Historical Nation Draft - Page 22

Abe Sargent · 05-18-2009, 12:12 AM

You need to find a better hobby than forum masturbation.

ntndeacon · 05-18-2009, 12:49 AM

I thought that was a clever and brilliant choice for Artist, Abe. I wish I had thought of it. There are several picks that will get knocked down at least on my ballot, because I have a disagreement about something regarding that pick...This wont be one of those.

Danny · 05-18-2009, 12:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abe Sargent

You need to find a better hobby than forum masturbation.

Like playing magic?

larrymcg421 · 05-18-2009, 01:18 AM

The fuck? The forum just swallowed my entire first post.

larrymcg421 · 05-18-2009, 01:20 AM

Okay, I had an older version in another window, but I'm going to have to finish the updates tomorrow.

Barkeep49 · 05-18-2009, 06:04 AM

I lost the pick # with all of the Vatican discussion (which I think is legal BTW and is more kosher than Taiwan)

11.4 Diego Rivera Artist Mexico 20th Century

ntndeacon · 05-18-2009, 06:45 AM

that would be 11.4 Barkeep

Barkeep49 · 05-18-2009, 06:47 AM

Thanks

larrymcg421 · 05-18-2009, 07:56 AM

Hmmm, now that BK mentioned it, I'm going to have to review the Taiwan pick. I didn't even really pay attention to the country on that one, and no objection was made at the time. It does seem their situation is a little different than Scotland and PR, but is it different enough? Looking into it...

DaddyTorgo · 05-18-2009, 08:06 AM

speaking of that - what about james joyce and ireland?

*ducks*

larrymcg421 · 05-18-2009, 08:12 AM

Joyce was born in Dublin.

Noop · 05-18-2009, 08:26 AM

I sent a PM to Larry about one of my picks so bare(panda bear) with me.

larrymcg421 · 05-18-2009, 08:33 AM

I approved it, and I'll have an explanation as soon as the pick is made.

Abe Sargent · 05-18-2009, 08:34 AM

Republic of China, aka Taiwan, is its own country, yup.

Noop · 05-18-2009, 08:36 AM

11.5 Harriet Tubman - Civil Rights - Canada - 20th Century

larrymcg421 · 05-18-2009, 08:40 AM

I approved Tubman for Canada because she actually did live there, helped her family escape to there, and helped up to 30,000 slaves escape there, and many Black Canadian communities developed as a result.

Alan T · 05-18-2009, 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by larrymcg421

I approved Tubman for Canada because she actually did live there, helped her family escape to there, and helped up to 30,000 slaves escape there, and many Black Canadian communities developed as a result.

I can't fault this ruling at all. Based on the rules of the draft, much of her work can be tied to Canada. From a voter's perspective however, I'm not sure that this pick will receive that much weight to me however as most of her work was not in Canada. She only started helping bring slaves to Canada once the slave fugutive act was passed, and even then the majority of her work was still in the USA, including the time in the civil war where she helped serve the Union Army.

At this late in the draft however, I highly doubt anyone is counting on picks here to be the main weight in getting voters to go for them however. So probably not a big deal.

ntndeacon · 05-18-2009, 11:46 AM

Harriet Tubman was in the 20th century?

Danny · 05-18-2009, 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ntndeacon

Harriet Tubman was in the 20th century?

She technically lived until then, but all of her contributions were earlier. The pick should still be allowed in 20th, but I think ithe questions surrounding the pick will be reflected in the voting

DaddyTorgo · 05-18-2009, 12:10 PM

She also moved her family back from Southern Ontario to Auburn, NY and lived out the last years of her life there, not in Canada. So the Canada connection is extremely tenuous. She "lived" there from 1855-1859 (although how much she was actually there is up to debate, her parents and family were there) according to what I could find on Wikipedia. And then lived from 1859-1913 in Auburn, NY.

Danny · 05-18-2009, 12:44 PM

Izulde is up right?

Coffee Warlord · 05-18-2009, 04:25 PM

Someone kick Izulde in the face.

Galaril · 05-18-2009, 04:26 PM

Wow we really are slacking now.

Abe Sargent · 05-18-2009, 04:37 PM

We went so fast over the weekend too.

