WW CLVII - Ghostbusters - Game Over (result in post 1521)

[Zinto]

Originally Posted by Lathum

may I ask what college?

I go to a little school in Michigan, Saginaw Valley State. It sold me on the super nice campus and the easy scholarships that they offer.

[Narcizo]

Wolves ought to have brutaled Hoops and night killed Danny. Unless they knew that Danny wasn't a convertee. Makes no sense that they would risk brutalling the convertee. All of which makes me think that maybe they can scan for convertibles. (Ah-ha).

Anyway, yay for a good result. Boo for me being on the wrong side of it, as per.

[Narcizo]

Day One

20:43 #46 Lathum votes Autumn (1)
20:51 #49 Coffee votes Danny (1)
02:35 #57 Narcizo votes DaddyTorgo (1)
09:30 #68 Autumn votes Lathum (1)
09:43 #69 Britrock votes Chubby (1)

11:05 #75 Packer votes Autumn (2)
11:15 #76 Bhlloy votes Packer (1)
11:43 #82 murrayyyyy votes Coffee (1)
12:34 #85 mauchow votes Danny (2)
12:47 #89 Danny votes Lathum (2)

13:09 #91 Coffee unvotes Danny (1)
13:34 #95 Hoops votes DaddyTorgo (2)
14:13 #99 Coffee votes Packers (2)
14:32 #108 Chubby votes Mau (1)
15:54 #114 Pass votes Mau (2)
15:58 #119 Coffee unvotes Packers (1)
15:58 #119 Coffee votes DaddyTorgo (3)
15:59 #120 mau unvotes Danny (0)

16:07 #127 Mau votes Coffee (2)
16:15 #129 fontisian votes Lathum (3)
17:18 #134 britrock unvotes Chubby (0)
17:18 #134 britrock votes Coffee (3)
17:24 #137 Lathum unvotes Autumn (1)
17:24 #137 Lathum votes mau (3)
17:46 #139 Bhlloy unvotes Packers (0)
17:46 #139 Bhlloy votes Lathum (4)
17:53 #140 Lathum unvotes Mau (2)
17:53 #140 Lathum votes Coffee (4)

18:04 #146 Coffee unvotes DaddyTorgo (2)
18:04 #146 Coffee votes mau (3)
18:31 #150 Lathum unvotes Coffee (3)
18:31 #150 Lathum votes mau (4)
18:53 #160 Packer unvotes Autumn (0)
18:53 #161 Packers votes Coffee (4)
19:22 #171 Zinto votes Lathum (5)
19:58 #182 Mau unvotes Coffee (3)
19:58 #182 Mau votes DaddyTorgo (3)

20:00 #187 Danny unvotes Lathum (4)
20:00 #187 Danny votes DaddyTorgo (4)
20:02 #189 Lathum unvotes Mau (3)
20:02 #189 Lathum votes DaddyTorgo (5)
20:05 #199 DaddyTorgo votes Lathum (5)
20:28 #208 Coffee unvotes mau (2)
20:28 #208 Coffee votes DaddyTorgo (6)
20:29 #210 Daddy unvotes Lathum (4)
20:29 #210 Daddy votes Coffee (4)

20:50 #232 Brit unvotes Coffee (3)
20:50 #232 Brit votes Lathum (5)
20:50 #233 Daddy unvotes Coffee (2)
20:50 #233 Daddy votes Lathum (6)
20:53 #241 Zinto unvotes Lathum (5)
20:53 #241 Zinto votes Daddy (7)
20:57 #265 Chubby unvotes mau (1)
20:57 #265 Chubby votes Daddy (8)

Day One Tally:

8 DaddyTorgo - Narcizo (57), hoopsguy (95), mauchow (182), Danny (187), Lathum (189), Coffee Warlord (208), Zinto (241), Chubby (265)
5 Lathum - Autumn (68), fontisian (129), bhlloy (139), britrock88 (232), DaddyTorgo (233)
2 Coffee Warlord - murra5y (82), PackerFanatic (161)
1 mauchow - Passacaglia (114)

No Vote: Katylied

[Narcizo]

