Console Discussion/E3/Tokyo Game Show Thread

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Widespread engineering issue appearing with the Xbox One. Complaints that the disc drives are failing. Just a quick search of YouTube will find slews of videos on the issue. Here's just a sampling, but it appears to be a bit more than just an occasional failure. There's already two reports over on Neogaf of people who had one fail, went and got a replacement and had the same thing happen with the replacement. MS support is currently telling most users that they need to clean the disc and try again.

Xbox One Disc Drive Issues are Real. I Know, I'm Having Them - VGU

Xbox One Early Adopters Report Problems With Faulty Disc Drive

Broken Xbox One disc drive - YouTube

Xbox ONE - Day one - YouTube

Microsoft - XboxOne - BROKEN DISC SLOT DRIVE / TRAY - YouTube

Xbox One - Day One Disc Drive broken - YouTube

IMG 21121 - YouTube

Broken Xbox One (Day One Edition) - YouTube

Broken Xbox One.. - YouTube

Xbox One Fail - YouTube

Xbox One Ultimate Fail! Microsoft should be ashamed of themselves. - YouTube

Xbox one defect. Disk tray problem - YouTube

Xbox One Disc Failure - YouTube

XBOX ONE HARDWARE / DISC DRIVE FAILURE - YouTube

Xbox ONE - Day One v2.0 - YouTube

Amazon currently has nearly as many one star reviews as they do good reviews. Most identify the disc drive issue as the culprit.

Amazon.com: Customer Reviews: Xbox One Console - Day One Edition

Also, some of MS's cloud services are currently not accessible in Europe.

Xbox One site TITSUP in GLOBAL Microsoft cloud disaster • The Register

[spleen1015]

ROFL.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Sony reports that most of launch failures were on shipped PS4 units. Like I mentioned before, always better to buy retail if you can with electronics. Even ship-to-store is better than home delivery. Far less chance of things getting jostled around when they're on a pallet.

Sony Said PlayStation 4 Units Reportedly Damaged in Shipping - Bloomberg

[Kodos]

I'm sure he went to such great effort to find PS4 problems as well.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Originally Posted by Kodos

I'm sure he went to such great effort to find PS4 problems as well.

It honestly didn't take that much effort at all. There's a thread in Neogaf and a thread on the Xbox One support forums.

I just included the Amazon review link because I found out on this forum that those reviews are mostly legitimate.

[mckerney]

That's it ladies and gentleman, threads over. MBBF has called it. XBox One (more like 180, amirite?) = DED CONSOLE and the PS4 is the clear victor.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Originally Posted by mckerney

That's it ladies and gentleman, threads over. MBBF has called it. XBox One (more like 180, amirite?) = DED CONSOLE and the PS4 is the clear victor.

I'm surprised that you're so dismissive of the problems noted here. Wasn't that way a week ago.

[mckerney]

Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

I'm surprised that you're so dismissive of the problems noted here. Wasn't that way a week ago.

Huh? Pretty sure I was dismissive of the launch issues with some PS4s being any sort of a big issue.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Originally Posted by mckerney

Huh? Pretty sure I was dismissive of the launch issues with some PS4s being any sort of a big issue.

So you believe this isn't an issue either than, correct?

[INDalltheway]

Hey Mizzou -- could you provide another link? I don't think you cited enough in the post above.

[CleBrownsfan]

Geez - aren't we all a little too old for these sort of console war arguments?! What's really the point?

[BYU 14]

Originally Posted by CleBrownsfan

Geez - aren't we all a little too old for these sorts of console war arguments?! What's really the point?

This had to be said

[Neuqua]

I legit giggled clicking this thread this morning.

[mckerney]

Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

So you believe this isn't an issue either than, correct?

Aside from it sucking for people who got a defective console I haven't seen anything that would indicate it's a serious issue with the XBox One's reliability.

[MJ4H]

hahaha oh man this is awesome

[cartman]

You can actually HEAR the cognitive dissonance. It is quite breathtaking to behold.

