Werewolf: Hunt for Necromancers - GAME OVER! Post #3469 - Page 24

Passacaglia · 06-21-2006, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

When did we find out path was good? I dont think we did, so unless im mistaken dont slam him for a vote that has as good a chance of being right as yours is

Because we better be DAMN sure we know what we're doing if we lynch the Pharoah. The rules don't say anything about what happens if the Pharoah dies, but my guess is that chances are, it won't be good.

Tyrith · 06-21-2006, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

When did we find out path was good? I dont think we did, so unless im mistaken dont slam him for a vote that has as good a chance of being right as yours is

If path is bad we have almost no way of winning the game because we can't kill him at night and we'd have to have three good ruling council members ALL agree with us. Furthermore, he'd have the power to kill three good guys, one at day, two at night, without any real chance of retribution. Don't you damn tell me path has just as much a chance of being a bad guy as the rest of us.

Passacaglia · 06-21-2006, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

How is a vote wasted, with the votes so spread out? I mean, with the leader at a whopping 2, you're already thinking it's time to join a bandwagon? One vote for Tyrith puts him in the lead.

Granted, bullet, who now has 3 votes on him, had the best chance to die anyway, since path's tie-breaking vote was on him.

Blade6119 · 06-21-2006, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyrith

If path is bad we have almost no way of winning the game because we can't kill him at night and we'd have to have three good ruling council members ALL agree with us. Furthermore, he'd have the power to kill three good guys, one at day, two at night, without any real chance of retribution. Don't you damn tell me path has just as much a chance of being a bad guy as the rest of us.

He does, and those exact reasons should make you more afraid of him then any other. Dont trust him becuase their are roadblocks. Wonder why those roadblocks are in place. He is a public role, not a egyptian role. Just saying, he is in no way clear

Tyrith · 06-21-2006, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

He does, and those exact reasons should make you more afraid of him then any other. Dont trust him becuase their are roadblocks. Wonder why those roadblocks are in place. He is a public role, not a egyptian role. Just saying, he is in no way clear

Those aren't "roadblocks", they're pretty much impossibilities. We'd have to have three good members of the Ruling Council and get them all to play along. And we'd have no bodyguard for most of the game. Although I'm fairly certain this is why hoops didn't say he was on our side, but come on blade. He also specifically stated the reason for his vote as revenge, and the vote doesn't do anything without any popular support behind it.

Tyrith · 06-21-2006, 05:30 PM

Out until after lynch.

saldana · 06-21-2006, 05:31 PM

again, i am in that lovely position where i fucked up yesterday and am on the block for it today. perhaps i can engender a bit of trust from one of my votes since king doesnt want to move....at this point i will be saving my casting in case i need it for self preservation later.

unvote barkeep

tanglewood · 06-21-2006, 05:31 PM

Bek's vote strikes me as a combination of inexperience and stupidity, not anything malicious or an indicator that he may be a necro. Just take your vote off him Bek, he won't be lynched today no matter what anyway.

I had actually forgotten that soothsayer is neutral role until Blade's bolded post, so thanks for that it was of some use after all.

Barkeep49 · 06-21-2006, 05:31 PM

WHy is he invincible at night? My fear is not that path is evil but that whoever would become pharoah after path was killed would be evil.

Vince · 06-21-2006, 05:32 PM

But if we suspect path is bad, then all we have to do is find out which member of the ruling class isn't supporting his ouster, and we lynch them. I think that on the off chance that we decide path is bad, a necromancer on the Ruling Council would be happy to kill path off -- give himself a chance to become Pharaoh, and also solidify some trust.

Blade6119 · 06-21-2006, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyrith

Those aren't "roadblocks", they're pretty much impossibilities. We'd have to have three good members of the Ruling Council and get them all to play along. And we'd have no bodyguard for most of the game. Although I'm fairly certain this is why hoops didn't say he was on our side, but come on blade. He also specifically stated the reason for his vote as revenge, and the vote doesn't do anything without any popular support behind it.