Day Two

21:36 #326 Lathum votes Autumn (1)
21:47 #329 murra5y votes Lathum (1)
22:31 #337 bhlloy votes Lathum (2)
07:30 #356 Chubby votes Coffee (1)
07:54 #360 Coffee votes Bhlloy (1)
08:04 #363 Narcizo votes Bhlloy (2)
09:45 #378 Autumn votes Passacaglia (1)
10:02 #382 Passacaglia votes Katylied (1)

10:41 #386 Bhlloy unvotes Lathum (1)
10:41 #386 Bhlloy votes Mau (1)
12:07 #390 Mau votes Coffee (2)
12:30 #396 Passacaglia unvotes Katylied (0)
13:15 #401 Danny votes Coffee (3)
13:22 #404 murra5y unvotes Lathum (0)
13:22 #404 murra5y votes Coffee (4)
13:30 #408 Packer votes Coffee (5)

13:47 #416 Passacaglia votes mau (2)
14:00 #423 Mau unvotes Coffee (4)
14:00 #423 Mau votes Lathum (1)
14:17 #429 Danny unvotes Coffee (3)
14:17 #429 Danny votes Packer (1)
14:23 #431 Coffee unvotes bhlloy (1)
14:23 #431 Coffee votes murra5y (1)
14:30 #434 Packer unvotes Coffee (2)
14:46 #441 Narcizo unvotes bhlloy (0)
14:46 #441 Narcizo votes murra5y (2)
14:55 #445 murra5y unvotes Coffee (1)
14:55 #445 murra5y votes Lathum (2)

15:10 #447 Packer votes Autumn (2)
15:32 #452 Autumn unvotes Passa (0)
15:32 #452 Autumn votes Mau (3)
15:58 #465 Passa unvotes Mau (2)
15:58 #465 Passa votes Coffee (2)
16:44 #481 fontisian votes Hoops (1)
16:54 #487 Danny unvotes Packer (0)
16:54 #487 Danny votes Coffee (3)
17:23 #496 Packer votes Coffee (4)

17:55 #504 Autumn unvotes Mau (1)
17:55 #504 Autumn votes Hoops (2)
17:58 #505 Danny unvotes Coffee (3)
17:58 #505 Danny votes Hoops (3)
18:43 #518 Katylied votes Lathum (3)
18:51 #523 Zinto votes Hoops (4)
19:26 #528 bhlloy unvotes mau (0)
19:26 #528 bhlloy votes Coffee (4)
19:33 #529 Lathum unvotes Autumn (0)
19:48 #534 Lathum votes Coffee (5)

20:06 #556 Coffee unvotes murra5y (1)
20:06 #556 Coffee votes Packers (1)
20:09 #561 Hoops votes Packers (2)
20:09 #562 Lathum unvotes Coffee (4)
20:09 #562 Lathum votes Packers (3)
20:30 #575 Chubby unvotes Coffee (3)
20:30 #575 Chubby votes Hoops (5)
20:38 #590 Hoops unvotes Packers (2)
20:38 #590 Hoops votes Coffee (4)
20:44 #600 Coffee unvotes Packers (1)
20:44 #600 Coffee votes Lathum (4)
20:47 #604 Lathum unvotes Packers (0)
20:47 #604 Lathum votes Coffee (5)

20:48 #610 Lathum unvotes Coffee (4)
20:48 #610 Lathum votes Hoops (6)
20:49 #612 murra5y unvotes Lathum (3)
20:49 #612 murra5y votes Coffee (5)
20:53 #626 mauchow unvotes Lathum (2)
20:53 #626 mauchow votes Coffee (6)
20:54 #629 Coffee unvotes Lathum (1)
20:54 #629 Coffee votes Hoops (7)
20:59 #647 Lathum unvotes Hoops (6)
20:59 #647 Lathum votes Coffee (7)


Day Two tally:

Coffee Warlord 7 - Passacaglia (465), PackerFanatic (496), bhlloy (528), hoopsguy (590), murra5y (612), mauchow (626), Lathum (647)
hoopsguy 6 - fontisian (481), Autumn (504), Danny (505), Zinto (523), Chubby (575), Coffee Warlord (629)
Lathum 1 - KatyLied (518)
murra5y 1 - Narcizo (441)

[Narcizo]

Day Three

21:26 #732 Danny votes Packers (1)
20:18 #764 murra5y votes Zinto (1)
07:43 #779 Narcizo votes bhlloy (1)
08:20 #787 Autumn votes Packers (2)
09:20 #806 mauchow votes Packers (3)
09:29 #810 Lathum votes bhlloy (2)
10:05 #815 bhlloy votes Zinto (2)

