Werewolf LVIII: Clash of the Gods (GAME OVER)

[Abe Sargent]

Originally Posted by Lathum

the timing of it seems odd.


why reveal?

Agreed. I was going to push CR a bit with a vote, but now I thinking of tweaking Telle with a vote instead. Of course, if the role does help us, then maybe I should just go with my gut and vote CR.

What's the case agaisnt Schmidty? I dont get that.

[hoopsguy]

RendeR, I've got a hunch on who you are in the game. However, that doesn't fit at all, as far as I can tell, with why you would not be able to act against me.

Hmm, going to break out Wikipedia ...

[Abe Sargent]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

OK, so I'm undetectable by Anxiety on Day 2 - not a huge surprise as I was kidnapped (Minotaur's lair).

However, you trying to take action against me on Day 3 and failing is a big surprise. I've got a bunch of questions that I would like to ask about this, but I don't want to force you into talking about your role if you are not prepared to do so. So, how about this - you ask me questions and I'll try to answer them.

Who are you referring to?

[RendeR]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Also, I certainly did not expect you to name me, RendeR. I did not receive any kind of PM related to you at all today.

This is why I suspect a third party involved in keeping me from succeeding.

[RendeR]

Originally Posted by Anxiety

Who are you referring to?

He was talking to me.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by RendeR

This is why I suspect a third party involved in keeping me from succeeding.

Was a third party named?

[Abe Sargent]

So Lathum, since you are here. If you are the bg, but not Olympian, do the wolves attack you today? What do you think?

[RendeR]

I'm about up to ==========>here with al these reveals as well.

So many reveals and not a single denial.

I petty much am certain that the Titans KNOW what roles are actually in the game.

And I am beginning to think there is at least 1 if not 2 Titans in the group of revealers.

Anxiety
Arlington Colt
lathum
Telle

who else has revealed and remains alive?

[RendeR]

Originally Posted by Lathum

Was a third party named?

No names, simply "your ability did not succeed" ( paraphrased of couse )

[hoopsguy]

Yeah, the best idea I can come up with is that someone blocked your action. I don't know of any reason why you would not be able to direct an action at me, assuming my theory on you is correct.

I don't think it makes sense to delve too deeply into what I think your role is, so unless you want to explore the topic I'll drop it. I'm probably wrong anyway ...

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Anxiety

So Lathum, since you are here. If you are the bg, but not Olympian, do the wolves attack you today? What do you think?

why even discuss this?

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to determine the order of my actions, it's up to the Titans to figure out if I am gonna bob or weave.

[RendeR]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Yeah, the best idea I can come up with is that someone blocked your action. I don't know of any reason why you would not be able to direct an action at me, assuming my theory on you is correct.

I don't think it makes sense to delve too deeply into what I think your role is, so unless you want to explore the topic I'll drop it. I'm probably wrong anyway ...

Best to leave it for now, suffice to say what I can do is pretty limited but in the long haul its a real benefit to the Olympians.

[Abe Sargent]

Originally Posted by Lathum

why even discuss this?

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to determine the order of my actions, it's up to the Titans to figure out if I am gonna bob or weave.

Fair enough, I accept that.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by RendeR

No names, simply "your ability did not succeed" ( paraphrased of couse )

hmmm

if the person who visited me night 1 is the same person that visited you last night we may have made a discovery.

I'll leave it up to that person to come forward should they so choose.

[Neon_Chaos]

Originally Posted by Lathum

hmmm

if the person who visited me night 1 is the same person that visited you last night we may have made a discovery.

I'll leave it up to that person to come forward should they so choose.

Lathum, I have a vague idea as to who it is you are alluding to... if we're talking about the same person... just based on his postings on the board.

[hoopsguy]

OK, if you are planning to weave instead of bob - or the other way around.

Don't stay home on your guard as you don't count on ratio. There are three "revealed Olympians" out there, so you can't guard all of them. Work on figuring out who the big two Olympians are and guard one of them.

