2010 NFL Offseason Thread - Offseason ends at 6 pm est - Page 24

JeeberD · 07-29-2010, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Doug5984

Saints signed Patrick Ramsey- repeat!

I guess he'll be a decent backup

I remember a few years back when I got excited because there was a rumor that the Cowboys were going to trade for Ramsey and make him our starter.

God I was an idiot.

Doug5984 · 07-29-2010, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by JeeberD

I remember a few years back when I got excited because there was a rumor that the Cowboys were going to trade for Ramsey and make him our starter.

God I was an idiot.

I'm going to be heading to Dallas this year (twice hopefully) to watch the Saints - Cowboys on Turkey Day, might try to catch a Stars game that weekend also. Have you been to Jerry World yet- any advice on seating?

Ksyrup · 07-29-2010, 09:00 AM

Don't sit behind a cinderblock wall. Your view might not be ideal.

JeeberD · 07-29-2010, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Doug5984

I'm going to be heading to Dallas this year (twice hopefully) to watch the Saints - Cowboys on Turkey Day, might try to catch a Stars game that weekend also. Have you been to Jerry World yet- any advice on seating?

I've only been once, and we had great seats (20 yard line, row 17). Even though the seats were good, I still had trouble keeping my eyes off of JerryVision at times. It's an amazing building, go early so you can explore. I really can't help you with seating advice, though...

DataKing · 07-29-2010, 01:03 PM

$21 million buys a lot of cheeseburgers.

Greyroofoo · 07-29-2010, 01:19 PM

But at least Terrence "Cheesburger" Cody passed his condition test!

Ksyrup · 07-30-2010, 01:04 PM

The picture of Tebow on the front page of ESPN.com right now isn't making me too impressed with his "new and improved" throwing mechanics.

Lathum · 07-31-2010, 07:14 AM

Dez Bryant out 4-6 weeks with high ankle sprain. I have a feeling he may have a lot of lingering injuries and be a big disappointment this year.

2010 NFL Training Camps: Dallas Cowboys' Dez Bryant out 4-6 weeks with high-ankle sprain - ESPN Dallas

rowech · 07-31-2010, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

Dez Bryant out 4-6 weeks with high ankle sprain. I have a feeling he may have a lot of lingering injuries and be a big disappointment this year.

2010 NFL Training Camps: Dallas Cowboys' Dez Bryant out 4-6 weeks with high-ankle sprain - ESPN Dallas

Not to mention that by all reports he has the IQ of a toad and will never be able to pick up an offense more complicated than run in, run out, run deep.

jeff061 · 07-31-2010, 09:19 AM

50 mil guaranteed to Bradford. Craziness.

whomario · 07-31-2010, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by jeff061

50 mil guaranteed to Bradford. Craziness.

Hello, rookie scale ...

Bearcat729 · 07-31-2010, 01:59 PM

Browns sign Joe Haden for 50 mil over 5 years and 26mil guaranteed. Montario Hardesty is injured though it's only a twisted knee so at least it's nothing too bad.

JonInMiddleGA · 08-01-2010, 08:16 PM

Moreno carted off during Broncos practice, Buckhalter leaves practice early as well but under his own power.

Denver paper reporting it now as partially torn hamstring for Moreno (according to sources), just a balky upper back injury of some sort for CB.

JonInMiddleGA · 08-01-2010, 08:47 PM

Now reports say Moreno's hammy isn't torn after all.
Broncos RB Knowshon Moreno hamstring not torn - KDVR

miked · 08-01-2010, 09:05 PM

Man, I'm glad I didn't pick keepers yet.

albionmoonlight · 08-02-2010, 08:15 AM

You know, there is little I find more annoying as a sports fan than to have a player on my team with a constant string of nagging injuries. You just know that Moreno's hamstring will be an issue with him all season long now. Personally, I'd rather have a guy 90% as good, but who is always ready to go. Instead, Broncos fans will have to deal with "is he playing this week?" all season long. Ugh.

Kodos · 08-02-2010, 08:19 AM

Ping: Colts fans
Re: Bob Sanders

Greyroofoo · 08-02-2010, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Kodos

Ping: Colts fans
Re: Bob Sanders

Bad-example · 08-02-2010, 04:37 PM

I liked reading this initial impression in the SJ Mercury of Iupati on the first day of working in pads:

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All I saw was the guy in the 77 jersey moving wherever he wanted to go, and running backs having plenty of space when they went in the same direction.

