The Official March Madness 2007 Thread - Page 22

MrIllini · 03-25-2007, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by MizzouRah

Um.. he can also check like a hockey player, definite basketball skillz baby!

Rebound, block shots, and slam dunk... yes a baby Shaq he is!

...and he's about 80 times better than anything Quinnie ever recruited

INDalltheway · 03-25-2007, 06:06 PM

This game is shaping up quickly..

MizzouRah · 03-25-2007, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by MrIllini

...and he's about 80 times better than anything Quinnie ever recruited

No arguments there.

Fouts · 03-25-2007, 06:12 PM

Wow, Georgetown is playing them tough. Tie game with :30 to go.

st.cronin · 03-25-2007, 06:14 PM

Not only have these games been close, it seems to me the quality of play is much better than in recent years. I think part of that is the new NBA rule.

Atocep · 03-25-2007, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by MizzouRah

Um.. he can also check like a hockey player, definite basketball skillz baby!

Rebound, block shots, and slam dunk... yes a baby Shaq he is!

Oden has also played most of the year with his off hand. Oden will be the better NBA player. There's a guy with Durant's skill set in every draft, guys with Oden's size and skills are rare.

st.cronin · 03-25-2007, 06:15 PM

Why try a 3-pointer there? That makes no sense.

MrIllini · 03-25-2007, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Atocep

Oden has also played most of the year with his off hand. Oden will be the better NBA player. There's a guy with Durant's skill set in every draft, guys with Oden's size and skills are rare.

PLUS...Oden is already 32, so he's got experience

Fouts · 03-25-2007, 06:22 PM

Rebounds and ball control, something USC couldn't do in the second half last week. Looks like GT might take this.

Fouts · 03-25-2007, 06:23 PM

And by last week, I mean Friday.

Young Drachma · 03-25-2007, 06:24 PM

How 'bout them Hoyas.

INDalltheway · 03-25-2007, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by MrIllini

PLUS...Oden is already 32, so he's got experience

I'm a Purdue fan and I'm glad Eric Gordon isn't going to Illinois..

Rizon · 03-25-2007, 06:27 PM

Daivd himself couldn't have programmed a collapse at the end such as UNC's.

Young Drachma · 03-25-2007, 06:27 PM

Yeah, that ACC..quite a conference. Yeah, most certainly the toughest in America.

Oops.

MrIllini · 03-25-2007, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

What happened to Hansbraugh's mouth?

more importantly, what happened to UNC's basketball skills???

way to coach em up Roy

HerRealName · 03-25-2007, 06:29 PM

Crap, I didn't want any part of Georgetown on Saturday after the beating they gave OSU last year. Once Georgetown went to the match up zone, UNC got nothing down the stretch.

Groundhog · 03-25-2007, 06:29 PM

So, I guess UCLA and Georgetown are both our final 4 underdogs! Good to see some small schools stick it to the big boys!

Lathum · 03-25-2007, 06:29 PM

So are we allowed to say the ACC is over rated now?

MrIllini · 03-25-2007, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by INDalltheway

I'm a Purdue fan and I'm glad Eric Gordon isn't going to Illinois..

I'm sorry, did you mistake me for someone who gives a shit?

molson · 03-25-2007, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Groundhog

So, I guess UCLA and Georgetown are both our final 4 underdogs! Good to see some small schools stick it to the big boys!

If you want to get technical, Georgetown is a much smaller school than many recent "Cinderellas".

INDalltheway · 03-25-2007, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by MrIllini

I'm sorry, did you mistake me for someone who gives a shit?

Must have Mr. Hardass...

MrIllini · 03-25-2007, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by INDalltheway

Must have Mr. Hardass...

I hope Lowery doesn't steal all of the recruits from Weber and Painter when he takes the scUM job

Dr. Sak · 03-25-2007, 06:47 PM

My bracket rocks! I had 7 of 8 final 8's correct (missed Texas A&M) and I have all the final four teams.

Groundhog · 03-25-2007, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by molson

If you want to get technical, Georgetown is a much smaller school than many recent "Cinderellas".

True. But they have a history quite unlike those cinderellas. Still, it's been awhile I guess.

