WW XXIV: Treasure Hunt (GAME OVER!) - Page 24

Vince · 02-26-2006, 12:09 AM

Sorry guys, got called in to work a double shift today, and I'm exhausted. 9 hours of waiting tables = not fun. $211 dollars is kind of nice, though.

Anyway, I'm going to go pass out, and I'll catch up in the morning.

Grammaticus · 02-26-2006, 09:31 AM

Well, I don't know if this is too late or not. I just realized the deadline was 8am, but Barkeep has not posted or closed it yet either. So just in case he will still accept my vote

VOTE ARDENT

For some reason I had thought I voted earlier, but when I looked I had not.

Grammaticus · 02-26-2006, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by path12

This is a very interesting idea. I want to mull it over a little bit. And I agree with what Gram said earlier -- rivers and mountains are whar that gold lies, boys.

I'm guessing a jungle square will yield more than a blank square as well.

Vince · 02-26-2006, 02:09 PM

Kind of forgot that 8 AM would be before I woke up

In any case, I probably would have voted for Ardent, so it doesn't really matter.

I'm curious -- does anyone have a bank account set up yet? Seems like Saldana had set one up, but then got killed almost immediately after. I'm also curious as to how much gold Qwikshot has -- Saldana willed him everything he had. So far we've come a little farther in the organization/monopoly building direction, but we're still not anywhere near 'coordinated.' I think I'm going to continue to dig tomorrow.

Vince · 02-26-2006, 02:16 PM

Path -- how was G2 for digging? I'm considering travelling out there some time soon, and was just curious if it was worth my time.

pennywisesb · 02-26-2006, 03:25 PM

Vince, I established a savings account the second day.

I found gold on day one and day two, but day three the square I went to was tapped out.

path12 · 02-26-2006, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Vince

Path -- how was G2 for digging? I'm considering travelling out there some time soon, and was just curious if it was worth my time.

How should we handle info like this? If it is very good, we could cause a rush which could make easy pickin' for a pirate, or run out of gold quickly, but if it's bad I'd like to warn my fellow TH's to look elsewhere.

I'd be happy to tell you, but kind of want to throw that issue out there first.

path12 · 02-26-2006, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Grammaticus

I'm guessing a jungle square will yield more than a blank square as well.

Building on my last post, I'm curious about any results that people have had in jungles -- I haven't visited one yet.

Barkeep49 · 02-26-2006, 04:05 PM

Ok after a bit of thought I'm going to call the game. Full writeup to be forth coming.

path12 · 02-26-2006, 04:07 PM

Poli · 02-26-2006, 04:09 PM

By the way, I never officially quit. I was trying to fake you all out of voting for me. Kudos for not biting.

kingfc22 · 02-26-2006, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Ok after a bit of thought I'm going to call the game. Full writeup to be forth coming.

hoopsguy · 02-26-2006, 04:10 PM

Shiver me timbers! Them blasted treasure hunters have thrown all of my maties in Davy Jones' locker!

Poli · 02-26-2006, 04:12 PM

Arrrh! But we be killing three of 'em, matey! And we ran off we thar gold!

Poli · 02-26-2006, 04:14 PM

These scurvy wogs are lousy hunters, indeed. Cap'n we be needn' our mercenaries to wipe them all out, we do.

Poli · 02-26-2006, 04:14 PM

Thens we be feasting in gold. Brother, blade, be cheerful, be gold and women in our future!

Barkeep49 · 02-26-2006, 04:15 PM

The police come in. Many people just lay about apathetically while others point at Ardent. Ardent tries to point to that old coot Qwik, but the police don't care. They take Ardent away.

Shady comes wondering into the hut.

"Ok I think people are a little slow here. I mean you've been jailing people and not one discussion of commerce? Everyone take out your gold now."

When no one really moves, Shady gets irritated, "Listen just take out your gold Blokes. You'll like what you see."

