07-30-2007, 09:02 PM | #1101 |
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07-30-2007, 09:03 PM | #1102 |
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Nice of me to quote the wrong post. Great, I am a dead villager. Good luck to you guys as you put this noose around my neck.
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07-30-2007, 09:04 PM | #1103 |
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I have this as the final vote:
Vote count: 7 - Antmeister - Neon_Chaos (910), JHandley (973), KWhit (976), cartman (977), oliegirl (978), Gonzo (1004), path12 (1088) 5 - Gonzo - LoneStarGirl (951), Telle (971), RendeR (1030), Antmeister (1037), Barkeep49 (1062) 2 - tanglewood - Schmidty (1009), DaddyTorgo (1045) no vote - tanglewood |
07-30-2007, 09:06 PM | #1104 |
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The result of today's discussion is, Antmeister is lynched. Unfortunately, he turns out to be a human. But could he have been the mad scientist?
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07-30-2007, 09:06 PM | #1105 |
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Gurgle....gurgle.....need air! The noose is too tight!
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07-30-2007, 09:07 PM | #1106 |
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This villager is going to haunt your asses until you find those damn wolves!
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07-30-2007, 09:08 PM | #1107 |
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Damn
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07-30-2007, 09:09 PM | #1108 |
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I had a bad feeling about that lynch from the beginning.
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07-30-2007, 09:09 PM | #1109 | |
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I presume that you just forgot to mention the fact the previously when humans died they could be mad scientists, and the noting of this possibility now is not significant? |
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07-30-2007, 09:10 PM | #1110 |
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is that a hint that he was the mad scientist? that wouldn't be a bad kill, hmm?
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07-30-2007, 09:10 PM | #1111 |
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07-30-2007, 09:10 PM | #1112 |
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I'm not disappointed with the result. Ant wasn't as vocal about his innocence as I would have expected him to have been, nor was he adamant about keeping himself alive.
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07-30-2007, 09:13 PM | #1113 |
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07-30-2007, 09:13 PM | #1114 | |
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Per the rules, the mad scientist will show as human when lynched. Ant was the first non-wolf lynched, it was just a reminder is all. |
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07-30-2007, 09:14 PM | #1115 |
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07-30-2007, 09:15 PM | #1116 |
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07-30-2007, 09:17 PM | #1117 |
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pms sent
Barkeep49 has been killed! day 5 has begun, deadline Tuesday 10pm Eastern Time |
07-30-2007, 09:17 PM | #1118 |
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OK, finished my recap of KWhit through post 976:
15 -- ordinary student here 16 -- meaningless 64 -- meaningless 65 -- notes unlisted roles may be in game 85 -- we do? (response to JE statement 2nd vote day 1 is wolf) 99 -- VOTE TELLE just to keep things close 108 -- assuming Mad Sci = conversion. asks for other takes. 113 -- further on subject notes 'working on army of lycanthropes' from rules 121 -- (response Render) need to lynch esp if conversions in game. day 1 might help down road. 123 -- notes VanH may ID wolf per rules 127 -- can see both lynch and no lynch sides. no idea which makes more sense. 129 -- questions BK's math 132 -- (re lynch ?) you can make that argument every night. better day 2? day 3? 134 -- clarify 132. Dont feel strongly abt lynch either way, but if not today day 2 just as random. 