Werewolf XLIII - The Big City (Game over) - Page 23

Swaggs · 02-28-2007, 08:12 PM

Damn... we got the mob boss.

Marathoner · 02-28-2007, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

I'm great.

Are you a thug?

lol, now why would you think that?

DaddyTorgo · 02-28-2007, 08:15 PM

alright blade...you were right apparently. Fortunately you managed to escape and things ended up "right"

Swaggs · 02-28-2007, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Marathoner

lol, now why would you think that?

I'm hoping for the best.

Blade6119 · 02-28-2007, 08:16 PM

Ya, now i want all of you to take a second to re-asses that cronin was the mob boss. Now look at the 5 vote swap in the final 20 posts to save him, and kill me(led by hoops).

Then tell me im evil, and explain why you vote hoops to be judge...

Blade6119 · 02-28-2007, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

alright blade...you were right apparently. Fortunately you managed to escape and things ended up "right"

Yes, and you were a major playing in almost saving the mob boss. All the trust you had garnered is totally gone...hope it was worth it

Marathoner · 02-28-2007, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

I'm hoping for the best.

nice try

Blade6119 · 02-28-2007, 08:18 PM

And ive been after cronin for 2 days now, since early day one. So if you want to try to somehow spin im the heir and i saw his ring, i wanted him dead yesterday.

Come on hoops, lets hear your spin...im waiting

Swaggs · 02-28-2007, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Marathoner

nice try

Well, the alternative is that you are the mafia's hired muscle.

So, are you a thug or muscle?

SnDvls · 02-28-2007, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

I'm intrigued by the lack of action/comments by a few of the bystanders here. Unless I'm imagining things, Anxiety, Marathoner, SnDvls, and Jonathan Ezarik basically took in the last twenty minutes without comment in the middle of a pretty intense situation.

sorry I had real life issues...and I stated that I'm back now

hoopsguy · 02-28-2007, 08:19 PM

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10. St.Cronin - Lynched Day 2 - Mafia Crime Boss

Well, it appears that Blade6119 may have been right about the list of people voting for him as a who's who of Mafia, but I'm not one of them.

Great result, and I'll answer any questions people may have about my actions nearly derailing this outcome.

DaddyTorgo · 02-28-2007, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

Yes, and you were a major playing in almost saving the mob boss. All the trust you had garnered is totally gone...hope it was worth it

i'm a major player now? I do believe I was like...the third vote or 4th vote in there dude. Hardly "major." the judge was the one who drove it. was it worth it...no of course not. Had I known cronin was the mob boss I would have voted for him. But honestly I didn't think the case against him was THAT strong, he could have been any of a number of people on that rich list.

Blade6119 · 02-28-2007, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Well, it appears that Blade6119 may have been right about the list of people voting for him as a who's who of Mafia, but I'm not one of them.

Great result, and I'll answer any questions people may have about my actions nearly derailing this outcome.

Why did you concoct a baseless story at the final second to save the mafia boss and try to kill the only semi-cleared(hopefully now fully cleared) player? Why should we not kill you?

Abe Sargent · 02-28-2007, 08:21 PM

My gf is asking me into the shower. Be back later. VERY later.

Marathoner · 02-28-2007, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

Well, the alternative is that you are the mafia's hired muscle.

So, are you a thug or muscle?

Swaggs · 02-28-2007, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Anxiety

My gf is asking me into the shower. Be back later. VERY later.

He'll be back in 90 seconds.

Blade6119 · 02-28-2007, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

i'm a major player now? I do believe I was like...the third vote or 4th vote in there dude. Hardly "major." the judge was the one who drove it. was it worth it...no of course not. Had I known cronin was the mob boss I would have voted for him. But honestly I didn't think the case against him was THAT strong, he could have been any of a number of people on that rich list.

So to vote me you must have thought hoops' story was more believable, despit his coming right before the deadline day 2 and mine was over 2 days and included direct contact with you. Explain to me how the case against me was stronger then against cronin...please

Swaggs · 02-28-2007, 08:26 PM

Guys, I have a reveal, before we go too far in the wrong direction. I think I'd rather get this information out too early, rather than too late.

I am the janitor and, once every other day, I can go through citizens' trash and find clues about them.

First day, I checked out hoopsguys' trash and found a few things to indicate that he is a little "out there," but nothing to indicate that he is in the mafia.

However, just got the day 3 info... and, I checked on Marathoner. His trash had bodybuilding magazines and catalogs for bulletproof vests.

Do with it what you will.

Lathum · 02-28-2007, 08:26 PM

nice job Blade. Cronin was correct, once a game you have a revelation

hoopsguy · 02-28-2007, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

Why did you concoct a baseless story at the final second to save the mafia boss and try to kill the only semi-cleared(hopefully now fully cleared) player? Why should we not kill you?