15:29 #865 Packer votes bhlloy (3)
15:33 #869 chubby votes Pass (1)
16:41 #898 Passa votes Packers (4)
17:01 #908 Chubby unvotes Pass (0)
17:01 #908 Chubby votes Lathum (1)
17:19 #918 Hoops votes Bhlloy (4)
17:21 #919 fontisian votes Zinto (3)

20:14 #932 Zinto votes Packers (5)
20:16 #933 fontisian unvotes Zinto (2)
20:16 #933 fontisian votes bhlloy (5)
20:25 #940 Lathum unvotes bhlloy (4)
20:25 #940 Lathum votes Packers (6)
20:58 #983 Katylied votes Packers (7)
20:59 #987 murra5y unvotes zinto (1)
20:59 #987 murra5y votes bhlloy (5)

Day Three Tally:

PackerFanatic 7 - Danny (732), Autumn (787), mauchow (806), Passacaglia (898), Zinto (932), Lathum (940), KatyLied (983)
bhlloy 5 - Narcizo (779), PackerFanatic (865), hoopsguy (918), fontisian (933), murra5y (987)
Zinto 1 - bhlloy (815)
Lathum 1 - Chubby (908)

[Narcizo]

In terms of voting records I think Chubby, fonti, Katy and I have the worst records. Based solely on voting I'd be voting Chubby in an instant - he steered off a Packer vote yesterday and had a throwaway vote today. However I'm getting strong villager vibes from him. Dunno how he plays when he's a wolf - maybe he plays the same but at the moment he's showing just about everything I'd expect from him being a villager.

Day three analysis is difficult until we decide if bhlloy was a wolf or villager. Hopefully the seer scanned bhlloy and if he is a wolf will zap him with the proton gun thingy tonight so I guess we shouldn't look there today. If Bhlloy is a wolf then the wolves are more likely to be on Packer than Bhlloy. If Bhlloy is a villager then a lot of the people who voted Packers you'd expect to vote wolf on wolf (especially against a brutal) but I'm going to give most of them the benefit of the doubt at this stage.

Comparing fontisian and Katy I think I'm going to go with Katy for the time being. With no posts to give any vibes I think she has to stand or fall solely on her voting record, which is pretty bad.

Vote Katy

[Narcizo]

Originally Posted by Narcizo

Wolves ought to have brutaled Hoops and night killed Danny. Unless they knew that Danny wasn't a convertee. Makes no sense that they would risk brutalling the convertee. All of which makes me think that maybe they can scan for convertibles. (Ah-ha).

Ah-ha! Unless they thought Danny was a ghostbuster in which case it makes sense to brutal him. So that was probably it.

[Narcizo]

With Packer putting a second day one vote on Autumn I think it unlikely that Autumn is a starter wolf but he may well be the conversion. But I'd guess prime suspects for conversion is murra5y or me.

I've got trust for Lathum, mauchow, Zinto and Autumn at this stage. Pretty much in that order.

[Narcizo]

With Hoops and Danny gone it's going to fall to Autumn to do all the posting now. Get to it Autumn!

[Chubby]

vote murrrrrrraaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyy

getting a vote in before heading to work

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by Zinto

I go to a little school in Michigan, Saginaw Valley State. It sold me on the super nice campus and the easy scholarships that they offer.

You're in Michigan? Rock on! I'm from Grand Rapids, but I've only been to Saginaw a couple times.

[Lathum]

Vote Chubby
poor voting record, then decides to call out someone else for their play when he has made equally poor decisions. Wolf trying to deflect and cause chaos?

His vote yesterday is really the one that puts it over the top. When we have at least one wolf on the block, and he was around at deadline, he decides to leave his vote in a completely useless spot. IMO you gotta pick a side there unless you are worried your decision will cause you to be scrutinized.

[JAG]

Chubby 1 - Lathum (1062)
KatyLied 1 - Narcizo (1056)
murra5y 1 - Chubby (1062)

[Lathum]

I am ok for weekend play. I will hopefully be in my basement watching lots of college basketball.

[Narcizo]

I pretty sure Lathum-Chubby is a villager-villager spat.