As people do so they soon come to the realization that they have more than enough gold to purchese a monopoly. With great enthuasism, path, Alan T, pennywise, KWhit, Qwikshot, Grammaticus, Taz, king, schmidty, and Vince hand over the 100 GP. They join Hoops in the knowledge that they have "won" and start to think about how they will enjoy the wealth that they will soon take from the island, enough wealth to last them a lifetime... as long as they are smart with it.

kingfc22 · 02-26-2006, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Shiver me timbers! Them blasted treasure hunters have thrown all of my maties in Davy Jones' locker!

I knew there was something fishy about you.

Poli · 02-26-2006, 04:16 PM

They be so surprised they lost their tungs, cap'n!!! Me parrot be talkin' more than these wogs! Garrr!!

Poli · 02-26-2006, 04:16 PM

There be somethin' fishy bout you when you walk the plank, wog!!!

hoopsguy · 02-26-2006, 04:17 PM

King, was that before or after Post #694?

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Hoops you are now 100% in my book

Poli · 02-26-2006, 04:18 PM

Shady be shady, matey! He be killin' you for yer gold tonight!

Desnudo · 02-26-2006, 04:19 PM

Good job guys!

Poli · 02-26-2006, 04:19 PM

It be after post 1163, cap'n.

Barkeep49 · 02-26-2006, 04:21 PM

I've always said that I'm ok with short games and felt that continuing this one would just be needlessly prolonging the inevitable. While it was possible that no suspicion would be arisen after 1 morning with no kill I figured 2 mornings with no kill would give it away and essentially have wasted people's time, so I called it.

As you might have been able to tell Hoops, Blade, and Ardent were the three pirates. With Hoops having taken the letter and won and Blade and Ardent in jail with no real chance of escape, I thought about continuing the game, but it just didn't make sense. Especially as path, who found the knife which would have turned him into a pirate if he'd kept it, chose to turn it in to the police.

While I did not make a mistake with Ardent's actions (I was SUPER careful about that) I do feel bad that he and Blade didn't fully understand fleet of foot. I thought that both knew about and processed their actions accordingly.

Now that everyone understands the rules I hope that I can run this game again in the not too distant future. I still have several surprises up my sleeve (for instance while Taz got both parts of the clue for the Burried Treasure, it wasn't found) and based on how things played out feel that it is a pretty balanced set of rules. I appreciate everyone playing for the time they put in and hope that even though it was shorter than many games, they still enjoyed it.

hoopsguy · 02-26-2006, 04:23 PM

Arrr, I felt marooned after Day 1 by the other two sea dogs who put themselves out on the plank for no good reason. Too much rum and those dead men told no tales.

Barkeep49 · 02-26-2006, 04:23 PM

DOLA -- If I ran it again I have a couple things that I would include that I thought of after the game started and would do it on a new map.

The necklace that Path bought would have erased the first 5 votes against him. Obviously as he never had a vote on him this was never discovered.

Hats off to Gram who despite being very quite in the thread ended the game with 37 gold, followed closely by one of the athlete's Alan who got 34.

Poli · 02-26-2006, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

While I did not make a mistake with Ardent's actions (I was SUPER careful about that) I do feel bad that he and Blade didn't fully understand fleet of foot. I thought that both knew about and processed their actions accordingly.

Bah. Had I known that required a fleet of foot action I wouldn't have done it. I didn't want anyone to know I was a pirate, and I never would have used it. It would have been too easy to catch if I did...and obviously, that happened.

Assuming I was using it when I never mentioned it really screwed me over.

Barkeep49 · 02-26-2006, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

Bah. Had I known that required a fleet of foot action I wouldn't have done it. I didn't want anyone to know I was a pirate, and I never would have used it. It would have been too easy to catch if I did...and obviously, that happened.

Assuming I was using it when I never mentioned it really screwed me over.

I know and I feel bad. It'll be changed for next game.

hoopsguy · 02-26-2006, 04:25 PM

Barkeep, I thought the rule set played out very well, although it definitely took some time to get to a level of comfort with them. I think I was getting close to that point by the final day.