Honolulu_Blue · 08-02-2010, 04:49 PM

I less enjoyed reading this initial impression in the Detroit Free Press of Suh on the first day of working in pads:

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DaddyTorgo · 08-02-2010, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Kodos

Ping: Colts fans
Re: Bob Sanders

retired?

Greyroofoo · 08-02-2010, 08:43 PM

A healthy Bob Sanders is a NFL defensive player of the year (2007). However Bob is never healthy. In only 2 seasons of his 6 years has he played in at least half of the Colts games.

Ronnie Dobbs2 · 08-03-2010, 09:52 AM

So Favre is telling teammates he won't be coming back.

Which just sets the stage for the most dramatic comeback ever.

jbergey22 · 08-03-2010, 09:57 AM

This is last year all over again in regards to Favre. He must feel guilty for not being at training camp so he has to make this crap up every year.

Or it is the team trying to get the other players to train harder by acting as if Favre isnt coming back. Apparently the Vikings has a very intense practice on the heels of this news.

NorvTurnerOverdrive · 08-03-2010, 09:58 AM

espnews just said favre is retiring.

kingfc22 · 08-03-2010, 10:01 AM

And in other news, the Vikings just signed Jamarcus Russell.

molson · 08-03-2010, 10:03 AM

This is almost exactly when Favre told the Vikings he wasn't coming back last year.

I bet they would have liked to know during the offseason, but I guess that's part of what you acquire with this drama queen.

Mustang · 08-03-2010, 10:24 AM

I'll believe it when the 2010 season is complete.

I believe their next step is probably to put him on the active PUP list then the 6 week PUP list and see what happens and if his vagina, I mean ankle responds.

spleen1015 · 08-03-2010, 10:24 AM

I'll believe he's retired when he's not on the field Week 1.

rowech · 08-03-2010, 10:27 AM

I could be wrong but I think he's done for good. Just not seeing him saying, I'm good to go anytime soon. He might feel like it again next year but taking a year off, I can't imagine doing what it takes to go back.

NorvTurnerOverdrive · 08-03-2010, 10:36 AM

i'd be bent if i was a vikings fan. mcnabb, campbell, bulger or even delhomme still makes them favorites. jackson/rosenfels not so much.

Honolulu_Blue · 08-03-2010, 10:39 AM

I really, really, really hope he's retired for good. That would screw over the Vikings nicely. I hate the Vikings.

I hate pretty much every NFL team, except for the Lions and Browns. It's not my fault. After the last 10 years with the Lions my NFL heart is a black, twisted dry husk of a thing. It knows only spite and anger. There is no joy in it. It only wants to see the NFL teams suffer as it has suffered.

Doug5984 · 08-03-2010, 10:44 AM

I'll believe it when he's not on the field week 1, I'd put a good bit of money on him playing.

If he not, he royal fucked the Vikings over as they had other chances to get a solid replacement ready.

Ksyrup · 08-03-2010, 10:46 AM

His one final act to win back GB fans. Take your rival to an almost-certain SB, then throw it away with an inexcusable INT, and follow-up that up by retiring so late before the next season that you take them from preseason NFC favorites to second behind GB in the NFC North.

Kodos · 08-03-2010, 10:53 AM

AP source: Favre tells Vikings he will not return - Yahoo! News

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Childress shrugged off all the questions and admitted he didn't know whether Favre would really come back. The Vikings didn't pursude a trade for Donovan McNabb and declined to select a quarterback of the future in the draft.

Articles that make English teachers weep.

cartman · 08-03-2010, 12:07 PM

Favre has a new NFL record:

Most consecutive retirements

Arles · 08-03-2010, 12:11 PM

Favre is like Jason from Friday the 13th. Just like I would only believe Jason is dead when his head it cutoff and in someone's hands - I'll believe Favre is retired when the paperwork is filed.

Mustang · 08-03-2010, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Arles

I'll believe Favre is retired when the paperwork is filed.

I would say I'd believe it when he is dead, but we would probably get Zombie Favre.

I'm calling that he comes back in week seven. He will be on the PUP, the Vikings will be 3-3 and he will ride in on his horse and try to save the day.

Coffee Warlord · 08-03-2010, 12:18 PM

I hear Rexy wouldn't mind a starting job.

molson · 08-03-2010, 12:24 PM

I don't even know who the Vikings other QBs are. Is Tavaris Jackson still there?