I think it's worth revisiting murra5y being converted. I've kind of been presuming that the convertee becomes a fully fledged member of the wolf team - but that might not be the case. They might be out on an island. If that's the case then I wouldn't be surprised if we're currently 3 wolves + 1 convertee at the moment and 7 villagers to 4 baddies. The ghostbusters are actually more powerful than their usual counterparts in a standard game so I can easily see this being the case.

I thought that it was unlikely a wolf murra5y puts his vote on Bhlloy so near deadline but it would make more sense if he doesn't have contact or, possibly even, knowledge of who the other wolves are. I feel strongly that murra5y could be the converted wolf.

unvote Katy
vote murrayyyyy

[mauchow]

i'll be around this weekend

[mauchow]

I am probably more okay with murrayyy vs chubby. But I don't know between murrayy vs katylied at this point. I've got to jump in the shower real quick and get going to work. I will be taking the afternoon off to watch some basketball so I should be around a bit the whole day again.

[Chubby]

At the bank. I'm fine with weekend play.

I'm sure lathum would have preferred I switched at the last second from a wolf to a villager, ya know, like he did.

Thank goodness you saved slimer lathum, its a giant advantage to us one day later...

[hoopsguy]

I needed to be saved yesterday. Where were my ghostbuster buddies? Waa!

[mauchow]

Slimer was not a wolf!

[Coffee Warlord]

I see your attempts to usurp my post count from beyond the grave, hoops. It shall not be.

[mauchow]

He scans as one but isn't one.

[mauchow]

Eh shit

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Chubby

At the bank. I'm fine with weekend play.

I'm sure lathum would have preferred I switched at the last second from a wolf to a villager, ya know, like he did.

Thank goodness you saved slimer lathum, its a giant advantage to us one day later...

Well at least you would have cast a vote thet was meaningful.

And since we don't know Bhlloy is a wolf or a villager how can you say what you would have switched to, unless you have some kind of insight the rest of us don't.

[Chubby]

Originally Posted by mauchow

Slimer was not a wolf!

I do not currently see where slimer counts for ratio purposes in the rules

[Chubby]

Originally Posted by Lathum

Well at least you would have cast a vote thet was meaningful.

And since we don't know Bhlloy is a wolf or a villager how can you say what you would have switched to, unless you have some kind of insight the rest of us don't.

I knew full well the implications in not moving. I however also know id be painted as a wolf building trust by moving last second. Lose lose situation.

I do have a purpose for everything whether you belive me or not is irrelevant.

[Narcizo]

Originally Posted by JAG

Slimer wins a major victory if it meets its win condition and a minor victory if the Ghostbusters (and citizens) win (ironic I know).

Here, halfway down the rules under victory conditions.

[Autumn]

Originally Posted by Narcizo

Ah-ha! Unless they thought Danny was a ghostbuster in which case it makes sense to brutal him. So that was probably it.

You make a good point though, the wolves must have been very sure Danny was a ghostbuster. I was going to bring that up this morning. I think they figured he was the seer - which I thought might be true too. That was partly why I followed him on PackerFanatic, because he came right out after deadline and voted PF.

Then the bigger question becomes, why Hoopsguy? He had revealed and seemed generally believed, and had the ability to vouch for another villager. But if they believed him they knew he was not a convert. It's a little odd to me that they decided to get rid of him rather than find another wolf. It makes me wonder if perhaps there hasn't been a convert yet - if there was you think they'd be chomping at the bit to get the other and do the summoning thing.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Chubby

I knew full well the implications in not moving. I however also know id be painted as a wolf building trust by moving last second. Lose lose situation.

I do have a purpose for everything whether you belive me or not is irrelevant.

It was obvious long before the deadline who the two candidates were going to be, yet you chose to go in a completely opposite direction.

[Autumn]

Originally Posted by Chubby

I knew full well the implications in not moving. I however also know id be painted as a wolf building trust by moving last second. Lose lose situation.

I do have a purpose for everything whether you belive me or not is irrelevant.

Did you have to move last second? Honest question, I don't know when you were in thread.

