The Official March Madness 2007 Thread - Page 24

RedKingGold · 03-30-2007, 05:19 AM

Can someone explain to me why in every single game Oden has what looks like a blood splatter above the second O on his jersey?

timmynausea · 03-30-2007, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by RedKingGold

Can someone explain to me why in every single game Oden has what looks like a blood splatter above the second O on his jersey?

He cut his chin and bled onto his shirt. I believe that was against Tennessee. It left a stain, so it was still there against Memphis.

MizzouRah · 03-30-2007, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Groundhog

From the Onion:

http://www.theonion.com/content/from..._on_final_four

Greg Oden On Final Four Appearance: 'I'm Happier Than I've Been In 30 Years'

Groundhog · 03-30-2007, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by RedKingGold

Can someone explain to me why in every single game Oden has what looks like a blood splatter above the second O on his jersey?

Because he killed a man at half time just to watch him die.

miami_fan · 03-31-2007, 05:14 PM

Early foul trouble for Oden.

st.cronin · 03-31-2007, 05:25 PM

On pace for something like 50-30 final score.

MrBug708 · 03-31-2007, 05:26 PM

Oden has the basketball IQ of Kwame Brown

HerRealName · 03-31-2007, 05:27 PM

So did the refs come into the game thinking that they had to call touch fouls on the two mountains inside and let everything else go? There hasn't been a foul called except for the three soft calls on the two big guys. Weird.

miami_fan · 03-31-2007, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by HerRealName

So did the refs come into the game thinking that they had to call touch fouls on the two mountains inside and let everything else go? There hasn't been a foul called except for the three soft calls on the two big guys. Weird.

Big guys fouling----- bad for the game

Little guys------a-okay

MrBug708 · 03-31-2007, 07:30 PM

I love the Joe Crispin ad.

Ksyrup · 03-31-2007, 08:04 PM

I don't watch much basketball, but the first game and beginning of this game has largely been some awful basketball. Sloppy, bad shooting, no flow. It's fan-tastic!

HerRealName · 03-31-2007, 08:10 PM

Three fouls on Afflalo already. UCLA is going to have major scoring problems from here on out. If Florida starts hitting these open three point shots, UCLA is going to get blown out.

miami_fan · 03-31-2007, 08:16 PM

These refs have gotten the word that there should be absolutely no contact in the game of basketball.

MizzouRah · 03-31-2007, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

I don't watch much basketball, but the first game and beginning of this game has largely been some awful basketball. Sloppy, bad shooting, no flow. It's fan-tastic!

Yeah, quite boring indeed.

MrBug708 · 03-31-2007, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by miami_fan

These refs have gotten the word that there should be absolutely no contact in the game of basketball.

This lineup has probably seen 30 minutes all year together

cartman · 03-31-2007, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by miami_fan

These refs have gotten the word that there should be absolutely no contact in the game of basketball.

If you take the strict interpretation of the rules, this is how the rules are written. About the only contact that is accounted for in the rule book is that the hand is part of the ball during a shot.

cartman · 03-31-2007, 08:25 PM

Dola,

The game is much more watchable to me without Noah on the floor. I just cannot stand him. It's irrational, but the sight of him just pisses me off to no end.

miami_fan · 03-31-2007, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by cartman

If you take the strict interpretation of the rules, this is how the rules are written. About the only contact that is accounted for in the rule book is that the hand is part of the ball during a shot.

That is true. However, as a person who spent most of his basketball life playing in the paint, I will respectfully disagree with the notion that basketball is a non contact sport.

MrBug708 · 03-31-2007, 08:29 PM

*sigh*

Effing Afflalo

sterlingice · 03-31-2007, 08:29 PM

Again, I reiterate, Florida lives the most ref-charmed life.

Much like most of the tourney, Oden's going to be in foul trouble 2 minutes into the national championship game...

SI

adubroff · 03-31-2007, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by cartman

Dola,

The game is much more watchable to me without Noah on the floor. I just cannot stand him. It's irrational, but the sight of him just pisses me off to no end.