They should sign Jeff George.

Arles · 08-03-2010, 12:43 PM

Those who don't remember the past are condemned to repeat it:

• July 17, 2009: Favre works out with high school players in Mississippi and vows to give the Vikings an answer by the start of training camp on July 30.

• July 28, 2009: Favre tells the Vikings he won't end his second retirement. In what he calls the "hardest decision" he ever made, Favre says, "I didn't feel like physically I could play at a level that was acceptable."

• Aug. 18, 2009: Favre reverses his decision and joins the Vikings. He says he wants to bring a championship to Minnesota.

-----

• July 12, 2010: Favre worked out with high school students in Hattiesburg, Miss. The QB did not speak about his status, however, and ran to his truck and drove away when approached by reporters.

• August 3, 2010: Favre has informed the Vikings he will not return to Minnesota for a second season, according to multiple reports. Favre has sent text messages to teammates saying, "This is it," league sources told ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter.

• August 16-18, 2010: ???

Passacaglia · 08-03-2010, 12:52 PM

So now that we all remember it, does that mean we don't have to repeat it?

rowech · 08-03-2010, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by molson

I don't even know who the Vikings other QBs are. Is Tavaris Jackson still there?

They should sign Jeff George.

Might as well try to get another year out of Kurt Warner.

NorvTurnerOverdrive · 08-03-2010, 01:06 PM

there's no loyalty in sports. it's a cold hearted business. except when it isn't. then it blows up in your face.

Arles · 08-03-2010, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

So now that we all remember it, does that mean we don't have to repeat it?

There's always hope....

But, no, Brett will come back in mid-August citing the overwhelming support from his teammates and the fans.

Matthean · 08-03-2010, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by NorvTurnerOverdrive

i'd be bent if i was a vikings fan. mcnabb, campbell, bulger or even delhomme still makes them favorites. jackson/rosenfels not so much.

Oh come on, with Childress fresh off that contract extension they are in good hands.

Mustang · 08-03-2010, 04:09 PM

He will be back.

I'm sure what is going on now is that the Vikings wanted Favre to commit to something (be it after the 2nd preseason game or whatever). Favre got all huffy and just started texting out to everyone that he was done. (pretty much seems to be the pattern, you put him to the fire and he gives retirement as the answer). Now management will need to step back and go.. whoa whoa whoa... Did we say the 2nd preseason game? By 2nd preseason game we meant by week 1. Oh, and here is another 3 million. We cool?

Of course then Brett will show up, give a 'Aw shucks, didn't want to let the team down and they showed they really want me. I mean, I never SAID I was retiring" and 1/2 the nation will cock gobble him and the other half will grow even more tired of this.

DataKing · 08-03-2010, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Mustang

Of course then Brett will show up, give a 'Aw shucks, didn't want to let the team down and they showed they really want me. I mean, I never SAID I was retiring" and 1/2 the nation will cock gobble him and the other half will grow even more tired of this.

Put me firmly in the 2nd camp. Please Brett, just crawl into a hole somewhere and die already.

stevew · 08-03-2010, 04:39 PM

Until the consecutive games streak is broken, he's not retired. He is, however, in the words of Borat "retarded."

07-29-2010, 09:00 AM	#1153
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07-29-2010, 01:03 PM	#1156
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07-30-2010, 01:04 PM	#1158
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	The picture of Tebow on the front page of ESPN.com right now isn't making me too impressed with his "new and improved" throwing mechanics. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

07-31-2010, 09:19 AM	#1161
jeff061 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: MA	50 mil guaranteed to Bradford. Craziness. __________________

07-31-2010, 01:59 PM	#1163
Bearcat729 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio	Browns sign Joe Haden for 50 mil over 5 years and 26mil guaranteed. Montario Hardesty is injured though it's only a twisted knee so at least it's nothing too bad. __________________ Bearcat729 on XBox Live and PSN

07-29-2010, 01:19 PM	#1157
Greyroofoo Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Alabama	But at least Terrence "Cheesburger" Cody passed his condition test!

