WW LXXIV Killer Kittens on Mount FujiMori day (GAME OVER- KITTENS WIN) - Page 21

Coffee Warlord · 06-02-2008, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

I don't think the show cat will be a priority for the dogs. I think they would rather take a shot at the BG or olie not being guarded.

And the show cat really gives us no value so them being night killed would be better then the BG or Olie.

A duke role gives us no value?

Yeah, true, it more often winds up duking a villager, but c'mon now.

Lathum · 06-02-2008, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

A duke role gives us no value?

Yeah, true, it more often winds up duking a villager, but c'mon now.

I think the value it gives us is they can reveal and have it be 100% believable and un challangable.

Passacaglia · 06-02-2008, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

I think the value it gives us is they can reveal and have it be 100% believable and un challangable.

You mean it's unchallengable once we vote for him? I'd rather just vote heinz today, rather than waste a day voting for the duke.

Lathum · 06-02-2008, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

You mean it's unchallengable once we vote for him? I'd rather just vote heinz today, rather than waste a day voting for the duke.

not what I mean at all. Once the duke reveals no one can counter reveal as the same role so IMO that person is insta trusted.

RendeR · 06-02-2008, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

I don't think the show cat will be a priority for the dogs. I think they would rather take a shot at the BG or olie not being guarded.

And the show cat really gives us no value so them being night killed would be better then the BG or Olie.

The big point we're mising here is that with all these reveals we;re making it a LOT easier for the dogs to narrow down who the BG is, and thats gotta be their #1 target right now, if they nail the BG they can then pick off the KNOWN roles one after another without fear of retribution.

I'm glad yer keepin track of all of this lathum, but any more reveals basically dooms our bodyguard.

Passacaglia · 06-02-2008, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by RendeR

The big point we're mising here is that with all these reveals we;re making it a LOT easier for the dogs to narrow down who the BG is, and thats gotta be their #1 target right now, if they nail the BG they can then pick off the KNOWN roles one after another without fear of retribution.

I'm glad yer keepin track of all of this lathum, but any more reveals basically dooms our bodyguard.

At this point, I don't think that's a big deal -- even if it's the BG, the wolves would be helping us by knocking off someone who isn't cleared.

The Jackal · 06-02-2008, 07:46 PM

I had a very busy day, just got back now and caught up. I think I'm actually going back to my day one vote. He's been pretty damn quiet and there's bound to be one wolf among us quiet folks, and I'm certainly not one.

Vote KWhit

Passacaglia · 06-02-2008, 07:50 PM

Thinking about the attempted kill of mccollins, I wonder if that was done to move the mob mentality to heinz. I've been pushing hard on him for trying to save PB, but it's rarely the first vote of the bandwagon that is the wolfy one -- it's the second or third. Since mccollins is looking good right now, I'm looking at KWhit. The flip side to this is: if mccollins and jeheinz are really both good, why not keep both alive, hoping we'll lynch one, then the other. Thoughts?

VOTE KWHIT

Passacaglia · 06-02-2008, 07:50 PM

oh shi

The Jackal · 06-02-2008, 07:50 PM

get out of my head pass

Passacaglia · 06-02-2008, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by The Jackal

I had a very busy day, just got back now and caught up. I think I'm actually going back to my day one vote. He's been pretty damn quiet and there's bound to be one wolf among us quiet folks, and I'm certainly not one.

Vote KWhit

I hate when that happens. The Jackal, you have anything more other than his quietude behind that?

The Jackal · 06-02-2008, 07:52 PM

I don't really think the show cat needs to reveal. I understand the merit for building a COT, but might as well keep the dogs in the dark as much as possible.

The Jackal · 06-02-2008, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

I hate when that happens. The Jackal, you have anything more other than his quietude behind that?

Not really, as he hasn't done much. I should go back and see how he voted, but its mostly a gut feeling. It's certainly not set in stone, but I don't have a better candidate at this juncture.

Do we think its possible that we hit two wolves on day 1 for two straight games? I have an eye on hoops, at the least.

The Jackal · 06-02-2008, 07:55 PM

And when I say we, I mean the village, since I was one of those wolves last game.

KWhit · 06-02-2008, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by The Jackal

Not really, as he hasn't done much. I should go back and see how he voted, but its mostly a gut feeling. It's certainly not set in stone, but I don't have a better candidate at this juncture.

Do we think its possible that we hit two wolves on day 1 for two straight games? I have an eye on hoops, at the least.

Haven't done much? I'd say I've been more active in this game than you.