[Butter]

OK, I know what this is, but had to look it up to read more about it:

Originally Posted by Wikipedia on "cognitive dissonance"

Other related phenomena

Cognitive dissonance has also been demonstrated to occur when people seek to:

Reaffirm already held beliefs:
Congeniality bias (also referred to as Confirmation Bias) refers to how people read or access information that affirms their already established opinions, rather than referencing material that contradicts them.[24] For example, a person who is politically conservative might only read newspapers and watch news commentary that is from conservative news sources. This bias appears to be particularly apparent when faced with deeply held beliefs, i.e., when a person has 'high commitment' to their attitudes.

What about "crazy, insane" commitment?

[Kodos]

The MBBF-Free Console Discussion Thread - Front Office Football Central

[Logan]

LOL.

[MizzouRah]

Originally Posted by INDalltheway

Hey Mizzou -- could you provide another link? I don't think you cited enough in the post above.

Who takes him seriously anymore.. I mean who really clicks on anything he posts or gives it more than 2 seconds of their time?

I'm still laughing at this post.. well done, bravo sir!

[MizzouRah]

Originally Posted by Kodos

The MBBF-Free Console Discussion Thread - Front Office Football Central

Finally!

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

The good news is that there are apparantly still Xbox One's in stock at some local retailers. Target, Wal-Mart, and Best Buy all still have them in my area. Sounds like some of you are interested, so it's probably worth a call.

I'm sure we'll hear that the problem is less than 1% in the days to come. MS has to be kicking themselves to have a second straight launch with disc drive issues.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

dola

This has to be the least surprising announcement thus far. PS4/Vita bundle coming to the UK. I mentioned it was a natural progression a month or two ago. A bit surprised that it's so soon.

Vita/PS4 'Ultimate' bundle in-bound this year | Games industry news | MCV

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

double dola

EA FINALLY fixed some of the crashes on Battlefield 4. Reports that people are finally able to play the 64 player conquest games. Can't wait to get home and try it out.

http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4...5219650959667/

[mckerney]

Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

The good news is that there are apparantly still Xbox One's in stock at some local retailers. Target, Wal-Mart, and Best Buy all still have them in my area. Sounds like some of you are interested, so it's probably worth a call.

I'm sure we'll hear that the problem is less than 1% in the days to come. MS has to be kicking themselves to have a second straight launch with disc drive issues.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Originally Posted by mckerney

I believe your rolleyes has a clicking sound in it.

[Radii]

Originally Posted by Radii

I really don't disagree with MBBF on how serious the PS4 issues are right now. From what I've read I am not seeing a huge deal. The main thing though, is for everyone to save that post to throw in his face when there are some Xbox One RROD's on release and he is in here non stop linking to all the shit that exaggerates any xbox issues that might occur.

They will both be fine, it sucks for those that bought them on release day and had a problem, but that's about it IMO.

I'm not exactly a prophet given how obvious this was, but I'm going to go ahead and quote myself and declare myself the winner anyway.

[Kodos]

Radii: The Man Who Saw Tomorrow!

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Originally Posted by Radii

I'm not exactly a prophet given how obvious this was, but I'm going to go ahead and quote myself and declare myself the winner anyway.

You predicted the obvious. Congrats on that.

Anyone who thought that there wouldn't be issues with either console was fooling themselves. The only difference is that MBBF did it this week as opposed to everyone else last week. I totally agree with you.

[cartman]

Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

You predicted the obvious. Congrats on that.

Anyone who thought that there wouldn't be issues with either console was fooling themselves. The only difference is that MBBF did it this week as opposed to everyone else last week. I totally agree with you.

Ahem.

Re: The PS4

Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

That's not an issue, that's a usual console launch. FWIW, the Amazon shipments do appear to be the main concern. Lots of reports of people having ill-packaged consoles, which obviously would be a big problem and would cause failure rates to go up quite a bit.

I'm sure there are some defects here and there, but I think we'll find this is largely not an issue.

Re: The Xbox One

Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

Widespread engineering issue appearing with the Xbox One.

[Logan]

I think you were too subtle.

MBBF: You called this a WIDESPREAD ENGINEERING ISSUE with Microsoft after saying it usually happens with a console launch re: PS4.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Originally Posted by Logan

I think you were too subtle.

MBBF: You called this a WIDESPREAD ENGINEERING ISSUE with Microsoft after saying it usually happens with a console launch re: PS4.

Sure. I've learned all those skills right here in this thread from about a week ago.

-Post links showing problems. Emphasis that they're big.
-Cite Amazon reviews showing how widespread they are despite no purchase verification system.
-Minimize the issue if it's the system you prefer.

