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And now we have our friend Dubb, who thankfully I have already partially recapped.
Dubb 95 -- Asks to be tested 96 -- Realizes only 1 test a day so thinks we shouldn't test him 100 -- Throws out first overall vote for saldana 111 -- Finds out that vote for saldana doesn't count 120 -- Attempts to vote for saldana 121 -- Really votes for saldana 183 -- Quote:
198 -- Finds my post stating that I am going to kill someone funny and wonders what everyone else is supposed to do 201 -- Tells me that I'm the man 220 -- Wonders if I'm in the game 223 -- Thanks Schmidty for confirming I'm in the game 254 -- Votes for JeeberD 271 -- Says it's a wasted vote to go after him. Jeebs is more likely convert. 280 -- Hates tornados (I am not making that up, I promise) 281 -- Tells us about the bad storm 382 -- Wants to get an original thing and thinks hoops is it 423 -- Wonders about testing today 424 -- Has the exact same wonder about testing today 425 -- Calls the board "Nothing but trouble" 433 -- Votes for hoopsguy with no explanation 439 -- Asks if I still am saying Qwik was a thing 442 -- Is not convinced by my logic 467 - "We haven't converted since Saldana just died." 470 - Understands a point Blade was making about a conversion of Raiders 497 - Responding to the use of "we" in 467 and explains that he was referring to all the players in the game. Compares voting for him to voting for a Green Party candidate 511 - Believes that either hoops or I is a Shitface. Ends with "Test me, show your stupidity." 513 - In response to mckerny thinking he has been converted Quote:
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567 - Thinks RA maybe was converted on N1 584 - Thinks the day has been wasted (this is on D2 pt 2) 603 - Says he wasn't really paying attention around deadline (post deadline pre-result on D2 pt 2) 604 - Realizes he messed up 607 - Says how crazy late voting was 613 - Says he's clean 620 - Says he's a scientist and would say more but Schmidty said not to 637 - Dubb revealed to be clean during testing 667 - Believes an analysis raiders posted is flawed. Votes for Raiders 711 - Leaving votes on RA. Believes CW might already be converted. Says how hard it is to trust people this game 794 - Believes RA would've been voted for sure w/o CW coming out. Thinks Blade is innocent as he voted for dubb only to break a tie 796 - Believes CW was the seer at one point and is now converted 799 - Believes again CW is trying to buy time with his reveal 862 - Speaks about his knowledge with fake reveals. Believes now would be a good time for CW to do so if RA was a Shitface 870 - Believes RA wants to go in worthless circles 878 - Thinks voting record is over rated. Says it is easy to have a great voting record as a wolf. My limited study of this last game confirms that having a bad voting record on Days 1 and 2 is no predictor of being a wolf. 882 - Thinks there have been 2 conversions 892 - Disagrees with st.cronin who says voting record has been useful in last two games. Says the wolves have been playing poorly 897 - Quote:
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Also a note about my schedule: I am pretty free this morning but this afternoon I will only be able to do quick peeks at the thread before I am around consistently again for the last 2 hours before deadline.
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04-20-2006, 10:40 AM | #1005 |
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And we're onto Raiders.
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04-20-2006, 10:42 AM | #1006 |
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Which I see is 123 posts so it'll likely be an hour or so before I'm done so if I'm in the thread and not posting, that's why.
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04-20-2006, 11:11 AM | #1007 |
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Yawl know that you can post as I am doing my recap's right?
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04-20-2006, 11:19 AM | #1008 |
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How is the voting now and who has not voted?
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04-20-2006, 11:28 AM | #1009 |
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Here is what I have on votes, as of Post #1008:
Blade - Anxiety (696), Raiders (710), Cronin (722), mckerney (771) Coffee - WVUFAN (741), Blade (895), Swaggs (930), Dubb (931), Path (985) Tanglewood - Hoopsguy (922) Dubb - Coffee (946), JeeberD (952) Not Voted: Barkeep, Tanglewood I'm expecting to move my vote since there doesn't seem to be any consensus behind one of the four primary people being discussed. |
04-20-2006, 11:39 AM | #1010 |
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Er, "beyond", not "behind" ... basically, I think my vote will be wasted for all intents and purposes if it isn't on one of the guys who have been the topic of conversation over the last 24 hours.