Not kill - because it won't help clean up the city. Because two people have information on me, and unless you believe both of them are mafia then it would have made sense for them to come after me today if they had any reason to believe I'm evil.

Baseless story - because it made more sense to me than the version you gave, basically. Because I still think you are playing fast and loose with the truth, even if you were targeting the mob boss today. I now think it is way less likely you are sporting a tommy gun, if that makes you feel better.

SnDvls · 02-28-2007, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

Guys, I have a reveal, before we go too far in the wrong direction. I think I'd rather get this information out too early, rather than too late.

I am the janitor and, once every other day, I can go through citizens' trash and find clues about them.

First day, I checked out hoopsguys' trash and found a few things to indicate that he is a little "out there," but nothing to indicate that he is in the mafia.

However, just got the day 3 info... and, I checked on Marathoner. His trash had bodybuilding magazines and catalogs for bulletproof vests.

Do with it what you will.

I guess this explains this question then

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

Well, the alternative is that you are the mafia's hired muscle.

So, are you a thug or muscle?

Swaggs · 02-28-2007, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Not kill - because it won't help clean up the city. Because two people have information on me, and unless you believe both of them are mafia then it would have made sense for them to come after me today if they had any reason to believe I'm evil.

Baseless story - because it made more sense to me than the version you gave, basically. Because I still think you are playing fast and loose with the truth, even if you were targeting the mob boss today. I now think it is way less likely you are sporting a tommy gun, if that makes you feel better.

As I have alluded to earlier today, I don't think you are mafia and I won't be voting for you. I know you have your eccentricities, but I believe you are on our side.

I think Marathoner is a good bet to be hired muscle, though.

DaddyTorgo · 02-28-2007, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

So to vote me you must have thought hoops' story was more believable, despit his coming right before the deadline day 2 and mine was over 2 days and included direct contact with you. Explain to me how the case against me was stronger then against cronin...please

nah. I just have a habit of swaying at the last minute as a villager when someone comes up with some fantastical story.

figured I dunno...maybe he just had like a "lightbulb" moment and made a connection whereas yours seemed more...logical. And sometimes the logical in these games is almost TOO logical.

honestly...i dunno. I guess I just have a weakness for last-minute vote-changing dramatic stories

Blade6119 · 02-28-2007, 08:32 PM

I have a group of 3 people i believe to be mafia...hoops isnt in it if it helps

hoopsguy · 02-28-2007, 08:33 PM

Marathoner held off on voting for Blade6119 down the stretch, despite being in the room while st.cronin had the lead. Doesn't necessarily mean anything, but I would think the Mob would have been incented to try and save the boss with 1-2 votes - right? Don't want to all get grouped together, but that was a key role on the line.

Dr. Sak · 02-28-2007, 08:34 PM

I'll admit it, I messed up. I believed hoops' story. I should have kept with my gut feel and thankfully my mess up didn't cost getting the mob boss.

hoopsguy · 02-28-2007, 08:34 PM

Going to watch "JFK" and "Conspiracy Theory", be back later this evening.

Lathum · 02-28-2007, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

I have a group of 3 people i believe to be mafia...hoops isnt in it if it helps

well since you think you are gonna be offed you may want to share.

ImTheCrew · 02-28-2007, 08:38 PM

just got back and caught up, nice voting guys! we got the boss!

Blade6119 · 02-28-2007, 08:39 PM

Sndvls, Swaggs, and DaddyTorgo...thats my mafia list right now

Swaggs · 02-28-2007, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

Sndvls, Swaggs, and DaddyTorgo...thats my mafia list right now

I'm the janitor.

SnDvls · 02-28-2007, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

Sndvls, Swaggs, and DaddyTorgo...thats my mafia list right now

you know you keep randomly tossing my name out there
what's up with that?

SnDvls · 02-28-2007, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

Sndvls, Swaggs, and DaddyTorgo...thats my mafia list right now

you know you keep randomly tossing my name out there
what's up with that?

Blade6119 · 02-28-2007, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

I'm the janitor.

And cronin was an influential person from out of town...

Swaggs · 02-28-2007, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

And cronin was an influential person from out of town...

Blade6119 · 02-28-2007, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by SnDvls

you know you keep randomly tossing my name out there
what's up with that?

In every game, at least one wolf goes against the others so they dont all die im one lump sum. You have been UTR, you have played carefully in regards to cronin, and you voted at a time that it seemed clear he was a goner. I dont believe all the wolves swapped, i just dont. And you(as i stated early today before this whole mess) are my #2 suspect.

DaddyTorgo · 02-28-2007, 08:44 PM

me? wow, that's a pretty big reversal there blade.

