Official 2023 College Football Thread

[miami_fan]

No disrespect to Brad Nessler but given this is the last Iron Bowl on CBS, I really wish they have brought back Verne Lundquist to the mic if the game was going to end like this.

[Ghost Econ]

Originally Posted by GrantDawg

Make Milroe run there. Flush him and get him down before the goal line. Instead you give him all the time in the world to find the guy in the end-zone.

Also, they was a really good throw. Like pinpoint placement. If he can figure out timing routes, that kid may actually have a future as a full QB.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by GrantDawg

Make Milroe run there. Flush him and get him down before the goal line. Instead you give him all the time in the world to find the guy in the end-zone.

Yeah, Aubie did what they could not do

[JPhillips]

They only rushed two. The CB was twenty yards deep. The safety was 30 yeards deep.

And somehow the WR still got behind everybody.

[Ksyrup]

The safety bit on an inside receiver but then left him when he saw he was covered and sat in no man's land between the insider receiver and the guy who caught it in the end zone so it ended up being 1-on-1.

[Thomkal]

Coastal Carolina had a chance to capture the Sun Belt East today at home against James Madison. Win and they move on to the Sun Belt title game. Instead they showed they were not up to the task, losing 56-14. QB #1 McCall did not play again so he must still be recovering from his injuries. It would be a shame if he was not able to play in Coastal's Bowl game and end his career on a sour note.

[Atocep]

WVU and Baylor have about 6 minutes left in the 2nd quarter. WVU has 306 yards of offense. Baylor has 28 yards and hasn't touched the ball since the 3:34 mark in the first. Zero turnovers for either team.

20-14 WVU right now

[JonInMiddleGA]

I really can't defend the decision to kick a field goal there.

I'm not a Key-believer, good opportunity for him to prove me wrong so we shall see.

[miami_fan]

Looks like someone told Key to be more aggressive.

[JPhillips]

OSU might have lots of problems next year. They could lose nine starters on defense, the TE, top 3 WR, and RB. Day has gone all in this year and there aren't a lot of experienced backups ready to step in.

[miami_fan]

What is the rule for when the officials are supposed to blow a play dead? I thought it is supposed to be when the ball carrier's forward motion but I feel like the refs are allowing a lot of pileups that are seemed to be stopped to continue almost with the hope that the ball carrier breaks free.

[albionmoonlight]

#34 for K-State rumbling through the snow while tacklers bounce off him is kind of the Platonic ideal of football.

[JonInMiddleGA]

I almost can't entirely blame the players for the abysmal state of the GT defense.

I mean, some of these players spent 2+ years with no discernible coaching (under the now-dismissed Thacker), that has to limit your ceiling.

[Ksyrup]

Can 2 players be thrown out for targeting on the same play?

[GrantDawg]

Gators going to Gator. Had to get the cheap shot in, and it looks like it will cost them the game.

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[Ksyrup]

That follows one of the DLs getting tossed earlier for spitting in an FSU player's face.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Stoops to A&M?

I mean, on the one hand, he's done a good job with not much.
On the other hand, is his ceiling any higher than Jimbo's?

[GrantDawg]

It will be interesting to see what he can do with real resources.

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[Atocep]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Stoops to A&M?

I mean, on the one hand, he's done a good job with not much.
On the other hand, is his ceiling any higher than Jimbo's?

I think the ultimate ceiling is probably higher than with Jimbo but the floor is lower too. Jimbo at this stage is a good recruiter, decent coach, and a difficult guy to work for that hasn't done a good job making or maintaining the connections needed to keep or hire a solid pool of assistants.

[Ksyrup]

The timing makes sense. Things have been getting a bit stale here as UK has not been able to play with the big boys. But he's such a Midwestern guy that Texas seems like a weird fit. I guess with resources and the right coaches/recruiters, he can be a good CEO.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by Atocep

I think the ultimate ceiling is probably higher than with Jimbo but the floor is lower too. Jimbo at this stage is a good recruiter, decent coach, and a difficult guy to work for that hasn't done a good job making or maintaining the connections needed to keep or hire a solid pool of assistants.

A phrase I saw earlier kinda feels like a major problem, something about "an offense that's felt like it was in decline over most of the past few years"

[Ksyrup]

The Athletic article described his offense as already outdated when Jameis was running it.

[Atocep]

There's a Kentucky alum and former assistant that I couldn't recommend enough as Stoops replacement.

He's an air raid guy, big on culture, and he would be coming home.

[GrantDawg]

There are already counter reports he is staying at Kentucky. I wouldn't be surprised if he does. He might bitch about not have the NIL money of other teams, but he has one of the cushiest jobs in college football. He could win 7 games a year and still get regular raises.

Edit: Yup. Looking confirmed he has pulled out.

[Ksyrup]

Looks like it. I just didn't understand the fit. Timing, yes. I wonder if beating Louisville factored in. Ending the season on a 5 game losing streak and major grumblings versus 7-5 and a win over a top 10 rival. Maybe he was already planning an exit but the win made it complicated and UK came up with some more years/money to keep him.

Or, his agent played the media pretty well...

[Ksyrup]

Stoops statement "... I knew in my heart I couldn't leave the University of Kentucky right now."