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04-20-2006, 11:43 AM | #1011 |
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Hoops I am definetly moving in a direction that would have me vote outside "The 4".
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137 - Tells Anxiety not to delete posts 145 - Votes for saldana for using the word regular 147 - Quote:
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164 - Says he can't determine when we get a second vote 165 - Believes if we can use a second vote after checking a scientist the second vote should go to clear somebody 167 - Asks how the second pick is made 174 - Feels as good about blade as he does bad about saldana. No feel for hoops. 227 - Doesn't like saldana's regular statement but didn't mind WVU's "clean" statement 237 - Doesn't take too much stock of starting PMs 238 - Says hoops is a good choice to convert; also says Jeeber is a good choice 240 - Agrees we should try and find a starting rather then converted Shitface 241 - Believes the game is unbalanced if Shitfaces could convert every night 251 - Wonders if since there was no description of the conversion that we can still trust Jeeber 257 - Not sure what to make of dubb and cronin 265 - Going to rent the movie 268 - Thinks conversions are silent. 276 - Glad vote was delayed 287 - Says movie is inconclusive about whether noise is made upon conversion 291 - Discusses movie plot points with Qwik (who is dead, I'll add) 307 - Wonders if we can test Qwik's remains to see if I'm telling the truth 310 - Thinks we should test me. Wonders if there is a "doctor" role in the game that could test dead bodies 315 - Quote:
374 - Says he worded posts about saldana incorrectly. Was less sure then he appeared at the time. Only sure enough for a D1 vote. 375 - Votes for saldana. Claims it is because he does not agree with saldana voting for me 394 - Meaningless post 396 - Doesn't believe hoops is casting more suspicion then anyone else 398 - Questions saldana about being the first to place a second vote on D1, when saldana has just been critical of such a person 399 - Realizes Jeeber cast the first second vote on D1 409 - Believes either outcome from testing is a good thing 477 - Corrects hoops (saying he voted for saldana both days) 478 - Questions dubb about his use of we in reference to conversion (see dubb post 467) 479 - Tries to match my character up to the movie 481 - Votes for me in order to validate what I've done 482 - Claims he'd switch his vote to himself to avoid a tie. Beleives whoever gets the second vote on Day 2 pt 2 is a huge target for conversion 504 - Says based on voting chart dubb pops out at him. Votes for dubb 518 - Believes dubb's defence is similar to saldana's defense 519 - Says that if dubb isn't bad he'll still have a good voting record 522 - Points out that we don't know if they can convert everday. If they cannot was somebody converted D1 531 - Doesn't consider saldana an archenemy. Feels more strongly that I am good then dubb is bad which is why he switched votes 532 - Believes it possible for a thing to have changed their vote from saldana without suspicion until later on 538 - Says Blade's activity has been low 556 - Quote:
624 - Wants to catch up and respond to last minute events 625 - Responds to Blade's accusations that Raiders sounded like we knew we were going to hit a villager stating that the odds were that we were going to hit a villager 626 - Points out that hoops and blade " "conveniently" missed the deadline" 629 - Says he didn't want to be tested so as to avoid becoming a JeeberD target. Found all the vote switching strange 630 - Tries to correct some mistakes hoops has made about him by quoting old posts of his own. 631 - Defends vote for dubb 634 - To hoops who has defended what he's said to Raiders Quote:
643 - Admits that everyone was a convert, some just were before the game started 644 - Tries to get clarification from schdmity about flavor text 654 - Posts a vote count (wants it checked) 656 - Wants to be clear that he was not around during the deadline 665 - Believes there to be a silent conversion. Top 3 suspects are Jeeber, CW, and Blade. Gives thoughts on all players. 670 - Responding to blade who feels that his analysis in 665 is misleading asking Blade to state what was misleading 671 - Quote:
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693 - Believes according to voting patterns the top 2 suspects are Blade and Jeeber 694 - Believes Blade is ignoring facts 697 - Criticizes Blade for complaing about schmidty 708 - Feels Blade "shopped" for the answer he wanted. Says voting record still proves Blade voted for a scientist 709 - Defends lack of response as his going home 710 - Votes for Blade 712 - In reference to his 708 post Quote:
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809 - Believes WVU is ignoring what is out there 817 - Asks Blade what Blade thinks of his (Blade's) own voting record 818 - Movie post 831 - Quote:
