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MikeVic · 02-06-2007, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Bee

That's the vibe I got as well. I think he was probably planning on coming back after eating Claire's brain (or whatever he does) and then making HRG pay for locking him up. Although I do agree it would have been a good idea for that to be communicated a little better.

Yeah, all it takes is one more line by Sylar. Something like "I'll be back for you after I'm done with your family. You'll get to see them one last time before you die, don't worry." And then that implies that he'd bring thier dead bodies too.

gottimd · 02-06-2007, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeVic

What does Hiro's father's license plate mean? Am I missing something obvious?

I believe it was a reference to that show William Shatner was on, the one where they fly around in space and do stuff. I can't remember the name of the show though.

Alan T · 02-06-2007, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by gottimd

I believe it was a reference to that show William Shatner was on, the one where they fly around in space and do stuff. I can't remember the name of the show though.

Airplane II the sequal??

gottimd · 02-06-2007, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Alan T

Airplane II the sequal??

Actually, he was on a moonbase in that one and not flying around....so no.

Bee · 02-06-2007, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Alan T

Airplane II the sequal??

I assume he's referring to TJ Hooker.

Mr. Wednesday · 02-06-2007, 10:17 AM

Anybody else find it interesting that they pointedly did not say Mr. Bennett's first name? Did anybody catch it on the driver's license? I'm wondering if they're just being cute, or if it actually has some importance.

gottimd · 02-06-2007, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Wednesday

Anybody else find it interesting that they pointedly did not say Mr. Bennett's first name? Did anybody catch it on the driver's license? I'm wondering if they're just being cute, or if it actually has some importance.

Yes, I forgot to mention that as well. That reminds me of that M Night movie, Unbreakable, where every evil person is known as Mr. something. That was a movie based off of comic book references sort of, so I wonder if that is what the writers are alluding to?

MikeVic · 02-06-2007, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by gottimd

Yes, I forgot to mention that as well. That reminds me of that M Night movie, Unbreakable, where every evil person is known as Mr. something. That was a movie based off of comic book references sort of, so I wonder if that is what the writers are alluding to?

Didn't his wife give the first name right after...? I forget what it was though.

gottimd · 02-06-2007, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeVic

Didn't his wife give the first name right after...? I forget what it was though.

No, she was stopped short and then continued on about Claire, never saying his name.

lordscarlet · 02-06-2007, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Easy Mac

Is it sad I would hit the mom and the daughter?

The actresses are 35 and 17. Wait another year and it's fine.

Bee · 02-06-2007, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Wednesday

Anybody else find it interesting that they pointedly did not say Mr. Bennett's first name? Did anybody catch it on the driver's license? I'm wondering if they're just being cute, or if it actually has some importance.

I don't think the license showed his first name, it just showed his last name.

ISiddiqui · 02-06-2007, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Bee

I don't think the license showed his first name, it just showed his last name.

Yeah, it just said Bennett, which I found wierd at the time.

MikeVic · 02-06-2007, 11:28 AM

So his first name has to have some significance... I wonder what it could be?

Celeval · 02-06-2007, 11:33 AM

Mr. Linderman Bennett? Naaah.

MikeVic · 02-06-2007, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Celeval

Mr. Linderman Bennett? Naaah.

Damnit. It just might be. Linderman is too involved with the Heroes...

MikeVic · 02-06-2007, 11:48 AM

Hmm I don't know. Wouldn't he just buy every single painting made by that Isaac guy, in case it has something with Claire on it? He only bought a few I think.

gottimd · 02-06-2007, 11:51 AM

One of the episodes showed HRG talking to someone on the phone and HRG was responding to him as a subordinate. I don't think HRG = Linderman. He might be working for Linderman.

I think Mr. Bennetts first name is either Ben or Tony.

spleen1015 · 02-06-2007, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeVic

What does Hiro's father's license plate mean? Am I missing something obvious?

It is the serial number from the USS Enterprise, the ship from Star Trek. That dude played Sulu on Star Trek.

gottimd · 02-06-2007, 12:22 PM

Honolulu_Blue · 02-06-2007, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by gottimd

One of the episodes showed HRG talking to someone on the phone and HRG was responding to him as a subordinate. I don't think HRG = Linderman. He might be working for Linderman.

