10-01-2006, 05:12 PM | #1101 |
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Oh and did Grey get a replacement?
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10-01-2006, 05:14 PM | #1102 | |
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You misunderstood me. I think Qwik was an assassin that they cut loose. I think the fast-talker that was converted was in blade's faction. That leaves 2-3 people in blade's old faction, including the fast talker. |
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10-01-2006, 05:16 PM | #1103 |
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I'm wondering if the sly assasin could have set up Qwik.
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10-01-2006, 05:26 PM | #1104 |
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I'm not saying I hink king is an assasin and I am more then willing to change my vote. All I am saying is another non executioun gives the assasins more time to kill without us gaining information. I know I am going out on a limb, it just seems to me we aren't doing a good job of obtaining the info we need to go forward.
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10-01-2006, 05:28 PM | #1105 |
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dola- anyone who has played with me knows I'm not afraid to put my neck on the line at this point of the game to try and stir up some discussion and get some info out there. I realize it would be eaiser ti sit back and be quiet but thats not in my nature.
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10-01-2006, 05:41 PM | #1106 | |
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If you think King is not an assassin, its negative points for nobles to execute him. We are missing info because we can't put some people on factions. I think bullet has made a claim on King, so why kill him? Grey, NTN, WVU and Lathum are the four I haven't put on factions. If people would start claiming them, I think we can get somewhere. |
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10-01-2006, 05:49 PM | #1107 |
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Fouts, I voted before bullet said anything and I'm not sold yet. Bullet also threw a vote on me at the same times which makes me suspiscous of him.
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10-01-2006, 05:50 PM | #1108 | |
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It's not quite that black and white, afaict. If king is not in my faction, and I execute him, that's negative points for me - but it's also taking away all the potential plus points he could accumulate for the duration of the game. |
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10-01-2006, 05:56 PM | #1109 | |
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It's not quite that black and white, afaict. If king is not in my faction, and I execute him, that's negative points for me - but it's also taking away all the potential plus points he could accumulate for the duration of the game. |
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10-01-2006, 07:03 PM | #1110 | |
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If another faction's leader is crowned, thats a minor victory for me. With 4 fast talking nobles, 2 days to execute assassins, and at least 1 night kill (or conversion) per night, I'll take the minor victory. I'm not sure I like the game balance in this one. Finding the assassins appears to be unreachable, so having any noble crowned is ok with me. |
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10-01-2006, 07:12 PM | #1111 | |
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Finding assassins is not unreachable. We found one already, and we'll find others. Our big problem is that people have been trying to vouch for their faction members after that member has already gone to jail. That gives us a one day delay. At the very least, we are working our way through people. The list of unknowns is shrinking. |
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10-01-2006, 07:16 PM | #1112 |
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Yeah, I agree with BrianD. Keep in mind that 4 fast talking nobles, but the number that actually get converted is not likely to be 4.
Also, at some point we'll have to execute somebody who's been vouched for. It's just too easy for an assasin to say of another assasin "he's in my faction." If we just say "ok" and move on to the next target, we'll get slaughtered. |
10-01-2006, 07:16 PM | #1113 |
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Vote Jail Lathum
Vote No Execute I want to wait before deciding what to do with King. |
10-01-2006, 07:17 PM | #1114 | |
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10-01-2006, 07:33 PM | #1115 |
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im goina stick my neck out and vouch for KingFC. i have a very strong feeling hes a noble
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10-01-2006, 07:34 PM | #1116 |
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dola
ive never done that before, it might get me killled |
10-01-2006, 07:49 PM | #1117 |
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15 people left, and I have 11 in factions. The four (Lathum, Grey, WVU, NTN) are still hanging out there, and I can't place more than 3 in any one faction.
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10-01-2006, 07:50 PM | #1118 |
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I think by executing king we are going to gain information if nothing else. I'm not sure where the jail votes are coming from for me, I haven't seen anyone give a good reason for voting for me. I would like someone to explain to me how a non execution is a good idea
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10-01-2006, 07:51 PM | #1119 | |
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1) Can't place you in a faction. 2) bullet basically vouched for king. |
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10-01-2006, 07:52 PM | #1120 | |
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have you considered the strong possibility that at least 2 of the assasins have probably "vouched" for each other. |
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10-01-2006, 07:57 PM | #1121 | |
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Has anybody vouched for you? I remember hoops saying he thought you were a noble, but I am not sure why. |
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10-01-2006, 08:02 PM | #1122 |
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10-01-2006, 08:04 PM | #1123 |
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Per message 1072, We know there is no Sly Assasin, Cronin.