842 - Wants to know if he and CW are Shitfaces what their victory strategy is 846 - Frustrated with blade 852 - Likes how Blade used "throwing other players under the bus" no sarcasm intended 859 - Posts a tenative vote count 861 - Believes Qwk's posting was night right 863 - Clarifies that I meant post not vote count 868 - Believes dubb is misled and not a thing 871 - Tries to get Blade to admit Blade's voting record is horrid 875 - Says conversion of CW doesn't make sense 880 - Says the throwing under the bus refers to an FOFC phrase about Peyton Manning 891 - Glad Blade admits Blade has had a bad voting record and reminds Blade that his post about Blade's voting record is what set Blade off 902 - To dubb Quote:
908 - Going to bed 987 - Thinks there's no reason for dubb to think he's the bodyguard 988 - Wonders why hoops would vote if he revealed as bodyguard 990 - Agrees with Anxiety that Blade talks too much fluff. Claims he throws stuff out there and sees what sticks and ignores the other side of arguments 991 - Understands why hoop made the comment about him and the bodyguard 992 - Quote:
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04-20-2006, 12:04 PM | #1013 |
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For the record that post is Raider's post recap. I have to admit that this did raise some eyebrows with me.
In particular posts 374 and 375. In 374 he is backing off his D1 vote and says he didn't feel strongly about it. Suddenly 10 minutes later he's voting for saldana. What happened in those 10 minutes Raiders? Also you asked for a scenario that makes you and CW things. It's quite simple. Original things: Qwik & Saldana N1: Convert You N2: Convert Coffee With you going after saldana perhaps they figured that made you a good target for conversion. Then by voting for saldana, despite the utter contradiction in your posts you seem to be clear. That is only further helped by CW's seer becoming on the thing side. That said I don't think you are a thing but I would like you to respond to the 374 and 375 issue. |
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So as I start Blade's recap do not expect me to finish it until around 3 eastern. Also I am still leaning towards saying all 4 of the suspects today are scientists and would like to seriously look at Tangle, Swag, Anxiety, and WVU who have all been under the radar.
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04-20-2006, 12:14 PM | #1015 |
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Oh I've completely forgotten about Jeeber. Yeah he's on that list along with the quiet 4. Shows how well he's gone UTR>
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04-20-2006, 12:27 PM | #1016 |
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I ahve to say how pleasant it's been to basically post to myself this mornign. Very little disagreement from the rest of you cocksuckers.
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04-20-2006, 12:46 PM | #1017 |
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I was wondering where the profanity had gone.
I'm hoping to get home a little early this afternoon after working some very long hours over the last week. If you don't have something up on the quiet players I'll be happy to take a stab at them. I don't think it will take as long as the post captures you are doing but if you want some collaboration instead of this just being a solo project let me know. So if you want to look at those five guys, does that imply that you have trust (for today, at least) in the people I'm listing as "not defined"? Obviously it is easier to look at a smaller group, but I would put mckerney (for example) into a classification of quiet. 1. JeeberD - quiet 2. st.cronin - not defined 3. tanglewood - quiet 4. Raiders Army - group of 4 5. Blade6119 - group of 4 6. dubb93 - group of 4 7. Swaggs - quiet 8. path12 - not defined 9. saldana - dead Thing 10. Qwikshot - presumed dead Thing 11. Barkeep - the person defining the terms here 12. mckerney - not defined 13. Coffee Warlord - group of 4 14. Anxiety - quiet 15. hoopsguy - not defined 16. WVUFAN - quiet |
04-20-2006, 12:51 PM | #1018 | |
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First off, nice analysis. I don't think I'd have the patience to do all of this.
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Unfortunately, when you're looking at so many posts sometimes you can't see the forest for the trees. Post 374 was why I voted for him on Day 1. Post 375 was my vote for him on Day 2. I can't remember what happened in those ten minutes. Boss came into my office? What I read in that is that I explained why I voted for him on Day 1 in the first post which was totally separate from the next post where I voted for him on Day 2. Obviously a lot happened between Day 1 and Day 2. |
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04-20-2006, 12:52 PM | #1019 |
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I'm labeled quiet after my drunken tomfoolery last night? Weird...