Obviously, if you are a human/hero you may have your own victory conditions. You may be interested in keeping yourself alive as part of the game. Or you may think that my advice sucks. But the above represents what I think is the optimum play for today.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

OK, if you are planning to weave instead of bob - or the other way around.

Don't stay home on your guard as you don't count on ratio. There are three "revealed Olympians" out there, so you can't guard all of them. Work on figuring out who the big two Olympians are and guard one of them.

Obviously, if you are a human/hero you may have your own victory conditions. You may be interested in keeping yourself alive as part of the game. Or you may think that my advice sucks. But the above represents what I think is the optimum play for today.

They also can't kill all 3 olympians.

It seems like there are to many people trying to gain some insight into what I am gonna do tonight.

[Lathum]

here is the thing with Render.

If we were visited by the same person the I think Render is a bad guy. I was told who visited me. If it was the same person who visited Render I am wondering if there is some balancing mechanism involved and that's why he didn't find out.

[Neon_Chaos]

We need to get our act together, guys... send these Titans to sleep with the fishies.

[RendeR]

Yeah, lets leave off all this BG discussion, If Lathum IS the BG I'm sure he has the where-with-all to handle the role properly.

[Poli]

ANOTHER FLIPPING REVEAL?? COME ON.

[RendeR]

Originally Posted by Lathum

here is the thing with Render.

If we were visited by the same person the I think Render is a bad guy. I was told who visited me. If it was the same person who visited Render I am wondering if there is some balancing mechanism involved and that's why he didn't find out.

I was not visited by anyone, notihng occured BY or TO me overnight. My ability can take place at any time during a given day. I attempted to use it with hoops this morning and was simply told via PM from Alan that it failed.

I was a bit shocked as I had not had any problems the first two days, but the more I consider the possible titan and Olympian roles the more I feel that one of them intercepted my attempt.

Thats all I know atm, I really can't add anything more to it. I am not a titan and I am not in league with the titans. There are those who COULD verify this but I ask them not to for now. in another day or two it will make more sense to do so.

[Abe Sargent]

Can anybody tell me what the case vs Schmidty is, don't rememebr.

[RendeR]

OK, as I sit here mulling all this over I come upon a problem. Frankly its only really a problem for me, but thats another matter altogether.

First off we locked in on day 1 voters for BK, and narrowed that list down to CR and Telle.

Now I've ofered up the growing suspicion of fake reveals that I have and consider the 4 as suspect, conveniently, there is only 1 overlap there.

Telle.

This disturbs me.

[RendeR]

Originally Posted by Anxiety

Can anybody tell me what the case vs Schmidty is, don't rememebr.

No clue, I have nothing on schmidty at all.

[Lathum]

ok, fair enough Render

[Abe Sargent]

I'm not the sort of WW player who goes back and reareads the thread, so if I don;t remember, I;m screwed. THat's why icouldn't rememebr if there was somethinv vs Schmidity or not

[Abe Sargent]

I'm going to push CR for now, but my vote is fluid baby!

Voting the Chiefing Rumming

[Poli]

There's schmidty. My vote's on him because we've heard next to nothing out of him.

My vote's up for a change after what I've read, though.

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

my day has ended up a lot crazier than i would have liked. i will for sure be home and active before lynch (caveat: game 2 of the WS and BC vs. VT football games tonight)

Very perplexed by AC. In fact I'm very perplexed by the lack of significant info that anybody has from night actions...lathum won't tell us about his visitor...AC won't tell us or doesn't know what his powers did...schmidty has been AWOL...

for now

VOTE SCHMIDTY

For 10,000th f'ing time: I WORK GRAVEYARD AND AM IN PST!!!!!!!! I AM NEVER AROUND IN THE DAY BEFORE 2P.M. PST OR LATER!!! AT NIGHT WHEN I CAN POST AT WORK, NO ONE IS AROUND!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You are picking on someone who you think won't fight back, and you weren't even the first person brave enough to do it, so:

VOTE DADDYTORGO

[Lathum]

ok, Render has been pretty adament about Telle.