INDalltheway · 03-25-2007, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by MrIllini

I hope Lowery doesn't steal all of the recruits from Weber and Painter when he takes the scUM job

No doubt.. I have some faith in Painter since he's bringing in a pretty good class next year. Hoping he can continue that and see where we get.

MizzouRah · 03-25-2007, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Atocep

Oden has also played most of the year with his off hand. Oden will be the better NBA player. There's a guy with Durant's skill set in every draft, guys with Oden's size and skills are rare.

Are you nuts? Durant will be the better player, THAT you can count on. Oden won't be able to shove NBA players around.

MizzouRah · 03-25-2007, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by MrIllini

I hope Lowery doesn't steal all of the recruits from Weber and Painter when he takes the scUM job

Wait a minute, Weber can recruit?

sterlingice · 03-25-2007, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by HerRealName

Was there a Newfoundland Regional this year

I just had to give this credit because the idea of a regional in Newfoundland strikes me as quite funny.

SI

hoopsguy · 03-25-2007, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by MizzouRah

Wait a minute, Weber can recruit?

Certainly a fair question. What is unquestioned is his ability to beat Mizzou.

MizzouRah · 03-25-2007, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Certainly a fair question. What is unquestioned is his ability to beat Mizzou.

That's valid, but give Anderson some time, afterall he didn't inherit what Weber did.

Warhammer · 03-25-2007, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBug708

Well I'm sober for one, so that's a head start on you...

But Memphis didnt make one adjustment from the first time they played to the second time they played. Ben Howland ended up exploited every part of Memphis in the Elite 8 matchup

Good lord, did you actually watch the game? Memphis was 0-14 on 3-pointers, and missed like 15 layups that game. Memphis was getting good looks last year, they didn't fall.

This year, they were just plain outmatched.

Groundhog · 03-25-2007, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by MizzouRah

Are you nuts? Durant will be the better player, THAT you can count on. Oden won't be able to shove NBA players around.

Oden has a combination of strength and speed that is pretty unique amongst bigs, and it's those two traits that usually seperate the good bigs from the mediocre. I'm sure it'll take a season or two, but I fully expect Oden to be a very solid NBA player.

As for Durant, no doubt he'll be a very good player, but I consider it less likely that he'll wind up being the kind of guy you can build a team around. He's less of a risk to be sure, but who would you prefer on your team; Tim Duncan or Mello? There's no garauntee that either player will reach the heights of those two players, but there's a fair chance that both will come close, and I'd take Duncan anyday of the week.

MizzouRah · 03-25-2007, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Groundhog

Oden has a combination of strength and speed that is pretty unique amongst bigs, and it's those two traits that usually seperate the good bigs from the mediocre. I'm sure it'll take a season or two, but I fully expect Oden to be a very solid NBA player.

As for Durant, no doubt he'll be a very good player, but I consider it less likely that he'll wind up being the kind of guy you can build a team around. He's less of a risk to be sure, but who would you prefer on your team; Tim Duncan or Mello? There's no garauntee that either player will reach the heights of those two players, but there's a fair chance that both will come close, and I'd take Duncan anyday of the week.

I'm no NBA guru by any means, in fact I can't stand the NBA. That being said, you might be right, but I'd take Durant on my college team before Oden anyday of the week. I do think Durant will make a bigger impact than Oden right off the bat in the NBA though. If Oden stays another year, that would only help him, imo.

MalcPow · 03-25-2007, 10:34 PM

Just got back from UNC-Gtown, still don't really know how we won that game. It seemed like the Tarheels had an answer every time we made a run, but we stuck around, and found a way to tie it up at the end. The overtime was just a deflated UNC team that started chucking bad jumpers when they got down. Incredible game as a fan though, one of those ones where you dip into a little bit of despair and then your team finds a way to make you believe again.

Great game though, and UNC is a great team. Hopefully they don't lose a bunch of guys, they're fun to watch.

MrBug708 · 03-25-2007, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Warhammer

Good lord, did you actually watch the game? Memphis was 0-14 on 3-pointers, and missed like 15 layups that game. Memphis was getting good looks last year, they didn't fall.

This year, they were just plain outmatched.

It's ok, I can live with that. UCLA is lucky that most teams shoot so terrible against them....Imagine if they were a halfway decent team...