I thought Taz played a really good game. Based on his posts, he seemed to grasp the rules and their impact more quickly than many of the players in this game.

Poli · 02-26-2006, 04:26 PM

No worries. I screwed over The Others in my game as well.

Poli · 02-26-2006, 04:27 PM

By the way, getting hoops out was my main priority. One pirate win is a pirate win for all...given the circumstances.

I'll post the real letter soon.

hoopsguy · 02-26-2006, 04:28 PM

I would love to have stayed and seen how long I could stay undercover, but without any immediate prospects for a 2nd pirate I didn't see how I could really stop a monopoly.

I would have liked to see where the voting would have gone in the event that I was still around and Blade/AE had been jailed. I think it would have been a bit of a free-for-all that day.

path12 · 02-26-2006, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

I've always said that I'm ok with short games and felt that continuing this one would just be needlessly prolonging the inevitable. While it was possible that no suspicion would be arisen after 1 morning with no kill I figured 2 mornings with no kill would give it away and essentially have wasted people's time, so I called it.

As you might have been able to tell Hoops, Blade, and Ardent were the three pirates. With Hoops having taken the letter and won and Blade and Ardent in jail with no real chance of escape, I thought about continuing the game, but it just didn't make sense. Especially as path, who found the knife which would have turned him into a pirate if he'd kept it, chose to turn it in to the police.

While I did not make a mistake with Ardent's actions (I was SUPER careful about that) I do feel bad that he and Blade didn't fully understand fleet of foot. I thought that both knew about and processed their actions accordingly.

Now that everyone understands the rules I hope that I can run this game again in the not too distant future. I still have several surprises up my sleeve (for instance while Taz got both parts of the clue for the Burried Treasure, it wasn't found) and based on how things played out feel that it is a pretty balanced set of rules. I appreciate everyone playing for the time they put in and hope that even though it was shorter than many games, they still enjoyed it.

I really enjoyed this ruleset barkeep, and hope you do run another one like it. So what exactly was going on with hoops? (who had me totally fooled, I thought he was 85% good).

Poli · 02-26-2006, 04:29 PM

Barkeep49
College Starter

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Re: Werewolf

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Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

The pirates rule. The villagers drool.

You open the envelope to find the following:
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I have some friends and they help me get some goods in and out of the island that otherwise would not be possible. This letter entitles you to board the ship on turn 5 on any day. They will ferry you away from the island for the small cost of only 10 GP. ~Shady

Use of the ticket is an automatic victory for you.

hoopsguy · 02-26-2006, 04:32 PM

King, post #609 did scare the crap out of me at the time:

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So it looks like Hoops is going to be viewing the evidence? I would suggest that someone watch Hoops and that RA veiws hoops. That should build a nice circle of trust.

I allowed myself to get caught up in thinking that the watches would act like a seer, instead of realizing that this really didn't pose a threat to us. So that is when I started to try and shift to have KWhit do the viewing on Blade instead of Ardent.

I felt like I had been fairly subtle in introducing AE as someone to view Blade (we had not yet decided if he would say pirate or treasure hunter) but after that I was worried that I had outed him. Nope, although he did that with the PM just a few posts later.

kingfc22 · 02-26-2006, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

King, was that before or after Post #694?

It was after you listed me as a 5 or 6 on your trust list. I knew I was playing heavily like a TH and for you to only list me as a 5 or 6 sent alarms ringing.

Then I posted this:

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Originally Posted by kingfc22

Of course if Hoops is a Pirate we are screwed. Could he have kept the gold and "outed" Blade gaining our trust. Knowing that even if any of us did view Blade later on they would still find that he was a Pirate.

At this point, you were gone so there was no point in pursing this option since AE's day 1 story didn't make sense.

Poli · 02-26-2006, 04:33 PM

I had 6 gold, but no hopes whatsoever of obtaining 10 and jumping on the boat.

