So The Superbowl is Over (Unofficial 2007 NFL Draft/Free Agency Thread)

[st.cronin]

Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

I've been following this whole dog fighting ring at Michael Vick's semi-occupied palatial estate story on profootballtalk.com. It seems like there's quite a bit of evidence that Vick's place was used as part of a dog fighting ring. 70 pit bulls, some with injuries and scars, many that are malnourished...

If it does turn out that Vick's been using his home for that, or even if he just knew/allowed his house to be used for that... fuck him. He's dead to me.

There are few things that get my blood boiling hotter than the whole dog fighting thing. I just find it repulsive.

Ditto.

[Fonzie]

profootballtalk.com is now reporting that the Patriots might be in the mix for Randy Moss.

They really need another receiver?

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by Fonzie

profootballtalk.com is now reporting that the Patriots might be in the mix for Randy Moss.

They really need another receiver?

i'm going to hurl

[Arles]

Originally Posted by Fonzie

But then, who does TT want over Lynch? I don't have a clue. Perhaps his plan is simply to convince everyone that he's desperate to grab a RB, and that Lynch is great, just to drum up interest in pick #16. That way someone from the lower half of round one might trade spots with him and he can get more picks in the process.

If I was pressed to guess what GB will do tomorrow, here's what I would say:

1. Trade down from 16 with KC to 23 and take S Michael Griffin from Texas (get KC's 3rd rounder as well). The Chiefs are reportedly high on 3-4 guys the may go by 20 (Staley, Revis, Lynch) and I could see them moving up for a 3rd.

2. Trade down from #47 with Philly to #57 and take RB Brandon Jackson (get Philly's fourth as well). Jackson is a zone-scheme back from Nebraska who can carry the load and has a nice size/speed combo. He'd be a nice fit with Morency. Philly wants the FB from Rutgers and he may not make it past 50.

3a. Take TE Ben Patrick with #78 (their pick).

3b. Trade KC's pick (#84, ironically enough) to Oakland for Randy Moss.

That would net GB a safety, RB, TE and WR. Then, GB would have 7 picks in day 2 to take shots on other spots (nickel corner, FB, depth). They could also go TE Olsen at #23 and Sabby Piscitelli with #78 and I would be happy.

[WVUFAN]

Originally Posted by Fonzie

profootballtalk.com is now reporting that the Patriots might be in the mix for Randy Moss.

They really need another receiver?

The Patriots don't need him.

No, lemme rephrase -- the Patriots don't need the headaches associated with him.

[Fonzie]

Originally Posted by Arles

If I was pressed to guess what GB will do tomorrow, here's what I would say:

1. Trade down from 16 with KC to 23 and take S Michael Griffin from Texas (get KC's 3rd rounder as well). The Chiefs are reportedly high on 3-4 guys the may go by 20 (Staley, Revis, Lynch) and I could see them moving up for a 3rd.

2. Trade down from #47 with Philly to #57 and take RB Brandon Jackson (get Philly's fourth as well). Jackson is a zone-scheme back from Nebraska who can carry the load and has a nice size/speed combo. He'd be a nice fit with Morency. Philly wants the FB from Rutgers and he may not make it past 50.

3a. Take TE Ben Patrick with #78 (their pick).

3b. Trade KC's pick (#84, ironically enough) to Oakland for Randy Moss.

That would net GB a safety, RB, TE and WR. Then, GB would have 7 picks in day 2 to take shots on other spots (nickel corner, FB, depth). They could also go TE Olsen at #23 and Sabby Piscitelli with #78 and I would be happy.

I would love to see either of those scenarios unfold. Which means, of course, that neither will.

[johnnyshaka]

Originally Posted by Arles

If I was pressed to guess what GB will do tomorrow, here's what I would say:

2. Trade down from #47 with Philly to #57 and take RB Brandon Jackson (get Philly's fourth as well).

Eagles don't have a 4th rounder this year...the Saints got it for Stallworth.

[JeeberD]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

i'm going to hurl

Now you understand my pain...