Coffee Warlord · 05-18-2009, 04:42 PM

I'm halfway tempted to pick since I'm picking in a category he already has.

Danny · 05-18-2009, 04:47 PM

Did anyone PM him?

Danny · 05-18-2009, 04:48 PM

I did just now, just in case

Surtt · 05-18-2009, 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

I'm halfway tempted to pick since I'm picking in a category he already has.

That might confuse people and we still would have to wait anyway.

Danny · 05-18-2009, 06:02 PM

I'm halfway tempted to just put in my final four picks

Izulde · 05-18-2009, 06:28 PM

Guh, sorry! I slept 15 hours

Izulde · 05-18-2009, 06:28 PM

Looking over board now.

Izulde · 05-18-2009, 06:36 PM

11.6 Robert de La Salle - Navy Chief - France - Pre-20th Century

Arguably the most extensive of the French explorers, he explored the Great Lakes region, the Mississippi River and the Gulf of Mexico. His Louisiana expeditions are his most famous and his discoveries and explorations led to his claiming the entire Mississippi River basin for France.

Coffee Warlord · 05-18-2009, 07:50 PM

11.7 Carl Menger, Economist, Poland, 20th

I give to you...the founder of the Austrian School of Economics. Tutored the crown prince of Austria in economics, chair of politicial economy in Vienna, and headed a commission to reform the Austrian monetary system.

DaddyTorgo · 05-18-2009, 09:08 PM

cool. I can't believe this guy is still here.

11.8 Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Artist, Austria, Pre-20th century

DaddyTorgo · 05-18-2009, 09:08 PM

sorry - was reinstalling windows there for the last lil while

Noop · 05-18-2009, 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

cool. I can't believe this guy is still here.

11.8 Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Artist, Austria, Pre-20th century

I dispute this pick.

Danny · 05-18-2009, 09:12 PM

What's wrong with it?

Noop · 05-18-2009, 09:13 PM

It is tenuous at best.

DaddyTorgo · 05-18-2009, 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noop

I dispute this pick.

based on what? the lists of people by category aren't there - did someone pick an austrian artist already?

DaddyTorgo · 05-18-2009, 09:14 PM

music is art

Danny · 05-18-2009, 09:14 PM

Because of the category?

DaddyTorgo · 05-18-2009, 09:14 PM

unquestionably

musical ARTISTS

Noop · 05-18-2009, 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

music is art

Missing the joke? You said the same about my pick earlier, I am just kidding with you.

Danny · 05-18-2009, 09:15 PM

Music is art, there's a reason the grammy is given to best musical artist.

larrymcg421 · 05-18-2009, 09:21 PM

The first post was getting too big for the forum, and that's why it kept disappearing. I'm gonna add a link to the category and drafter lists tonight.

DaddyTorgo · 05-18-2009, 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noop

Missing the joke? You said the same about my pick earlier, I am just kidding with you.

lol yep - missing the joke!

You would have loved what I would have picked if USA artist + 20th century wasn't picked then!

Noop · 05-18-2009, 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

lol yep - missing the joke!

You would have loved what I would have picked if USA artist + 20th century wasn't picked then!

Throw up since it likely can't be used.

DaddyTorgo · 05-18-2009, 09:27 PM

a certain King...

DaddyTorgo · 05-18-2009, 09:27 PM

of Pop

Danny · 05-18-2009, 09:30 PM

Justin Timberlake?

05-18-2009, 12:12 AM	#1051
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	You need to find a better hobby than forum masturbation. __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent Last edited by Abe Sargent : 05-18-2009 at 12:12 AM.

05-18-2009, 01:18 AM	#1054
larrymcg421 Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Georgia	The fuck? The forum just swallowed my entire first post. __________________ Top 10 Songs of the Year 1955-Present (1976 Added) Franchise Portfolio Draft Winner Fictional Character Draft Winner Television Family Draft Winner Build Your Own Hollywood Studio Draft Winner

05-18-2009, 01:20 AM	#1055
larrymcg421 Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Georgia	Okay, I had an older version in another window, but I'm going to have to finish the updates tomorrow. __________________ Top 10 Songs of the Year 1955-Present (1976 Added) Franchise Portfolio Draft Winner Fictional Character Draft Winner Television Family Draft Winner Build Your Own Hollywood Studio Draft Winner

05-18-2009, 06:04 AM	#1056
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	I lost the pick # with all of the Vatican discussion (which I think is legal BTW and is more kosher than Taiwan) 11.4 Diego Rivera Artist Mexico 20th Century Last edited by Barkeep49 : 05-18-2009 at 06:47 AM.