Why would we lose the bodyguard? And no, it could be bad guys too. They do not all know each other yet. Hell, they might not know a soul yet. The bad guys are just as afraid of path.

I dont see where we lose a lot by killing him...he cant issue orders to the EG(oh no, he gets to do it himself *gasp*). A new one is appointed. His helmet goes somewhere. I dont get why you think its soo impossible hes bad, or that he can be killed.

Vince · 06-21-2006, 05:33 PM

We'd lose the bodyguard because Path has the ability to order the bodyguard around. So he could just order the bodyguard to protect someone that he's not going after, therefore eliminating his benefit.

Barkeep49 · 06-21-2006, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Vince

We'd lose the bodyguard because Path has the ability to order the bodyguard around. So he could just order the bodyguard to protect someone that he's not going after, therefore eliminating his benefit.

Well presumably our BG would do a reveal at that point to let us know what was happening.

Blade6119 · 06-21-2006, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Vince

We'd lose the bodyguard because Path has the ability to order the bodyguard around. So he could just order the bodyguard to protect someone that he's not going after, therefore eliminating his benefit.

The bodyguard can only be lost in death or if the pharoh orders him every night to do a bad thing. Killing path would eliminate that second option, thus making the bodyguard more free. Granted, someone else will come along. I just dont understand why path is soo trusted, when i see no reason other then people are afraid of him

Tyrith · 06-21-2006, 05:36 PM

Vince said it. And the EG order is not bound by the every other night rule, so if he was afraid of the fanatic he could pretty much barricade himself in his room.

Vince · 06-21-2006, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Well presumably our BG would do a reveal at that point to let us know what was happening.

The only way I can see this being the case is if the guard guessed right in the first place; i.e. he chooses to defend XXX, gets re-routed to YYY, XXX dies during the night. If the guard chooses to defend AAA, the pharaoh orders him to defend BBB, and CCC dies during the night, I don't think that's concrete evidence that the pharaoh is bad.

Tyrith · 06-21-2006, 05:38 PM

I trust path because making him bad makes this game almost impossible for us to win, and because I don't believe hoops is stacking roles on us. Pharaoh + some other bad guy power, likely head, is giving one person a TON of power over the game.

Tyrith · 06-21-2006, 05:39 PM

I have to start wondering if blade is trying to screw with us now, with all the other stuff said about him playing differently considered. I'm leaving my vote where it is, but I'm going to be thinking about this.

Blade6119 · 06-21-2006, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyrith

Vince said it. And the EG order is not bound by the every other night rule, so if he was afraid of the fanatic he could pretty much barricade himself in his room.

The EG isnt tied to path. If path goes, the EG stays...i dont see a link other then path can order him around, but in doing so will likely get himself killed eventually.

I just dont think he is what you all seem to think he is

Vince · 06-21-2006, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

The bodyguard can only be lost in death or if the pharoh orders him every night to do a bad thing. Killing path would eliminate that second option, thus making the bodyguard more free. Granted, someone else will come along. I just dont understand why path is soo trusted, when i see no reason other then people are afraid of him

I don't trust path. I'm not suspicious of him, but I don't trust him.

You're missing Tyrith's point a little -- IF path is bad, we're already shooting blanks with our guard. There isn't much we can do about it, either. The process of killing path will (probably) take a few days, at the least, and the bad guys will know what we're doing fairly early on, and will plan accordingly. If we try to lynch path, we have to either have three reveals, or just hope that the ruling class is with us, therefore risking a no-lynch day. Which is a pretty bad situation. Combine the fact that there might be a necromancer on the ruling class, and we're looking at some serious roadblocks to getting rid of the pharaoh.

Blade6119 · 06-21-2006, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyrith

I trust path because making him bad makes this game almost impossible for us to win, and because I don't believe hoops is stacking roles on us. Pharaoh + some other bad guy power, likely head, is giving one person a TON of power over the game.

Look at some of our roles..they balance..add the phropecy to the game and no amount of power dis-balances things. I think, you sir, are assuming they know each other and are all plotting powerful acts. I think they are a disjointed mess with maybe 2 finding each other so far.

