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08-24-2008, 01:34 PM | #952 | |
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08-24-2008, 01:35 PM | #953 |
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honestly - rhythmic gymnastics isn't a horrible waste of time - it's kind of impressive how they fling the objects around and catch them with their feet and stuff.
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And yes, you did come around as being a bit sour after a loss, the dutch commentary kept telling how he felt the Americans were the ones getting the tougher calls against them. Now, I'm not a basketball expert by any means, so I'm not going to claim who's right and who isn't, but we all know that feeling of disappointment after our team just lost a close game to a stronger opponent.
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08-24-2008, 03:30 PM | #955 |
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That was a great game.
Regarding the officiating, the referees were all swallowing their whistles. It was probably the most physical basketball game of the entire olympics, what with everyone flying all over the court and only the tippy-tappy fouls being called. They let the players decide the game between themselves, and if it were not for team USA's cohesiveness, they might as well have collapsed and gone one-on-one against the exceedingly physical Spain zone. Instead, Kobe and the gang moved the ball and made the extra pass, getting those valuable hoops from Deron Williams and Dwight Howard in the final minutes. That four-pt play from Kobe and the three from Wade pretty much sealed the deal. It's great to be able to see the other international stars compete pre-NBA. There are going to be a lot of expectations from Marc Gasol, Rudy Fernandez, and Ricky Rubio now.
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08-24-2008, 03:56 PM | #956 | |
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I think Phelps, plus the fact that people can DVR AND all of the online coverage, makes these far more conducive to conversation.
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08-24-2008, 04:21 PM | #957 | |
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Yeah it was his direct attack what surprised me, as i don't recall to have ever talked with him about anything, even less about referees or basketball. Seems he was just waiting for an Spanish to post about the game. Good to know he is this way with more people, next time i won't even lose my time arguing. About the referees, i guess everybody has an opinion and being the team that lost, everything we say sounds like crying and could be true, i admit it, i was pissed as i think we almost pulled the miracle vs a superior team. It was nice to feel we could beat them and to show that the past game losing by over 30, was not a real reflect of both teams level.
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08-24-2008, 05:32 PM | #958 | |
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You should check out the NCAA Tournament threads around here. I assure you those insults are not strictly reserved for the Europeans on the board. |
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08-24-2008, 05:35 PM | #959 | |
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I'm glad you and others pointed out that NBC's coverage has improved over the last couple Olympics,that is probably the main reason i gave it a shot at all this year. I still only watched maybe 5-7 hours total, but I did make time to watch some stuff which I haven't done at all the last 8 years, and I thoroughly enjoyed what I did watch. |
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08-24-2008, 06:02 PM | #960 |
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For me it was the ability to watch stuff online that helped get me more into the olympics this year. If Athens or Sydney had this possible, I just wasn't aware. After watching a few days of stuff online, I got more hooked and ended up watching virtually every day on tv after that.
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08-24-2008, 06:31 PM | #961 | |
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Honestly, I don't think anyone in the entire Olympics acted like more of a bitch than Dwight Howard. I used to really like Dwight, but that's dropped off a bit now. It pains me as a Cavs fan, but LeBron wasn't much better. LeBron and Dwight Howard would be first teamers on the All-Scowl team. Having said that, the rest of Team USA were great - Kobe and Wade in particular.
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08-24-2008, 06:39 PM | #962 | |
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Our coverage of the games was abysmal over here in Australia... Unless you like swimming heats!!! We had a commercial station as the major broadcaster, and we often only saw snippets of events (if we saw them at all), and during the basketball (and many other events) they'd just cut to a break as the action was still going. Yesterday during the 4th Q of the basketball final they cut to the half hour NEWS with 8 minutes left in the 4th Q and Spain closing in. To make matters worse, most of the US/English streaming sites blocked foreign addresses, so that wasn't an option either. Thankfully I found a few Euro channels that streamed games. Watching Spain-Greece with Spanish commentators was arguably the highlight of the games for me (TRIPLEY TRIPLEY TRIPLEY TRIPLEY!!!!!)
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08-24-2008, 07:09 PM | #963 | |
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08-24-2008, 07:09 PM | #964 |
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not sure I ever had one to begin with
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I think it was bigger this year because NBC loosened up their grip. The online coverage was great and they actually had a ton of TV coverage too. If I remember correctly, Athens didn't have nearly the same coverage.
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The basketball tournement on a whole was much more physical than in years past IMO.
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Definately. I think the rest of the world are starting to value power players in the post now, as opposed to purely finesse bigs - strangely enough, it's just as the US is moving away from that.
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08-24-2008, 08:42 PM | #968 | |
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08-24-2008, 08:49 PM | #969 | |
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In '04 this was still a FOF forum. Now we have a large portion here that just want to interact with people, which isn't a bad thing. I mean, just pick a tv show. Look how many people came to this forum to talk about Lost. This site is more a community on just about any subject available. There is also a large segment of our population that will talk about what is "it" at the moment as if they have spent their whole life waiting for it.
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08-24-2008, 08:51 PM | #970 | |
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I agree that this community is now as you describe. I disagree that it wasn't that way in '04.