07-31-2010, 07:14 AM	#1159
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Dez Bryant out 4-6 weeks with high ankle sprain. I have a feeling he may have a lot of lingering injuries and be a big disappointment this year. 2010 NFL Training Camps: Dallas Cowboys' Dez Bryant out 4-6 weeks with high-ankle sprain - ESPN Dallas

08-01-2010, 08:16 PM	#1164
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	Moreno carted off during Broncos practice, Buckhalter leaves practice early as well but under his own power. Denver paper reporting it now as partially torn hamstring for Moreno (according to sources), just a balky upper back injury of some sort for CB. __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

08-01-2010, 08:47 PM	#1165
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	Now reports say Moreno's hammy isn't torn after all. Broncos RB Knowshon Moreno hamstring not torn - KDVR __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

08-01-2010, 09:05 PM	#1166
miked College Starter Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: The Dirty	Man, I'm glad I didn't pick keepers yet. __________________ Commish of the United Baseball League (OOTP 6.5)

08-02-2010, 08:15 AM	#1167
albionmoonlight Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Carolina	You know, there is little I find more annoying as a sports fan than to have a player on my team with a constant string of nagging injuries. You just know that Moreno's hamstring will be an issue with him all season long now. Personally, I'd rather have a guy 90% as good, but who is always ready to go. Instead, Broncos fans will have to deal with "is he playing this week?" all season long. Ugh.

08-02-2010, 08:19 AM	#1168
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	Ping: Colts fans Re: Bob Sanders __________________ Author of The Bill Gates Challenge, as well as other groundbreaking dynasties.

08-02-2010, 08:43 PM	#1173
Greyroofoo Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Alabama	A healthy Bob Sanders is a NFL defensive player of the year (2007). However Bob is never healthy. In only 2 seasons of his 6 years has he played in at least half of the Colts games.

08-03-2010, 09:52 AM	#1174
Ronnie Dobbs2 Pro Rookie Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Bahston Mass	So Favre is telling teammates he won't be coming back. Which just sets the stage for the most dramatic comeback ever. __________________ There's no I in Teamocil, at least not where you'd think

08-03-2010, 09:57 AM	#1175
jbergey22 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Minnesota	This is last year all over again in regards to Favre. He must feel guilty for not being at training camp so he has to make this crap up every year. Or it is the team trying to get the other players to train harder by acting as if Favre isnt coming back. Apparently the Vikings has a very intense practice on the heels of this news. Last edited by jbergey22 : 08-03-2010 at 09:58 AM.

08-03-2010, 09:58 AM	#1176
NorvTurnerOverdrive College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2008	espnews just said favre is retiring.

08-03-2010, 10:01 AM	#1177
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	And in other news, the Vikings just signed Jamarcus Russell. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

08-03-2010, 10:03 AM	#1178
molson General Manager Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Mountains	This is almost exactly when Favre told the Vikings he wasn't coming back last year. I bet they would have liked to know during the offseason, but I guess that's part of what you acquire with this drama queen.

08-03-2010, 10:24 AM	#1179
Mustang Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Wisconsin	I'll believe it when the 2010 season is complete. I believe their next step is probably to put him on the active PUP list then the 6 week PUP list and see what happens and if his vagina, I mean ankle responds. __________________ You, you will regret what you have done this day. I will make you regret ever being born. Your going to wish you never left your mothers womb, where it was warm and safe... and wet. i am going to show you pain you never knew existed, you are going to see a whole new spectrum of pain, like a Rainboooow. But! This rainbow is not just like any other rainbow, its...

08-03-2010, 10:24 AM	#1180
spleen1015 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003	I'll believe he's retired when he's not on the field Week 1. __________________ Why choose failure when success is an option?

08-03-2010, 10:27 AM	#1181
rowech Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2006	I could be wrong but I think he's done for good. Just not seeing him saying, I'm good to go anytime soon. He might feel like it again next year but taking a year off, I can't imagine doing what it takes to go back.

08-03-2010, 10:36 AM	#1182
NorvTurnerOverdrive College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2008	i'd be bent if i was a vikings fan. mcnabb, campbell, bulger or even delhomme still makes them favorites. jackson/rosenfels not so much.

08-03-2010, 10:39 AM	#1183
Honolulu_Blue Hockey Boy Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Royal Oak, MI	I really, really, really hope he's retired for good. That would screw over the Vikings nicely. I hate the Vikings. I hate pretty much every NFL team, except for the Lions and Browns. It's not my fault. After the last 10 years with the Lions my NFL heart is a black, twisted dry husk of a thing. It knows only spite and anger. There is no joy in it. It only wants to see the NFL teams suffer as it has suffered. __________________ *Steve Yzerman*: 1,755 points in 1,514 regular season games. 185 points in 196 postseason games. A First-Team All-Star, Conn Smythe Trophy winner, Selke Trophy winner, Masterton Trophy winner, member of the Hockey Hall of Fame, Olympic gold medallist, and a three-time Stanley Cup Champion. Longest serving captain of one team in the history of the NHL (19 seasons).