Instead, I killed Desnudo based on his name on the list...and then sat at the bank swinging a knife...which hit saldana. I didn't even bother hiding it.

Had you read the posts, I said I went to the square right below the bank. What's on the way? The bank.

Poli · 02-26-2006, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Nope, although he did that with the PM just a few posts later.

And I didn't realize I had at all. I think I'll be angry about that for the next week.

kingfc22 · 02-26-2006, 04:36 PM

And I think I kept the taxi cab's in business.

Poli · 02-26-2006, 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingfc22

At this point, you were gone so there was no point in pursing this option since AE's day 1 story didn't make sense.

Oh, it made sense. Barkeep did mess up by assuming I wanted the fleet move. Had he asked, I would have changed my move to the original PM.

I noticed the next day he took the time to clarify a few moves, Desnudo's in particular (the person I killed).

hoopsguy · 02-26-2006, 04:36 PM

Path, when we first learned the roles of the pirates we were pretty pumped up for playing this one out. Blade and I have talked a ton in the past about how we would play a game together as "wolves" and Ardent is a guy who has done a solid job on both sides of the game in the past.

But Day 1 was such a disaster for us as we didn't do a good job collectively of understanding the different mechanics of this game. So I tried to isolate myself as much as possible from those two.

When I did the view on Blade I didn't need to spend 4 GP to know what he was. So instead I deposited it in the bank and used my visit to the jail to free him (I was the swashbuckler).

The rest of the game I played as a treasure hunter, just going about my business of finding gold. But I knew we were not going to be able to stop a monopoly, so when Ardent got the letter we decided to have me cash in that chip. We concocted a story together that was intended to move popular opinion away from AE as a pirate. But the problem was that we weren't able to get any movement on an alternative for jailing.

Poli · 02-26-2006, 04:41 PM

Qwik, I wasn't upset with you, either. I was just trying to sway the voters.

hoopsguy · 02-26-2006, 04:41 PM

King, fair enough on the rebuttal. Just having some fun, hope you didn't get too annoyed at it.

On the list I published I wasn't sure where I felt like we could put pressure. But I also didn't think it made sense to have a list with everyone as an 8. I had to leave room for people to interpret it after I was gone in a way that might give options besides AE. By coming out so strongly against him I was hoping that people would later think that he was trying to help the TH cause by sending me away as a "known good".

Nothing that we tried this game worked particularly well.

Heck, I couldn't even get compensated for the 4 GP I didn't spend verifying Blade

Only got one from Path, which I figured I could give back to him since I was out and it would help validate me as a good guy if he viewed Blade.

kingfc22 · 02-26-2006, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

King, fair enough on the rebuttal. Just having some fun, hope you didn't get too annoyed at it.

Not at all.

Schmidty · 02-26-2006, 05:02 PM

Woot!

Nice game, Barkeep.

path12 · 02-26-2006, 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Path, when we first learned the roles of the pirates we were pretty pumped up for playing this one out. Blade and I have talked a ton in the past about how we would play a game together as "wolves" and Ardent is a guy who has done a solid job on both sides of the game in the past.

But Day 1 was such a disaster for us as we didn't do a good job collectively of understanding the different mechanics of this game. So I tried to isolate myself as much as possible from those two.

Yeah, I think the complexity of the ruleset combined with Blade being busy enough to not have them straight really helped us -- it was the first time I really felt that I had caught someone out -- and having that be Blade was even better.

Never having had a bad role in one of these though I'm kind of kicking myself for making the knife public......that would have been fun.

hoopsguy · 02-26-2006, 05:30 PM

You would have been lonely, Path. All by yourself and no real way to stop monopoly. Not the way I would want to be a bad guy for the first time in a game.

Blade6119 · 02-26-2006, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by path12

Yeah, I think the complexity of the ruleset combined with Blade being busy enough to not have them straight really helped us -- it was the first time I really felt that I had caught someone out -- and having that be Blade was even better.