I think that's right. I mean, he showed up at Linderman's hotel in Vegas to snag Nathan. He must have been tipped off about it. I wonder if HRG knows Nathan is Claire's father? Is that why he snagged him and not Niki? Hrmm...

Malificent · 02-06-2007, 12:43 PM

Nathan had to pay Claire's mother to get her on the run (or to fake the fire). Nathan would've been what, 20, then (16 years ago)? So he's not likely to have the resources. But his dad would, and we know Nathan's dad was tight with Linderman. Since HRG adopted Claire, he has to be working with whoever was involved with the fire and the coverup. So it seems logical that he's working with Linderman.

gottimd · 02-06-2007, 12:52 PM

I like the idea that Nathan and Claires real mother were too young and maybe she accidentally tapped into her power and blew up their own home, and Father Petrelli had Lindermans guys cover it up.

However, if that were the case, wouldn't he be worried to prosecute Linderman, like he was about to do in an earlier episode?

Travis · 02-06-2007, 01:00 PM

My assumption at this point is that Linderman will be the big baddie with Sylar and Jessica filling the punching bag roles from the bad guy side. Mr. Bennet is likely taking his orders from Linderman as well, but it wouldn't surprise me if the Haitian is working with Claude in some way.

I am curious which side of the fight Nathan ends up on. At least in the case of Nathan and Jessica/Niki, they're given stories where being on either side of the fight (or eventually both) can fit with their characters. Guessing that's why the drawn out side story for Niki and D.L., so that when she starts off bad, later unifying herself (or however they approach that) and becoming good, you already have the story rather than a bunch of explanation later on when the action is underway. Plus, we have some idea as to what she is capable of, rather than just having a character show up, smash, walk away with a quip while leaving one of the main heroes crippled/dead/etc (and makes her a potentially sympathetic character no matter how evil they make her while she's Jessica).

In the end, the Haitian is the one that intrigues me right now. Could fit on any side, and will likely play a bunch of them before we find out his true motivation.

mckerney · 02-06-2007, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by gottimd

I think it was just a drivers license but there has to be a screenshot somewhere.

Travis · 02-06-2007, 01:10 PM

So who wants to get a HD capture of that and upload it so the analysis of the signature can begin (assuming that's what is above his picture)?

MikeVic · 02-06-2007, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Travis

So who wants to get a HD capture of that and upload it so the analysis of the signature can begin (assuming that's what is above his picture)?

Looks like it just says "Bennet" too.

gottimd · 02-06-2007, 01:14 PM

Department of Public Safety?

Travis · 02-06-2007, 01:15 PM

Not the bit below Odessa, the three words above his picture. Never seen a Texas license up close before, so not sure what usually goes there.

ISiddiqui · 02-06-2007, 01:15 PM

Signature seems to say "Bennet"

AFAIK, no real life license only has a last name on it, though.

ISiddiqui · 02-06-2007, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Travis

Not the bit below Odessa, the three words above his picture. Never seen a Texas license up close before, so not sure what usually goes there.

That's most likely the signature of the Commission of the Motor Vehicles Division (or whatever they have in Texas).

Honolulu_Blue · 02-06-2007, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Travis

In the end, the Haitian is the one that intrigues me right now. Could fit on any side, and will likely play a bunch of them before we find out his true motivation.

Yeah, where he will fit in is really interesting. I could see him wiping HRG's mind at the end of HRG's character arc.

gottimd · 02-06-2007, 01:34 PM

I wonder what is holding the Haitian guy from wiping HRG's mind now instead of later, if he does do that?

Honolulu_Blue · 02-06-2007, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by gottimd

I wonder what is holding the Haitian guy from wiping HRG's mind now instead of later, if he does do that?

He probably has a plan. I am sure playing HRG's lackey gets him inside places he normally wouldn't go and makes him privy to information that would be impossible to get otherwise.

Remember what Vito Coreleone said... "Keep your friends close, but your enemies closer."

DanGarion · 02-06-2007, 03:24 PM

Well maybe Linderman and HRG work with each other or did work with each other, but one is going to be good and the other bad, sort of like Magneto and Prof X.?