[Autumn]

PackerFanatic 3 - Danny (732), Autumn (787), mauchow (806)
bhlloy 3 - Narcizo (779), Lathum (810), PackerFanatic (865)
Zinto 2 - murra5y (764), bhlloy (815)
Passacaglia 1 - Chubby (869)

Looking at this point again. It's notable that bhlloy goes with Zinto, rather than PF. Worth considering still that they may have both been wolves. I hope the seer looks into that. Lathum has the second vote on bhlloy here, but it looks like it was 3-1-1 at that point, so I don't necessarily fault him there. Chubby going with Pass doesn't look great though when we had 3 suspects already on the block.

[Autumn]

Also I still have not seen any response from Katylied about her/his vote. If you're never going to post in the game yo'ure just not helping, certainly not if you're also going to make driveby deadline votes. I hate this sort of thing because it's too late in the game to waste our time lynching villagers for being inactive, yet if they don't defend themselves, we have to.

[Autumn]

Originally Posted by JAG

PackerFanatic 3 - Danny (732), Autumn (787), mauchow (806)
bhlloy 2 - Narcizo (779), Lathum (810)
Zinto 2 - murra5y (764), bhlloy (815)

This was the state when PF voted Bhlloy. So he chose Bhlloy over zinto, despite the fact that bhlloy would presumably move his vote to PF. Zinto hadn't voted, but PF would have at least had a chance Zinto would vote bhlloy instead of him. If Zinto is also a wolf, PF would know that Zinto would follow up with a self defense vote on bhlloy as wel. If Bhlloy and PF were wolves, PF had a fine chance here to go in another direction without being suspicious, so while it's possible he decided to double down and confuse the village, it seems less likely bhlloy is a wolf based on this play.

[Autumn]

Originally Posted by PackerFanatic

I am not expecting to be around much today (darn having to actually work at work...) but I definitely think there are others who have "buried" their votes as much as me that deserve consideration as well (bhlloy and Autumn come to mind right away).

This may also be in bhlloy's favor, unless I'm the villager he threw in, and bhlloy the wolf. Basically if bhlloy was a wolf then he and PF were working hard not to seem connected.

[Autumn]

Okay, so I'm not going to quote all the series of posts and votes that led to the mini-run on PF. But most of the people involved were villagers (CW, Hoops, Danny). So that makes me feel better about Lathum, who didn't need to get involved but did.

However, it's maybe of note that the run happened after this list CW posted, and Danny suggesting that PF was the best pick out of that list (more reasons they thought he was seer?)

Also, Chubby does not look good in this section, frequently saying things like, "So why PF over Hoops?" Or "I don't liek this run on PF."

[Autumn]

Originally Posted by JAG

mauchow 3 - bhlloy (386), Passacaglia (416), Autumn (429)
Autumn 2 - Lathum (326), PackerFanatic (447)
Lathum 2 - mauchow (423), murra5y (445)
murra5y 2 - Coffee Warlord (431), Narcizo (441)
Coffee Warlord 1 - Chubby (356)
PackerFanatic 1 - Danny (429)

No vote: fontisian, hoopsguy, KatyLied, Zinto

CW got one more vote after this, and then PF voted CW. Obviously helps protect himself. But possibly protection for Mauchow, me, Lathum or Murray.

[Autumn]

Originally Posted by Narcizo

As of #435

Coffee Warlord 2 - Chubby (356), murra5y (404)
Autumn 1 - Lathum (326)
mauchow 2 - bhlloy (386), Passacaglia (416)
Passacaglia 1 - Autumn (378)
Lathum 1 - mauchow (423)
Packers 1 - Danny (429)
Murrayyyyy 2 - Coffee (431), Narcizo

Yet to vote: Hoops, fontisan, Zinto, Katylied, Packers

Here PF votes me on day 1 I think this is. Mauchow and Murray are again in the mix. Boy they keep popping up.

[Autumn]

So, based on all that, people I will be considering:

Murray - because PF may have been helping him out, and Murray made a curious last second vote that helps PF.
Mauchow- because PF may have been helping him out (haven't looed at Mau's votes)
Chubby - for staying out of the fray and subtle posts steering away from PF
Katylied - for a last second vote that meant nothing on PF (holding back just in case?) and for not posting.
Zinto - for possible PF/Zinto connection

[Autumn]

For now I think we have to apply a lot of pressure on katylied. That last second vote is very fishy, and we need posts!

vote katylied

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by Autumn

Also I still have not seen any response from Katylied about her/his vote. If you're never going to post in the game yo'ure just not helping, certainly not if you're also going to make driveby deadline votes. I hate this sort of thing because it's too late in the game to waste our time lynching villagers for being inactive, yet if they don't defend themselves, we have to.