Lathum · 06-02-2008, 07:56 PM

I think KWhit is a good choice. He scares the crap out of me as a wolf. Plus he cast the second vote on Cronin day one, maybe saw a chance to take out a solid player day 1.

VOTE KWHIT

KWhit · 06-02-2008, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

Assuming noone comes out ALSO claiming they are Spartacus, I'm inclined to go with the simplest explanation: Olie is the seer, and Lathum is the fool. It fits.

Though if that IS the case, I think the seer reveal is not a real smooth move. Thinking about it in the car, I don't have a clue why she did. It's not worth revealing yourself just to clear Lathum.

The only reason I could think of, if she IS telling the truth, is she thinks I'm a wolf, and if I am, then that WOULD prove Lathum is lying.

Same here. I tend to believe both Lathum and Olie at this point.

But I don't understand why Olie is coming so hard after Lathum.

KWhit · 06-02-2008, 07:58 PM

Wow. So it's run on KWhit night?

KWhit · 06-02-2008, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Thinking about the attempted kill of mccollins, I wonder if that was done to move the mob mentality to heinz. I've been pushing hard on him for trying to save PB, but it's rarely the first vote of the bandwagon that is the wolfy one -- it's the second or third. Since mccollins is looking good right now, I'm looking at KWhit. The flip side to this is: if mccollins and jeheinz are really both good, why not keep both alive, hoping we'll lynch one, then the other. Thoughts?

VOTE KWHIT

Checks something....

Ah.

Yes, you're the second vote on me.

Passacaglia · 06-02-2008, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by KWhit

Checks something....

Ah.

Yes, you're the second vote on me.

Passacaglia · 06-02-2008, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by KWhit

Same here. I tend to believe both Lathum and Olie at this point.

But I don't understand why Olie is coming so hard after Lathum.

This has been confusing me, too, but I'm just focusing on the fact that they're probably both right, and leave it at that.

The Jackal · 06-02-2008, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by KWhit

Haven't done much? I'd say I've been more active in this game than you.

Sorry if I've missed you posting or something. I had a pretty busy weekend and was lucky to be able to post this morning with that project I was working on. I'm just saying I've noticed you being much more assertive in other games, and playing style changes can often indicate not wanting to make too much noise as a wolf.

I certainly didn't mean to start a run on you.

The Jackal · 06-02-2008, 08:05 PM

I'll admit I was leaning towards voting for MC today, but that lolcat reveal without a counter-reveal of any sort is enough to give him a pass for now.

The Jackal · 06-02-2008, 08:05 PM

Anyone have a read on dang or seol? Having not played with them I don't want to make any rash judgements.

Passacaglia · 06-02-2008, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by The Jackal

Sorry if I've missed you posting or something. I had a pretty busy weekend and was lucky to be able to post this morning with that project I was working on. I'm just saying I've noticed you being much more assertive in other games, and playing style changes can often indicate not wanting to make too much noise as a wolf.

I certainly didn't mean to start a run on you.

So are you planning to change your vote?

Passacaglia · 06-02-2008, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by The Jackal

Anyone have a read on dang or seol? Having not played with them I don't want to make any rash judgements.

Sea Lion is a bit worrisome -- IIRC, he put a vote on PB Day 2, then unvoted and switched to hoopsguy. Dan has also not voted for PB.

Passacaglia · 06-02-2008, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Sea Lion is a bit worrisome -- IIRC, he put a vote on PB Day 2, then unvoted and switched to hoopsguy. Dan has also not voted for PB.

To finish up the list of people who never voted for PB, you got heinz, RendeR, and EagleFan.

The Jackal · 06-02-2008, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

So are you planning to change your vote?

Not at this point, no. But that's only because I don't have a candidate I want to switch to at this point. I don't like rapid voting/unvoting either. I know your vote was merely coincidental but I'm surprised Lathum hopped on so fast.

Lathum · 06-02-2008, 08:09 PM

yeah, but can we go by who voted for PB, would the wolves know he was the chiwawa?

oliegirl · 06-02-2008, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Sea Lion is a bit worrisome -- IIRC, he put a vote on PB Day 2, then unvoted and switched to hoopsguy. Dan has also not voted for PB.

ROFL...I'm assuming you guys are talking about Seolian

Coffee Warlord · 06-02-2008, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

yeah, but can we go by who voted for PB, would the wolves know he was the chiwawa?

Yes. I specifically asked if the minimutt had PM rights earlier in the thread.

The Jackal · 06-02-2008, 08:12 PM

Dang, Sea, and Eagle are probably hovering around my suspicion level of KWhit, so I'll be considering all of them between now and the deadline.