You know a lot of people have this feeling and I can't quite get where it comes from. He's largely a hustle/effort guy which generally is something that the public should embrace. I think it must be the hair.

miami_fan · 03-31-2007, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by adubroff

You know a lot of people have this feeling and I can't quite get where it comes from. He's largely a hustle/effort guy which generally is something that the public should embrace. I think it must be the hair.

He's French

Noop · 03-31-2007, 08:33 PM

This game is pure BS the refs are flat out cheating for Florida.

cartman · 03-31-2007, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by adubroff

You know a lot of people have this feeling and I can't quite get where it comes from. He's largely a hustle/effort guy which generally is something that the public should embrace. I think it must be the hair.

He also whines like a little biatch every time a call goes against him. He wildly over-reacts to many situations. And that friggin' seizure dance he had after the SEC championship game didn't help matters either.

adubroff · 03-31-2007, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by cartman

He also whines like a little biatch every time a call goes against him. He wildly over-reacts to many situations. And that friggin' seizure dance he had after the SEC championship game didn't help matters either.

He is demonstrative. I just love his game, hard work and playing big in big spots excuse the screaming for me.

Chief Rum · 03-31-2007, 08:55 PM

I don't have much against Noah, don't care one way or another on him. But everything I have heard about this guy was encapsulated in that push he got called for near the end of the half. His reaction, the way his face looked--this guy's the biggest crybaby I have seen since McHale, if he does this all the time. I can see why people can't stand him.

Brewer is just incredible. 6'9", incredibly athletic, great reach, shutdown defensive ability and NBA three point range. Why have we talked more about Noah and Horford than this guy when it comes to the pros? Noah is gonna get beat up in the pros and become the new Christian Laettner, while Horford is going to have to develop a much more polished offensive game to be more htna a big body off of the bench. Brewer looks like he could be a swingman stud.

Considering we pretty much had no contributions from Afflalo, the Prince, LoMata and to an extent Collison (on the offensive end), I am pretty thrilled to only be down 6 and getting all of those players back.

Collison is much faster than Humphrey and faster than Green (if not by so much). He's the one athletic mismatch we truly have. He needs to be driving inside and drawing players to him, then kicking it out to Roll (if he could finally hit a shot), Shipp and Aflallo.

Chief Rum · 03-31-2007, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by adubroff

He is demonstrative. I just love his game, hard work and playing big in big spots excuse the screaming for me.

Nothing excuses the screaming/whining for me. There are plenty of guys with tremendous work ethic and who come up big when the games on the line who don't turn into bitches when things don't go their way.

cartman · 03-31-2007, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by adubroff

He is demonstrative. I just love his game, hard work and playing big in big spots excuse the screaming for me.

One person's 'demonstrative' is another person's 'drama queen'.

st.cronin · 03-31-2007, 09:03 PM

I don't get the complaints about the refs. I wish the NBA was reffed this way.

RPI-Fan · 03-31-2007, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

I don't have much against Noah, don't care one way or another on him. But everything I have heard about this guy was encapsulated in that push he got called for near the end of the half. His reaction, the way his face looked--this guy's the biggest crybaby I have seen since McHale, if he does this all the time. I can see why people can't stand him.

Brewer is just incredible. 6'9", incredibly athletic, great reach, shutdown defensive ability and NBA three point range. Why have we talked more about Noah and Horford than this guy when it comes to the pros? Noah is gonna get beat up in the pros and become the new Christian Laettner, while Horford is going to have to develop a much more polished offensive game to be more htna a big body off of the bench. Brewer looks like he could be a swingman stud.

Considering we pretty much had no contributions from Afflalo, the Prince, LoMata and to an extent Collison (on the offensive end), I am pretty thrilled to only be down 6 and getting all of those players back.

Collison is much faster than Humphrey and faster than Green (if not by so much). He's the one athletic mismatch we truly have. He needs to be driving inside and drawing players to him, then kicking it out to Roll (if he could finally hit a shot), Shipp and Aflallo.

Brewer, to me, seems very, very lazy. I often see him plain old standing around on both ends of the floor and he is often caught flat-footed.

cartman · 03-31-2007, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Noah is gonna get beat up in the pros and become the new Christian Laettner

Wrong Dukie. I see him becoming the next Cherokee Parks.

st.cronin · 03-31-2007, 09:09 PM

Oh, come on, he's a thousand times better than Cherokee Parks. I was honestly surprised Parks ever played in the NBA.