Groundhog · 03-25-2007, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by MizzouRah

I'm no NBA guru by any means, in fact I can't stand the NBA. That being said, you might be right, but I'd take Durant on my college team before Oden anyday of the week. I do think Durant will make a bigger impact than Oden right off the bat in the NBA though. If Oden stays another year, that would only help him, imo.

It's a tough call IMO. Skill-wise, no question that Durant tops Oden, but man, Oden's presence is hard to formulate. When he's in the game he opens it up for everybody else in a way that Durant, as good as he is, doesn't. Having said that, if I'm a college coach I'd still take Durant, but I think it's much closer than their stats dictate.

Groundhog · 03-25-2007, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBug708

It's ok, I can live with that. UCLA just is lucky that most teams shoot so terrible against them....

You have to give their D some credit. I've only seen them play once this season - their Sweet 16 win over Pitt - but, assuming that game was business as usual for them, they pressure teams all game and throw them out of their offensive rhythm. They have strong defenders at guard and on the wings, and don't give up very much in the half-court set, though they struggled a little with their transition D. They also did a pretty tremendous job on Gray in the post, doubling him immediately after about 10 mins in and forcing him in to some bad passes. As long as they can also put points on the board, which seems to be the problem for this Bruins team when Afflalo isn't knocking them down, then UCLA don't need much luck.

Still, I think Florida will have too much firepower for UCLA. The dual-post threats for the Gators will be too tough to lock down on, and will probably lead to that bloody Lee Humphrey getting way too many good looks.

If they do make it through however, I'll be putting my money on UCLA over either Ohio State or Georgetown.

Crim · 03-25-2007, 11:44 PM

Re: UNC meltdown...

I'm not sure I've ever seen anything like that. Seemed like they scored about 4 points in the last 10 minutes of regulation, and gave up, what, 14 straight in the first 4+ minutes of OT? Credit to the Hoya D, certainly, but it looked to me like the Heels turned JV alluvasudden. Drives were stolen, jumpers were short, the defense was sloppy, wow. I think maybe they packed their bags for Atlanta after playing 30 minutes, and got flat out embarassed.

Radii · 03-26-2007, 01:09 AM

UNC was average in a half court set most of the season. Georgetown was able to stop them from running and played great D and UNC didn't have an answer. Its hard to be upset about an elite 8 appearance, but the run *really* shouldn't have ended there. Kudos to Georgetown.

Radii · 03-26-2007, 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

So are we allowed to say the ACC is over rated now?

Only one team was higher than a 4 seed in the NCAA tournament in the conference. Going into the season the ACC was supposed to be UNC, Duke, and everyone else. It turned into UNC and everyone else, except UNC had virtually no upperclass leadership and was prone to upsets so really didn't pull away like they could have given their talent level. They struggled a ton in games where they had to play half court offense, and struggled even more in close games.

Given that in its best years the ACC has 3 teams competing for 1 seeds, and most years there are 3 teams seeded 3 or better, I thikn its fair to say the ACC as a whole has been completely underwhelming the entire season.

SackAttack · 03-26-2007, 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Groundhog

You have to give their D some credit.

I don't think you entirely recognize to whom you're responding, there.

MrBug708 · 03-26-2007, 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by SackAttack

I don't think you entirely recognize to whom you're responding, there.

I'll kick your trojan ass Sack

sooner333 · 03-26-2007, 02:38 AM

On the rumor mill: Heath out at Arkansas and Gillespie will be hired this week. Not sure the validity on it, but the Hog and Aggie boards are buzzing.

albionmoonlight · 03-26-2007, 05:49 AM

The ACC sold its basketball soul in order to make a football motivated expansion. It is reaping what it sowed.

MrIllini · 03-26-2007, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by MizzouRah

That's valid, but give Anderson some time, afterall he didn't inherit what Weber did.

That hasn't seemed to matter.

MrIllini · 03-26-2007, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by sooner333

On the rumor mill: Heath out at Arkansas and Gillespie will be hired this week. Not sure the validity on it, but the Hog and Aggie boards are buzzing.

Doesn't seem to make much sense for Gillespie to take that job...I'd more believe rumors that had him at UK

MizzouRah · 03-26-2007, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by MrIllini

That hasn't seemed to matter.