Sure, but a D2 vote that way is suspicious. But yeah, maybe it should be Black Friday for KatyLied.

[Autumn]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Sure, but a D2 vote that way is suspicious. But yeah, maybe it should be Black Friday for KatyLied.

No, a D2 vote on someone who's not in the mix is suspicious. I'm trying to talk about someone else here, Pass! Jeez.

[Passacaglia]

I was talking about the vote I put on KatyLied. I did it in the morning, was told she would either be playing, or there would be a replacement, so I took it off. But I still got heat for hiding my vote or some junk.

[murrayyyyy]

Originally Posted by Narcizo

I think it's worth revisiting murra5y being converted.

If I was converted I wouldn't have taken out Hoops last night. He hit his goal of slimming a GB so he had the same power as a vanilla villager for the rest of the game I believe(counted as a villager for the win). I assume there won't be 2 wolves making all the decisions after converting someone. If D1 or D2 voting had hit a wolf the first 2-3 days you are going to tell me that one wolf makes the calls for the entire game? You guys know better than I do if this happens but I think converts would suddenly be added to the IM list.

[Autumn]

It's likely, but who knows. No reason you couldn't be a starting wolf though Murray.

[Autumn]

Thinking some more on this - PF was obviously certain that Danny was the seer and had caught him. So killing the seer by brutal is a great chance, as they don't have to deal with proton packs. That means the wolves might have actually been glad to go with PF, even before it seemed apparent hew as going to be lynched. If they thought Danny was the seer, and might reveal at any time, then they would want to just keep PF as the prime target to keep Danny quiet, and brutal him before he could talk. So I will be looking at the vote with this in mind next.

[Narcizo]

Originally Posted by murrayyyyy

If I was converted I wouldn't have taken out Hoops last night. He hit his goal of slimming a GB so he had the same power as a vanilla villager for the rest of the game I believe(counted as a villager for the win). I assume there won't be 2 wolves making all the decisions after converting someone. If D1 or D2 voting had hit a wolf the first 2-3 days you are going to tell me that one wolf makes the calls for the entire game? You guys know better than I do if this happens but I think converts would suddenly be added to the IM list.

Under my scenario you wouldn't be making any kills. My hypothesis is that you won't have contact with the starting wolves. They'll (presumably) know who you are but you won't necessarily know them.

If you have contact with the starting wolves (ie you are one or you converted into their group) then I don't think you would have made the vote on bhlloy when you did.

I imagine that if Katy is a wolf then Packer would have been bombarding her mailbox telling her to vote him. Which she did late. So I'm tempted to switch back to Katy.

[Autumn]

Originally Posted by bhlloy

Any reason you have to vote for the top two and won't even consider Zinto who is a vote behind with 4+ hours until deadline?

This makes me both feel better about Bhlloy and less good at Passacaglia (whose vote on PF bhlloy was referring to). As bhlloy points out, Pass made it sound like there were only two choices and went with PF. At this point I'm considering his vote, Mauchow's and Zinto's on PF as the most suspicious as I think the wolves would probably have been pushing PF at this point.

[Narcizo]

Originally Posted by Autumn

So, based on all that, people I will be considering:

Murray - because PF may have been helping him out, and Murray made a curious last second vote that helps PF.
Mauchow- because PF may have been helping him out (haven't looed at Mau's votes)
Chubby - for staying out of the fray and subtle posts steering away from PF
Katylied - for a last second vote that meant nothing on PF (holding back just in case?) and for not posting.
Zinto - for possible PF/Zinto connection

Self-defeating question but why am I not on this list Autumn? I'd have thought my voting is bad enough to warrant it.

[Autumn]

Originally Posted by Narcizo

I imagine that if Katy is a wolf then Packer would have been bombarding her mailbox telling her to vote him. Which she did late. So I'm tempted to switch back to Katy.

That is exactly what I imagine also.

[Autumn]

Originally Posted by Narcizo

Self-defeating question but why am I not on this list Autumn? I'd have thought my voting is bad enough to warrant it.

You just never popped up in the things I was looking at. This is based off of going back through all of PF's posts and seeing what they connected to.