Izulde · 02-06-2007, 04:11 PM

ahhh Public Safety. Thanks for the license screencap. It flashed by too quick for me to see the whole thing originally, which is why I thought it maybe said Homeland Security or some such thing as that.

Not having a DVR, I couldn't rewind.

Easy Mac · 02-06-2007, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by gottimd

I wonder what is holding the Haitian guy from wiping HRG's mind now instead of later, if he does do that?

My thinking is that HRG is also some kind of "super" and the Haitian knows it. Perhaps HRG could sense it or something, just my thoughts.

Mr. Wednesday · 02-06-2007, 05:16 PM

FWIW, there is no Juniper Lane in Odessa.

Izulde · 02-06-2007, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Wednesday

FWIW, there is no Juniper Lane in Odessa.

Could that be a 555 thing?

Mr. Wednesday · 02-06-2007, 06:26 PM

Probably. They could have made a nonsense address on an existing street, but I suppose that's not necessarily safe.

Yossarian · 02-07-2007, 06:21 AM

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Signature seems to say "Bennet"

AFAIK, no real life license only has a last name on it, though.

Mibbe he's known by only one name. Like Cher.

Raiders Army · 02-07-2007, 07:54 AM

Or Prince.

If HRG guy had super powers, why wouldn't Sylar have stolen them from him when he had the chance?

wade moore · 02-07-2007, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Raiders Army

Or Prince.

If HRG guy had super powers, why wouldn't Sylar have stolen them from him when he had the chance?

I don't think Sylar can detect super powers. I think he got some of the info from Mohinder's father. I do not believe he has some sense of it, that's why he killed Claire's friend by accident. He uses more mundane things to find people with powers...

...The list...

Raiders Army · 02-07-2007, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by wade moore

I don't think Sylar can detect super powers. I think he got some of the info from Mohinder's father. I do not believe he has some sense of it, that's why he killed Claire's friend by accident. He uses more mundane things to find people with powers...

...The list...

Good point. Forgot about that. I wonder if he stole Peter's powers if he could "detect" super powers.

gottimd · 02-07-2007, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by wade moore

I don't think Sylar can detect super powers. I think he got some of the info from Mohinder's father. I do not believe he has some sense of it, that's why he killed Claire's friend by accident. He uses more mundane things to find people with powers...

...The list...

From the previews, they showed Mohinder and Sylar talking. My guess is that he is putting aside the Claire search for now, and wants to gain more powers so he can easily get to her. He finds out about Mohinder and tries to use Mohinder to reveal more "super" people that he can go after. One would think that he would want invisibility pretty badly.

TRO · 02-07-2007, 09:09 AM

If Haitian mindwiped Sylar, would Sylar forget the powers he absorbed? Ditto in regards to Peter.

My guess is that Peter would but Sylar would not.

gottimd · 02-07-2007, 09:17 AM

After Peter saved Claire, what did the Haitian guy do to Sylar? I thought Eden and the Haitian guy did something to Sylar at that point.

Izulde · 02-07-2007, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by gottimd

After Peter saved Claire, what did the Haitian guy do to Sylar? I thought Eden and the Haitian guy did something to Sylar at that point.

Knocked his ass out, like what Haitian guy did to Parkerman in an earlier episode.

Travis · 02-07-2007, 12:41 PM

Not sure if anybody noticed or not, but did Sylar have the same marks (I believe it should be on the neck) as Parkman and the radiation guy? Can't remember for sure if it was stated on the show, but on wiki they imply or state that those marks are from having trackers inserted by HRG and crew.

Just curious as to whether or not one was implanted in Sylar that he'll have to remove, or if they didn't bother as they were planning on killing him off while in captivation at some point.

lordscarlet · 02-07-2007, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Travis

Not sure if anybody noticed or not, but did Sylar have the same marks (I believe it should be on the neck) as Parkman and the radiation guy? Can't remember for sure if it was stated on the show, but on wiki they imply or state that those marks are from having trackers inserted by HRG and crew.

Just curious as to whether or not one was implanted in Sylar that he'll have to remove, or if they didn't bother as they were planning on killing him off while in captivation at some point.

