Werewolf LVIII: Clash of the Gods (GAME OVER)

[RendeR]

Originally Posted by Raiders Army

FWIW, I do not think it's a good idea at this point to vote for Telle. Considering Neon's vouch for her, that is why I changed my vote.

Of all of those being considered I'm still most suspicious of Telle. Neon, can you shed any more light on your defense of Telle and her reveal? Anything more convincing?

I'm looking for anything I can find here.

[RendeR]

Anyone else ever find it difficult to really get your message across to others? I wish I could explain my suspicions better, but I just can't find the words.

[DaddyTorgo]

in fact, were I a titan, I think I would use the "reveal early with a name" strategy, before people became...dulled to it. Add that to the fact that you have avoided talking about your power or any results of your actions at all (perhaps to avoid accidentally claiming a power too similar to someone else's, or a lack of imagination), and you end up with heat on you.

note: I am NOT asking you to reveal what your power is necessarily. That's a decision you have to make for yourself if you're truly an olympian...whether it is worth it to the rest of us to have you alive or whether you should take it to your grave.

[DaddyTorgo]

dola: those points were in relation to AC. Damm slow internet for a second there

[Raiders Army]

Originally Posted by RendeR

Of all of those being considered I'm still most suspicious of Telle. Neon, can you shed any more light on your defense of Telle and her reveal? Anything more convincing?

I'm looking for anything I can find here.

At this point, I think that Neon has said all he needs to say. Also, I feel bad about her and her sickness...I hope her pain heals soon.

[Neon_Chaos]

Originally Posted by RendeR

Of all of those being considered I'm still most suspicious of Telle. Neon, can you shed any more light on your defense of Telle and her reveal? Anything more convincing?

I'm looking for anything I can find here.

I cannot, without revealing my role, and my ability. There have been too many reveals right now.

Remember, I am not 100% completely sure about it, but I can vouch for Telle's claims.

[Raiders Army]

Alrighty then. I'm out for the night. I already spent too much time on the internets and need to get ready to go out. Good luck to us all.

[RendeR]

*chuckles* Chicks dig scars..* I love that line....

She was feeling a bit better when I saw her earlier today, i'm sure she'll be ok =)

[RendeR]

Never enough time to convince pople that what you believe is what they should belive....ahh well.

[ArlingtonColt]

unless NC of course is also a Titan...

My ability is I'm able to make weapons to give a player +ap points and I chose to go the "long way" in order to give the max + ap points to a player I feel is most trusted. It's not ready yet.... those my ability hasn't been revealed.... make sense?

[DaddyTorgo]

interesting guys. If we can save AC I think that might be a good play. At least until he delivers the weapon

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by ArlingtonColt

unless NC of course is also a Titan...

My ability is I'm able to make weapons to give a player +ap points and I chose to go the "long way" in order to give the max + ap points to a player I feel is most trusted. It's not ready yet.... those my ability hasn't been revealed.... make sense?

huh?

can anyone validate you gave them a weapon?

[DaddyTorgo]

UNVOTE ARLINGTON COLT

hoping to start a trend

[RendeR]

Originally Posted by ArlingtonColt

unless NC of course is also a Titan...

My ability is I'm able to make weapons to give a player +ap points and I chose to go the "long way" in order to give the max + ap points to a player I feel is most trusted. It's not ready yet.... those my ability hasn't been revealed.... make sense?

it makes plenty of sense, bu so oes everyone elses reveals AC, its not wht you say that makes a difference at this point, its that fact that the majority of us believe the Titans know what roles are real and which are not and can make up whatever they like with impunity.

Its not that we don't belive you, but we have no real reason TO believe you? Does that make sense?


For what its worth I'm very confident that you are not a Titan. You may wel be something else and simply wish to hide that, or you may be being honest. We have no way to know for sure.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by Lathum

huh?

can anyone validate you gave them a weapon?

no because what he's saying is he needs more time to make a better weapon.