I don't know who iwant to jail yet, so iwill probably put up a name tomorrow. But bullets psuedo-vouching for king is enough to stay my hand for the moment. Vote No Execution |
10-01-2006, 08:06 PM | #1124 |
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10-01-2006, 08:07 PM | #1125 |
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were gonna get nowhere in this game
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10-01-2006, 08:09 PM | #1126 |
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10-01-2006, 08:12 PM | #1127 |
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Ah, I mixed up the sly and the clever.
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10-01-2006, 08:16 PM | #1128 |
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Ok, hang on - there is a clever assasin. He (she) could have planted evidence on Qwik. We also know that probably 1 noble has been converted. That leaves 1 night where nothing happened - Qwik (or possibly somebody else) may have been framed that night. Or there may have been a bodyguard block.
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10-01-2006, 08:28 PM | #1129 | |
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It is possible that the clever assasin planted the evidence on night 2. In order for that to have happened, the assassins would have to give up a night kill, and hope that nobody in his faction vouched for him. Kind of risky. |
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10-01-2006, 08:35 PM | #1130 | |
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10-01-2006, 08:44 PM | #1131 | |
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How is this possible Fouts? Qwik was in jail on night 2. Maybe iam taking jail's protection a bit to far, but if anyone in jail cannot be touched by assassins, how could the clever assassin get to Qwik. I think Qwik was an assassin by that point. (if he wasn't already.) |
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10-01-2006, 08:46 PM | #1132 |
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So, if night 2 wasn't a conversion, and wasn't a "clever" move, then it was most likely a bodyguard block. I don't believe anybody has hinted that they are a bodyguard.
Also the efficient assasin - why have we not seen a night with 2 kills? I think it's possible our warrior is doing a very good job. |
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I thought the evidence would be planted in his room, so we would later discover he was an assassin. I don't know for sure. Quote:
Didn't blade and hoops die the same night? |
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10-01-2006, 08:53 PM | #1135 | |
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Thank you, that was what I wanted. Folks, I belive that King is an assassin who has tapped the messages of BS's guild. Most of us have realized that the guild size is three per guild. BS's guild has him and BrianD guaranteed. I believe that if you investigate, you will find that the other person is NOT King. If he has been responding well to messages recently, then I believe he has tapped the guild messages. Vote Execute King
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10-01-2006, 08:58 PM | #1136 | |
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That's right, I forgot. There was some speculation that one of them was a delayed kill, via Qwik's spitting. So Night 1 - conversion Night 2 - ?? Night 3 - 2 kills, hoopsguy and Blade Night 4 - Mr. Wednesday Hoopsguy and Blade always make sense as targets, but what made them target Mr. W? |
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10-01-2006, 08:59 PM | #1137 |
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No, we may have King, because there is no way he is in BS/BrianD's faction, which leads me to believe that he's trying to ingratiate himself with BrianD/BS's faction. Intercepted message.
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While I haven't found a fourth member of my faction, how do you explain the numbers? BK showed 5 factions. If there are 3 per faction (15 total), that leaves 4 people unaccounted for. |
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10-01-2006, 09:00 PM | #1139 |
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And BK said the assasins were represented in the 5 factions.
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Nor have I. Has anyone?
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10-01-2006, 09:02 PM | #1141 |
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But if you want proof, ask BrianD who we know is in league with BS. BrianD?
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Actually, I thought it was pretty much agreed that factions started with 4 people. |
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we know also there is an efficient assassin, so I think that may be what happened in regard to hoops and Blade. It still could have been a delayed assassination as we don't know if the tricky assassin is in this game or not.
There is another possibility in regards to the unknown night. they could have tried a jail break as well, and been thwarted. Would we have know if that had happened I don't know. |
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I'm pretty sure King is one of the four in my faction. I didn't realize it right away, but hearing everyone talk about 4 faction members combined with the fact that I could reconcile the points for my faction led me to look back at the whole game. He fits with the posts and with the points. |
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10-01-2006, 09:13 PM | #1149 | |
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I want you to do something for me. Check King's Day One and Two posts and teel me if you see one signal from him that says "in BrianD/BS's guild." Just look for one message, that's all, and I will LEAD the vote away from him. I just reviewed, and what I believe is our guild signal he never uses, so just prove me wrong and I'm off him.
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10-01-2006, 09:13 PM | #1150 |
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OK, so I am thinking about voting for 2 people. I realize I put myself out there early when it wasn't necessary but I gained alot of information by doing it.
1. Fouts jumped all over me right after my vote and said he had a "feeling". It seems he may have been waiting for a chance to jump all over someone and cast suspicioun on them. 2. NTNdeacon suddenly comes out of the woodwork once his name starts to come up which tells me his laying low strategy is starting to backfire. |
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