Actually, I'm labeled quiet every WW game I'm in so it's not really so weird.
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04-20-2006, 12:53 PM | #1020 |
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Another thought on Barkeep's role. He could be the wildcard in all of this. Remember he didn't receive a role in the beginning. What might be the easiest role to give out? A third party role where he has certain conditions that he can win under. He's not on the side of scientists and he's not on the side of Things. I don't think that's been brought up, but I just remembered those roles.
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04-20-2006, 12:59 PM | #1021 |
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Raiders here's the thing I don't understand: You apologize, essentially, to a shitface in 374 for voting for him on D1. Then all of a sudden you've turned the hell around and are doing it again in 375. I mean Godamn! That's some multiple personality shit going on right there. Still doesn't ring right with me.
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Hoops: Well when you put it that way I realize how little trust i have of so many of these cocksuckers.
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Makes sense to me what you said, but just saying that it's a possibility. |
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I appreciate the analysis since it's been a busy week for me. I'm still pretty comfortable with my vote, but am interested in seeing other opinions/reactions/etc.
I'll be very interested in seeing any recap of Anxiety's posts. I've been meaning to do that.....
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And here we go with Blade
Blade 110 - Says how brilliant he is (1st to use the magic word) 117 - Meaningless post 118 - Shows Anxiety how to vote 119 - Votes for Jeeber since Jeeber already said he was going to vote for him 224 - Points out that nothing can be done to stop my kill. Says he included brilliant because schmidty hadn't made it against the rules 225 - Is glad that there are other parts of the PM which haven't been mentioned 226 - Meaningless post 228 - Agrees with hoops that unique roles did not get the brilliant PM 231 - Doesn't want me to kill him 232 - Blade points out that the PM is only good until after the first night cycle 282 - Votes for me 283 - Believes that I was a conversion target or orginal Shitface by announcing my kill. Believes we should focus on original Shitfaces 286 - Reposts peoples first post. On a side note his wanting me to say that I killed Qwikshot, a thing, in basically those words looks even more rediculous upon reflection then it did when he first redrew my attention to it. 308 - Thinks by testing me we find out the truth about Qwik. 309 - Criticises my avoiding of his question 335 - Still wants me to answer his question 336 - Quote:
342 - Responds that my asking him why he hasn't voted for me that he did vote for me 344 - Doesn't like my list since hoops and I aren't on it 350 - Believes that taking a shot in the dark is worse then confirming that I am good and killed Qwik 354 - Wants to make it clear that voting for me isn't to clear me as much as to convict Qwik 356 - Asks why hoops and I are not on the list of six 357 - Thinks that I was overeager to put hoops off the list. Feels that shitfaces would attempt to convert a quiet one like Anxiety or WVU 359 - Wonders how going after a member of the list that day is better then in a future day 362 - Understands that I'm just trying to play the odds 379 - Says to saldana that we're using his list in reference to brilliant 404 - Is happy with saldana or me but prefers me 463 - Votes for Raiders 465 - Thinks Raiders was doing what he and hoops did in the treasure hunt game by trying to clear himself by being the one to put a shitface under pressure 466 - Referring to RA Quote:
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526 - Explains that he voted for me in the first part of the day to find out about Qwik but now thinks we can win and so he wants to try and find a shitface 530 - Believes that a vote for saldana doesn't necessarily clear someone 534 - Points out that 1 vote shift from saldana to me tests me 535 - Points out to Raiders that any time a person swaps from top to other top it creates suspicion 539 - Asks why a shitface would sacrafice himself when on nobody's radar to save another shtiface 541 - Defends his lack of posting 542 - Thinks having a Shitface stepout to save anotehr shitface is a gigantic risk 544 - Again emphasizes that a switch would not have created a tie between me and saldana 546 - Tells cronin he's not backing down 550 - Corrects hoops vote total 552 - Meaningless post 560 - Asks about the deadline 566 - Doesn't think dubb is a shitface 568 - Strongly believe RA is a conversion. Emphazes post where RA seems to know we're going to vote for a villager. 