I am narowing it down between Telle and ArlingtonColt but for now it stays on ArlingtonColt

[RendeR]

I Heart Schmidty.

[Neon_Chaos]

Ummmm...

overreaction?

[Schmidty]

What a bunch of chumps. Voting on me because I'm not around for reasons I've already stated is lame and weak. Nice strategy guys.

[RendeR]

Originally Posted by Neon_Chaos

Ummmm...

overreaction?

Heh, no that is exactly the reaction I expected from him, anything less and I'd vote for him myself

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by Neon_Chaos

Ummmm...

overreaction?

No.

I get sick and tired of people doing the same thing to me game in, game out. It gets old, and is a big reason why I rarely play anymore.

[Poli]

Originally Posted by Schmidty

For 10,000th f'ing time: I WORK GRAVEYARD AND AM IN PST!!!!!!!! I AM NEVER AROUND IN THE DAY BEFORE 2P.M. PST OR LATER!!! AT NIGHT WHEN I CAN POST AT WORK, NO ONE IS AROUND!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HULK ANGRY, HULK SMASH!

Fixed. Love ya, big guy.

[Neon_Chaos]

Originally Posted by Schmidty

No.

I get sick and tired of people doing the same thing to me game in, game out. It gets old, and is a big reason why I rarely play anymore.

Well, I'm glad that you showed up. So, Schmidty, other than the reactionary vote on DT, do you have any inclinations as to what has been going on, and who needs to be put under the microscope?

[Schmidty]

I would be much less pissed if someone says, "I just have a gut feeling about...." and then votes, than I am when people use the "He's quiet...." about a person who is always quiet. It's a weak ploy because people know I'm not always around to defend.

By the way, sorry for calling people chumps.

[Poli]

Originally Posted by Schmidty

What a bunch of chumps. Voting on me because I'm not around for reasons I've already stated is lame and weak. Nice strategy guys.

I just want to hear more out of you. If I have to put an initial vote on you to do so, don't blame me. Blame yourself. I mean that in the nicest, mellowest Ardent tone that I can.

As is, my votes fluid...and will likely move to AC or CR.

[Poli]

You're my boy Blue, I mean Hulk.

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

Fixed. Love ya, big guy.

LOL.

That was the most fun I have ever had playing WW.

We need to have another one. Maybe DC Universe or something.

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by Neon_Chaos

Well, I'm glad that you showed up. So, Schmidty, other than the reactionary vote on DT, do you have any inclinations as to what has been going on, and who needs to be put under the microscope?

You know what, I'm just going to be honest and say no, I don't have a feel about anyone. I still need to go back and read the past 4 pages better, but I must say that I don't have anything solid other than gut feelings. I really feel bad about DG and Telle. Thats not just because of the votes, but because they seem to be tack-on votes this game so far.

[Telle]

Originally Posted by Lathum

the timing of it seems odd.


why reveal?

Because it seemed pretty obvious that a bunch of people were about to vote for me and I wasn't convincing anybody otherwise... and I knew I wouldn't be around much anymore today. As it is, I just popped on for a moment now, haven't even gotten to the end, and my daughter has woken up.. soo, I'm off to change a couple of diapers and head to the park, and probably won't be back online until close to deadline.

[Poli]

Raise your hand if you're with me:

You think Telle is high. I wasn't drawing the conclusion she was about to be lynched when I came in to read what happened while I was gone.

[Poli]

o/

[hoopsguy]

Schmidty, I've got another one coming up in two games. Will be a continuation of the last game.

But I do agree with the others who have suggested they would like you to offer more thoughts on the current game status. I didn't go with the "vote low poster" strategy for review today because I think there is a good direction to follow, but that is normally my default logic when I'm stumped.

[Abe Sargent]

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

Fixed. Love ya, big guy.

I was thinking the EXACT SAME THING too.

[Poli]

Credit to Telle though: I certainly missed RA's vote on her last night.

[RendeR]

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

o/

I withhold my hand raising for fear of being lynched IRL when i get home......