 Coffee Warlord - The Jackal (114), danny (163) 4 DaddyTorgo ----- Coffee Warlord (133), britrock88 (146), zinto (153), Inblue (184) 3 JAG -------------- bulletsponge (136), Darth Vilus (140), murrayyy (178) 5 bulletsponge ---- fontisian (138), path12 (142), chief rum (145), JAG (191), daddytorgo (193)

05-02-2013, 03:51 AM	#1165
Narcizo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006	Day Two #247 13:19 mauchow votes murra5y (1) #253 14:10 murra5y votes mau (1) #261 14:56 Narcizo votes mau (2) #262 15:04 JAG votes Darth Vilus (1) #264 15:10 mauchow unvotes murra5y (0), votes DV (2) #269 15:25 JAG unvotes DV (1), votes murra5y (1) #274 15:53 Coffee votes Danny (1) #275 15:54 path votes mau (3) #298 18:45 DV votes mau (4) #301 18:52 murra5y unvotes mau (3), votes path (1) #302 18:53 fontisian votes DV (2) JAG reveal #304 19:02 JAG unvotes murra5y (0), votes Britrock (1) #306 19:11 fontisian unvotes DV (1), votes Britrock (2) #309 19:24 Coffee unvotes Danny (0), votes DV (2) Jackal reveal #311 19:25 Jackal votes fontisian (1) #314 19:30 Coffee unvotes DV (1), votes fontisian (2) #316 19:34 Zinto votes fontisian (3) #317 19:34 murra5y unvotes Path (0), votes fontisian (4) #320 19:40 mau unvotes DV (0), votes fontisian (5) #324 19:44 Chief votes fontisian (6) #331 20:03 InBlue votes Britrock (3) #333 20:05 Danny votes Britrock (4) #343 20:56 DaddyTorgo votes Britrock (5) 3 Mauchow ------- narcizo (261), path12 (275), darth vilus (298) 5 britrock88 ------ JAG (304), fontisian (306), InBlue (331), danny (333), daddy torgo (343) 6 fontisian -------- The Jackal (311), coffee warlord (314), zinto (316), murrayyyyy (317), mauchow (320), chief rum (324)

05-02-2013, 03:53 AM	#1166
Narcizo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006	Day Three #401 09:18 Narcizo votes InBlue (1) #423 10:00 Jackal votes murra5y (1) #436 10:36 murra5y votes Zinto (1) #437 10:42 JAG votes DaddyTorgo (1) #451 12:35 path votes murra5y (2) #452 12:45 Chief votes Brit (1) #457 13:20 Coffee votes DV (1) #461 14:00 mauchow votres Brit (2) #469 14:13 path unvotes murra5y (1), votes DaddyTorgo (2) #477 15:22 Narcizo unvotes InBlue (0), vote DaddyTorgo (3) #482 16:13 Brit votes DaddyTorgo (4) #483 17:02 InBlue votes Brit (3) #485 17:21 Coffee unvotes DV, votes Brit (4) #486 17:38 Jackal unvotes murra5y (0) #490 18:45 Danny votes Brit (5) #499 20:19 Jackal votes Brit (6) #501 20:22 DaddyTorgo votes Brit (7) #502 20:28 JAG unvotes DaddyTorgo (3), votes InBlue (1) #511 20:46 murra5y unvotes Zinto (0), votes InBlue (2) #513 20:47 Brit unvotes DaddyTorgo (2), votes InBlue (3) #516 20:52 Coffee unvotes Brit (6), votes InBlue (4) #522 20:54 Zinto votes InBlue (5) #526 20:55 Jackal unvotes Brit (5), votes InBlue (6) #537 20:59 Chief Rum unvotes Brit (4), votes InBlue (7) 2 DaddyTorgo -- path12 (469), Narcizo (477) 4 Britrock88 ----- mauchow (461), InBlue (483), danny (490), daddy torgo (501) 7 InBlue - JAG (502), murrayyyy (511), britrock88 (513), coffee warlord (516), Zinto (522), the jackal (526), chief rum (537)

