01-02-2006, 09:51 AM | #1001 |
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I'm keeping my vote on Gramm then.
Yeah, I went through around 11:30 last night. Decided honking was .... bad.
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01-02-2006, 09:55 AM | #1002 | |
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I am very curious about this as well. |
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01-02-2006, 09:55 AM | #1003 |
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Good lord. Whole armada of posts. Gotta run some errands, and I'll post a current tally after that.
edit: And field questions to me that I see/can answer. Last edited by Coffee Warlord : 01-02-2006 at 09:56 AM. |
01-02-2006, 10:04 AM | #1004 | |
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that's what I got out of it as well. well guys it looked like the stack was well against the demons/wolves in this one, but I'd be willing to bet with so many good roles that the demons have something up their sleve to help themselves out too. I wish I had more to offer besides St. C vouching for me 100%. I guess to help everyone out my circle of trust is St. C, Hoops, & WVU - I absolutly 100% trust these players in what they've said and done. |
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01-02-2006, 10:20 AM | #1005 |
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Gram, I would love to hear what your thoughts are on the weekend once you are caught up.
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01-02-2006, 10:23 AM | #1006 |
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This is what I've got.
1 - st.cronin 1 - blade 1 - sndvls 1 - barkeep 4 - grammaticus 1 - TazFTW 1 - AE |
01-02-2006, 10:37 AM | #1007 |
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I currently have it going to sun, and coffee confirmed i can validate a lynch without changing it if i wanted that person
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01-02-2006, 10:37 AM | #1008 |
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dola, good morning and how long till the deadline? i hate timezones
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01-02-2006, 10:38 AM | #1009 | |
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Noon CST, so roughly an hour and a half. |
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01-02-2006, 10:39 AM | #1010 |
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1 hour 22 minutes according to my clock.
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01-02-2006, 10:39 AM | #1011 |
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Damn, then i could have woken up at 10 and been fine...grrrrr
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01-02-2006, 10:42 AM | #1012 |
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Blade I would encourage you not to be a hero. I think you're making a large mistake by going for Sn.
You stated earlier you were uneasy because no one was defending Gram. I think people have defended gram by voting for other people and hoping something would take. Look at how many different people have votes. Further, they don't really need to defend him against votes when you could just change it unilaterally. I still am gravely suspicous about Taz, but to show my good faith and try and nudge you, I'm going to unvote Taz and vote for Gram. Unvote Taz |
01-02-2006, 10:43 AM | #1013 |
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Vote Grammaticus
In the hopes that Blade will duke him. |
01-02-2006, 10:43 AM | #1014 |
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I might go lie down for another 20 minutes or so, but since gramat is now here i expect a defense from him for why he should be lynched...I have been lenient with him since i havent seen him around at all, not just not posting...since he is here now he needs to speak up or i will swap it back
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01-02-2006, 10:45 AM | #1015 |
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dola, why he shouldnt be lynched*
People are calling him a demon, and i would think he would like to defend himself
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01-02-2006, 10:46 AM | #1016 |
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If I read right, the deadline is in about 15 minutes. I cannot read the last 4 pages and still communiate with posts. So I will post this and then start letting you know what I think.
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01-02-2006, 10:46 AM | #1017 | |
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That's a mistake. Nobody has cleared Gram, Gram hasn't posted since I voted for him, and you seem to believe that I am not a demon. So why lynch Sun? Whatever you think my motivations are (and they are entirely human, I assure you), Sun is a human and Gram is a demon. Lynch somebody else; lynch me if you think I'm playing you; do *not* lynch Sun. |
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01-02-2006, 10:49 AM | #1018 |
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I hope this helps Blade trust me since he seems to have all the power and wants me dead.
UNVOTE BLADE |
01-02-2006, 10:49 AM | #1019 |
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VOTE GRAMMATICUS
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01-02-2006, 10:51 AM | #1020 |
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Not sure why everyone wants to blindly believe St. Cronin. He does not know anything. If you lynch me, you are wasting a lynch. Don't do it, I'm a Human.
I think we are far better lynching Blade to see if he is full of crap. He revelead his role way too early. He did not have his neck in the noose, he made the reveal to try and look too strong to lynch. As long as we all beleive he can change the lynch, he hold power over all of us. Call his b/s bluff. VOTE BLADE6199 It has a higher chance of being a demon and covering himself with a sheild. "Dont' vote me or I many Duke you". |
01-02-2006, 10:51 AM | #1021 |
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Gram you still have another hour, if you see this.
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01-02-2006, 10:51 AM | #1022 |
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Its hard for me to explain my motivations without saying too much, but i think elementals want the druid/warlock alive...so if a person was an elemental, he would do everything necessary to keep those two roles alive. I may be quite far off, as it takes a few liberties and assumes my idea for elemental winning condition includes needing both the druid/warlock alive as long as possible. But under that view i see sun as the warlock, hence where im looking right now.
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01-02-2006, 10:54 AM | #1023 |
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The game certainly would be easier for us if we understood the victory conditions for the elementals, no doubt about it.
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01-02-2006, 10:54 AM | #1024 | |
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01-02-2006, 10:55 AM | #1025 |
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I also have suspected Hoopguy, he and Blade have bantered back and forth showing an underlying distrust for each other, but not really doing anything about it. Plus on post 824 hoopsguy made a fruedian slip and I believe admitted he is a demon:
Hoopsguy in post 824 Ugh - villager willing to die is always nasty in these games, but particularly in one where demons are in as strong position as we are right now.**sorry can't get the quote wrap to work. Last edited by Grammaticus : 01-02-2006 at 10:55 AM. |
01-02-2006, 10:58 AM | #1026 | |
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Clumsy post ... be careful, you're going to win the game for the demons. |
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01-02-2006, 11:02 AM | #1027 | |
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01-02-2006, 11:07 AM | #1028 | |
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Not if sun is the warlock...if hes not, i dont know where he is...so if hes not a wolf hes not a real threat to the wolves...Not sure how that helps the demons other then let them know how wrong my views prob. are. Option C is im dead on and you dont want sun dying, becuase he is one of those roles
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01-02-2006, 11:07 AM | #1029 |
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I'm feeling better about lynching Gram at this point than when he was silent.
