NFL 2016 Head Coaching and Offseason Stuff

[CU Tiger]

I suspect the eventual outcome of this is much worse though. Next labor contract, I fully expect a full lost season.

With the NFL making more than MLB and NBA combined, and the players being the lowest paid of the three... The climate around concussions and "what they knew".... The heavy handed omniscient GOoDell....and the (assumptive) lack of of the union head being either on the take or totally incompetent for the first time in decades... this next round of negotiations will be brutal and bloody. I'm not convinced that 1 strike season is even doubtful at this juncture.

And I wouldn't be shocked to see Brady in that role (players union rep) in the future.

[Suicane75]

And President Trump, in the longest con of all, finally gets his USFL.

[JPhillips]

Originally Posted by BishopMVP

The theory's always been that it was initiated by people with a personal, not professional, vendetta against Belichick and the Pats. Mike Kensil specifically was one of the people at the Jets when Belichick wrote I quit on a napkin and bounced to New England. Then once that false info was leaked and the narrative developed Goodell cowtowed to the owners (which, to be fair, is what they pay him for) regardless of what the facts were.

And now people who would be apoplectic if this was their team, and appalled if this was the evidence in any court case, are not just accepting of Goodell's actions but actually gleeful it happened I guess because the fanbase is arrogant? And they perceive the Patriots as cheaters, even though outside of Spygate (for which we received the largest punishment in NFL history) there is zero hard evidence the Patriots actually push boundaries any more than the average NFL team. So yeah, SHURG it is, because apparently most people are incapable of disliking the Patriots or their fans while still acknowledging that this has been a witch-hunt from day 1 and a complete joke on Goodell's part, if the goal really was to find the truth. Which it clearly hasn't been.

As far as the punishment I've never cared about the Brady stuff compared to the draft picks, and barring injury the timeline doesn't work for Jimmy G replacing him, but hopefully he does well in his audition so we can get more draft capital when we likely trade him next spring.

As a Bengals fan, I could spend every season bitching about how the NFL favors the Steelers. It is what it is.

You win more than anyone else. Why isn't that enough for you?

[Radii]

Originally Posted by BishopMVP

So yeah, SHURG it is, because apparently most people are incapable of disliking the Patriots or their fans while still acknowledging that this has been a witch-hunt from day 1 and a complete joke on Goodell's part, if the goal really was to find the truth. Which it clearly hasn't been.

My issue is specifically with SirFozzie completely ignoring everything written about how the witch-hunt is related to spygate and how Gooddell fucked it up and how other owners were specifically looking for a "make-up call" for Spygate and instead changing the narrative to "the pats have won too long so this is what happens".


I'm no fan of Goodell or how the NFL has done pretty much anything from the disciplinary side of things in the past decade.

I'm taking issue specifically with one person's interpretation that, to me, is laughable. Not intending to be anything more behind it than that.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by CU Tiger

And I wouldn't be shocked to see Brady in that role (players union rep) in the future.

Well, that'd be one way to put the fans in the corner of the owners.

[Julio Riddols]

So LeVeon Bell could be suspended 4 games and Ezekiel Elliott might be beating his GF... Speculation on both for now, but one story obviously much bigger than the other if allegations of domestic abuse do arise.

[stevew]

bell is dumb and it was leaked a month ago that he missed a test. Elliot thing sounds like BS, but I'm sure they'll look into it more.

[Julio Riddols]

Yeah, reading into it, it seems 4 witnesses do not want to go along with the GF's story on Elliott. One of them apparently was in the car at the time of the alleged attack.

[Logan]

Josh Gordon reinstated on a conditional basis. He's suspended first 4 games.

I'll give it until 8/28 until he is kicked out again.

[cartman]

The Rams granted Nick Foles his release, so he is a free agent now

[cartman]

In other QB news, it sounds like the Jets and Fitzpatrick finally reached a deal.

[Thomkal]

Originally Posted by cartman

In other QB news, it sounds like the Jets and Fitzpatrick finally reached a deal.

He's lucky to be in position for a starting job after that debacle in the last game of the year. He was trying for a 3 year deal which just seemed silly given that game. Maybe he can prove that he can do the job with this deal and if not the Jets won't lose any sleep over a one year deal.

[Logan]

Originally Posted by Thomkal

He's lucky to be in position for a starting job after that debacle in the last game of the year. He was trying for a 3 year deal which just seemed silly given that game. Maybe he can prove that he can do the job with this deal and if not the Jets won't lose any sleep over a one year deal.

I don't think he was trying for a three year deal as much as he was trying for more guaranteed money, which the Jets couldn't afford without stretching it into more years. They offered him 1 year, 2 year, and 3 year contracts as of like a month ago.

[Vince, Pt. II]

Foles to the 49ers seems like a foregone conclusion, and while I'm fairly certain he's better than either Kaepernick or Gannett, I still don't want him.