Chief Rum · 03-31-2007, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by cartman

Wrong Dukie. I see him becoming the next Cherokee Parks.

I do think he's better than Parks, but that's a pretty good comparisaon, too. But he's just a lot more athletic than Parks.

Chief Rum · 03-31-2007, 09:12 PM

If Packer and Nantz say that shot was influenced by the presence of Noah and Horford one more time, I think I might hop in my car, drive cross country and strangle them both.

Chief Rum · 03-31-2007, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by RPI-Fan

Brewer, to me, seems very, very lazy. I often see him plain old standing around on both ends of the floor and he is often caught flat-footed.

Reminds me of Richard Jefferson at UA then, with the added bonus that he was an on-court bitch like Noah. That hasn't stopped him from becoming a terrific player (when ehalthy) for the Nets.

adubroff · 03-31-2007, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Noah is gonna get beat up in the pros and become the new Christian Laettner, while Horford is going to have to develop a much more polished offensive game to be more htna a big body off of the bench. Brewer looks like he could be a swingman stud.

I don't see the comparison here. Laetner never had the athletic ability Noah has. I always look and see Marcus Camby....

MrBug708 · 03-31-2007, 09:22 PM

Can't imagine Afflalo leaving after this performance...

st.cronin · 03-31-2007, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by adubroff

I don't see the comparison here. Laetner never had the athletic ability Noah has. I always look and see Marcus Camby....

That's what I see, too.

HerRealName · 03-31-2007, 09:23 PM

It's obviously going to take Ohio State's best game of the year to beat Florida. There's just too many weapons out there for Florida.

I can't understand why Howland thought he would be able to double down low without getting killed on the outside. It was just a matter of time before one or several or all the shooters started hitting the wide open jumper.

Chief Rum · 03-31-2007, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by adubroff

I don't see the comparison here. Laetner never had the athletic ability Noah has. I always look and see Marcus Camby....

Camby? You kidding? I can see the athletic comparison, except Noah isn't as long or tall or as gifted defensively. I have doubts he will work hard enough at it like Camby does either. And though he will have a better offensive game than Camby, that's not exactly saying a lot (you and I almost have better offensive games than Camby).

I just don't see the toughness needed here to make it in the League.

Plus, Camby was much better in college than Noah is now.

MrBug708 · 03-31-2007, 09:25 PM

I really really hate Howland's turnover schemes

Chief Rum · 03-31-2007, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by HerRealName

It's obviously going to take Ohio State's best game of the year to beat Florida. There's just too many weapons out there for Florida.

I can't understand why Howland thought he would be able to double down low without getting killed on the outside. It was just a matter of time before one or several or all the shooters started hitting the wide open jumper.

What choice did he have? Damned if you do, damned if you don't. The double teams have worked on some very good big men this year like the Lopez twins at Stanford, Hawes-Brockman at UW, Morris at UK, White at Indiana, and Gray at Pitt and so on. They also did wonders last year against Diogu and Powe. If you have two bad choices to choose from, choose the one that at least worked in the past.

Howland's issue right now is his strange inability to attract an athletic big man (or anyone taller than 6'10") to Westwood since he got here. I just don't understand why we can swing and miss on so many solid big men in recent years (like Thompson, Stephenson, Brockman). It's going to be a nice change having Kevin Love next year,a lthough Howland is back to losing out on big men after that. He already lost Babbitt to Ohio State.

HerRealName · 03-31-2007, 09:36 PM

Even if you want to double, you have to mix it up. You can't come and double every time or you're not even forcing the post player to make a decision. All he has to do is look for the open man. Florida is tough, there's no question about that, but if you start getting yourself into scramble situations then you're going to get burned.

By the way, I was pretty happy to see Babbitt to Ohio State. It will make up for Roe choosing UNC.

cartman · 03-31-2007, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

Oh, come on, he's a thousand times better than Cherokee Parks. I was honestly surprised Parks ever played in the NBA.

Well, here are their career NCAA Stats. Pretty close, IMO.