[Swaggs]

Originally Posted by Fonzie

profootballtalk.com is now reporting that the Patriots might be in the mix for Randy Moss.

They really need another receiver?

Would this be Bill Belichek's "I'm Keith Hernandez" moment?

[Arles]

Originally Posted by johnnyshaka

Eagles don't have a 4th rounder this year...the Saints got it for Stallworth.

We could pretty much trade down with anyone from 55-62 and still get him. Maybe New Orleans at 58 would want to move up since they have 3 4th round picks.

[st.cronin]

Originally Posted by Fonzie

profootballtalk.com is now reporting that the Patriots might be in the mix for Randy Moss.

They really need another receiver?

That could be like the inverse of the Irving Fryar story. Yeah, I'm a dreamer.

[stevew]

My Eyes burn of Heresy.....




White pants, and piss colored domes.....fuck that. The Jersey, I can live with however. It's basic enough, yet not fugly like the Eagles one.

[Ryche]

Originally Posted by Arles

If I was pressed to guess what GB will do tomorrow, here's what I would say:

1. Trade down from 16 with KC to 23 and take S Michael Griffin from Texas (get KC's 3rd rounder as well). The Chiefs are reportedly high on 3-4 guys the may go by 20 (Staley, Revis, Lynch) and I could see them moving up for a 3rd.

2. Trade down from #47 with Philly to #57 and take RB Brandon Jackson (get Philly's fourth as well). Jackson is a zone-scheme back from Nebraska who can carry the load and has a nice size/speed combo. He'd be a nice fit with Morency. Philly wants the FB from Rutgers and he may not make it past 50.

3a. Take TE Ben Patrick with #78 (their pick).

3b. Trade KC's pick (#84, ironically enough) to Oakland for Randy Moss.

That would net GB a safety, RB, TE and WR. Then, GB would have 7 picks in day 2 to take shots on other spots (nickel corner, FB, depth). They could also go TE Olsen at #23 and Sabby Piscitelli with #78 and I would be happy.

I had Green Bay trading up to get Adrian Peterson in the mock draft I made. I could easily see them doing that if Peterson gets past Minnesota. Possibly add Moss as well, and that's a potentially scary looking offense for Farve to end his career with.

[Logan]

Darrell Jackson is in San Francisco right now taking a physical. If everything clears, he'll become a Niner for a 4th rounder, #124 (3 of 4 in that round). I'm not a huge Jackson fan, given his injury problems, but to get him from a divisional rival for our lowest tradeable 4th is a steal. Especially for a team with very little in the WR dept.

[Bearcat729]

I swear if the Browns trade up to #1 I will hunt Phil Savage down and kick him repeatedly in the groin. And if Romeo Crennel had anything to do with it then he’ll be next on my list.

[Vinatieri for Prez]

Who better? Wes Welker for a 2nd rounder or Darrell Jackson for a 4th rounder?

[Swaggs]

Originally Posted by stevew

My Eyes burn of Heresy.....




White pants, and piss colored domes.....fuck that. The Jersey, I can live with however. It's basic enough, yet not fugly like the Eagles one.

and if you like that, you'll love their new mascot.

[MikeVic]

What are the steelers doing?? lol damnit.

[stevew]

Originally Posted by Swaggs

and if you like that, you'll love their new mascot.

Shirley they cannot be serious.

[albionmoonlight]

Rumor has it that Keyshawn Johnson was just cut.

I'm trying to decide if that is relevant or not.

[Logan]

Kinda funny when he was going on and on about tutoring Dwayne Jarrett.

[rkmsuf]

Originally Posted by Logan

Kinda funny when he was going on and on about tutoring Dwayne Jarrett.

Guess the Panthers had a good handle on his tudor ratings. He's the furthest thing from a tudor that you could get I would think.

[MIJB#19]

I didn't know Bob the Builder was a Steelers fan...

[st.cronin]

Ping: Patriots

[Ksyrup]

I would pay 25 billion dollars to see Randy Moss, Keyshawn Johnson, and Terrell Owens line up in a 3 WR set for the Patriots.