It makes it far from impossible though, dont think it does for a second

Blade6119 · 06-21-2006, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Vince

I don't trust path. I'm not suspicious of him, but I don't trust him.

You're missing Tyrith's point a little -- IF path is bad, we're already shooting blanks with our guard. There isn't much we can do about it, either. The process of killing path will (probably) take a few days, at the least, and the bad guys will know what we're doing fairly early on, and will plan accordingly. If we try to lynch path, we have to either have three reveals, or just hope that the ruling class is with us, therefore risking a no-lynch day. Which is a pretty bad situation. Combine the fact that there might be a necromancer on the ruling class, and we're looking at some serious roadblocks to getting rid of the pharaoh.

Why are we shooting blanks. Im under the impression so far path hasnt issued a single order. Its not he has to, its a choice. So far, ive assumed the EG has decided everything on his own. Where did path say he has ordered the EG around?

saldana · 06-21-2006, 05:44 PM

just to clarify and reinforce what blade is saying, not necessarily agreeing, just pointing out, that there is nothing in the rules that prevents Path from dying at night.

Vince · 06-21-2006, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

Look at some of our roles..they balance..add the phropecy to the game and no amount of power dis-balances things. I think, you sir, are assuming they know each other and are all plotting powerful acts. I think they are a disjointed mess with maybe 2 finding each other so far.

It makes it far from impossible though, dont think it does for a second

Blade, you're digging yourself deeper and deeper, in my opinion. Look at the prophecy...what do we know about the prophecy? We don't even know that the prophecy is an aid to the good guys. Then, there's your statement at the end...

What makes what far from impossible? The combination of factors you presented in the first paragraph make the statement "Path must be good" far from impossible? "Don't think it does for a second." What does that mean?

Vince · 06-21-2006, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

Why are we shooting blanks. Im under the impression so far path hasnt issued a single order. Its not he has to, its a choice. So far, ive assumed the EG has decided everything on his own. Where did path say he has ordered the EG around?

The only people who would know are Path and the Guard. Do you think the Guard is going to come out and say "Hey, guys, I was ordered somewhere else last night. Gee, I hope they don't try to kill me now." And, in our dream scenario, if path is bad, he's not about to come out and talk about how he is redirecting the guard.

hoopsguy · 06-21-2006, 05:46 PM

Votes as of Post #1174:

Dubb - Alan T (966)
Barkeep - Pass (1053)
Tanglewood - Blade (1066)
Saldana - King (1070), Coffee (1112)
Blade - Dubb (1098)
Chubby - Lathum (1101)
Bek - Chubby (1106), Anxiety (1116)
Bulletsponge - Path (1133), Tyrith (1141), SnDvls (1147)
Path - bullet (1140)

Not Voted - Barkeep, Schmidty, Saldana, Qwikshot, Bek, Vince, Tangle

Vince · 06-21-2006, 05:47 PM

Ok, I'm going to take a step back, because I know Blade is just positing ideas, and that I actually agree that Path might be bad. But damn if it seems like he's trying to be ornery on purpose

Coffee Warlord · 06-21-2006, 05:48 PM

I simply cannot fathom that path would start out as evil, ESPECIALLY if there's a ruling class member who is also evil. It would basically make it damn near impossible to overthrow him.

bulletsponge · 06-21-2006, 05:48 PM

is path the pharaoh?

well that just put the neuce around my neck didnt it. ill change my vote later

Blade6119 · 06-21-2006, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Vince

Blade, you're digging yourself deeper and deeper, in my opinion. Look at the prophecy...what do we know about the prophecy? We don't even know that the prophecy is an aid to the good guys. Then, there's your statement at the end...

What makes what far from impossible? The combination of factors you presented in the first paragraph make the statement "Path must be good" far from impossible? "Don't think it does for a second." What does that mean?

We dont know it, but it SOUNDS more powerful then anything. Which side it chooses is key, but it no pharoh should be able to stop it id imagine.