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	MIN	PPG	FG%	3P%	FT%	RPG	APG	TPG	BPG	SPG	
Parks	26.4	12.5	55.1	33.3	75.5	6.7	0.8	1.6	1.8	0.7	
Noah	21.0	10.5	45.9	50.0	58.6	6.3	1.7	1.8	1.7	0.9

Chief Rum · 03-31-2007, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by cartman

Well, here are their career NCAA Stats. Pretty close, IMO.

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	MIN	PPG	FG%	3P%	FT%	RPG	APG	TPG	BPG	SPG	
Parks	26.4	12.5	55.1	33.3	75.5	6.7	0.8	1.6	1.8	0.7	
Noah	21.0	10.5	45.9	50.0	58.6	6.3	1.7	1.8	1.7	0.9

lol..gold.

Young Drachma · 03-31-2007, 09:41 PM

This is such a boring tournament. Bleh. It's a sad commentary when the DII National Championship AND the Women's NIT are more entertaining than pretty much any of these men's tournament games.

Bleh.

Chief Rum · 03-31-2007, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by HerRealName

Even if you want to double, you have to mix it up. You can't come and double every time or you're not even forcing the post player to make a decision. All he has to do is look for the open man. Florida is tough, there's no question about that, but if you start getting yourself into scramble situations then you're going to get burned.

By the way, I was pretty happy to see Babbitt to Ohio State. It will make up for Roe choosing UNC.

That's the thing. This isn't a normal defensive basketball team. Say what you want about their offensive issues, but UCLA has some of the best on ball defenders in the country. It's why they have been so effective defensively (most of the time). They can play that scramble game against most teams and get to their men before the swing pass results in an open shot.

But Florida is both athletic and very well coached. And that's the issue here. UCLA has finally run into a team that exceeds their athleticism and matches their coaching. And they're taller, too.

I really don't think this comes down to schemes. It's just a physical mismatch. Having seen Florida dismantle two very good UCLA teams now, I don't think there's a gameplan short of what some evil genius could come up with that would get UCLA this win, short of Florida playing completely atypical or having a horrible shooting night.

st.cronin · 03-31-2007, 09:46 PM

I never would have guessed Noah's fg % was that low. I still think he'll be a good pro, though.

Chief Rum · 03-31-2007, 09:46 PM

dola, I was really bummed we didn't get Babbitt, but if we recover with Gordon and also bring in Holliday, I'll be happy. Then get the Wear twins and/or Sidney in '09.

cartman · 03-31-2007, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

I really don't think this comes down to schemes. It's just a physical mismatch. Having seen Florida dismantle two very good UCLA teams now, I don't think there's a gameplan short of what some evil genius could come up with that would get UCLA this win, short of Florida playing completely atypical or having a horrible shooting night.

Well, according to your legendary coach, John Wooten, you shouldn't prepare a scheme for a particular opponent. According to his philosophy, you run your plan to perfection, and make the other guy adjust.

03-31-2007, 05:14 PM	#1155
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03-31-2007, 05:25 PM	#1156
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	On pace for something like 50-30 final score. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

03-31-2007, 08:04 PM	#1161
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	I don't watch much basketball, but the first game and beginning of this game has largely been some awful basketball. Sloppy, bad shooting, no flow. It's fan-tastic! __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

03-31-2007, 08:16 PM	#1163
miami_fan Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Land O Lakes FL	These refs have gotten the word that there should be absolutely no contact in the game of basketball. __________________ "The blind soldier fought for me in this war. The least I can do now is fight for him. I have eyes. He hasn’t. I have a voice on the radio, he hasn’t. I was born a white man. And until a colored man is a full citizen, like me, I haven’t the leisure to enjoy the freedom that colored man risked his life to maintain for me. I don’t own what I have until he owns an equal share of it. Until somebody beats me and blinds me, I am in his debt."- Orson Welles August 11, 1946

03-31-2007, 08:25 PM	#1167
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	Dola, The game is much more watchable to me without Noah on the floor. I just cannot stand him. It's irrational, but the sight of him just pisses me off to no end. __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

03-30-2007, 05:19 AM	#1151
RedKingGold College Starter Join Date: Oct 2002	Can someone explain to me why in every single game Oden has what looks like a blood splatter above the second O on his jersey?