I'd pay even more to see them fight over who lines up in a 2-WR set.

[Mike1409]

I could see Keyshawn going to the Eagles. He could prove he is better than TO by actually getting McNabb traded/ released. Or actually killing himself with an overdose of painkillers!

[johnnyshaka]

Hmmm...for the right price, I wouldn't mind seeing him in Philly one bit. Get him out there on 3rd down and in the red zone and he could be very effective...but would he settle for that kind of role and the appropriate dollars...probably not.

[ISiddiqui]

I hope the Falcons find a way to get Keyshawn. A possession reciever would be very helpful (and Keyshawn is better than Finneran at that).

[miami_fan]

Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

I hope the Falcons find a way to get Keyshawn. A possession reciever would be very helpful (and Keyshawn is better than Finneran at that).

I thought that was Joe Horn's role at this point?

[Fonzie]

Given how terribly the Packers have whiffed at everybody in free agency, I probably shouldn't hold out any hope that Ted Thompson will take a stab at Keyshawn.

[QuikSand]

While I agree Keyshawn has a variety of liabilities, I also think that he could help several teams meaningfully. Atl and Phi both seem like reasonable candidates to me, as would KC and... oh, hell, dare I say Oakland?

[MikeVic]

Isn't Keyshawn a decent blocking WR? Maybe I'm completely wrong, but I was always under that impression.

[TazFTW]

Cowboys should bring back Key and not pay TO his roster bonus.

[ISiddiqui]

Originally Posted by miami_fan

I thought that was Joe Horn's role at this point?

Oh, right.. the Falcons did get Horn... well, Keyshawn couldn't hurt .

[johnnyshaka]

Originally Posted by QuikSand

While I agree Keyshawn has a variety of liabilities, I also think that he could help several teams meaningfully. Atl and Phi both seem like reasonable candidates to me, as would KC and... oh, hell, dare I say Oakland?

I would think Keyshawn would be more likely to end up on a "contender" and not a team undergoing a rebuild...so I would think that KC and Oakland probably wouldn't be on his radar.

[JeeberD]

Originally Posted by TazFTW

Cowboys should bring back Key and not pay TO his roster bonus.

Word. Or just bring Key back. We need someone with decent hands out there...

[M GO BLUE!!!]

Originally Posted by johnnyshaka

I would think Keyshawn would be more likely to end up on a "contender" and not a team undergoing a rebuild...so I would think that KC and Oakland probably wouldn't be on his radar.

I can think of another team in that division that could use a good posession receiver who can lay a block for a RB... That team could even be a contender.

But why would Keyshawn want to play an hour south of where he lives?

[SFL Cat]

Bad time to get released . FA is pretty much over.

He could find himself waiting by the phone hoping someone calls him about a teevee gig.

[Ksyrup]

Re Michael Vick and his issues, I hadn't heard about this one:


"Coming off a disappointing season that saw him fined $10,000 for flipping the bird to local fans, Vick hasn't exactly upped his image the past few months. A water bottle belonging to him was confiscated after security officers smelled pot and saw a hidden compartment on the bottle, a compartment Vick said he used to carry jewelry. Last week he missed a flight to D.C. to lobby before members of Congress for increased funding for after-school programs. Then came this bombshell: Local and federal investigators in Virginia are looking into a possible dog-fighting ring at property owned by Vick."

[Logan]

He talked about that with Suzy Kolber on the day of the draft.

No, he did not ask to kiss her.

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by Ksyrup

Re Michael Vick and his issues, I hadn't heard about this one:


"Coming off a disappointing season that saw him fined $10,000 for flipping the bird to local fans, Vick hasn't exactly upped his image the past few months. A water bottle belonging to him was confiscated after security officers smelled pot and saw a hidden compartment on the bottle, a compartment Vick said he used to carry jewelry. Last week he missed a flight to D.C. to lobby before members of Congress for increased funding for after-school programs. Then came this bombshell: Local and federal investigators in Virginia are looking into a possible dog-fighting ring at property owned by Vick."