My last statement merely says dont think its impossible path is bad. Remember the spawn game. The mutiny is soo similar to the ruling class, as it took the other captains to kill ardent. We actually used it and did it. Ardent turned up good, but the one time ive seen a role like the pharoh, ardents captain role, had similar roadblocks and we overcame them.

Alan T · 06-21-2006, 05:49 PM

Unvote Dubb
Vote Bullesponge

I said all along that I don't think that you can just come out and say the ruling class is good. I think if any of them are, we have to assume its likely to be path but I agree that is not gurantuee...

But there is no reason that I can think of right now to try to lynch the pharoah when he has not done anything that seemingly hurt us or against us so far to cause suspicion.

Being Suspicious just for the sake of suspicion is so 2005.

saldana · 06-21-2006, 05:50 PM

so, if there were a necromancer on the ruling council, it would make sense for him to try and whack Path, giving himself a 1 in 3 chance of assuming the throne...then if another necro tried to whack HIM, they would be relying on their 75% chance of recognizing one another.

just in case i die tonight at the lynch, when it becomes clear that you made a mistake (and it will become clear)...i want to put out there that i totally believe in Dubb's reveal, it was obvious to me when it happened what was going on, and Sun wasnt in enough real danger to make it a necessity to save him at the point it happened, so those two are clear.

as far as barkeep goes, i said this morning that i thought he was pretty high up in my list of trust but i had thought of something that dropped him down....i have now realized something else and can give you my list of trusted people.

1 Dubb
2 sndvls
3 barkeep
4 CW

the top 2 are slightly above the lower 2, but they are my top tier, fwiw.

Barkeep49 · 06-21-2006, 05:51 PM

I believe someone suggested earlier that path is neither Egyptian or Necro. That he is instead "above the fray" and has his own victory condition. I believe this to be true. However, if he dies it's also likely there is a replacement who might, or might not, be good/evil.

Schmidty · 06-21-2006, 05:51 PM

Ok, I thought I was going to have time to read this stuff, but I'm doing work at home that I would normally be doing at work. My wife is at work, and I'm alone with my 4 year old daughter, so I'm not having a lot of internet time right now.

I have no idea to vote for, and I don't want to make an uninformed vote that will decide things, so I'm not sure what I'm going to do.

Blade6119 · 06-21-2006, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyrith

I have to start wondering if blade is trying to screw with us now, with all the other stuff said about him playing differently considered. I'm leaving my vote where it is, but I'm going to be thinking about this.

Ive said so far i was going to be gone...i said i would be around for 3 gours today to play, i act like myself and make accusations and piss people off...and im suspected. Tyrith buddy, what do you want me to do?

Passacaglia · 06-21-2006, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Vince

But if we suspect path is bad, then all we have to do is find out which member of the ruling class isn't supporting his ouster, and we lynch them. I think that on the off chance that we decide path is bad, a necromancer on the Ruling Council would be happy to kill path off -- give himself a chance to become Pharaoh, and also solidify some trust.

Even if the member of the ruling class who wasn't supporting his ouster was right? Besides, that's a slow method, based on little. Also, we don't know if the ruling council even gets a chance to become Pharoah.

Vince · 06-21-2006, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

... Remember the spawn game ...

Believe me, I remember the spawn game. Schmidty's lucky I don't vote for him every single day of every werewolf game from now on because of that debacle

Vince · 06-21-2006, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Even if the member of the ruling class who wasn't supporting his ouster was right? Besides, that's a slow method, based on little. Also, we don't know if the ruling council even gets a chance to become Pharoah.

That's sort of the point Tyrith was making that I was defending. If we want to lynch Path, it's going to take some doing. So while I'm not saying that he has to be a good guy, there are far better places to spend our efforts right now than on the Pharaoh.

Passacaglia · 06-21-2006, 06:06 PM

Okay, guys, heading out to celebrate, since I got a job offer today! Woot! Not sure if I'll be back before the lynch -- get a necromancer for me, preferrably the one who tried to kill me!