03-31-2007, 05:26 PM	#1157
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Oden has the basketball IQ of Kwame Brown

03-31-2007, 05:27 PM	#1158
HerRealName College Prospect Join Date: Dec 2002	So did the refs come into the game thinking that they had to call touch fouls on the two mountains inside and let everything else go? There hasn't been a foul called except for the three soft calls on the two big guys. Weird.

03-31-2007, 07:30 PM	#1160
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	I love the Joe Crispin ad.

03-31-2007, 08:10 PM	#1162
HerRealName College Prospect Join Date: Dec 2002	Three fouls on Afflalo already. UCLA is going to have major scoring problems from here on out. If Florida starts hitting these open three point shots, UCLA is going to get blown out.

03-31-2007, 08:29 PM	#1169
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	sigh Effing Afflalo

03-31-2007, 08:29 PM	#1170
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	Again, I reiterate, Florida lives the most ref-charmed life. Much like most of the tourney, Oden's going to be in foul trouble 2 minutes into the national championship game... SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!" Last edited by sterlingice : 03-31-2007 at 08:30 PM.

03-31-2007, 08:33 PM	#1173
Noop Bonafide Seminole Fan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Miami	This game is pure BS the refs are flat out cheating for Florida. __________________ Subby's favorite woman hater.

03-31-2007, 08:55 PM	#1176
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	I don't have much against Noah, don't care one way or another on him. But everything I have heard about this guy was encapsulated in that push he got called for near the end of the half. His reaction, the way his face looked--this guy's the biggest crybaby I have seen since McHale, if he does this all the time. I can see why people can't stand him. Brewer is just incredible. 6'9", incredibly athletic, great reach, shutdown defensive ability and NBA three point range. Why have we talked more about Noah and Horford than this guy when it comes to the pros? Noah is gonna get beat up in the pros and become the new Christian Laettner, while Horford is going to have to develop a much more polished offensive game to be more htna a big body off of the bench. Brewer looks like he could be a swingman stud. Considering we pretty much had no contributions from Afflalo, the Prince, LoMata and to an extent Collison (on the offensive end), I am pretty thrilled to only be down 6 and getting all of those players back. Collison is much faster than Humphrey and faster than Green (if not by so much). He's the one athletic mismatch we truly have. He needs to be driving inside and drawing players to him, then kicking it out to Roll (if he could finally hit a shot), Shipp and Aflallo.

03-31-2007, 09:03 PM	#1179
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	I don't get the complaints about the refs. I wish the NBA was reffed this way. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

03-31-2007, 09:09 PM	#1182
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	Oh, come on, he's a thousand times better than Cherokee Parks. I was honestly surprised Parks ever played in the NBA. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

03-31-2007, 09:12 PM	#1184
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	If Packer and Nantz say that shot was influenced by the presence of Noah and Horford one more time, I think I might hop in my car, drive cross country and strangle them both.

03-31-2007, 09:22 PM	#1187
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Can't imagine Afflalo leaving after this performance...

03-31-2007, 09:23 PM	#1189
HerRealName College Prospect Join Date: Dec 2002	It's obviously going to take Ohio State's best game of the year to beat Florida. There's just too many weapons out there for Florida. I can't understand why Howland thought he would be able to double down low without getting killed on the outside. It was just a matter of time before one or several or all the shooters started hitting the wide open jumper.

03-31-2007, 09:25 PM	#1191
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	I really really hate Howland's turnover schemes

03-31-2007, 09:36 PM	#1193
HerRealName College Prospect Join Date: Dec 2002	Even if you want to double, you have to mix it up. You can't come and double every time or you're not even forcing the post player to make a decision. All he has to do is look for the open man. Florida is tough, there's no question about that, but if you start getting yourself into scramble situations then you're going to get burned. By the way, I was pretty happy to see Babbitt to Ohio State. It will make up for Roe choosing UNC.

03-31-2007, 09:41 PM	#1196
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03-31-2007, 09:46 PM	#1198
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	I never would have guessed Noah's fg % was that low. I still think he'll be a good pro, though. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

03-31-2007, 09:46 PM	#1199
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	dola, I was really bummed we didn't get Babbitt, but if we recover with Gordon and also bring in Holliday, I'll be happy. Then get the Wear twins and/or Sidney in '09.

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