SnDvls · 02-28-2007, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

In every game, at least one wolf goes against the others so they dont all die im one lump sum. You have been UTR, you have played carefully in regards to cronin, and you voted at a time that it seemed clear he was a goner. I dont believe all the wolves swapped, i just dont. And you(as i stated early today before this whole mess) are my #2 suspect.

check your facts.. I tied it up when JE was in the lead back to cronin.

kingfc22 · 02-28-2007, 08:46 PM

Nice job Blade. Way to knock out the king.

That was one hell of a run of votes on Blade. I'm guessing we have at least 1 if not 2 more mafia members on that list.

Swaggs · 02-28-2007, 08:47 PM

I'm taking off for a bit.

I would have liked to hear Marathoner's explanation for needing a bulletproof vest and the muscle magazines, but I think he is hoping it will pass over or get lost in Blade's soapbox moment of getting something right, which I'm sure we'll hear about for the rest of the game.

Vote Marathoner

I am also putting it out there that hoopsguy is an eccentric, but not a badguy. I will not switch my vote for judge from him, as I feel like he is on our side.

Lathum · 02-28-2007, 08:48 PM

I see no reason not to believe swaggs. What would he have to gain from making this play and why Marathoner?

If he was trying to cause trouble there are alot of other names he could have picked like hoops.

DaddyTorgo · 02-28-2007, 08:48 PM

VOTE MARATHONER

seems solid (for now) Swaggs.

Blade6119 · 02-28-2007, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by SnDvls

check your facts.. I tied it up when JE was in the lead back to cronin.

Fair enough...i may have mispoke there...but i suspected you before the lynch so it matters little. Im not trying to lynch you yet, just saying your my top suspect for when i die. They will go after DT/Swaggs/hoops, and i dont want you to coast

Blade6119 · 02-28-2007, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

I see no reason not to believe swaggs. What would he have to gain from making this play and why Marathoner?

If he was trying to cause trouble there are alot of other names he could have picked like hoops.

What could he have to gain? Other then trying to avoid the backlash of being one of they key votes to save the mafia boss? They, if evil, are in a terrible situation. I would expect nothing less then role reveals and what not...just saying, he has everything in the world to gain

Jonathan Ezarik · 02-28-2007, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

I think Marathoner is a good bet to be hired muscle, though.

If what you say is true, then it does sound like he's hired muscle. However, in my book, that doesn't make him evil.

Abe Sargent · 02-28-2007, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

He'll be back in 90 seconds.

My gf just read this comment, looked at me, winked, and said, "if only they knew."

Remember, I don;t lie about rl stuff in WW.

kingfc22 · 02-28-2007, 08:52 PM

Interesting that two guys that jumped on the Blade bandwagon late, have started the day 3 train on Marathoner.

Marathoner - can you answer Swaggs question to why you have a muscle and bulletproof vest magazines?

Abe Sargent · 02-28-2007, 08:52 PM

She thinks its cute the way I write about her here.

Swaggs · 02-28-2007, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

In every game, at least one wolf goes against the others so they dont all die im one lump sum. You have been UTR, you have played carefully in regards to cronin, and you voted at a time that it seemed clear he was a goner. I dont believe all the wolves swapped, i just dont. And you(as i stated early today before this whole mess) are my #2 suspect.

Funny you mention this.

Wouldn't the heir have a lot to gain from the mob boss dying?

Is it that far-fetched to consider that you recognized him as the mob boss and wanted him to die, so that you could take over?

Marathoner · 02-28-2007, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

Guys, I have a reveal, before we go too far in the wrong direction. I think I'd rather get this information out too early, rather than too late.

I am the janitor and, once every other day, I can go through citizens' trash and find clues about them.

First day, I checked out hoopsguys' trash and found a few things to indicate that he is a little "out there," but nothing to indicate that he is in the mafia.

However, just got the day 3 info... and, I checked on Marathoner. His trash had bodybuilding magazines and catalogs for bulletproof vests.

Do with it what you will.

I am an independent with an interest in bodybuilding, i.e. strength. Take a look at the job descriptions, it is right there. I have personal goals, but nothing associated with either particular side. I played no part in tonight's lynching, I have stated the reason for my vote many posts ago. I could have moved on blade, but didn't. The only evidence you have is a muscle magazine, which is of interest to independents too. With all the guns out there, I'd suggest you all consider getting one, especially if you need to take a bullet as part of your job.