FWIW this smells good to me...it's a mechanism alan has used in other games (or someone else has)

[Lathum]

why should we believe him?

why would he be able to give someone extra AP's?

I call BS

[RendeR]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

UNVOTE ARLINGTON COLT

hoping to start a trend

I tihnk thats a good move DT, hopefully others will get the message and not shoot the messenger.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by Lathum

why should we believe him?

why would he be able to give someone extra AP's?

I call BS

interesting point. I need to think more...i need to think more.

[RendeR]

Originally Posted by Lathum

why should we believe him?

why would he be able to give someone extra AP's?

I call BS

Yer jumping at ghosts here lathum, the idea behind the role and ability makes perfect sense. Sure he COULD be lying, but is it safer to kill him now and perhaps lose out on a benefit like that? Or to give him another day to see what his ability might bring out?

If he doesn't deliver soon he's probably screwed no matter how convincing he is.

[ArlingtonColt]

I guess the thinking behind it is the weapon gives that player more strength... thus allowing them to have more weight with their AP's...

I really didn't want to reveal, but I feel it's necessary if we are going to get a Titan (or a monster) tonight.

[Neon_Chaos]

We need to consolidate our votes, guys.

[Lathum]

Well when are you planning to give this weapon away?

[RendeR]

Where's Hoops with that vote count??

[Neon_Chaos]

I have a feeling that Athena isn't the seer, Apollo is. The oracles are all connected to Apollo. We need to keep Apollo alive one more day, guys.

[Chief Rum]

Anyone have a vote count?

I'm troubled more by Telle, in the absence of more information from Neon, which he says he cannot give. But it seems I may be a target, and may need to vote AC or some other close target out of self-preservation. Is there anything anyone wants to know about me or my role? I think the role reveals by and large stink, and I don't see much gain from adding to it, other than I become a target, too.

I am not a Titan, so it would be a shame for you all to waste a day lynching me.

[ArlingtonColt]

I'll admit I probably played my ability wrong because it severely hamstrings me and has in my decision making.. I could have gone with "smaller buffs" and given out more... I was just worried about giving the weapon to the wrong person... and I wanted time to get my most trusted the weapon.

[RendeR]

Originally Posted by Lathum

Well when are you planning to give this weapon away?

hrm, when its ready? realie it IS only day 3, god knows it seems like a lot longer though.

Yer seeming awfully bullish about this lathum, are you sure yer not the Minotaur?


Anyway, I'm sticking with my gut, it seems like there is a lot of reasons to change my suspect list, but I can't shake this feeling. I'm listening to the messages in my head.


VOTE TELLE

[DaddyTorgo]

yes...when are you going to be done with the weapon?

[Neon_Chaos]

Originally Posted by RendeR

hrm, when its ready? realie it IS only day 3, god knows it seems like a lot longer though.

Yer seeming awfully bullish about this lathum, are you sure yer not the Minotaur?


Anyway, I'm sticking with my gut, it seems like there is a lot of reasons to change my suspect list, but I can't shake this feeling. I'm listening to the messages in my head.


VOTE TELLE

My gut says that you're wrong.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Neon_Chaos

I have a feeling that Athena isn't the seer, Apollo is. The oracles are all connected to Apollo. We need to keep Apollo alive one more day, guys.

why on earth would you say that outloud!!

[Neon_Chaos]

Maybe Apollo has already taken a look at hoopsguy... maybe he's scanned the only guy should should be scanned first in every werewolf game.

[hoopsguy]

Votes as of Post #1127:

Hoops - Cronin (946), Neon (1063)
AC - Lathum (977), Racer (1076), Raiders (1092)
Chief - Anxiety (1028), Ardent (1066), AC (1098)
Telle - RendeR (1127)

[Neon_Chaos]

Of course, I'm not Apollo, so I can't say. Gut feeling, perhaps.

[RendeR]

Originally Posted by Neon_Chaos

Maybe Apollo has already taken a look at hoopsguy... maybe he's scanned the only guy should should be scanned first in every werewolf game.