Never having had a bad role in one of these though I'm kind of kicking myself for making the knife public......that would have been fun.

Ya, i didnt spend enough time on the rules to properly interpret them. I entirely glossed over the same amount of gold for each dig. Rookie mistake...im impressed you guys caught it. But the second someone noted it my only goal was to clear hoops...i tried to not even mention ardent so there was no link between them or myself, but tried everything in my power to clear hoops without making it look like i was clearing hoops. Up until he "viewed me" i always mentioned him second or third to someone else...that way if you guys ever did think i was trying to clear another pirate you wouldnt get him. Then you all let him view the evidence, and it became straight forward. The ardent slip-up put us deep in the hole, but i took comfort that my death cleared hoops.

Alan T · 02-26-2006, 05:35 PM

I really enjoyed this game... I had to be careful about what I told people I did because if everyone knew my daily actions, I would have been suspected to be a pirate just like AE.

I found the very top right square had 6 gold per turn, and had planned to go back visiting it some more in the near future.

For the record, I did use my fleet of foot every turn, it just took me one turn to figure out where the good gold was.

02-26-2006, 12:09 AM	#1151
Vince Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Willow Glen, CA	Sorry guys, got called in to work a double shift today, and I'm exhausted. 9 hours of waiting tables = not fun. $211 dollars is kind of nice, though. Anyway, I'm going to go pass out, and I'll catch up in the morning. __________________ Every time a Dodger scores a run, an angel has its wings ripped off by a demon, and is forced to tearfully beg the demon to cauterize the wounds.The demon will refuse, and the sobbing angel will lie in a puddle of angel blood and feathers for eternity, wondering why the Dodgers are allowed to score runs.That’s not me talking: that’s science. McCoveyChronicles.com.

02-26-2006, 02:09 PM	#1154
Vince Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Willow Glen, CA	Kind of forgot that 8 AM would be before I woke up In any case, I probably would have voted for Ardent, so it doesn't really matter. I'm curious -- does anyone have a bank account set up yet? Seems like Saldana had set one up, but then got killed almost immediately after. I'm also curious as to how much gold Qwikshot has -- Saldana willed him everything he had. So far we've come a little farther in the organization/monopoly building direction, but we're still not anywhere near 'coordinated.' I think I'm going to continue to dig tomorrow. __________________ Every time a Dodger scores a run, an angel has its wings ripped off by a demon, and is forced to tearfully beg the demon to cauterize the wounds.The demon will refuse, and the sobbing angel will lie in a puddle of angel blood and feathers for eternity, wondering why the Dodgers are allowed to score runs.That’s not me talking: that’s science. McCoveyChronicles.com.

02-26-2006, 02:16 PM	#1155
Vince Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Willow Glen, CA	Path -- how was G2 for digging? I'm considering travelling out there some time soon, and was just curious if it was worth my time. __________________ Every time a Dodger scores a run, an angel has its wings ripped off by a demon, and is forced to tearfully beg the demon to cauterize the wounds.The demon will refuse, and the sobbing angel will lie in a puddle of angel blood and feathers for eternity, wondering why the Dodgers are allowed to score runs.That’s not me talking: that’s science. McCoveyChronicles.com.

02-26-2006, 03:25 PM	#1156
pennywisesb College Benchwarmer Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Los Angeles, California	Vince, I established a savings account the second day. I found gold on day one and day two, but day three the square I went to was tapped out. __________________ Myspace Profile

02-26-2006, 04:07 PM	#1160
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	Huh? __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

02-26-2006, 09:31 AM	#1152
Grammaticus Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Tennessee	Well, I don't know if this is too late or not. I just realized the deadline was 8am, but Barkeep has not posted or closed it yet either. So just in case he will still accept my vote VOTE ARDENT For some reason I had thought I voted earlier, but when I looked I had not.

02-26-2006, 04:05 PM	#1159
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	Ok after a bit of thought I'm going to call the game. Full writeup to be forth coming.