What hasn't seemed to matter? In no way are you talking about this season are you? That Mizzou roster sucks and Anderson did much better than I expected him to. Weber on the other hand came into a great team and yes they made the dance this year, but who does he have coming in to bring this team back to greatness?

I like Weber, but for some reason he's not getting the recruits.

MrIllini · 03-26-2007, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by MizzouRah

What hasn't seemed to matter? In no way are you talking about this season are you? That Mizzou roster sucks and Anderson did much better than I expected him to. Weber on the other hand came into a great team and yes they made the dance this year, but who does he have coming in to bring this team back to greatness?

I like Weber, but for some reason he's not getting the recruits.

Um, they won 20 games this year in less-than-desirable circumstances. Agreed, not '04-esque in any manner, but it's hard to argue against Weber's track record, IMO. 'Course, I'm in the minority and most every other Illini fan wants his head, so who knows.

MrIllini · 03-26-2007, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by MizzouRah

I like Weber, but for some reason he's not getting the recruits.

dola

btw, this is patently untrue

everyone is piling on because of the Gordon fiasco, but Bruce actually has a fairly good class coming in. I think expectations of top 5 classes every season following the title game run were unreasonable...

MizzouRah · 03-26-2007, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by MrIllini

dola

btw, this is patently untrue

everyone is piling on because of the Gordon fiasco, but Bruce actually has a fairly good class coming in. I think expectations of top 5 classes every season following the title game run were unreasonable...

I hope so, I do like Illinios and SIU - except when they play us of course.

03-25-2007, 06:14 PM	#1055
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03-25-2007, 06:15 PM	#1057
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	Why try a 3-pointer there? That makes no sense. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

03-25-2007, 06:24 PM	#1061
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03-25-2007, 06:29 PM	#1067
Groundhog Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia	So, I guess UCLA and Georgetown are both our final 4 underdogs! Good to see some small schools stick it to the big boys! __________________ Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. --Ambrose Bierce

03-25-2007, 06:06 PM	#1052
INDalltheway College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Chicago	This game is shaping up quickly..

03-25-2007, 06:12 PM	#1054
Fouts College Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: California	Wow, Georgetown is playing them tough. Tie game with :30 to go.

03-25-2007, 06:22 PM	#1059
Fouts College Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: California	Rebounds and ball control, something USC couldn't do in the second half last week. Looks like GT might take this.

03-25-2007, 06:23 PM	#1060
Fouts College Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: California	And by last week, I mean Friday.

03-25-2007, 06:27 PM	#1064
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	Yeah, that ACC..quite a conference. Yeah, most certainly the toughest in America. Oops.

03-25-2007, 06:29 PM	#1066
HerRealName College Prospect Join Date: Dec 2002	Crap, I didn't want any part of Georgetown on Saturday after the beating they gave OSU last year. Once Georgetown went to the match up zone, UNC got nothing down the stretch.

03-25-2007, 06:29 PM	#1068
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	So are we allowed to say the ACC is over rated now?

03-25-2007, 06:47 PM	#1073
Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	My bracket rocks! I had 7 of 8 final 8's correct (missed Texas A&M) and I have all the final four teams.

03-25-2007, 10:34 PM	#1084
MalcPow College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: San Diego	Just got back from UNC-Gtown, still don't really know how we won that game. It seemed like the Tarheels had an answer every time we made a run, but we stuck around, and found a way to tie it up at the end. The overtime was just a deflated UNC team that started chucking bad jumpers when they got down. Incredible game as a fan though, one of those ones where you dip into a little bit of despair and then your team finds a way to make you believe again. Great game though, and UNC is a great team. Hopefully they don't lose a bunch of guys, they're fun to watch.

03-26-2007, 01:09 AM	#1089
Radii Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	UNC was average in a half court set most of the season. Georgetown was able to stop them from running and played great D and UNC didn't have an answer. Its hard to be upset about an elite 8 appearance, but the run really shouldn't have ended there. Kudos to Georgetown.

03-26-2007, 02:38 AM	#1093
sooner333 College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Norman, OK	On the rumor mill: Heath out at Arkansas and Gillespie will be hired this week. Not sure the validity on it, but the Hog and Aggie boards are buzzing.

03-26-2007, 05:49 AM	#1094
albionmoonlight Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Carolina	The ACC sold its basketball soul in order to make a football motivated expansion. It is reaping what it sowed.

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