08-03-2010, 10:44 AM	#1184
Doug5984 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Louisiana	I'll believe it when he's not on the field week 1, I'd put a good bit of money on him playing. If he not, he royal fucked the Vikings over as they had other chances to get a solid replacement ready.

08-03-2010, 10:46 AM	#1185
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	His one final act to win back GB fans. Take your rival to an almost-certain SB, then throw it away with an inexcusable INT, and follow-up that up by retiring so late before the next season that you take them from preseason NFC favorites to second behind GB in the NFC North. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

08-03-2010, 12:07 PM	#1187
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	Favre has a new NFL record: Most consecutive retirements __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

08-03-2010, 12:11 PM	#1188
Arles Grey Dog Software Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Phoenix, AZ by way of Belleville, IL	Favre is like Jason from Friday the 13th. Just like I would only believe Jason is dead when his head it cutoff and in someone's hands - I'll believe Favre is retired when the paperwork is filed. __________________ Developer of Bowl Bound College Football http://www.greydogsoftware.com

08-03-2010, 12:18 PM	#1190
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	I hear Rexy wouldn't mind a starting job.

08-03-2010, 12:24 PM	#1191
molson General Manager Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Mountains	I don't even know who the Vikings other QBs are. Is Tavaris Jackson still there? They should sign Jeff George.

08-03-2010, 12:43 PM	#1192
Arles Grey Dog Software Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Phoenix, AZ by way of Belleville, IL	Those who don't remember the past are condemned to repeat it: • July 17, 2009: Favre works out with high school players in Mississippi and vows to give the Vikings an answer by the start of training camp on July 30. • July 28, 2009: Favre tells the Vikings he won't end his second retirement. In what he calls the "hardest decision" he ever made, Favre says, "I didn't feel like physically I could play at a level that was acceptable." • Aug. 18, 2009: Favre reverses his decision and joins the Vikings. He says he wants to bring a championship to Minnesota. ----- • July 12, 2010: Favre worked out with high school students in Hattiesburg, Miss. The QB did not speak about his status, however, and ran to his truck and drove away when approached by reporters. • August 3, 2010: Favre has informed the Vikings he will not return to Minnesota for a second season, according to multiple reports. Favre has sent text messages to teammates saying, "This is it," league sources told ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter. • August 16-18, 2010: ??? __________________ Developer of Bowl Bound College Football http://www.greydogsoftware.com

08-03-2010, 12:52 PM	#1193
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	So now that we all remember it, does that mean we don't have to repeat it?

08-03-2010, 01:06 PM	#1195
NorvTurnerOverdrive College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2008	there's no loyalty in sports. it's a cold hearted business. except when it isn't. then it blows up in your face.

08-03-2010, 04:09 PM	#1198
Mustang Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Wisconsin	He will be back. I'm sure what is going on now is that the Vikings wanted Favre to commit to something (be it after the 2nd preseason game or whatever). Favre got all huffy and just started texting out to everyone that he was done. (pretty much seems to be the pattern, you put him to the fire and he gives retirement as the answer). Now management will need to step back and go.. whoa whoa whoa... Did we say the 2nd preseason game? By 2nd preseason game we meant by week 1. Oh, and here is another 3 million. We cool? Of course then Brett will show up, give a 'Aw shucks, didn't want to let the team down and they showed they really want me. I mean, I never SAID I was retiring" and 1/2 the nation will cock gobble him and the other half will grow even more tired of this. __________________ You, you will regret what you have done this day. I will make you regret ever being born. Your going to wish you never left your mothers womb, where it was warm and safe... and wet. i am going to show you pain you never knew existed, you are going to see a whole new spectrum of pain, like a Rainboooow. But! This rainbow is not just like any other rainbow, its... Last edited by Mustang : 08-03-2010 at 04:10 PM.

08-03-2010, 04:39 PM	#1200
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Until the consecutive games streak is broken, he's not retired. He is, however, in the words of Borat "retarded."

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