02-26-2006, 04:09 PM	#1161
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	By the way, I never officially quit. I was trying to fake you all out of voting for me. Kudos for not biting. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

02-26-2006, 04:10 PM	#1163
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Shiver me timbers! Them blasted treasure hunters have thrown all of my maties in Davy Jones' locker!

02-26-2006, 04:12 PM	#1164
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	Arrrh! But we be killing three of 'em, matey! And we ran off we thar gold! __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

02-26-2006, 04:14 PM	#1165
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	These scurvy wogs are lousy hunters, indeed. Cap'n we be needn' our mercenaries to wipe them all out, we do. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

02-26-2006, 04:14 PM	#1166
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	Thens we be feasting in gold. Brother, blade, be cheerful, be gold and women in our future! __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

02-26-2006, 04:15 PM	#1167
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	The police come in. Many people just lay about apathetically while others point at Ardent. Ardent tries to point to that old coot Qwik, but the police don't care. They take Ardent away. Shady comes wondering into the hut. "Ok I think people are a little slow here. I mean you've been jailing people and not one discussion of commerce? Everyone take out your gold now." When no one really moves, Shady gets irritated, "Listen just take out your gold Blokes. You'll like what you see." As people do so they soon come to the realization that they have more than enough gold to purchese a monopoly. With great enthuasism, path, Alan T, pennywise, KWhit, Qwikshot, Grammaticus, Taz, king, schmidty, and Vince hand over the 100 GP. They join Hoops in the knowledge that they have "won" and start to think about how they will enjoy the wealth that they will soon take from the island, enough wealth to last them a lifetime... as long as they are smart with it.

02-26-2006, 04:16 PM	#1169
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	They be so surprised they lost their tungs, cap'n!!! Me parrot be talkin' more than these wogs! Garrr!! __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

02-26-2006, 04:16 PM	#1170
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	There be somethin' fishy bout you when you walk the plank, wog!!! __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

02-26-2006, 04:18 PM	#1172
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	Shady be shady, matey! He be killin' you for yer gold tonight! __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

02-26-2006, 04:19 PM	#1173
Desnudo Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Here and There	Good job guys!

02-26-2006, 04:19 PM	#1174
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	It be after post 1163, cap'n. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

02-26-2006, 04:21 PM	#1175
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	I've always said that I'm ok with short games and felt that continuing this one would just be needlessly prolonging the inevitable. While it was possible that no suspicion would be arisen after 1 morning with no kill I figured 2 mornings with no kill would give it away and essentially have wasted people's time, so I called it. As you might have been able to tell Hoops, Blade, and Ardent were the three pirates. With Hoops having taken the letter and won and Blade and Ardent in jail with no real chance of escape, I thought about continuing the game, but it just didn't make sense. Especially as path, who found the knife which would have turned him into a pirate if he'd kept it, chose to turn it in to the police. While I did not make a mistake with Ardent's actions (I was SUPER careful about that) I do feel bad that he and Blade didn't fully understand fleet of foot. I thought that both knew about and processed their actions accordingly. Now that everyone understands the rules I hope that I can run this game again in the not too distant future. I still have several surprises up my sleeve (for instance while Taz got both parts of the clue for the Burried Treasure, it wasn't found) and based on how things played out feel that it is a pretty balanced set of rules. I appreciate everyone playing for the time they put in and hope that even though it was shorter than many games, they still enjoyed it.

02-26-2006, 04:23 PM	#1176
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Arrr, I felt marooned after Day 1 by the other two sea dogs who put themselves out on the plank for no good reason. Too much rum and those dead men told no tales.

02-26-2006, 04:23 PM	#1177
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	DOLA -- If I ran it again I have a couple things that I would include that I thought of after the game started and would do it on a new map. The necklace that Path bought would have erased the first 5 votes against him. Obviously as he never had a vote on him this was never discovered. Hats off to Gram who despite being very quite in the thread ended the game with 37 gold, followed closely by one of the athlete's Alan who got 34. Last edited by Barkeep49 : 02-26-2006 at 04:24 PM.

