Obama versus McCain (versus the rest)

[Galaxy]

Originally Posted by MrDNA

I love that DT's comments in this thread are now almost entirely Brown-centric

I know. At least he's got good taste (well, besides being a Pats fan).

[MrDNA]

Hey, I'm just pissed I don't have cable. I definitely don't want to fondle these old white dudes.

[JPhillips]

Originally Posted by Mustang

Who knows what the next 4 years hold. Maybe the economic situation worsens, interest rates climb, tax rates aren't what they were made out to be. I don't think it is written in stone that the next 4 years will be better. We hope obviously, but who knows. If things don't go fantastic, going to be real hard to point a finger at the Republicans with a Democratic Congress and President and put the blame on them. To say that the Republican party isn't viable as a national party is a little quick on the trigger.

Short term i think you're right, but long term the Republicans have to be worried that their leadership is pushing in a direction opposite of demographic trends.

[DaddyTorgo]

sweet holographic technology by cnn actually, i'd like to point that out

[Lathum]

This is my first election spent on the west coast and it is kind of odd. It seems like my state is obsolete. I guess if the election was closer it would be different, but its kind of depressing

[sabotai]

CNN HAS CREATED THE HOLODECK!!!!

[Buccaneer]

I had said a while ago that it is all about turn-out. The extra 12-15% will easily be the difference.

[BishopMVP]

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

Hey, I'll be the first to admit I will not have worked for the money that I will one day inherit. That said, I've worked damned hard to keep myself living comfortably and NOT having to live off my parents.

The simple truth is....the rich are an easy target to tax into oblivion. It's the bread and circus show of the modern age. Tax the shit out of the rich, keep the plebes on the government teet, and you've got yourself an angle to be popular.

I find that thoroughly irritating.

Sweet, sweet, economic populism.

Depending on how much of Obama's platform passes, we'll probably surpass 50% of voters receiving government programs.

"A democracy only lasts until the population realizes it can vote money to itself."

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

It's the only choice possible. We've just watched the embarrassing results of running a sorry ass RINO.

It wasn't too many pages back in the thread where someone described the core of the country as center-right. Maybe even more than that, we don't seem to have much liking for candy asses & half measures, which is exactly what McCain came across as.

Or they could go back to running as fiscal conservatives, which is what led to Reagan's dominant victories and the huge 1994 sweep. (Or they could have lost 2 more senate seats and given the Democrats a veto-proof majority. The pendulum is going to begin swinging back hard in 2010, and 60+ in the Senate would make that even bigger.)

[JPhillips]

Roughly ten minutes until the networks call it for Obama.

[Galaxy]

Originally Posted by BishopMVP

Depending on how much of Obama's platform passes, we'll probably surpass 50% of voters receiving government programs.

"A democracy only lasts until the population realizes it can vote money to itself."Or they could go back to running as fiscal conservatives, which is what led to Reagan's dominant victories and the huge 1994 sweep. (Or they could have lost 2 more senate seats and given the Democrats a veto-proof majority. The pendulum is going to begin swinging back hard in 2010, and 60+ in the Senate would make that even bigger.)

It'll be interesting to see how the congressional seats are re-allocated (and the districts are drawn up) and the electoral votes are also re-allocated for 2012.

[Tigercat]

Originally Posted by BishopMVP

Sweet, sweet, economic populism.

Depending on how much of Obama's platform passes, we'll probably surpass 50% of voters receiving government programs.

We surpassed that long ago, as has every industrialized country I can think of.

[JPhillips]

Originally Posted by BishopMVP

Sweet, sweet, economic populism.

Depending on how much of Obama's platform passes, we'll probably surpass 50% of voters receiving government programs.

"A democracy only lasts until the population realizes it can vote money to itself."Or they could go back to running as fiscal conservatives, which is what led to Reagan's dominant victories and the huge 1994 sweep. (Or they could have lost 2 more senate seats and given the Democrats a veto-proof majority. The pendulum is going to begin swinging back hard in 2010, and 60+ in the Senate would make that even bigger.)

The Senate likely won't change greatly in 2010 as the 04 elections left a pretty Dem favorable map in 2010. But things will eventually swing back, likely in 2012 and 2014 when the Dems have to defend their recent gains.

[DaddyTorgo]

lol - bill bennett has to take off at 11, it's his bedtime

[Tigercat]

Holy Hoosiers batman! Obama leads in Indiana! (for now... by 8k with 94% in)

[Galaxy]

No Erica Hill on CNN tonight? I would like to be in the middle of an Erica Hill-Campbell Brown sandwich.

[Lathum]

CNN just called Virginia for Obama

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by Galaxy

No Erica Hill on CNN tonight? I would like to be in the middle of an Erica Hill-Campbell Brown sandwich.

mmmm absolutely

think i have time to go have a little alone time with that thought before they call this thing?