Also made sure to confirm he was contacted about a job opening this weekend.

Interesting statement.

[GrantDawg]

From a reporter on Twitter:
Every Coach: Yes Mr Aggie, I’m very interested in your job opening

Texas A&M: We won’t be offering anymore $76 million buyouts.

Every Coach: Bye Felicia

I’ve confirmed this conversation with 2 sources

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[Swaggs]

Houston fires Dana Holgorsen.

Iowa needs to make him their offensive coordinator immediately. He’s from Iowa, too lazy to manage an entire program, but a brilliant offensive mind. Make it so.

[tarcone]

Originally Posted by Swaggs

Houston fires Dana Holgorsen.

Iowa needs to make him their offensive coordinator immediately. He’s from Iowa, too lazy to manage an entire program, but a brilliant offensive mind. Make it so.

Im getting the feeling the fan base wants the HC in waiting as the next OC

[bronconick]

Indiana fires Tom Allen with a $20.8 million buyout. If they had waited for 2024 in what, 40 days?, it would have been $8 million.

[Ksyrup]

Yeah but you're throwing away the recruiting class this year, encouraging transfers jumping from a sinking ship, and waiting really long to assemble a staff.

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by Swaggs

Houston fires Dana Holgorsen.

Iowa needs to make him their offensive coordinator immediately. He’s from Iowa, too lazy to manage an entire program, but a brilliant offensive mind. Make it so.

Ferentz and Dana together would absolutely require a college Hard Knocks show.

[JPhillips]

Originally Posted by Ksyrup

Yeah but you're throwing away the recruiting class this year, encouraging transfers jumping from a sinking ship, and waiting really long to assemble a staff.

But in this era would the 12 mil spent on players lead to a better outcome?

[GrantDawg]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

But in this era would the 12 mil spent on players lead to a better outcome?

With signing day three weeks away? No. You are playing catch up if you wait till next year, and the best players are gone. Who are you paying?

[JPhillips]

Transfer portal

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by GrantDawg

Who are you paying?

Transfers.

It's the #50 class in the country, nothing above a 3*, only 3 of the 19 commits are in the top 50 at their position. And of those 3, only 1 of them had any other P5 offer.

Not sure how much they'd be risking frankly.

[Atocep]

Signing day isn't that big of a deal for a lot of the mid to lower tier P4/5 schools anymore. The transfer portal is a better bet and it's actually easier to go head to head with the bigger schools for guys that want to play right away and are burning their free transfer.

[GrantDawg]

Your still picking from parts. You may not be competing with upper tier teams for players, but you are competing with the mid-tier for the players willing to play at that level. Having to put that together after all the other teams have gotten their first choice is a pretty big handicap.

[JPhillips]

This from ESPN makes the buyout make sense for both parties.

In announcing Allen's dismissal, the school said it had agreed to a $15.5 million settlement with the coach that will be paid over two installments.

Allen will receive one $7.75 million payment this year and another in 2024, an Indiana spokesman told ESPN. The amount will not be offset by future earnings, a source told ESPN, as his original buyout would have been.

[GrantDawg]

Mike Elko is next up for the Texas A&M gig. He had already shut down discussion earlier this week, so they must have came at him with a bigger bag.

[Ksyrup]

Elko turned down Michigan State, he wasn't offered A&M earlier this week. I assume he doesn't consider A&M to be a similar job to MSU.

[miami_fan]

Computers pick UNLV, Boise St. for Mountain West title game - ESPN

UNLV will host Boise State in the Mountain West championship game Saturday, the conference announced Sunday.

The Rebels and Broncos finished tied with San José State at 6-2 in conference play. Because UNLV and Boise State did not play each other during the regular season, the three-way tie was broken by an average of four computer rankings: Anderson & Hester, Colley Matrix, Massey and Wolfe.

Come on guys, don't hide behind the computers. We know you wanted BSU and UNLV in the title game.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Miss State hires Lebby, the guy Miami should have hired

[Kodos]

Loved Tom Allen as a person, but he had to go. Hopefully Mark Cuban can help IU grab a proven winner. So tired of losing and always knowing we’re going to lose.

[GrantDawg]

Did you see the rumor is Jon Gruden?

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[Kodos]

Yeah, I saw that. It got debunked pretty quickly. I sure hope it is not him. There's buzz about Tom Herman, but with IU football, I'll believe it when I see it. (Ironically, before his scandal, I would have been all aboard with him being the HC.)

[Kodos]

There are also rumors of Antwaan Randle El, who has done a good job with the receivers for the Lions. However, he's never been a head coach. I do love ARE, and it'd be nice to have a guy who might not jump ship if he were to have somehow miraculously have success at IU.

[Kodos]

I guess in my ideal world, we would get a name head coach with Randle El as OC. Then Randle El could take over the program when the head coach inevitably moved on. And while I'm making silly wishes, I'd love to have Tom Allen back as DC. That's where he really shined. (I realize that would never happen.)

Oh, and Jennifer Lawrence could date our tight end so I could see her during our broadcasts.

[RainMaker]

With the massive media deals the Big 10 have, they should be able to pull in a semi-decent name.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Best line I've seen so far "Transfer portal news is starting to feel like watching the Tinder app"