Blade6119 · 06-21-2006, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Vince

That's sort of the point Tyrith was making that I was defending. If we want to lynch Path, it's going to take some doing. So while I'm not saying that he has to be a good guy, there are far better places to spend our efforts right now than on the Pharaoh.

I agree with that point, but tyrith was saying path is good, and its impossible for him to be bad. That i dont agree with.

Vince · 06-21-2006, 06:07 PM

Yeah, I know. The point I was defending was that it would take a lot of doing to unseat path as Pharaoh, and that it would be an incredibly difficult thing for the good guys to overcome.

Vince · 06-21-2006, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Okay, guys, heading out to celebrate, since I got a job offer today! Woot! Not sure if I'll be back before the lynch -- get a necromancer for me, preferrably the one who tried to kill me!

Congratulations!

Blade6119 · 06-21-2006, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Vince

Yeah, I know. The point I was defending was that it would take a lot of doing to unseat path as Pharaoh, and that it would be an incredibly difficult thing for the good guys to overcome.

We overcame it in Spawn, and by we i mean not you

.

I was right about you, just a few days early

hoopsguy · 06-21-2006, 06:14 PM

I think Vince remembers perfectly well who was the pain in his ass in the Spawn game

Vince · 06-21-2006, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

I think Vince remembers perfectly well who was the pain in his ass in the Spawn game

...

Vince · 06-21-2006, 06:16 PM

You really wouldn't let go of that "Vince could have been converted" logic. You were the only one for like two days...then it all came a-crumblin' down.

Vince · 06-21-2006, 06:18 PM

Man, I'm not real happy with the way things are looking right now. The arguments for bulletsponge are pretty flimsy (though the vote for path is sort of indefensible), but there really isn't anyone else who is standing out either. I have to go soon, too.

Barkeep49 · 06-21-2006, 06:19 PM

Woudl this be a bad time to announce that if all goes according to plan the next WW game will be Spawn 2?

bulletsponge · 06-21-2006, 06:20 PM

ok after rereading the 3rd page i see where hoops clearly states that path is the pharoh, and most likely a good guy. he goes down on my suspicious list and that leave me 4 other peeps whom i suspect.

Unvote path

Barkeep49 · 06-21-2006, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Vince

Man, I'm not real happy with the way things are looking right now. The arguments for bulletsponge are pretty flimsy (though the vote for path is sort of indefensible), but there really isn't anyone else who is standing out either. I have to go soon, too.

I happen to agree with the bullets arguments being flimsy. Am thinking that putting some pressure on Bek might be a good idea.

06-21-2006, 05:32 PM	#1160
Vince Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Willow Glen, CA	But if we suspect path is bad, then all we have to do is find out which member of the ruling class isn't supporting his ouster, and we lynch them. I think that on the off chance that we decide path is bad, a necromancer on the Ruling Council would be happy to kill path off -- give himself a chance to become Pharaoh, and also solidify some trust. __________________ Every time a Dodger scores a run, an angel has its wings ripped off by a demon, and is forced to tearfully beg the demon to cauterize the wounds.The demon will refuse, and the sobbing angel will lie in a puddle of angel blood and feathers for eternity, wondering why the Dodgers are allowed to score runs.That’s not me talking: that’s science. McCoveyChronicles.com.

06-21-2006, 05:33 PM	#1162
Vince Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Willow Glen, CA	We'd lose the bodyguard because Path has the ability to order the bodyguard around. So he could just order the bodyguard to protect someone that he's not going after, therefore eliminating his benefit. __________________ Every time a Dodger scores a run, an angel has its wings ripped off by a demon, and is forced to tearfully beg the demon to cauterize the wounds.The demon will refuse, and the sobbing angel will lie in a puddle of angel blood and feathers for eternity, wondering why the Dodgers are allowed to score runs.That’s not me talking: that’s science. McCoveyChronicles.com.