I'm getting a weird read off Heinz. My gut about him is usually right when he's a wolf, and I'm not feeling that way this game.

RendeR and I have been involved too much recently for me to make a move on him right now with no real evidence, so I'm not touching that.

The Jackal · 06-02-2008, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by oliegirl

ROFL...I'm assuming you guys are talking about Seolian

we'll call him what we want, just think of all the different ways people spell jackal.

Passacaglia · 06-02-2008, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by The Jackal

Not at this point, no. But that's only because I don't have a candidate I want to switch to at this point. I don't like rapid voting/unvoting either. I know your vote was merely coincidental but I'm surprised Lathum hopped on so fast.

What about EagleFan?

oliegirl · 06-02-2008, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by The Jackal

we'll call him what we want, just think of all the different ways people spell jackal.

I have no problem with it...it cracks me up actually. I can pretty much promise you that I'll be calling him Sea Lion at home from time to time

Lathum · 06-02-2008, 08:14 PM

just imagine what it's like to be Saldana

Passacaglia · 06-02-2008, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by The Jackal

Dang, Sea, and Eagle are probably hovering around my suspicion level of KWhit, so I'll be considering all of them between now and the deadline.

I'm getting a weird read off Heinz. My gut about him is usually right when he's a wolf, and I'm not feeling that way this game.

RendeR and I have been involved too much recently for me to make a move on him right now with no real evidence, so I'm not touching that.

Damn, another cross-post.

Passacaglia · 06-02-2008, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by oliegirl

I have no problem with it...it cracks me up actually. I can pretty much promise you that I'll be calling him Sea Lion at home from time to time

uh, clap asked for no pillow talk

Coffee Warlord · 06-02-2008, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

just imagine what it's like to be Saldana

I'd have boobs.

Lathum · 06-02-2008, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

I'd have boobs.

very true

RendeR · 06-02-2008, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

To finish up the list of people who never voted for PB, you got heinz, RendeR, and EagleFan.

You should check more carefully, I originally voted for PB because he was setting off my radar badly. Then he had the (in hindsight) fake-reveal and I gave him the benefit of the doubt and moved my vote.

RendeR · 06-02-2008, 08:40 PM

problem is, no one is really triggering my doggie-sense right now other than lathum and even I can't really vote lathum based on what evidence there is out there.

hrm...Place holder vote:

SEA LION

Just because thats one of the funniest name conversions I've seen here in a while.

Lathum · 06-02-2008, 08:42 PM

how could I possibly be triggering your dog radar?

I swear, it is tough always getting labeled by the man.

claphamsa · 06-02-2008, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by RendeR

problem is, no one is really triggering my doggie-sense right now other than lathum and even I can't really vote lathum based on what evidence there is out there.

hrm...Place holder vote:

SEA LION

Just because thats one of the funniest name conversions I've seen here in a while.

better than passacaligula?

Coffee Warlord · 06-02-2008, 09:29 PM

So, since my favorite candidate is quasi-cleared for the moment, I'm looking at the people who voted hoops over PB.

That gives me EagleFan, Lathum, and Sea Lion. Crossing Lathum off the list, it's between EF and the Sea Cat. Neither of them have inspired a whole lot of confidence for me. Going back to day 1, EF was on hoops, Sealion was on me.

And I see Eagle on, so before I put a vote on him...

Eagly? Poke poke. Give me some reasons not to vote for you.

Passacaglia · 06-02-2008, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by RendeR

You should check more carefully, I originally voted for PB because he was setting off my radar badly. Then he had the (in hindsight) fake-reveal and I gave him the benefit of the doubt and moved my vote.

I meant final votes -- I'm not really concerned with who you had your vote on before it counted. If anything, having your vote on PB, then taking it off makes you look MORE suspicious.

EagleFan · 06-02-2008, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

To finish up the list of people who never voted for PB, you got heinz, RendeR, and EagleFan.

My initial day one vote was on PB, and he was near the top of my suspect list. I didn't vote for him day 2 because of his reveal, now fake reveal and had suspected cronin so I initially voted for him. After it seemed that cronion was cleared I moved my vote off cronin but it was before the potential outing of the fake PB reveal so I was giving him another day as benefit of the doubt.

When I finally got back on this morning the late rush had begun on PB so I figured the vote was already decided and moving to himthen would not do anything for my standing so why bother changing t that point.