573 - Is willing to jump to RA if the votes are there 576 - Responds to me about testing vs dying in this game 578 - Wants dubb to switch his vote 583 - Wants CW to switch to prevent tie 586 - Asks dubb again to switch 588 - He's going to switch to prevent a tie 592 - Gives dubb 45 seconds 594 - Votes for dubb 597 - Says hoops vote shouldn't count because he unvoted incorrectly 599 - Says he'll "laugh his headoff if dubb is bad" 601 - Says dubb should be tested and is amazed at his silence 606 - Says how fun the last minute voting was 610 - Pages WVU 611 - Asks dubb if he's clean (this is after vote deadline but before shcmdity posts the results) 614 - Meaningless post 615 - Is upset we didn't win on Day 2 pt 2. Thinks we are in good shape for D3. 618 - Says how results won't be up that night 619 - Says he doesn't have a helpful role 668 - Says he isn't converted and votes for RA 669 - Agrees with dubb that RA's analysis is misleading 673 - Defends the difference between his official vote and who he wanted to vote for 674 - Says RA is twisting facts 680 - Defends having RA as a suspect despite RA's vote on saldana 681 - Asks schmidty about where his vote was on D2 pt 2 684 - Doesn't like CW's reveal. Feel it allows him to lie in future days. 686 - Argues RA's list of final votes in innaccurate 688 - Wanted to trust CW but feels this makes him a conversion target and so he cannot trust anything that is said 691 - Says he isn't shopping for facts but the truth in response to RA 695 - Thinks that perhaps schmidty made a mistake in response to RA 699 - Encourages RA to "bring it" 701 - Thanks schmidty for posting the vote count 702 - Asks schmidty how he is ignoring facts now that there is an official vote post 706 - Asks why RA is silent 782 - Says he is basically going to stop posting [i]If only that were true [/u] 783 - Asks if a N1 Raiders N2 CW conversion makes sense 785 - Says he edited a post to change a typo 789 - Quote:
792 - Thanks schmidty for understanding why he edited his vote 798 - Argues a post of CW is proof that CW is trying not to get tested 801 - Is happy that dubb is seeing his point of view 803 - Explains why he's calling dubb dubby 804 - Quotes a WVU post pointing out that WVU and he are both willing to be tested now, not later 810 - Defends voting record as being off a gut and with his having no way to know that Raiders is an innocent 814 - Thinks a shitface would never had tried to do the last minute vote change 815 - Meaningless post 820 - Quote:
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895 - Says he is working from his gut without allies. Votes for CW 898 - Argues that a post by Raiders is wrong by "official standards" 900 - Says that cronin shouldn't take offense at the crap he will give cronin after the test 901 - Asks hoop if a seer reveal makes sense if he is a human at this time 910 - Glad RA isn't taking their argument personally 912 - Is asking schmidty to end the day 914 - Argues that since hoops and I picked up hints about CW as seer shitfaces might have as well 919 - Meaningless post 925 - Quote:
928 - Questions why I was in and out 4 times without posting 929 - Thanks dubb for helping him 976 - Laughs that he has been criticised for not posting and for posting too much 977 - Thinks I might be a bad guy assassin 978 - Feels double vote days are key 979 - Refers people to his suspect list (post 877) 981 - Thinks double votes can overwhelm the conversion factor 982 - Thinks the comparison of the death sequences suggest I am a good guy 986 - Asks me for the name of my role Just for the record Blade claimed 3 times that he was done posting and 3 times he lied |
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I sure hope RA comes around, because after both Blade and I pointed out that his voting breakdown/discussion didn't allow for any discussion of who the late switch guys wanted to vote for compared to who they HAD to vote for in order to not get a tie, he seems to have just dropped that discussion all together.
Still trying to figure out how you can vote based on voting records and claim someone has a horrible one, but not discuss the deadline craziness of D2V2.
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THAT VOTING ANALYSIS WAS MINE. I KNOW I'M A SCIENTIST. IT DIDN'T MATTER IF BLADE WANTED TO VOTE FOR ME OR FOR YOU. HE WAS TRYING TO VOTE FOR A SCIENTIST. DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT WAS MY POINT OF VIEW? Holy Jesus. |
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Maybe I need to just post that again for the people who don't understand that.
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Also, I voted based on not only his voting record but also his reaction to my post...which was typical Blade. I'm surprised he has you roped into it.