05-18-2009, 07:56 AM	#1059
larrymcg421 Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Georgia	Hmmm, now that BK mentioned it, I'm going to have to review the Taiwan pick. I didn't even really pay attention to the country on that one, and no objection was made at the time. It does seem their situation is a little different than Scotland and PR, but is it different enough? Looking into it... __________________ Top 10 Songs of the Year 1955-Present (1976 Added) Franchise Portfolio Draft Winner Fictional Character Draft Winner Television Family Draft Winner Build Your Own Hollywood Studio Draft Winner

05-18-2009, 12:49 AM	#1052
ntndeacon Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Alabama	I thought that was a clever and brilliant choice for Artist, Abe. I wish I had thought of it. There are several picks that will get knocked down at least on my ballot, because I have a disagreement about something regarding that pick...This wont be one of those.

05-18-2009, 06:45 AM	#1057
ntndeacon Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Alabama	that would be 11.4 Barkeep

05-18-2009, 06:47 AM	#1058
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	Thanks

05-18-2009, 08:06 AM	#1060
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	speaking of that - what about james joyce and ireland? ducks __________________ If I've ever helped you and you'd like to buy me a coffee, or just to say thanks, I have my Bitcoin and Ethereum addressed listed below :) BTC: bc1qykhsfyn9vw4ntqfgr0svj4n9tjdgufryh2pxn5 ETH: 0x2AcdC5cd88EA537063553F5b240073bE067BaCa9

05-18-2009, 08:12 AM	#1061
larrymcg421 Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Georgia	Joyce was born in Dublin. __________________ Top 10 Songs of the Year 1955-Present (1976 Added) Franchise Portfolio Draft Winner Fictional Character Draft Winner Television Family Draft Winner Build Your Own Hollywood Studio Draft Winner

05-18-2009, 08:26 AM	#1062
Noop Bonafide Seminole Fan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Miami	I sent a PM to Larry about one of my picks so bare(panda bear) with me. __________________ Subby's favorite woman hater.

05-18-2009, 08:33 AM	#1063
larrymcg421 Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Georgia	I approved it, and I'll have an explanation as soon as the pick is made. __________________ Top 10 Songs of the Year 1955-Present (1976 Added) Franchise Portfolio Draft Winner Fictional Character Draft Winner Television Family Draft Winner Build Your Own Hollywood Studio Draft Winner

05-18-2009, 08:34 AM	#1064
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	Republic of China, aka Taiwan, is its own country, yup. __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

05-18-2009, 08:36 AM	#1065
Noop Bonafide Seminole Fan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Miami	11.5 Harriet Tubman - Civil Rights - Canada - 20th Century __________________ Subby's favorite woman hater. Last edited by Noop : 05-18-2009 at 08:37 AM.

05-18-2009, 08:40 AM	#1066
larrymcg421 Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Georgia	I approved Tubman for Canada because she actually did live there, helped her family escape to there, and helped up to 30,000 slaves escape there, and many Black Canadian communities developed as a result. __________________ Top 10 Songs of the Year 1955-Present (1976 Added) Franchise Portfolio Draft Winner Fictional Character Draft Winner Television Family Draft Winner Build Your Own Hollywood Studio Draft Winner

05-18-2009, 11:46 AM	#1068
ntndeacon Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Alabama	Harriet Tubman was in the 20th century?

05-18-2009, 12:10 PM	#1070
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	She also moved her family back from Southern Ontario to Auburn, NY and lived out the last years of her life there, not in Canada. So the Canada connection is extremely tenuous. She "lived" there from 1855-1859 (although how much she was actually there is up to debate, her parents and family were there) according to what I could find on Wikipedia. And then lived from 1859-1913 in Auburn, NY. __________________ If I've ever helped you and you'd like to buy me a coffee, or just to say thanks, I have my Bitcoin and Ethereum addressed listed below :) BTC: bc1qykhsfyn9vw4ntqfgr0svj4n9tjdgufryh2pxn5 ETH: 0x2AcdC5cd88EA537063553F5b240073bE067BaCa9 Last edited by DaddyTorgo : 05-18-2009 at 12:12 PM.