02-26-2006, 04:25 PM	#1180
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Barkeep, I thought the rule set played out very well, although it definitely took some time to get to a level of comfort with them. I think I was getting close to that point by the final day. I thought Taz played a really good game. Based on his posts, he seemed to grasp the rules and their impact more quickly than many of the players in this game.

02-26-2006, 04:26 PM	#1181
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	No worries. I screwed over The Others in my game as well. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

02-26-2006, 04:27 PM	#1182
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	By the way, getting hoops out was my main priority. One pirate win is a pirate win for all...given the circumstances. I'll post the real letter soon. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

02-26-2006, 04:28 PM	#1183
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	I would love to have stayed and seen how long I could stay undercover, but without any immediate prospects for a 2nd pirate I didn't see how I could really stop a monopoly. I would have liked to see where the voting would have gone in the event that I was still around and Blade/AE had been jailed. I think it would have been a bit of a free-for-all that day.

02-26-2006, 04:33 PM	#1188
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	I had 6 gold, but no hopes whatsoever of obtaining 10 and jumping on the boat. Instead, I killed Desnudo based on his name on the list...and then sat at the bank swinging a knife...which hit saldana. I didn't even bother hiding it. Had you read the posts, I said I went to the square right below the bank. What's on the way? The bank. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

02-26-2006, 04:36 PM	#1190
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	And I think I kept the taxi cab's in business. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

02-26-2006, 04:36 PM	#1192
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Path, when we first learned the roles of the pirates we were pretty pumped up for playing this one out. Blade and I have talked a ton in the past about how we would play a game together as "wolves" and Ardent is a guy who has done a solid job on both sides of the game in the past. But Day 1 was such a disaster for us as we didn't do a good job collectively of understanding the different mechanics of this game. So I tried to isolate myself as much as possible from those two. When I did the view on Blade I didn't need to spend 4 GP to know what he was. So instead I deposited it in the bank and used my visit to the jail to free him (I was the swashbuckler). The rest of the game I played as a treasure hunter, just going about my business of finding gold. But I knew we were not going to be able to stop a monopoly, so when Ardent got the letter we decided to have me cash in that chip. We concocted a story together that was intended to move popular opinion away from AE as a pirate. But the problem was that we weren't able to get any movement on an alternative for jailing.

02-26-2006, 04:41 PM	#1193
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	Qwik, I wasn't upset with you, either. I was just trying to sway the voters. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

02-26-2006, 04:41 PM	#1194
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	King, fair enough on the rebuttal. Just having some fun, hope you didn't get too annoyed at it. On the list I published I wasn't sure where I felt like we could put pressure. But I also didn't think it made sense to have a list with everyone as an 8. I had to leave room for people to interpret it after I was gone in a way that might give options besides AE. By coming out so strongly against him I was hoping that people would later think that he was trying to help the TH cause by sending me away as a "known good". Nothing that we tried this game worked particularly well. Heck, I couldn't even get compensated for the 4 GP I didn't spend verifying Blade Only got one from Path, which I figured I could give back to him since I was out and it would help validate me as a good guy if he viewed Blade.

02-26-2006, 05:02 PM	#1196
Schmidty Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Early, TX	Woot! Nice game, Barkeep. __________________ Just beat the devil out of it!!! - Bob Ross

02-26-2006, 05:30 PM	#1198
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	You would have been lonely, Path. All by yourself and no real way to stop monopoly. Not the way I would want to be a bad guy for the first time in a game.

02-26-2006, 05:35 PM	#1200
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	I really enjoyed this game... I had to be careful about what I told people I did because if everyone knew my daily actions, I would have been suspected to be a pirate just like AE. I found the very top right square had 6 gold per turn, and had planned to go back visiting it some more in the near future. For the record, I did use my fleet of foot every turn, it just took me one turn to figure out where the good gold was.

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