02-28-2007, 08:12 PM	#1101
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Damn... we got the mob boss. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

02-28-2007, 08:16 PM	#1105
Blade6119 Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona	Ya, now i want all of you to take a second to re-asses that cronin was the mob boss. Now look at the 5 vote swap in the final 20 posts to save him, and kill me(led by hoops). Then tell me im evil, and explain why you vote hoops to be judge... __________________ *Underachievement* The tallest blade of grass is the first to be cut by the lawnmower. *Despair* It's always darkest just before it goes pitch black. *Demotivation* Sometimes the best solution to morale problems is just to fire all of the unhappy people. http://www.despair.com/viewall.html

02-28-2007, 08:18 PM	#1108
Blade6119 Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona	And ive been after cronin for 2 days now, since early day one. So if you want to try to somehow spin im the heir and i saw his ring, i wanted him dead yesterday. Come on hoops, lets hear your spin...im waiting __________________ *Underachievement* The tallest blade of grass is the first to be cut by the lawnmower. *Despair* It's always darkest just before it goes pitch black. *Demotivation* Sometimes the best solution to morale problems is just to fire all of the unhappy people. http://www.despair.com/viewall.html

02-28-2007, 08:21 PM	#1114
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	My gf is asking me into the shower. Be back later. VERY later. __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

02-28-2007, 08:26 PM	#1118
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Guys, I have a reveal, before we go too far in the wrong direction. I think I'd rather get this information out too early, rather than too late. I am the janitor and, once every other day, I can go through citizens' trash and find clues about them. First day, I checked out hoopsguys' trash and found a few things to indicate that he is a little "out there," but nothing to indicate that he is in the mafia. However, just got the day 3 info... and, I checked on Marathoner. His trash had bodybuilding magazines and catalogs for bulletproof vests. Do with it what you will. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

02-28-2007, 08:15 PM	#1103
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	alright blade...you were right apparently. Fortunately you managed to escape and things ended up "right"

02-28-2007, 08:26 PM	#1119
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	nice job Blade. Cronin was correct, once a game you have a revelation

02-28-2007, 08:32 PM	#1124
Blade6119 Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona	I have a group of 3 people i believe to be mafia...hoops isnt in it if it helps __________________ *Underachievement* The tallest blade of grass is the first to be cut by the lawnmower. *Despair* It's always darkest just before it goes pitch black. *Demotivation* Sometimes the best solution to morale problems is just to fire all of the unhappy people. http://www.despair.com/viewall.html

02-28-2007, 08:33 PM	#1125
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Marathoner held off on voting for Blade6119 down the stretch, despite being in the room while st.cronin had the lead. Doesn't necessarily mean anything, but I would think the Mob would have been incented to try and save the boss with 1-2 votes - right? Don't want to all get grouped together, but that was a key role on the line.

02-28-2007, 08:34 PM	#1126
Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	I'll admit it, I messed up. I believed hoops' story. I should have kept with my gut feel and thankfully my mess up didn't cost getting the mob boss.

02-28-2007, 08:34 PM	#1127
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Going to watch "JFK" and "Conspiracy Theory", be back later this evening.

02-28-2007, 08:38 PM	#1129
ImTheCrew High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2007	just got back and caught up, nice voting guys! we got the boss!

02-28-2007, 08:39 PM	#1130
Blade6119 Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona	Sndvls, Swaggs, and DaddyTorgo...thats my mafia list right now __________________ *Underachievement* The tallest blade of grass is the first to be cut by the lawnmower. *Despair* It's always darkest just before it goes pitch black. *Demotivation* Sometimes the best solution to morale problems is just to fire all of the unhappy people. http://www.despair.com/viewall.html

02-28-2007, 08:44 PM	#1137
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	me? wow, that's a pretty big reversal there blade.

02-28-2007, 08:46 PM	#1139
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Nice job Blade. Way to knock out the king. That was one hell of a run of votes on Blade. I'm guessing we have at least 1 if not 2 more mafia members on that list. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

02-28-2007, 08:47 PM	#1140
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	I'm taking off for a bit. I would have liked to hear Marathoner's explanation for needing a bulletproof vest and the muscle magazines, but I think he is hoping it will pass over or get lost in Blade's soapbox moment of getting something right, which I'm sure we'll hear about for the rest of the game. Vote Marathoner I am also putting it out there that hoopsguy is an eccentric, but not a badguy. I will not switch my vote for judge from him, as I feel like he is on our side. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

02-28-2007, 08:48 PM	#1141
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	I see no reason not to believe swaggs. What would he have to gain from making this play and why Marathoner? If he was trying to cause trouble there are alot of other names he could have picked like hoops.

02-28-2007, 08:48 PM	#1142
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	VOTE MARATHONER seems solid (for now) Swaggs.

02-28-2007, 08:52 PM	#1147
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Interesting that two guys that jumped on the Blade bandwagon late, have started the day 3 train on Marathoner. Marathoner - can you answer Swaggs question to why you have a muscle and bulletproof vest magazines? __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

02-28-2007, 08:52 PM	#1148
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	She thinks its cute the way I write about her here. __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

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