05-02-2013, 03:54 AM	#1167
Narcizo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006	Day 4 #636 09:56 Narcizo votes DaddyTorgo (1) #645 10:31 path12 votes DaddyTorgo (2) #651 11:20 mauchow votes DaddyTorgo (3) #673 13:12 Danny votes DaddyTorgo (4) #674 13:16 Chief Rum votes britrock (1) #680 14:36 JAG votes Zinto (1) #688 15:28 The Jackal votes DaddyTorgo (5) #694 15:38 JAG unvotes Zinto (0), votes britrock (2) #706 16:53 Coffee Warlord votes DaddyTorgo (6) #712 18:43 DV votes Coffee Warlord (1) #713 19:20 Zinto votes britrock (3) #714 19:28 DaddyTorgo votes britrock (4) #725 20:43 JAG unvotes britrock (3), votes DaddyTorgo (7) 7 DaddyTorgo -- Narcizo (636). path12 (645), mauchow (651), Danny (673), The Jackal (688), Coffee Warlord (706), JAG (725) 3 Britrock88 ----- Chief Rum (674), Zinto (713), DaddyTorgo (714)

05-02-2013, 03:55 AM	#1168
Narcizo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006	Of course most people would just wait until the night results before all this. But I want to try and work it out beforehand.

05-02-2013, 05:03 AM	#1169
JAG Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: St. Paul, MN	I can see the case for path too. As long as it's one of them I'll be happy. As I said yesterday, I won the BG every day other than when it wasn't bid on and when Jackal won it (and not yesterday obviously)

05-02-2013, 05:24 AM	#1171
JAG Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: St. Paul, MN	JAG D1 - bid $277 on Cookies (won), won $509 on bullet/Britrock lynch D2 - bid $800 on BG (won), lost Britrock bet D3 - bid $380 on BG (won), won $1361 on InBlue/DT bet D4 - bid $1026 on BG (won), lost bet on DV/path12/murra5y D5 - bid $200 on BG (lost), won $679 on murra5y/Danny D6 - bid $1066 on BG (won), won $896 on murra5y/Zinto D7 - no bid, lost bet on Mau/CR

05-02-2013, 05:30 AM	#1172
JAG Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: St. Paul, MN	Narc, D4 should be path scanning Danny instead of Mau scanning Zinto.

05-02-2013, 05:49 AM	#1173
Narcizo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006	You've won lots of bets right there.

05-02-2013, 05:59 AM	#1175
Narcizo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006	Bets d1 - Britrock d2 - Zinto and Coffee d3 - InBlue - $2721 won d4 - DV and DT - $273 won d5 - murra5y and mauchow d6 - murra5y and zinto $896 won d7 - forgot to bet Bids d1 - $1000 on the seer d2 - forgot to bid d3 - $1000 spent on the seer d4 - $675 on the seer d5 - $125 spent on the money transfer d6 - $698 on the seer d7 - $3 spent on messenger service