136 -- vote recap 140 -- no lynch gives wolves extra day to do their stuff 144 -- agrees day 1 on absent people best 147 -- questions LSG vote count 152 -- vote recap 156 -- possible Mad Sci is conversion re BK math. (very interested in Mad Sci/VH?) 159 -- likes to vote early d1, but often change it. 160 -- meaningless 168 -- (resp BK) game w/conversion favors lynch 169 -- no lynch benefits wolves 171 -- out for awhile. Unvote TELLE VOTE TANGLE (has vote on and absent) 174 -- vote recap 175 -- meaningless 205 -- argues lynch vs no lynch 213 -- doesn't look like lynch tonight. perfect place for wolf to hide vote. 221 -- meaningless 319 -- suggests alan may be on way to conversion? quotes Mad Sci role again, bolds lycanthrope part. 341 -- don't know whether to vote Alan. keep eye on him for sure. could be other possibilities to explain PM 344 -- in and out today. VOTE NEON. reason: absent. 345 -- agrees w/lathum about waiting day on alan. 534 -- (resp Alan) says there are valid reasons to vote for alan. 'lot of blame to go around but you're not immune' sucks about two no lynches in row. 558 -- don't know what to think about alan, inclined to think villager. makes sense to wait and see on him. 585 -- most suspic vote last night was from Render. VOTE RENDER. caps: everyone should vote early!!!! no ties!! 588 -- vote recap 600 -- correct BK vote count 601 -- might switch to neon, but only if others do to prevent tie 602 -- vote recap 608 -- vote recap 610 -- 'early enough to tie it up with this'. UNV RENDER, VOTE NEON. better lynch than alan. 614 -- vote recap 624 -- (resp path) alan brought too much heat on self to be wolf imo. could be hiding in plain sight but doubt it. 630 -- out 726 -- we should spare alan tonight. if wolf, he'll be left alive, if VH, wolves will go after. have to give benefit of doubt. 737 -- response to alan re bodyguard. 740 -- asks for vote count 742 -- another clusterfuck in making with wild vote switches. 769 -- UNVOTE NEON, VOTE CHIEF RUM 773 -- hopes vote got off the tie 781 -- asks DT for clarification of his vote count 826 -- good job! 838 -- resp to gonzo re celebration joke 889 -- resp to DT re misunderstanding 891 -- meaningless 916 -- thx Neon for CR analysis. Inclined to look at Ant, belive better choice than Render b/c CR was pushing R. 925 -- CR made mult posts about R & Tangle when had no heat. believes that helps R and Tangle. looking elsewhere today. 931 -- quotes CR view on Tangle. believes it's worth holding off on tangle for that reason 968 -- quotes Ants posts. unsure conclusion. 976 -- VOTE ANT. after thinking through, better play than gonzo or render. no strong feeling abt anyone else. Other than that interesting obsession about Van Helsing for awhile, I don't think there's much to hold against him there.
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07-30-2007, 09:18 PM | #1119 |
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I came in after having missed the whole day. I didn't think Ant was bad, as I said numerous times, although it was a gut feeling. I voted for you because of the whole cartman thing, although it wasn't really a rock-solid vote. I honestly have no idea what to think now. Give me a reason to vote for Gonzo, and I will. Yes, he's a bit.......crusty (?), but I don't know if he's bad. Maybe he is. I really suck at this game. |
07-30-2007, 09:19 PM | #1120 |
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Well.. guess my suspicions of Barkeep were unfounded then.
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07-30-2007, 09:20 PM | #1121 |
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07-30-2007, 09:20 PM | #1122 | |
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Has there ever been a WW game where not all of the bad guys knew who each other were? Although I guess technically in WW anything goes.. so even if something's unprecedented it doesn't mean it's impossible. |
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07-30-2007, 09:23 PM | #1123 |
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dammit! bye barkeep...we'll soldier on.
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07-30-2007, 09:24 PM | #1124 | |
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I've seen that before, but not here. Based on cronin's love of simple games, I doubt that's the case with this game. If I was running such a game, that would be a point I'd make clear at the beginning.
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07-30-2007, 09:25 PM | #1125 |
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Not that I have any opinion about Schmidty's guilt or innocence (he's actually one of my suspects right now), you should know that he is famous for being one of the quieter players around. And don't be fooled by his protestations of ineptitude.
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A lot of green on the board now, which isn't all that helpful. I think it is clear that on Day 1 the wolves didn't have to force anything, all the candidates were good guys and with the No Lynch thing going on too they probably just sat back and let everything happen.