[lungs]

Originally Posted by Vince, Pt. II

Foles to the 49ers seems like a foregone conclusion, and while I'm fairly certain he's better than either Kaepernick or Gannett, I still don't want him.

I'd love Dallas to pick up Foles for when Tony Romo inevitably gets injured.

Kellen Moore does not inspire confidence.

[BishopMVP]

Originally Posted by Thomkal

He's lucky to be in position for a starting job after that debacle in the last game of the year. He was trying for a 3 year deal which just seemed silly given that game. Maybe he can prove that he can do the job with this deal and if not the Jets won't lose any sleep over a one year deal.

He's a below average starting NFL QB, but still light years better than the Jets other options despite the fact they've picked 7 QB's in the last 9 drafts. (unless you're a believer in Geno Smith!) I really like Todd Bowles, but until they figure that out the ceiling's only so high.

I also think there's a decent chance he just wanted to enjoy some downtime since he could. Everyone thought this offer would still be on the table until training camp officially started, and as soon as they put a deadline on it he showed up and signed it.

[MacroGuru]

Originally Posted by BishopMVP

He's a below average starting NFL QB, but still light years better than the Jets other options despite the fact they've picked 7 QB's in the last 9 drafts. (unless you're a believer in Geno Smith!) I really like Todd Bowles, but until they figure that out the ceiling's only so high.

I also think there's a decent chance he just wanted to enjoy some downtime since he could. Everyone thought this offer would still be on the table until training camp officially started, and as soon as they put a deadline on it he showed up and signed it.

Im actually surprised he didn't hang it up. He has more than enough $$, the Ivy League education and I know he has several businesses making him $$. He was talking about being done when he was with the Bills.

[thesloppy]

I gotta say, as a Lions fan my standards are obviously pretty low and it's way too early to do anything other than look at the team on paper, but I've been pretty impressed what young, rookie GM Bob Quinn has done this offseason. He went heavy on the trenches in the draft, which the Lions haven't done in many years, bought in some safeties to help the back end problems, and though I certainly wasn't happy about the thought of going into 2016 without Calvin Johnson, signing Marvin Jones and just recently Anquan Boldin is about the best recovery you could expect (and makes a decent WR core, with Golden Tate), considering the circumstances.

[Julio Riddols]

Jones/Boldin is a nice interchange opposite Tate. Boldin is slow but he can still move the chains, Jones is a legit deep threat, and Tate is probably aching to be the top dog again after what he did in 2014. The Lions might have actually improved the passing game despite Johnson leaving.

[NobodyHere]

It looks like Andrew Luck is going to stink this year.

Matt Hasselbeck on Andrew Luck: “He takes pride in not showering� - Stampede Blue

[cartman]

Gives a whole new meaning to him saying "Luck is in the air"

[Abe Sargent]

Well, I like my team better this year than in a looooooooooooooong time. Lots of losing years recently, but I just feel, for the first time, like we have something special about to happen.

Go JAGS!

[Kodos]

NFL investigation on PEDs clears Peyton Manning - Denver Broncos Blog- ESPN

[flere-imsaho]

I just love this headline: Jaguars running back Denard Robinson addresses how car ended up in pond | Sport | The Guardian

[cartman]

Originally Posted by cartman

Rolando McClain gets a 10 game suspension for violating the substance abuse policy.

Apparently he was getting his purple drank on, and that is what led to the suspension.

[Thomkal]

My beloved Cards give "honey badger" a 5 year extension, 62 million. Cards are clearly taking a risk here-he's not been able to get through a full season without a serious injury (both knees), but when he is on the field, he's clearly one of the best at the position, and he's become a leader off and on the field. Quite the success story from his college days when he fell all the way to the 3rd round.

Tyrann Mathieu, Cardinals agree to 5-year extension - NFL.com

[Thomkal]

Oh and Dallas backup Kellen Moore breaks his ankle:

Kellen Moore breaks ankle, will have surgery Wednesday - NFL.com

[Kodos]

Tom Jackson announces retirement from ESPN

Rats. Jackson is one of my favorite NFL analysts.

[BishopMVP]

Originally Posted by Thomkal

Oh and Dallas backup Kellen Moore breaks his ankle:

Kellen Moore breaks ankle, will have surgery Wednesday - NFL.com

Get Kyle Orton on the phone!

[Julio Riddols]

William Jackson III out for the year with a ripped titty. LAME... Thankfully he wasn't going to be a major player this year more than likely. I just hope Andrew Billings, Tyler Boyd and Nick Vigil stay healthy.

[NobodyHere]

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/...BOn?li=BBnba9I

I'm shocked, shocked I tell ya, ok not all that shocked.

[Butter]

Originally Posted by Julio Riddols

William Jackson III out for the year with a ripped titty. LAME... Thankfully he wasn't going to be a major player this year more than likely. I just hope Andrew Billings, Tyler Boyd and Nick Vigil stay healthy.

They sounded like they thought he could be a nickel this year at least. Makes it somewhat important to re-sign Leon Hall now.