06-21-2006, 05:47 PM	#1177
Vince Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Willow Glen, CA	Ok, I'm going to take a step back, because I know Blade is just positing ideas, and that I actually agree that Path might be bad. But damn if it seems like he's trying to be ornery on purpose __________________ Every time a Dodger scores a run, an angel has its wings ripped off by a demon, and is forced to tearfully beg the demon to cauterize the wounds.The demon will refuse, and the sobbing angel will lie in a puddle of angel blood and feathers for eternity, wondering why the Dodgers are allowed to score runs.That’s not me talking: that’s science. McCoveyChronicles.com.

06-21-2006, 05:51 PM	#1184
Schmidty Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Early, TX	Ok, I thought I was going to have time to read this stuff, but I'm doing work at home that I would normally be doing at work. My wife is at work, and I'm alone with my 4 year old daughter, so I'm not having a lot of internet time right now. I have no idea to vote for, and I don't want to make an uninformed vote that will decide things, so I'm not sure what I'm going to do. __________________ Just beat the devil out of it!!! - Bob Ross

06-21-2006, 06:07 PM	#1191
Vince Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Willow Glen, CA	Yeah, I know. The point I was defending was that it would take a lot of doing to unseat path as Pharaoh, and that it would be an incredibly difficult thing for the good guys to overcome. __________________ Every time a Dodger scores a run, an angel has its wings ripped off by a demon, and is forced to tearfully beg the demon to cauterize the wounds.The demon will refuse, and the sobbing angel will lie in a puddle of angel blood and feathers for eternity, wondering why the Dodgers are allowed to score runs.That’s not me talking: that’s science. McCoveyChronicles.com.

06-21-2006, 05:30 PM	#1156
Tyrith College Starter Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Houston, TX	Out until after lynch.

06-21-2006, 05:31 PM	#1157
saldana Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bethlehem, Pa	again, i am in that lovely position where i fucked up yesterday and am on the block for it today. perhaps i can engender a bit of trust from one of my votes since king doesnt want to move....at this point i will be saving my casting in case i need it for self preservation later. unvote barkeep

06-21-2006, 05:31 PM	#1158
tanglewood College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2004	Bek's vote strikes me as a combination of inexperience and stupidity, not anything malicious or an indicator that he may be a necro. Just take your vote off him Bek, he won't be lynched today no matter what anyway. I had actually forgotten that soothsayer is neutral role until Blade's bolded post, so thanks for that it was of some use after all.

06-21-2006, 05:31 PM	#1159
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	WHy is he invincible at night? My fear is not that path is evil but that whoever would become pharoah after path was killed would be evil.

06-21-2006, 05:36 PM	#1165
Tyrith College Starter Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Houston, TX	Vince said it. And the EG order is not bound by the every other night rule, so if he was afraid of the fanatic he could pretty much barricade himself in his room.

06-21-2006, 05:38 PM	#1167
Tyrith College Starter Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Houston, TX	I trust path because making him bad makes this game almost impossible for us to win, and because I don't believe hoops is stacking roles on us. Pharaoh + some other bad guy power, likely head, is giving one person a TON of power over the game.

06-21-2006, 05:39 PM	#1168
Tyrith College Starter Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Houston, TX	I have to start wondering if blade is trying to screw with us now, with all the other stuff said about him playing differently considered. I'm leaving my vote where it is, but I'm going to be thinking about this.

06-21-2006, 05:44 PM	#1173
saldana Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bethlehem, Pa	just to clarify and reinforce what blade is saying, not necessarily agreeing, just pointing out, that there is nothing in the rules that prevents Path from dying at night.

06-21-2006, 05:46 PM	#1176
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Votes as of Post #1174: Dubb - Alan T (966) Barkeep - Pass (1053) Tanglewood - Blade (1066) Saldana - King (1070), Coffee (1112) Blade - Dubb (1098) Chubby - Lathum (1101) Bek - Chubby (1106), Anxiety (1116) Bulletsponge - Path (1133), Tyrith (1141), SnDvls (1147) Path - bullet (1140) Not Voted - Barkeep, Schmidty, Saldana, Qwikshot, Bek, Vince, Tangle

06-21-2006, 05:48 PM	#1178
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	I simply cannot fathom that path would start out as evil, ESPECIALLY if there's a ruling class member who is also evil. It would basically make it damn near impossible to overthrow him.