[Galaxy]

CNN calls Virginia for Obama. 220 plus the 55 votes from California gives him 275. It's over.

[Tigercat]

Networks calling Virginia might mean they call the election in 30 seconds with California for Obama.

[Vegas Vic]

Originally Posted by Galaxy

CNN calls Virginia for Obama. 220 plus the 55 votes from California gives him 275. It's over.

This is huge for any student of politics. Virginia hasn't voted for a Democrat in 44 years, when LBJ beat Barry Goldwater.

[Galaxy]

CNN called it. Obama is the man.

[DaddyTorgo]

CNN calls it for Obama

[sabotai]

Originally Posted by Galaxy

No Erica Hill on CNN tonight? I would like to be in the middle of an Erica Hill-Campbell Brown sandwich.

CNBC - Maria Bartiromo and Michelle Caruso-Cabrera. I'd love to get me in the middle of that.

[Greyroofoo]

MSNBC called the race for Obama

[SirFozzie]

They're calling it!

[Flasch186]

Ill wait for MBBF's poll of polls.

[Lathum]

CNN calls it for Obama

[lordscarlet]

NBC called it.

[Young Drachma]

Watching this is like watching another city's team celebrate a championship.

[BYU 14]

Game, set, match!

[Vegas Vic]

Originally Posted by Galaxy

CNN called it. Obama is the man.

And for the first time I can recall in television history, they didn't announce the president elect's full name when he went over the top.

[JonInMiddleGA]

These here interwebz are pretty cool things.

My TV (here in the basement) has stayed on a marathon of Dirty Jobs all evening.

I've checked 5 mins or less of TV coverage a few times tonight when delivering local results to my wife but otherwise I've pulled everything I needed from online. And there's a wealth of resources that I could have used that I didn't even bother with, it's not like I wrung everything I could out of it.

[cuervo72]

Originally Posted by Galaxy

No Erica Hill on CNN tonight? I would like to be in the middle of an Erica Hill-Campbell Brown sandwich.

Hey, ain't nothing wrong with Soledad.

[Flasch186]

nice final stab by VV.

[sterlingice]

Hell, Comedy Central just called it

SI

[MrDNA]

How the heck do they call this now? I seriously don't understand how it works. I'm not celebrating until this stuff is on lockdown. I'm a Browns fan - it ain't over until it's double zeroes for me.

[Vegas Vic]

Originally Posted by Flasch186

nice final stab by VV.

I called this days ago. Why do you guys think that a long standing tradition was broken tonight? Political correctness?

[Young Drachma]

These throngs of happy black people can't be quelling the fears of white people who thought black folks were gonna take over the country now.

lol

[Flasch186]

dont want to show his true muslimism.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by BishopMVP

Or they could go back to running as fiscal conservatives, which is what led to Reagan's dominant victories and the huge 1994 sweep.

You'd have enjoyed the young Rep from Wisconsin, Ryan, on FXNC a little while ago I imagine.

I liked the fact that he at least seemed to have some spirit about him & talked about the need to start standing for things again. Even if the stands he chooses aren't the ones I'd prefer, at least he seemed like an (R) that still had a pair. And that was a damned nice change of pace to see/hear.

[cartman]

I would guess that less than 20% of the electorate can say without looking what McCain's middle name is. (Sidney)

[Coffee Warlord]

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

These throngs of happy black people can't be quelling the fears of white people who thought black folks were gonna take over the country now.

lol

I keep getting images of the movie Head of State, with the million California yuppies screaming and sprinting to the polls.

[DaddyTorgo]

eh, it's a huge moment for black americans, let them have their moment. you see plenty of white people celebrating too

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by MrDNA

How the heck do they call this now? I seriously don't understand how it works.

Unlike football, there's only a finite number of "points" (electoral votes) available. Once you have locked up more than half of them, it's over. All that's left at that point is the final score.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

you see plenty of white people celebrating too

Proving once & for all that P.T. Barnum was correct.

[Noop]

[Swaggs]

AP calls Florida for Obama now, too.

[Groundhog]

youporn.com just called it.

[Cringer]

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

These throngs of happy black people can't be quelling the fears of white people who thought black folks were gonna take over the country now.

lol

Minutes before everyone started calling it, the guys on Comedy Central were joking about "the black guys on their shows" taking over the hosting duties now that Obama would be President.

[Vegas Vic]

Originally Posted by cartman

I would guess that less than 20% of the electorate can say without looking what McCain's middle name is. (Sidney)

Perhaps.

But I can guarantee you, if McCain had gone over the top tonight, the call would have been "John Sidney McCain has just been elected the 44th president of the United States".