Um. This sounds like spoilers? I don't recall it ever being in the show.

Travis · 02-07-2007, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by lordscarlet

Um. This sounds like spoilers? I don't recall it ever being in the show.

My bad. It was bugging me, so I looked it back up on wiki, and it's reference from two of the graphic novels that are being put out after/between episodes. I've yet to read these (plan on catching up this weekend), so I guess the level of spoiler depends on what's being followed I guess. I'm assuming anything contained in the graphic novels is fair game for discussion?

02-06-2007, 10:17 AM	#1106
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02-06-2007, 11:51 AM	#1117
gottimd Dearly Missed (9/25/77-12/23/08) Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: DC Suburbs	One of the episodes showed HRG talking to someone on the phone and HRG was responding to him as a subordinate. I don't think HRG = Linderman. He might be working for Linderman. I think Mr. Bennetts first name is either Ben or Tony. __________________ NAFL New Orleans Saints GM/Co-Commish MP Career Record: 114-85 NAFL Super Bowl XI Champs In memory of Gavin Anthony: 7/22/08-7/26/08

02-06-2007, 12:22 PM	#1119
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02-06-2007, 12:52 PM	#1122
gottimd Dearly Missed (9/25/77-12/23/08) Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: DC Suburbs	I like the idea that Nathan and Claires real mother were too young and maybe she accidentally tapped into her power and blew up their own home, and Father Petrelli had Lindermans guys cover it up. However, if that were the case, wouldn't he be worried to prosecute Linderman, like he was about to do in an earlier episode? __________________ NAFL New Orleans Saints GM/Co-Commish MP Career Record: 114-85 NAFL Super Bowl XI Champs In memory of Gavin Anthony: 7/22/08-7/26/08

02-06-2007, 01:14 PM	#1127
gottimd Dearly Missed (9/25/77-12/23/08) Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: DC Suburbs	Department of Public Safety? __________________ NAFL New Orleans Saints GM/Co-Commish MP Career Record: 114-85 NAFL Super Bowl XI Champs In memory of Gavin Anthony: 7/22/08-7/26/08

02-06-2007, 11:28 AM	#1113
MikeVic Head Coach Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hometown of Canada	So his first name has to have some significance... I wonder what it could be?

02-06-2007, 11:33 AM	#1114
Celeval Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Cary, NC, USA	Mr. Linderman Bennett? Naaah.

02-06-2007, 11:48 AM	#1116
MikeVic Head Coach Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hometown of Canada	Hmm I don't know. Wouldn't he just buy every single painting made by that Isaac guy, in case it has something with Claire on it? He only bought a few I think.

02-06-2007, 12:43 PM	#1121
Malificent High School JV Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Durham, NC, USA	Nathan had to pay Claire's mother to get her on the run (or to fake the fire). Nathan would've been what, 20, then (16 years ago)? So he's not likely to have the resources. But his dad would, and we know Nathan's dad was tight with Linderman. Since HRG adopted Claire, he has to be working with whoever was involved with the fire and the coverup. So it seems logical that he's working with Linderman.

02-06-2007, 01:00 PM	#1123
Travis Pro Rookie Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Canada eh	My assumption at this point is that Linderman will be the big baddie with Sylar and Jessica filling the punching bag roles from the bad guy side. Mr. Bennet is likely taking his orders from Linderman as well, but it wouldn't surprise me if the Haitian is working with Claude in some way. I am curious which side of the fight Nathan ends up on. At least in the case of Nathan and Jessica/Niki, they're given stories where being on either side of the fight (or eventually both) can fit with their characters. Guessing that's why the drawn out side story for Niki and D.L., so that when she starts off bad, later unifying herself (or however they approach that) and becoming good, you already have the story rather than a bunch of explanation later on when the action is underway. Plus, we have some idea as to what she is capable of, rather than just having a character show up, smash, walk away with a quip while leaving one of the main heroes crippled/dead/etc (and makes her a potentially sympathetic character no matter how evil they make her while she's Jessica). In the end, the Haitian is the one that intrigues me right now. Could fit on any side, and will likely play a bunch of them before we find out his true motivation.