With that said I have to go with my initial suspicion of the pairs of wolves in my post last night (pretty sure it was last night as the weekend kind of blends together). If that doesn't pan out then I will have to take a serious look at hoops as something is striking me odd about his posts.

Now to respond to CW:

I can't really defend myself much here as I don't really know what else to say but I will try to put together a better list of what I think about each of the remaining players and where there allegiance may fall. I have finally begun to get a CoT and I will have their back as best I can but CW is not on that list yet so please give us a reason to not vote for you CW...

Passacaglia · 06-02-2008, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by claphamsa

better than passacaligula?

I dunno...cronion is a pretty good one, too.

EagleFan · 06-02-2008, 10:06 PM

I'll post more after the game is finished. Getting very hard to concentrate with that going on in the background.

The Jackal · 06-02-2008, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by EagleFan

I'll post more after the game is finished. Getting very hard to concentrate with that going on in the background.

overtimes are fun

06-02-2008, 08:40 PM	#1042
RendeR Coordinator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Buffalo, NY	problem is, no one is really triggering my doggie-sense right now other than lathum and even I can't really vote lathum based on what evidence there is out there. hrm...Place holder vote: SEA LION Just because thats one of the funniest name conversions I've seen here in a while. __________________ http://wotlabs.net/s...8/signature.png http://wotlabs.net/sig_dark/na/banichi18/signature.png

06-02-2008, 07:46 PM	#1007
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	I had a very busy day, just got back now and caught up. I think I'm actually going back to my day one vote. He's been pretty damn quiet and there's bound to be one wolf among us quiet folks, and I'm certainly not one. Vote KWhit

06-02-2008, 07:50 PM	#1008
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	Thinking about the attempted kill of mccollins, I wonder if that was done to move the mob mentality to heinz. I've been pushing hard on him for trying to save PB, but it's rarely the first vote of the bandwagon that is the wolfy one -- it's the second or third. Since mccollins is looking good right now, I'm looking at KWhit. The flip side to this is: if mccollins and jeheinz are really both good, why not keep both alive, hoping we'll lynch one, then the other. Thoughts? VOTE KWHIT

06-02-2008, 07:50 PM	#1009
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	oh shi

06-02-2008, 07:50 PM	#1010
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	get out of my head pass

06-02-2008, 07:52 PM	#1012
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	I don't really think the show cat needs to reveal. I understand the merit for building a COT, but might as well keep the dogs in the dark as much as possible.

06-02-2008, 07:55 PM	#1014
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	And when I say we, I mean the village, since I was one of those wolves last game.

06-02-2008, 07:56 PM	#1016
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	I think KWhit is a good choice. He scares the crap out of me as a wolf. Plus he cast the second vote on Cronin day one, maybe saw a chance to take out a solid player day 1. VOTE KWHIT

06-02-2008, 07:58 PM	#1018
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	Wow. So it's run on KWhit night?

06-02-2008, 08:05 PM	#1023
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	I'll admit I was leaning towards voting for MC today, but that lolcat reveal without a counter-reveal of any sort is enough to give him a pass for now.

06-02-2008, 08:05 PM	#1024
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	Anyone have a read on dang or seol? Having not played with them I don't want to make any rash judgements.

06-02-2008, 08:09 PM	#1029
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	yeah, but can we go by who voted for PB, would the wolves know he was the chiwawa?

06-02-2008, 08:12 PM	#1032
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	Dang, Sea, and Eagle are probably hovering around my suspicion level of KWhit, so I'll be considering all of them between now and the deadline. I'm getting a weird read off Heinz. My gut about him is usually right when he's a wolf, and I'm not feeling that way this game. RendeR and I have been involved too much recently for me to make a move on him right now with no real evidence, so I'm not touching that.

06-02-2008, 08:14 PM	#1036
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	just imagine what it's like to be Saldana

06-02-2008, 08:42 PM	#1043
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	how could I possibly be triggering your dog radar? I swear, it is tough always getting labeled by the man.

06-02-2008, 09:29 PM	#1045
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	So, since my favorite candidate is quasi-cleared for the moment, I'm looking at the people who voted hoops over PB. That gives me EagleFan, Lathum, and Sea Lion. Crossing Lathum off the list, it's between EF and the Sea Cat. Neither of them have inspired a whole lot of confidence for me. Going back to day 1, EF was on hoops, Sealion was on me. And I see Eagle on, so before I put a vote on him... Eagly? Poke poke. Give me some reasons not to vote for you.

06-02-2008, 10:06 PM	#1049
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	I'll post more after the game is finished. Getting very hard to concentrate with that going on in the background.

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