He claims his flight was delayed and it forced him to miss his connecting flight. The airline company said he was never booked on the particular connecting flight he claimed to be booked for. He was instead booked for a flight that was a few hours later that he could have easily made. They had him down as a no-show for that flight.

[Ksyrup]

I was delayed in getting to the draft party I was never supposed to be at, so I guess I missed this story.

[JonInMiddleGA]

http://www.ajc.com/sports/content/sp...506batman.html

Batman Carroll faces drugs, weapons charges
Published on: 05/06/07

Jacksonville Jaguars cornerback Ahmad Carroll, who played at Douglass High and Arkansas, was arrested in Atlanta early Saturday on gun and drugs charges. Carroll, 23, was releaased on bond after a morning court appearance.

At about 2:45 a.m. Saturday, police responded to a call of a disturbance involving a weapon at Beautiful Restaurant on Cascade Road in southwest Atlanta. Carroll, who was said to be involved in the disturbance, was questioned by officers and admitted that he had a weapon, Atlanta police Officer James Polite said. The NFL cornerback consented to a search of his person and his vehicle, Polite said.

Carroll was arrested on suspicion of possessing of a firearm in the commission of a crime; carrying a concealed weapon without a permit; carrying a pistol without a license; and possession of 11 pink tablets that police believe to be Ecstasy pills, Polite said. Carroll was taken to Fulton County jail.

[Ksyrup]

Updated: May 10, 2007, 9:56 AM ET
Report claims Vick has 'affinity' for dog-fighting culture

ATLANTA -- Two friends of Atlanta Falcons quarterback Michael Vick are convinced he has been involved in illegal dog fighting at a home he owns in Virginia, they told SI.com on Thursday, despite Vick's denials. "He knows what's going on in that house in Virginia," one unnamed source told SI.com. "There's not a doubt in my mind he's involved with it." A second source, quoted by SI.com, said Vick has a longtime "affinity" for the culture surrounding dog fighting. On Wednesday, Falcons head coach Bobby Petrino said he hopes his star quarterback will soon be cleared of any connection to the dozens of dogs found last month at the home Vick owns in Smithfield, Va. Police were conducting a drug raid on the house at the time the dogs were discovered. "I need to believe in Michael," said Petrino, the Falcons' coach since January. "Since I've been here, a couple of situations have come up and we've talked about them. His track record with me is that he's told me the truth. I'm going to believe what Michael tells me." In interviews given during the NFL draft, Vick blamed wayward relatives for taking advantage of his generosity and insisted that he's rarely at the Virginia house -- even though he owns it. Falcons owner Arthur Blank, contacted by SI.com by phone on Wednesday, also denied insinuations that he has been soft on his $130 million quarterback. "There's no coddling going on here,'' Blank said to SI.com. "Whatever is 180 degrees from that, that's the reality. The [financial] investment we've made in him has nothing to do with the way we treat him. When Michael has done something wrong that has been documented, we've had very direct conversations with him. We don't have all the facts of the [dog fighting] investigation, but obviously the story's not developing well. Which is one of the reasons why I asked [commissioner Roger Goodell] to speak to Michael about the situation and to be as stern as he felt he needed to be.'' Vick told ESPN during the draft that he had met face-to-face with Goodell in late April. In the interview, Vick pledged he would make changes in his life. "I'm taking it upon myself and giving everybody my word that things are going to get changed around," Vick said in the interview. "Things are going to get turned around. I have a game plan for it. ... The company I keep, a lot of things [have] got to change, and I mean that from the heart." Blank added that he expects Vick's behavior to change. "I would say Michael understands, and I told him he is in essence on a short leash,'' Blank told SI.com. "His behavior cannot go on this way. His actions need to be different; his decisions need to be different. He can't just talk about changing things, he has to change his life. He says he understands, and I'm hoping he's being truthful with us and wants to deal with it. I hope he has the personal strength. I think it's very appropriate to say he's at a crossroads.'' Vick does have an apparent interest in breeding animals such as pit bulls and Rottweilers. A Web site for "Mike Vick K-9 Kennels'' includes a disclaimer that any of its dogs are used for fighting, which is banned nationwide and is a felony in 48 states including Virginia and Georgia. Another Web site for an Atlanta-area breeder, Sanders Kennels, shows a picture of Vick holding a Presa Canario puppy, an animal that it says is "bred for loyalty, protection, guarding, and peace of mind. They can and will protect.'' The Falcons begin a three-day minicamp this weekend, with Petrino looking to install his offense and see what several rookies might bring to his team. "This weekend is a situation where we have to focus everything on football," Petrino said. "That's what I'm going to talk about over the weekend. We only have five practices and one mandatory minicamp. We've got to take all the distractions, put them on the shelf and concentrate on football. I'm going to instruct our team to do that."