02-06-2007, 01:10 PM	#1125
Travis Pro Rookie Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Canada eh	So who wants to get a HD capture of that and upload it so the analysis of the signature can begin (assuming that's what is above his picture)?

02-06-2007, 01:15 PM	#1128
Travis Pro Rookie Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Canada eh	Not the bit below Odessa, the three words above his picture. Never seen a Texas license up close before, so not sure what usually goes there.

02-06-2007, 01:15 PM	#1129
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	Signature seems to say "Bennet" AFAIK, no real life license only has a last name on it, though. __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

02-06-2007, 01:34 PM	#1132
gottimd Dearly Missed (9/25/77-12/23/08) Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: DC Suburbs	I wonder what is holding the Haitian guy from wiping HRG's mind now instead of later, if he does do that? __________________ NAFL New Orleans Saints GM/Co-Commish MP Career Record: 114-85 NAFL Super Bowl XI Champs In memory of Gavin Anthony: 7/22/08-7/26/08

02-06-2007, 03:24 PM	#1134
DanGarion Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: The Great Northwest	Well maybe Linderman and HRG work with each other or did work with each other, but one is going to be good and the other bad, sort of like Magneto and Prof X.? __________________ Los Angeles Dodgers Check out the FOFC Groups on Facebook! and Reddit! DON'T REPORT ME BRO!

02-06-2007, 04:11 PM	#1135
Izulde Head Coach Join Date: Sep 2004	ahhh Public Safety. Thanks for the license screencap. It flashed by too quick for me to see the whole thing originally, which is why I thought it maybe said Homeland Security or some such thing as that. Not having a DVR, I couldn't rewind. __________________ 2006 Golden Scribe Nominee 2006 Golden Scribe Winner Best Non-Sport Dynasty: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty) Rookie Writer of the Year Dynasty of the Year: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty)

02-06-2007, 05:16 PM	#1137
Mr. Wednesday Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: South Bend, IN	FWIW, there is no Juniper Lane in Odessa. __________________ Hattrick - Brays Bayou FC (70854) / USA III.4 Hockey Arena - Houston Aeros / USA II.1 Thanks to my FOFC Hattrick supporters - Blackout, Brillig, kingfc22, RPI-fan, Rich1033, antbacker, One_to7, ur_land, KevinNU7, and TonyR (PM me if you support me and I've missed you)

02-06-2007, 06:26 PM	#1139
Mr. Wednesday Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: South Bend, IN	Probably. They could have made a nonsense address on an existing street, but I suppose that's not necessarily safe. __________________ Hattrick - Brays Bayou FC (70854) / USA III.4 Hockey Arena - Houston Aeros / USA II.1 Thanks to my FOFC Hattrick supporters - Blackout, Brillig, kingfc22, RPI-fan, Rich1033, antbacker, One_to7, ur_land, KevinNU7, and TonyR (PM me if you support me and I've missed you)

02-07-2007, 07:54 AM	#1141
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	Or Prince. If HRG guy had super powers, why wouldn't Sylar have stolen them from him when he had the chance?

02-07-2007, 09:09 AM	#1145
TRO College Prospect Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Louisburg, KS	If Haitian mindwiped Sylar, would Sylar forget the powers he absorbed? Ditto in regards to Peter. My guess is that Peter would but Sylar would not. __________________ TRA, the Royal Ape

02-07-2007, 09:17 AM	#1146
gottimd Dearly Missed (9/25/77-12/23/08) Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: DC Suburbs	After Peter saved Claire, what did the Haitian guy do to Sylar? I thought Eden and the Haitian guy did something to Sylar at that point. __________________ NAFL New Orleans Saints GM/Co-Commish MP Career Record: 114-85 NAFL Super Bowl XI Champs In memory of Gavin Anthony: 7/22/08-7/26/08

02-07-2007, 12:41 PM	#1148
Travis Pro Rookie Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Canada eh	Not sure if anybody noticed or not, but did Sylar have the same marks (I believe it should be on the neck) as Parkman and the radiation guy? Can't remember for sure if it was stated on the show, but on wiki they imply or state that those marks are from having trackers inserted by HRG and crew. Just curious as to whether or not one was implanted in Sylar that he'll have to remove, or if they didn't bother as they were planning on killing him off while in captivation at some point.

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