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I believe I was the first to use the word "brilliant." It was in post #107. Blade followed up with it in post #110. RA posted it in #123 and then brought it to everyone's attention in post #174. In between the time I brought up the word "brilliant" and RA brought it to everyone's attention, saldana (post #112) and Anxiety (post #115) both posted as scientists, but did not use the word brilliant. My only conclusion from this is that, at the start of the game, Blade, RA, and I were all simple, but brilliant scientists without any special skills. In hindsight (and some other, more polished players picked up on it at the time, I suspect) saldana gave himself up somewhat with his post. Anxiety does not really tell me much, since he is fairly unfamiliar to the game--he could be a Thing, but could just as likely be a specialized scientist. |
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Might be best to go ahead and post it again. Still not following you, but it's more of a "here is what I want everyone to think without the need to go back and fact check" sort of way. And until you pony up and get checked I don't think the majority as a whole buys the fact that you are clean, thus the reason the one guy that has tried to clear you is the leading vote getter at this point.
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In fairness to RA what he is saying is no different then what I did when compiling the list of six. Except I knew I was right about the list of six and am far more skeptical about him. But I do agree that we should not be saying that his list was the be all and end all as a game, but rather was merely his personal opinion.
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04-20-2006, 03:29 PM | #1035 |
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Ok here's my list of people I think have been UTR and would like to see recieve more scrutiny: Anxiety, Swaggs, tangle, cronin and WVU
I am not terribely excited about the group of 4 except I still have some reservations about RA which would mean reservations about CW, but well I would much rather go for 1 of the five above OR go for Jeeber who is still an interesting candidate and has hung at the perfierary for the last couple of days, whether he's been UTR or not. The rest of the players are not really on my radar as Shitfaces today and so I would need some convincing to go in that direction. |
04-20-2006, 03:37 PM | #1036 |
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Well hoops, ill be around for about an hour then im gone for the day...care to play?
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04-20-2006, 03:45 PM | #1037 | |
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04-20-2006, 03:54 PM | #1038 |
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Now I haven't gone through and looked at his posts, but he's around a lot without posting much, so I will do a post recap in a couple hours. But from what I do remember his posts tend to be devoid of content and since i have no feel about him from previous games I'm going to hold it against him.
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04-20-2006, 03:56 PM | #1039 | |
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No, wait, that cant make sense...because if blade says it it must just be fluff or shit im throwing on the walls.
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04-20-2006, 04:01 PM | #1040 | |
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04-20-2006, 04:05 PM | #1041 |
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Yeah, I would like to play. But my early getaway from work has been cancelled so I'm going to have limited access for the next couple of hours.
Going from that list, WVU was very different than the time he was the quintessential under-the-radar wolf. He put himself out there yesterday, actually drawing the ire of some of the people he accused. I have him as the least likely wolf on that list, and this is after I was pushing for him late into Day 2 before trying to switch my vote at the end. Tangle - I posted my thoughts on him last night when everyone was looking at the four-pack of players. I think he would have made an excellent conversion target, particularly on Night 2 when the Thing should have been feeling isolated. The other three guys I don't quite have as strong an impression. They were the ones I was going to go back and look at posts when I got home. Anxiety - first time player, pretty infrequent poster. I get the impression he is playing very heavily by feel at this point in the game, rather than latching on to one player or heavily scrutinizing each and every post. Just not much surface area to work with here. Swaggs - I've played a few games with him now and my vibe has been that he is a guy who tends to come on late in games. I don't think he is all that quiet in terms of post count, but I also can't remember the last thing that he said that made me sit up in my chair and take notice. Out of this list, I think he is the guy that would worry me the most as a Thing. Cronin - I have a different read on him every game. In this one, he seems to have pretty strong impressions when he has casted his votes. I recall him having a theory on you for Day 2 that he never shared and he seems very certain of his vote on Blade for today. I stated that I believe he started as a scientist because Qwikshot seemed happy to move his vote to him on Day 1. I don't think they would have turned around and converted him on Night 1, so if he was converted I think it is more likely on Night 2 after I published him on a trust list and he seemed to generate little suspicion the entire time. Jeebs - obviously clean day 1. I think it would take some pretty serious cajones for the Things to go after him on Night 1 with the idea that there would be a bodyguard role in play. So I think he is a better Night 2 convert. Really need to go look at his posts ... |
04-20-2006, 04:07 PM | #1042 | |
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Raiders Army, did you recieve and message on night 2 about being tested?