[Julio Riddols]

Originally Posted by Butter_of_69

They sounded like they thought he could be a nickel this year at least. Makes it somewhat important to re-sign Leon Hall now.

Maybe. They still have Shaw, Dennard and Jones.. Kirkpatrick I'm not a big fan of, but those 3 should be on the field.. (Dennard needs to stay healthy of course)

Hall is gonna be Chris Crocker for a couple years I think.

[NobodyHere]

Preseason starts tonight, which means we're one step closer to the regular season!

[mckerney]

Originally Posted by NobodyHere

Preseason starts tonight, which means we're one step closer to the regular season!

The field melted so now we don't get Monday Night Football tonight, game cancelled.

EDIT: Not melted, the paint used on the field ruined it.

The paint that was applied today on middle of field, and in endzones, has congealed; would be like playing on tar.

Game now doubtful.

— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) August 7, 2016

[NobodyHere]

You had one job field manager...

[Julio Riddols]

Hall of Fame LAME

[Thomkal]

well that's a horrible start to the NFL season.

[bhlloy]

Somebody is paying somebody else a shit ton of money over this

[stevew]

HOF Game is just another in the long list of Goddell debacles and I'm sure there will be a nice settlement for people who attended. Simply refunding the tickets won't be enough.

[NobodyHere]

How does this one fall on Goodell?

[Abe Sargent]

I don;t know if this is the place or not, so let'd do it:

My predictions for 2016 for the Jags:

1) Bortles, with a smarter play, and with a better running game, drops statistically from last year to to 4000 passing yards, 32 TDs, but gets his picks under control to 12.

2). Robinson is a beast and leads the team, and is one of the top receivers in the league again but with a fewer scores.

3). Hurns drops below 1000 yards from last year to somewhere near 900.

4). Julius Thomas reminds people why he's good, and continues the Bortles-Thomas connection when he was healthy last year (he had 5 scores and 455 yards in an aborted season)

5). If healthy, Marqise Lee breaks out and gives teh Jags some serious questions at receiver for the future.

6). Splitting carries at back very evenly, both Chris Ivory and TJ Yeldon have average years. The Running game improves due to....

7). Beachum wins the LT batter in camp after he returns from his surgery, and Joeckel slides to LG, which is actually a better fit for his skill set anyway. Impresses. Jags resign him to a cheaper LG contract. Also, newly minted C Brandon Linder becomes one of the better starting Centers in the league. He reminds folks that there was a reason many thought he was the best one on the line at the end of his rookie season

8). On defense::

9). Marks does not regain his 2014 form where he led all DTs in the league in sacks. Sad but true. He'll be a one-hit wonder

10). At the halfway mark of the season, either Ramsey or Jack is in the running for Defensive Rookie of the Year, but that fades by the end of the year

11). Malik Jackson is a disappointment

12). Dante Fowler leads the team in sacks, and becomes a major sack machine as the season progresses and he gets more on it.

13). At the end of the year, FS Gipson will look like the best FA signing for the Jags

14). With a strong FS presence, SS Jonathan Cyprien will stop being forced to do the away-from-the-line that's he's not good at. Helping with run support, tackling,forcing fumbles, causing disruption is where he's good, but not coverage or picks or stuff. He'll have the best year of his career in the SS role.

15). Near the end of the season, one of the three Jaguars star potential rookies on defense, Ramsey, Jack, or Fowler will be knocked out the season and have a rough injury.

16). Telvin Smith will, unfortunately, have a lesser season statistically as he's no longer the only show in town with Paul Poz coming back from surgery and Jack on the roster. He won;t make the NFLs Top 100 next year

17). Nobody on the Jags team is going to be high on the league's charts for picks. Not even Ramsey. But for other stuff, like passes defensed or something, that's on tab.

18). At the end of the year, the Jags will be 9-7 and potentially in the Wild Card chase. Andrew Luck doubters will falter, the Colts win the division, the Titans suffer a sophomore slump from their guy and the Texans need another year or two for Osweiler to get their offense and players. End of the year its Colts, Jags, Texans, and Titans, in that order.

[whomario]

A new german streaming service/group has bought the rights to the NFL here and will not only stream 3-4 games per round and all playoff games but also will stream the redzone channel.

Just wanted to share that happy bit of news

[Thomkal]

yay for Germany?

[Thomkal]

Tyrod Taylor agrees to contract extension with Buffalo Bills

[stevew]

seems like a reasonable gambit.

[wustin]

Wentz looked awful
Garoppolo looked fine
Bears' second string secondary looked like Rex Grossman could throw 300 yards against it.

[Galaril]

Wow Wentz out with fractured ribs.

[tucker rocky]

Originally Posted by Galaril

Wow Wentz out with fractured ribs.

Lets see what edp445 has to say about it.

*goes to check video*

As I expected, a profantity laced rant. lol!

[Julio Riddols]

I guess you could say he came and Wentz.. He must have been Wentzing in pain on the sideline. You Wentz some, you lose some.