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08-24-2008, 08:54 PM | #971 | |
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Really? I may not be the representative voice on this, I guess. but what does that have to do with the watchability or interest level? I mean -- I guess China invested more in arenas and so forth, and I suppose that makes some difference for things like the opening or closing ceremonies (that I don't watch anyhow) but I can't see any of that making a difference in whether I watch a given event. I did watch a good bit more of these Olympics than the last two, though. Maybe I did fall prey to some sinister sinoplot that I didn't even realize. *shurg* |
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08-24-2008, 08:54 PM | #972 | |
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I am pretty sure Dwight while on the bench does not argue with the refs and throws towels and look totally unprofessional.
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08-24-2008, 09:01 PM | #973 | |
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Can you honestly tell me that the Houston Dynamo or New England Revolution would not beat Hull, Stoke City, or WBA?
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08-24-2008, 09:03 PM | #974 | |
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I don't think it's a given that they would. Would they likely, yes. But they also could quite possibly not.
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08-24-2008, 09:28 PM | #975 |
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I can vouch for this, he never had one to begin with. Sup DT |
08-24-2008, 09:40 PM | #976 |
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Not too much - hangin round. Taking vacation this coming week, so that's definitely nice - should be around.
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08-24-2008, 09:49 PM | #977 |
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So is the IOC going to do anything about the underage girls on the Chinese team or just close their eyes like they did with the human rights stuff?
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08-25-2008, 12:13 AM | #979 |
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Best Olympics ever. From the opening ceremonies to the five HD Olympics channels available on FIOS, to Phelps, to Bolt, to my DVR, to Internet feeds, to Nastia Liukin, to Misty and Kerry - just an incredible two week smorgasbord of complete freaking awesomeness.
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Really don't know, don't see much footage of the benches outside of incidental stuff during the games. I'm more interested in how much of a punk he looked like on the court - like palming Pau in the face as they ran up court, for one, or pushing and scowling at some chump from Angola, who was just going for a loose ball under the basket. For the vast majority of players on Team USA, they had none of the arrogance and ... well... poor attitude that has earnt them so much scorn in the past from the other players and spectators. It was only Dwight and, to a lesser extent, LeBron who had that air about them from what I saw. The same can not be said for the USA women (yes, I'm looking at you Lisa "three gold" Leslie ).
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08-25-2008, 01:37 AM | #981 |
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Thankfully I can now go back to not rooting for Kobe, Wade, Bosh, Kidd and several other d-bags on team USA.
Im really glad Kobe decided to play though, as I doubt they win without him. |
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I hear that. I had a lot more fun watching Kobe and DWade play D than I did watching the endless highlight reel of amazing dunks and acrobatic layups Team USA ran off each game.
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Call it blinded nationalism all you want. I had a lot of fun and pride watching this version of Team USA play. To me, I can defintely say we weren't the world leaders in the arrogance dept. this time around. In fact, on more than a few occassions, I think Team USA were "punked" and I was pleasantly surprised with their non-reaction.
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I'm sad the Olympics are over.
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I probably could've done without the taunting by Kobe and Wade in the final minutes. Act like professionals, though I guess in the NBA that sort of thing is par for the course.
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08-25-2008, 07:48 AM | #987 | |
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Ah, see, we missed the last 8 minutes thanks to our outstanding coverage, so I didn't get to see that.
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I am assuming you meant the finger to the mouth after Kobe's four point play and the same after Wade's three with about 2 minutes left, playing to the Spanish who were as intense as always. Of course, no mention of similar acts by the Spanish team throughout the game. Those actions were okay because they aren't supposed to act like "professionals".
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08-25-2008, 08:06 AM | #989 | |
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The US actions in that game were tame compared to the Spanish. Their bench was warned on several occasions for complaining and they twice threw towels onto the court of play DURING the game. Even more amusing was when the Spanish were complaining about two of their players getting in foul trouble in the first quarter when Kobe and LeBron were already on the bench in the first quarter with 2 fouls each. They were evidently oblivious to the fact that the refs were making ridiculously lousy calls on both ends. |
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Honestly, I don't even mean it as a criticism of the Spanish team. I just get tired of the double standards that is all.
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I would guess (and it is only a guess) that it was more a result of paying more attention to your own team rather than an actual double standard. I noticed the USA tauntung much more than anything Spain did because I was paying more attention to them. Might not be the case here, though, just a possible alternate explanation.
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I was going to mention the Italy-like flopping of the Spanish players, but I figured that was to be expected as the US were clearly more physical. But seriously, act like you've been there before.
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Call it the 'soccerization' of European basketball. There were several times during the tournament that I saw a European player go down like someone had just shot them. I actually saw one player grab their knee and start rolling around in pain, only to stand up seconds later and inbound the ball without any noticable limp. I agree with MJ4H's assessment that it was mainly noticed because people were paying more attentiont to the US players. I'm not a huge fan of the NBA at all, but I thought the US players were pretty well behaved in comparison to the antics of some of their opponents. |
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I go back to what JIMGA said about the gymnastics team.
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Yeah, team argentina was especially made up of guys that dive like footballers. Manu is the worst flopper in the NBA, outside of maybe Varejao. I like Andy though and he plays for my fave team, but he's a diver. Especially in 5 foul basketball, which is just an insanely small amount of fouls for how physical the game can get. |
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