FOFC taught me everything I know.

FWIW......As I noted, I'm sure this will just be 1% of all consoles. Sony has confirmed that most of their release malfunctions were due to shipped units. I'm sure we'll hear in a week that it's the same with the Xbox One.

[Logan]

So you're saying you were joking with that line?

[INDalltheway]

It's getting silly at this point

[mckerney]

WIDESPREAD ENGINEERING ISSUE

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Originally Posted by Logan

So you're saying you were joking with that line?

I've NEVER been known to stir the pot before. Or anyone else for that matter.

The links speak for themselves. The rest of it you may want to take with a grain of salt.

[cartman]

I'll give MBBF credit. Those were a lot of links to copy and paste while typing one-handed.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Originally Posted by cartman

I'll give MBBF credit. Those were a lot of links to copy and paste while typing one-handed.

It's similar to typing with both hands while blowing Deloss Dodds, right?

[Kodos]

Originally Posted by cartman

I'll give MBBF credit. Those were a lot of links to copy and paste while typing one-handed.

"THIS... IS... MY... DAY!!!!"

[chadritt]

wait...does mbbf NOT work for sony?

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Originally Posted by chadritt

wait...does mbbf NOT work for sony?

Sure I do. I'm the guy they show at the end of the official PS4 unboxing video.

[cartman]

Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

It's similar to typing with both hands while blowing Deloss Dodds, right?

Not sure what an university athletic director has to do with Sony or Microsoft, but I guess when you've got nothing, that is your place of refuge.

[Logan]

And what would be so wrong about cartman if he were attracted to DeLoss Dodds and wanted to perform an act upon him?

Bigot.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Originally Posted by cartman

Not sure what an university athletic director has to do with Sony or Microsoft, but I guess when you've got nothing, that is your place of refuge.

About as much as a masturbating post in a console thread. Once again, I learn a lot from FOFC.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

mckerney, I know you did an eyeroll when I mentioned the consoles being in stock. You can use this link to verify availability. I did a search on my zip code and found 15 of 20 nearby stores that had consoles in stock. Just click on the 'find in a store' link. They're allowing local pickup if you want to buy them online. Note that this is the standard X1 and not the Day One version that had restricted quantity. Also should note that stock updates every hour, so it's not real-time.

Xbox One Standard Edition Console : Target

MizzouRah, the Gamestop in downtown STL still has 11 X1's in stock if interested.

[INDalltheway]

I called two Targets in my area that say the Xbone is "in stock" on their website and both stores didn't have it.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Originally Posted by INDalltheway

I called two Targets in my area that say the Xbone is "in stock" on their website and both stores didn't have it.

Would be interested to see how many they started with this morning. I called one that said they had 8 to start and they sold out. Another had six and still had two left about an hour ago.

[cartman]

Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

Would be interested to see how many they started with this morning. I called one that said they had 8 to start and they sold out. Another had six and still had two left about an hour ago.

Originally Posted by cartman

3:37pm 11/6 - Got a call from a Kansas City area code asking me about pre-order ratios. I said, lemme see. (counting PS4 pre-orders out loud) 1,2,3,4,5,6, and 7 for PS4. (counting Xbox One preorders) Fpr the Xbox One, let's see. 1, and before I could continue, he cut me off and said, 'Ok, 7 to 1 ratio in favor of Sony. Thanks!'.

3:54pm 11/6 - Got a call again from the KC area code. This time asking me if PS Vita games can be played on the Xbox One. Told him no, that is only on PlayStations. He said "Another check mark for Sony!" then hung up.

4:17pm 11/6 - Got calls from three separate Toys R Us locations, two Best Buys, a Target, and Fry's Electronics, asking if I've been getting strange calls regarding the PS4 from a number in Kansas City.

And here I was thinking it was just a joke.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Originally Posted by cartman

And here I was thinking it was just a joke.

It's a slow afternoon. People will start drinking tonight and then I'll expect you to make the calls.

[mckerney]

Originally Posted by INDalltheway

I called two Targets in my area that say the Xbone is "in stock" on their website and both stores didn't have it.

[MBBF]Perhaps that Target is using the Kinect to automate incoming calls as it misunderstood you.[/MBBF]