05-02-2013, 06:09 AM	#1176
Narcizo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006	Changed to actually be, you know, true. DAY ONE WINNING BIDS (6 Wolves) Donna Black Investigations - $1000 - Claimed by Chief Rum, cleared JAG Cookie's Ladies - $277 - Claimed by JAG, used on Brit Casino2Casino Wire Transfer - $27 - Claimed by mauchow BLACKMARKET SERVICES - HIRE AT YOUR OWN RISK The Money Hole - $402 - Joe "Creaky" Reitzler - $350 - Claimed by Jackal used on fontisian DAY TWO WINNING BIDS (5 Wolves) Mick "Stones" McGee - $800 - Claimed by JAG, used on self Donna Black Investigations - $1100 Claimed by Zinto, cleared Jackal Freddie von Maur, Casino Manager - $160 Claimed by Path, won "over $2000" BLACKMARKET SERVICES - HIRE AT YOUR OWN RISK Joe "Creaky" Reitzler - $1000 - DAY THREE WINNING BIDS (5 Wolves) Mick "Stones" McGee - $380 Claimed by JAG, used on Self Donna Black Investigations - $1,000 Claimed by Narcizo, cleared DV Cookie's Ladies - $350 Claimed by mauchow, used on DaddyTorgo Friends4Life Dating Service - $1,000 claimed by Brit, used on Jackal BLACKMARKET SERVICES - HIRE AT YOUR OWN RISK The Money Hole - $500 Joe "Creaky" Reitzler, hitman - $1,100 "Stumpy" Jones, thug - $111 bought by LV (presumably) used on murra5y Trayvon Michaels, crooked cop - $2 used on Brit DAY FOUR WINNING BIDS (3 Wolves can bid) Mick "Stones" McGee - $1,026 Claimed by JAG, used on self Donna Black Investigations - $800 - Claimed by Path, used on Danny BLACKMARKET SERVICES - HIRE AT YOUR OWN RISK Joe "Creaky" Reitzler, hitman - $1,000 - Claimed by Coffee Warlord, used on murra5y DAY FIVE WINNING BIDS (3 wolves) Mick "Stones" McGee - $500 - Claimed by Jackal, used on self Donna Black Investigations - $896 - Claimed by mau, used on Zinto Casino2Casino Wire Transfer - $125 . Claimed by narcizo, used with Freddie von Maur, Casino Manager - $700 BLACK MARKET SERVICES - HIRE AT YOUR OWN RISK Joe "Creaky" Reitzler, hitman - $501 Mikhail Vavilov, arms dealer - $1,066 DAY SIX WINNING BIDS (2 wolves) Mick "Stones" McGee - $1,066 - Claimed by Jag, used on self Donna Black Investigations - $900 - Claimed by DV, used on Britrock BLACK MARKET SERVICES - HIRE AT YOUR OWN RISK Jamie Monteray, hitman - $3,412 - Claimed by Path, used on murra5y DAY SEVEN WINNING BIDS (1 wolf) Mick "Stones" McGee - $2 - Claimed by Chief Rum Donna Black Investigations - $5 - Claimed by Jackal Cookie's Ladies - $1 - Claimed by Coffee Sandy Back Messenger Service - $3 - Claimed by Narcizo BLACK MARKET SERVICES - HIRE AT YOUR OWN RISK Nicky the Trigger, hitman - $100 -

05-02-2013, 06:11 AM	#1177
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	D1 - Wire Transfer, did not use D2 - no bid made D3 - cookies $350 on DT D4 -no bid D5 - Seer - Scanned Z D6 - Lost on Seer bid D7 - No bid I have possibly helped on two fronts against both sides of mafia using ladies against DT and scanning Zinto. I deserve slightly more credit,

05-02-2013, 06:13 AM	#1179
Narcizo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006	Looking at day three, it would take a small miracle for mauchow to be a wolf putting a bid in on another service when there are 4 blackmarket services taken. That means that the 2 wolf teams would have to unwittingly synchronise their bids. Seems more likely that there was double-bidding on the hitman.

05-02-2013, 06:20 AM	#1184
JAG Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: St. Paul, MN	Yeah, I'm getting on board with your thinking. I guess I'm a goner tonight then.

05-02-2013, 06:22 AM	#1185
JAG Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: St. Paul, MN	He claimed he won over $2000 and spent $800 on the seer + $160 that we know of on the other service, but was able to spend $3400 on the hitman. Hmmm.

05-02-2013, 07:48 AM	#1188
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	Bets due in 12 minutes.

05-02-2013, 07:51 AM	#1189
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	FWIW - Aside from the ladies yesterday, I only ever won 1 bid - that of the hitman. There any particular day you guys need me to look up what I bid/lost on?

05-02-2013, 08:00 AM	#1191
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	As opposed to yesterday, today everybody is up even before dawn. The tension in the air of the city is obvious as people jostle at the newstand or rush to their doorsteps to see the paper. The front page is splashed with the headline: MURDER IN ATLANTIC CITY. It appears another body has been found, peppered with bullets in the trashed remains of his apartment. The gambler you knew as JAG has been found murdered. Day 8 has begun.

05-02-2013, 08:03 AM	#1192
JAG Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: St. Paul, MN	Bring it home village.

05-02-2013, 08:09 AM	#1194
Narcizo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006	Well now we wait for Jackal to tell us if this game is about to get crazy, or if its about to be over.

05-02-2013, 08:13 AM	#1199
Narcizo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006	Damn.

05-02-2013, 08:14 AM	#1200
Narcizo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006	Crazy it is then.