Day 2 looks intersting now, with an innocent Barkeep being run up on to 'save' Neon Chaos.
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07-30-2007, 09:28 PM | #1127 | |
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I've been thinking about this and from reading st.cronin's post about the incident, the only real conclusion I can come to is that she is a wolf. I don't know how much or little we should be using that info, but it really seems to me to be the most logical explanation. DC thinks she's a wolf becasue she is a wolf, and then when she sees a mass PM from st.cronin, she replies to all of them thinking st.c was sending a note out to all the wolves. I hate the situation, but I don't think we can ignore it at this point in time. |
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07-30-2007, 09:29 PM | #1128 |
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Tangle, I know that you say you're good, but that chart becomes more helpful if you leave your name blank since we don't know one way or the other.
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07-30-2007, 09:31 PM | #1129 |
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interesting supposition kwhit. It's as good as anything else we have going right now...
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07-30-2007, 09:31 PM | #1130 | |
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I agree. Logically, Dodgerchick wouldn't have been so upset if she wasn't a wolf. |
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For reference again, here was the day two voting:
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07-30-2007, 09:32 PM | #1132 | |
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Here's the thing with that, and it may just be ignorance on my part -- but I don't think there is a 'reply to all' option on PM's. When I have had to send a PM to multiple people, I've had to enter them all individually (which is kind of a pain in the ass at times). So if she was a wolf, she had to respond individually right? Or am I just stupid about how to reply to all?
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07-30-2007, 09:35 PM | #1134 | |
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You may be right, but that was the whole story of the incident, right? That she sent the PM to people she shouldn't have. The fact that she may have had to type them all in doesn't really matter, I don't think. Either way, it seems to me that she is likely a wolf. |
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07-30-2007, 09:37 PM | #1135 | |
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Just tried it out and yes, you would have to enter each name in manually. I don't really think that DC/Olliegirl is a wolf. IMHO, after making such a mistake DC wouldn't have left the game if she was a wolf and still had an important role to play. I hate that we are meta-gaming on this, but well... |
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07-30-2007, 09:38 PM | #1136 | |
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But if you were a wolf, you've likely already talked to your fellow wolves at least once, right? So you'd know that the names you typed weren't the people you talked to before, I would think.
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07-30-2007, 09:38 PM | #1137 |
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Isn't a very clear rule that the wolves can converse but the villagers aren't allowed to at all? Tell me you guys haven't all been talking, though, that might explain why I'm still very much in the dark here
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07-30-2007, 09:40 PM | #1138 | |
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But then again, why would she be so upset if she was a villager? Surely it'd be more of a deal if you were a wolf and PM'ed random people saying you're a wolf. |
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07-30-2007, 09:41 PM | #1139 |
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07-30-2007, 09:42 PM | #1140 |
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VOTE OLIEGIRL
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DC wasn't a wolf, and neither am I...scan me tonight if it's not too late - I promise you I'm not a wolf.
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07-30-2007, 09:43 PM | #1142 | |
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Hmm... That's a good point. Makes her look even more wolfish. Maybe she just cut and pasted the names in and replied. |
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07-30-2007, 09:44 PM | #1143 |
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My feelings too. I don't like it, but can't help it. It would be silly to think she's a wolf and then make yourself vote elsewhere. |
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07-30-2007, 09:45 PM | #1145 | |
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Cronin said all pm's had been sent, so if you were going to be scanned you already were.
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07-30-2007, 09:46 PM | #1146 |
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We have a TON of time until lynch, but for the reasons I laid out above:
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07-30-2007, 09:48 PM | #1147 |
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Gonna wait and see if one of our seers found anything before I do anything. Out for now.
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07-30-2007, 09:52 PM | #1148 |
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Really can't think of a reason to wait, I can still switch if something comes out.
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07-30-2007, 09:55 PM | #1149 |
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The Oliegirl vote seems really bandwagony so far....kind of like the Ant vote.
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