Ok, clarify this for me...wtf does Hoops have to do with your statement and why shouldn't we lynch you for being dingaling enough to make it.

[PurdueBrad]

I've read through the last six pages about three times and am still unsure on what the right play is here. I originally came into today ready to put my vote on Arlington Colt but think it might be worth the risk to keep him alive for another day. I'm going through four people, but none of which am I getting a really strong vibe on. In fact, the lact of a strong vibe on anybody is making me wonder if the UTR theory or new guy theory might be at work here.

[hoopsguy]

If Neon is saying he is Apollo and that he sacnned me as a bad guy then this is a blatant lie.

I'll take the one-for-one trade if that is what you need to do to get a Titan.

[Lathum]

thats 2 very suspecty statements by NeonChaos

[Neon_Chaos]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

If Neon is saying he is Apollo and that he sacnned me as a bad guy then this is a blatant lie.

I'll take the one-for-one trade if that is what you need to do to get a Titan.

I am not Apollo. I am merely pointing out that Apollo should scan you tonight. Or me. So we can at least clear people up.

[hoopsguy]

Neon, you've worked on hinting at being Apollo most of the afternoon after Telle's reveal. Earlier you were suggesting that we need to make the Titan's "swim with the fishies" - were you thinking of a fake Poseidon reveal at that time?

Lathum, if you don't have a compelling reason to trust Neon right now I'm putting the vote there. Was he your visitor earlier in the game that you trusted?

[ArlingtonColt]

Yeah let me announce when I will be done.. that makes 0 sense... I've already given too much information... If you feel like its a useless ability... Lynch me and lose a Olympian

[Lathum]

UNVOTE ARLINGTONCOLT
VOTE TELLE

someone better get a weapon soon.

I think lynching Telle will tell us alot about Neon

[Lathum]

no, it was not Neon who visited me.

[DaddyTorgo]

hmmm...interesting

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by ArlingtonColt

Yeah let me announce when I will be done.. that makes 0 sense... I've already given too much information... If you feel like its a useless ability... Lynch me and lose a Olympian

well I am going to say right now that I am not guarding you tonight so you may want to make your descion fast about who gets it.

[PurdueBrad]

AC, I'm trusting you for now. I'm not asking for the weapon, but if you're good, pick the one person you think you can most trust so that we can possibly build a COT around the two of you. Pick someone that you think can clear you and has reputation enough to be trusted.

[RendeR]

Originally Posted by Lathum

well I am going to say right now that I am not guarding you tonight so you may want to make your descion fast about who gets it.

Ever stop and think its not up to HIM Lathum?

like many abilities it depends entirely on the GM?

cut the boy some slack for chists sake.


I agre with your thinking on the telle/neon conection btw.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by Lathum

thats 2 very suspecty statements by NeonChaos

He also tried to get you to come out with your BG targets last night. I am very suspicious of him right now.

[Neon_Chaos]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Neon, you've worked on hinting at being Apollo most of the afternoon after Telle's reveal. Earlier you were suggesting that we need to make the Titan's "swim with the fishies" - were you thinking of a fake Poseidon reveal at that time?

Lathum, if you don't have a compelling reason to trust Neon right now I'm putting the vote there. Was he your visitor earlier in the game that you trusted?

I actually haven't worked at hinting as being Apollo at all. It just came to me regarding Telle's mentioning that Apollo scanned her.

And no, that was a Godfather comment, regarding the fishies. We were talking about it in the office at lunch.

[RendeR]

Sometimes I think NC just gets really bored waiting for people to post and dreams up these intricate plots in his head that , from his internal perspetive, make perfect sense, and then crumble to incoherant crap once he posts them =)

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by RendeR

Ever stop and think its not up to HIM Lathum?

like many abilities it depends entirely on the GM?

cut the boy some slack for chists sake.


I agre with your thinking on the telle/neon conection btw.

he made it very clear he hasn't acted on his ability yet because he wants it to be max power so what exactly would lead you to think it isn't up to HIM when to use it?