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01-02-2006, 11:12 AM | #1031 | |
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You're not thinking through all the implications. You think you know my role, but you don't. It is essential that Sun not be lynched TODAY. It is essential that Gram be lynched TODAY. Even if you think they are both wolves, moving on Sun has to wait. |
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01-02-2006, 11:12 AM | #1032 | |
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it doesn't seem like it matters as Blade is pretty much screwing the villagers by changing the lynch to me. I feel like in the x-com game where I was refused water. I was good then I'm good now. At least in that game I died for a cause and the villagers won. The demons have something up and we are screwed. Thanks for nothing. Let's get this over with. CW, is it time yet? |
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01-02-2006, 11:14 AM | #1033 |
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as a gauge, outside of barkeep who wants me to use it to validate gramat even if he is already dying instead of saving it and hoping they attack a far more leathal role tonight? Im interested in hearing everyones view, as ive already had 2 PMs sent to coffee with changes in who i am to duke, and am considering a third
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01-02-2006, 11:15 AM | #1034 |
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Yep, when SnDlvs posted his trust list it includes three guys I know are not demons (me, Cronin, and WVU who used his power). Good play by him no matter which side he is on.
I know that we want Blade to use his power to prove his Duke-ness, but I'm not 100% convinced I want it spent here even if it means we have to continue worrying about him for another day. The demons have plenty of candidates to pursue tonight, Blade would be an unlikely selection. And I'm not convinced I'll be as certain about our play tomorrow. Wicked thought of the moment - what if one of the players with a resurrection power is actually a necromancer or something like that? That they raise a player who then returns as a demon. Probably just my wild imagination ... |
01-02-2006, 11:19 AM | #1035 |
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I don't need Blade to validate himself with the duke role, personally -- I believe him as it is.
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01-02-2006, 11:21 AM | #1036 | |
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I swear, its like Sun's role is piss off blade...and pissing me off right as i am planning to move it off you is not smart...Hell, maybe i should kill you just to spite you since you seem to think thats been my goal this whole game. God damn, you and gramat are like competing to see who can piss me off the most...
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01-02-2006, 11:24 AM | #1037 |
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LOL, at this point I would like to follow Cronin's lead. Gram's response makes me very suspicious of him and I'm less so of SnDvls even if he is getting under your skin.
Obviously your call, but I would recommend letting the village lynch Gram today and plan on being around tomorrow to re-visit lynch decisions since demons will be hard-pressed to justify attacking you with other prominent roles out there. |
01-02-2006, 11:26 AM | #1038 | |
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Solid reasoning. I really hope the demons don't go for you tonight, hoops. Your logic has been sound. |
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01-02-2006, 11:27 AM | #1039 |
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I find it odd that Barkeep is so insistent that Blade use his power up.
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01-02-2006, 11:27 AM | #1040 | |
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1 VOTE I USE IT TO VALIDATE GRAMAT: BARKEEP As of now i might let gramat die without validating then..id like to hear more views
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01-02-2006, 11:29 AM | #1041 |
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Blade - this isn't ment to piss you off
I say use it for several reasons. 1) it validates Gram or not 2) it validates you or not 3) it validates St. C or not 4) it validates me or not that's 4 people if you use it it gives us a good read on the numbers out there and left too. anyhow I'm waiting for the lynch from here on out and not posting until after then |
01-02-2006, 11:31 AM | #1042 | |
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01-02-2006, 11:33 AM | #1043 | |
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If i dont use it we still get 1,3,4...thats the key...if i save it, gramat is good, then tomorrow i can duke one of you...if hes bad, we can go after taz or barkeep. And that post was wonderful, not attacking in any way...
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01-02-2006, 11:33 AM | #1044 | |
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Blade, you keep saying you are going to Duke someone right NOW. Can you make a kill before the lynch or night? And if you want to Duke me, you go right ahead, I am not afraid of you or anyone else. In fact, I don't think you can Duke anyone. You are more than likely a fibbing Demon trying to terrorize everyone else and Hoopsguy is definatley helping you. Or maybe you guys are in some secret society together. Not sure, but you are not on the up and up. |
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01-02-2006, 11:34 AM | #1045 | |
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As the vote stands now yes, I was more thinking if there was a quick switch off Gram. |
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01-02-2006, 11:36 AM | #1046 | |
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01-02-2006, 11:37 AM | #1047 | |
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01-02-2006, 11:41 AM | #1048 | |
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01-02-2006, 11:41 AM | #1049 | |
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I don't know if you are a demon or not, but you are not to be trusted. It is way to early in the game for you to know anything and the role you told us you have does not give you a chance to view anyone. |
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01-02-2006, 11:41 AM | #1050 |
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Blade, we need to change the secret society handshake - they are on to us!
Nothing more sinister here than two players who have some time on their hands and have played a few games together trying to hammer things out. If Blade has me duped with a fake duke, then bravo to him on a role well played. I expect he would say the same thing to me, but I'm betting at the end of the game we'll see that both of us are villagers looking to put some significant pressure on the demons through extended analysis. |
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