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04-20-2006, 04:12 PM | #1043 |
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OK, here's a post recap for Anxiety:
85 -- 1st game, may sit back and observe. 91 -- "supposed to claim scientist, right? Why?" 115 -- Officially declares as scientist thing, not thing scientist. 130 -- responds to Blades correction of his vote (bolding) 132 -- votes tangle -- 1st to call himself scientist, too eager. 133 -- del/repost edited vote. 269 -- vote dubb -- rocks with Jeebers reasoning. 293 -- meaningless. 294 -- "How are you guys not violating this?" references Schmidtys PM warning. 378 -- Unvotes dubb, votes Barkeep -- too abusive. 447 -- Votes tangle, complains again about people talking about 'brilliant' 676 -- Votes Hoops, reason of general unease. 696 -- Thinks RA's analysis is good reasoning, unvotes hoops and votes Blade. 970 -- "5 pages to go thru, it's high time you guys admit you haven't got an f'in clue, etc, etc, Blade talks too much". It's an interesting post to reread. Now I've gotta get some friggin' work done.
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04-20-2006, 04:16 PM | #1044 |
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Blade, I can answer you on Night 1 about getting (or not getting) a message about being tested. I'll hold off for now to see what answer Raiders gives.
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04-20-2006, 04:18 PM | #1045 | |
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04-20-2006, 04:19 PM | #1046 |
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Checking back in. I not sure if I really have a clue who could be a Thing to be honest, I'll read up a bit more and post some thought is a bit.
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04-20-2006, 04:19 PM | #1047 | |
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04-20-2006, 04:21 PM | #1048 | |
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04-20-2006, 04:22 PM | #1049 |
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I just want to point out, though I don't really give it much credence, that CW could be covering for Hoops instead. I still don't think this makes sense as a shitface, but it would be quite the Kansas City Shuffle, so to speak.
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04-20-2006, 04:23 PM | #1050 |
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I'm here. Playing some TCB and refreshing every half hour or so to see if anything new has happened. My post total is a little low because I didn't pay much attention over Easter weekend (had company) and then had to work a lot earlier in the week, but I have tried to contribute what I think (but admit I do not have any concrete knowledge, based on my role).
My loose thoughts: --JeeberD seems suspicious to me. If I were on the Things team, I would have looked to convert him right after he tested clean. I voted for him last time and again this time, before changing to CW (more on that next). --I feel confident that Blade, RA, and myself were simple scientists to begin the game. There are probably a handful of other basic scientists, but I have no idea who they might be. I would suggest that Barkeep clearly was not, and I have my suspicious, based on the way they are playing, as to some of the others, but no real knowledge. --I think CW is probably the seer and have said so. I think it is a decent play to vote for him, though, because if he is not the seer, we can roll him and RA up and hopefully win the game in one turn. If he is, as I believe, the seer, it clears him, and probably RA and hoopsguy, and then we can really look hard at Blade and Dubb, since they seem to be somewhat aligned. --To me, the most interesting dynamic to this game is that voting ("lynching") someone in this game is not as big a swing in the favor of the Things, since it does not reduce the overall number of players, by killing someone. In addition, I am not as worried about being wrongly lynched/tested (and perhaps that is why there seem to be a few more attack dogs in this game), since I know I won't be knocked out of the game by being tested. --The only other slight thought I have, that is not really completely developed, but I feel is a minor point in my favor is that it makes little sense for the Things to have converted RA, Blade, or myself since it has been clear, from early on, that we were simple, but brilliant scientists. Since they know that, it would make more sense, to me, for them to try to try to convert or night kill roles that are more dangerous to them. I obviously cannot vouch for RA or Blade (I think, based on behavior, it is actually quite possible that one of these guys are Things) at this point, but that is just my line of thinking. Now, it is certainly possible the Things considered that as well, but I think if I were playing as a Thing, I would want to get rid of someone like an assassin, medic, witness, bodyguard, etc. That's pretty much all I have running around in my head right now. |
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