05-18-2009, 12:44 PM	#1071
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Izulde is up right?

05-18-2009, 04:25 PM	#1072
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	Someone kick Izulde in the face.

05-18-2009, 04:26 PM	#1073
Galaril Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2004	Wow we really are slacking now.

05-18-2009, 04:37 PM	#1074
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	We went so fast over the weekend too. __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

05-18-2009, 04:42 PM	#1075
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	I'm halfway tempted to pick since I'm picking in a category he already has.

05-18-2009, 04:47 PM	#1076
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Did anyone PM him?

05-18-2009, 04:48 PM	#1077
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	I did just now, just in case

05-18-2009, 06:02 PM	#1079
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	I'm halfway tempted to just put in my final four picks

05-18-2009, 06:28 PM	#1080
Izulde Head Coach Join Date: Sep 2004	Guh, sorry! I slept 15 hours __________________ 2006 Golden Scribe Nominee 2006 Golden Scribe Winner Best Non-Sport Dynasty: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty) Rookie Writer of the Year Dynasty of the Year: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty)

05-18-2009, 06:28 PM	#1081
Izulde Head Coach Join Date: Sep 2004	Looking over board now. __________________ 2006 Golden Scribe Nominee 2006 Golden Scribe Winner Best Non-Sport Dynasty: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty) Rookie Writer of the Year Dynasty of the Year: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty)

05-18-2009, 06:36 PM	#1082
Izulde Head Coach Join Date: Sep 2004	11.6 Robert de La Salle - Navy Chief - France - Pre-20th Century Arguably the most extensive of the French explorers, he explored the Great Lakes region, the Mississippi River and the Gulf of Mexico. His Louisiana expeditions are his most famous and his discoveries and explorations led to his claiming the entire Mississippi River basin for France. __________________ 2006 Golden Scribe Nominee 2006 Golden Scribe Winner Best Non-Sport Dynasty: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty) Rookie Writer of the Year Dynasty of the Year: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty)

05-18-2009, 07:50 PM	#1083
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	11.7 Carl Menger, Economist, Poland, 20th I give to you...the founder of the Austrian School of Economics. Tutored the crown prince of Austria in economics, chair of politicial economy in Vienna, and headed a commission to reform the Austrian monetary system.

05-18-2009, 09:08 PM	#1084
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	cool. I can't believe this guy is still here. 11.8 Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Artist, Austria, Pre-20th century __________________ If I've ever helped you and you'd like to buy me a coffee, or just to say thanks, I have my Bitcoin and Ethereum addressed listed below :) BTC: bc1qykhsfyn9vw4ntqfgr0svj4n9tjdgufryh2pxn5 ETH: 0x2AcdC5cd88EA537063553F5b240073bE067BaCa9

05-18-2009, 09:08 PM	#1085
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	sorry - was reinstalling windows there for the last lil while __________________ If I've ever helped you and you'd like to buy me a coffee, or just to say thanks, I have my Bitcoin and Ethereum addressed listed below :) BTC: bc1qykhsfyn9vw4ntqfgr0svj4n9tjdgufryh2pxn5 ETH: 0x2AcdC5cd88EA537063553F5b240073bE067BaCa9

05-18-2009, 09:12 PM	#1087
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	What's wrong with it?

05-18-2009, 09:13 PM	#1088
Noop Bonafide Seminole Fan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Miami	It is tenuous at best. __________________ Subby's favorite woman hater.

05-18-2009, 09:14 PM	#1090
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	music is art __________________ If I've ever helped you and you'd like to buy me a coffee, or just to say thanks, I have my Bitcoin and Ethereum addressed listed below :) BTC: bc1qykhsfyn9vw4ntqfgr0svj4n9tjdgufryh2pxn5 ETH: 0x2AcdC5cd88EA537063553F5b240073bE067BaCa9

05-18-2009, 09:14 PM	#1091
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Because of the category?