06-21-2006, 05:48 PM	#1179
bulletsponge Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: TX	is path the pharaoh? well that just put the neuce around my neck didnt it. ill change my vote later

06-21-2006, 05:49 PM	#1181
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	Unvote Dubb Vote Bullesponge I said all along that I don't think that you can just come out and say the ruling class is good. I think if any of them are, we have to assume its likely to be path but I agree that is not gurantuee... But there is no reason that I can think of right now to try to lynch the pharoah when he has not done anything that seemingly hurt us or against us so far to cause suspicion. Being Suspicious just for the sake of suspicion is so 2005.

06-21-2006, 05:50 PM	#1182
saldana Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bethlehem, Pa	so, if there were a necromancer on the ruling council, it would make sense for him to try and whack Path, giving himself a 1 in 3 chance of assuming the throne...then if another necro tried to whack HIM, they would be relying on their 75% chance of recognizing one another. just in case i die tonight at the lynch, when it becomes clear that you made a mistake (and it will become clear)...i want to put out there that i totally believe in Dubb's reveal, it was obvious to me when it happened what was going on, and Sun wasnt in enough real danger to make it a necessity to save him at the point it happened, so those two are clear. as far as barkeep goes, i said this morning that i thought he was pretty high up in my list of trust but i had thought of something that dropped him down....i have now realized something else and can give you my list of trusted people. 1 Dubb 2 sndvls 3 barkeep 4 CW the top 2 are slightly above the lower 2, but they are my top tier, fwiw.

06-21-2006, 05:51 PM	#1183
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	I believe someone suggested earlier that path is neither Egyptian or Necro. That he is instead "above the fray" and has his own victory condition. I believe this to be true. However, if he dies it's also likely there is a replacement who might, or might not, be good/evil.

06-21-2006, 06:06 PM	#1189
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	Okay, guys, heading out to celebrate, since I got a job offer today! Woot! Not sure if I'll be back before the lynch -- get a necromancer for me, preferrably the one who tried to kill me!

06-21-2006, 06:14 PM	#1194
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	I think Vince remembers perfectly well who was the pain in his ass in the Spawn game

06-21-2006, 06:16 PM	#1196
Vince Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Willow Glen, CA	You really wouldn't let go of that "Vince could have been converted" logic. You were the only one for like two days...then it all came a-crumblin' down. __________________ Every time a Dodger scores a run, an angel has its wings ripped off by a demon, and is forced to tearfully beg the demon to cauterize the wounds.The demon will refuse, and the sobbing angel will lie in a puddle of angel blood and feathers for eternity, wondering why the Dodgers are allowed to score runs.That’s not me talking: that’s science. McCoveyChronicles.com.

06-21-2006, 06:18 PM	#1197
Vince Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Willow Glen, CA	Man, I'm not real happy with the way things are looking right now. The arguments for bulletsponge are pretty flimsy (though the vote for path is sort of indefensible), but there really isn't anyone else who is standing out either. I have to go soon, too. __________________ Every time a Dodger scores a run, an angel has its wings ripped off by a demon, and is forced to tearfully beg the demon to cauterize the wounds.The demon will refuse, and the sobbing angel will lie in a puddle of angel blood and feathers for eternity, wondering why the Dodgers are allowed to score runs.That’s not me talking: that’s science. McCoveyChronicles.com.

06-21-2006, 06:19 PM	#1198
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	Woudl this be a bad time to announce that if all goes according to plan the next WW game will be Spawn 2?

06-21-2006, 06:20 PM	#1199
bulletsponge Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: TX	ok after rereading the 3rd page i see where hoops clearly states that path is the pharoh, and most likely a good guy. he goes down on my suspicious list and that leave me 4 other peeps whom i suspect. Unvote path

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