[rkmsuf]

dog fighting culture? who knew there was such a thing.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

http://www.ajc.com/sports/content/sp...506batman.html

Batman Carroll faces drugs, weapons charges
Published on: 05/06/07

Jacksonville Jaguars cornerback Ahmad Carroll, who played at Douglass High and Arkansas, was arrested in Atlanta early Saturday on gun and drugs charges. Carroll, 23, was releaased on bond after a morning court appearance.

At about 2:45 a.m. Saturday, police responded to a call of a disturbance involving a weapon at Beautiful Restaurant on Cascade Road in southwest Atlanta. Carroll, who was said to be involved in the disturbance, was questioned by officers and admitted that he had a weapon, Atlanta police Officer James Polite said. The NFL cornerback consented to a search of his person and his vehicle, Polite said.

Carroll was arrested on suspicion of possessing of a firearm in the commission of a crime; carrying a concealed weapon without a permit; carrying a pistol without a license; and possession of 11 pink tablets that police believe to be Ecstasy pills, Polite said. Carroll was taken to Fulton County jail.

I was really sad when the Packers cut this guy. He was good for at least 2-3 horrible pass interference type plays a game.

[flere-imsaho]

Watch any of those "animal rescue" shows on Animal Planet. Almost every show it seems they're rescueing some dog from a fighting ring.

[Comey]

Originally Posted by stevew

My Eyes burn of Heresy.....




White pants, and piss colored domes.....fuck that. The Jersey, I can live with however. It's basic enough, yet not fugly like the Eagles one.

Unsure if you are aware, but that's just for their 75th anniversary. They'll wear that for one game, like the Eagles will for one game (I believe that's 9/23, though I'm not remembering off the top of my head if that's right or not).

-John

[MikeVic]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

http://www.ajc.com/sports/content/sp...506batman.html

Batman Carroll faces drugs, weapons charges
Published on: 05/06/07

Jacksonville Jaguars cornerback Ahmad Carroll, who played at Douglass High and Arkansas, was arrested in Atlanta early Saturday on gun and drugs charges. Carroll, 23, was releaased on bond after a morning court appearance.

At about 2:45 a.m. Saturday, police responded to a call of a disturbance involving a weapon at Beautiful Restaurant on Cascade Road in southwest Atlanta. Carroll, who was said to be involved in the disturbance, was questioned by officers and admitted that he had a weapon, Atlanta police Officer James Polite said. The NFL cornerback consented to a search of his person and his vehicle, Polite said.

Carroll was arrested on suspicion of possessing of a firearm in the commission of a crime; carrying a concealed weapon without a permit; carrying a pistol without a license; and possession of 11 pink tablets that police believe to be Ecstasy pills, Polite said. Carroll was taken to Fulton County jail.

"Batman" Carroll?? What the.

[Ksyrup]

I didn't realize Culpepper was on the way out. I just thought they were bringing in Green for competition/depth.



Fins will swap Green for Culpepper

Posted: Thursday May 10, 2007 10:26AM ET

Despite the apparent logic in giving Daunte Culpepper and Ricky Williams a chance, it has been reported Miami will trade or release Culpepper when the seemingly forever-imminent Trent Green deal happens.