Survivor: New Helsing Tribal Thread

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by Grammaticus

Do you think the Tribal Council votes are secret?

From the talk of the LUpus guys, it didnt seem like they knew who voted for whom.

[Alan T]

At least so far. It might be revealed after 10pm to them though.

[Lathum]

So do you think we caused the last minute snafu?

[Alan T]

I doubt it. I bet someone just added wrong and had $30 or something in their bid.

[Alan T]

By the way, I would like to go on record that since Barkeep said in the start the only thing that matters is post count, the first tribe to 1000 points should win a reward challenge!

[SnDvls]

our bid was not the SNAFU he was refering to

[SnDvls]

but maybe we caused it ....I hope

[Alan T]

Nice job guys, very well done!

Props to Lathum for suggesting the trial run that we did, and nice thinking to Sndvls for the best bids.

Everyone else did great in tossing about suggestions. I'm having alot of fun playing on a team with you all!

[SnDvls]

oh hell ya

[Barkeep49]

Make sure to have your question in to me, via PM, by 9 AM.

[SnDvls]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Since information is life in this game the winning tribe will gain some new information. Each player on the winning tribe will get to ask, via PM, one of the following questions:
How many wolves are on tribe X?
How many wolves are in the game?
Does player X have an idol?
What was the vote total of tribe council for Tribe X? (For Lupus must chose one of their two tribal councils)
What will be the reward at tomorrow's challenge?

Survivors ready? GO!

here's the questions if anyone needs them

should we all decide to ask a different one?

[Alan T]

Yes, I think we should spread them out so we dont end up doubling up on questions.

Lets have everyone pick one they want to ask.

We should also decide which player we want to ask about having an idol I suppose.

I'll take the question "How many wolves are on tribe X" if thats ok with you all?

I plan on using it probably on Lupus, seems like with them having only 3 players it is a good place to narrow down if there is a wolf or not.

[SnDvls]

we won by 20 points too...and could have won by 30

hey a win is a win too...thanks for accepting me in guys

[SnDvls]

fine with me alan

I'll take how many wolves are there?

[Alan T]

Actually some of those questions are worthless... Who cares what tommorrow's reward challenge is. We will find out anyways..
Why dont we find out how many wolves ar eon more teams?

[Alan T]

I think we should do the following:

How many wolves are on tribe X? Ask about all 4 tribes
Does player X have an idol? - 2 different players


What was the vote total of tribe council for Tribe X? (For Lupus must chose one of their two tribal councils) - NOONE
What will be the reward at tomorrow's challenge? - NOONE
How many wolves are in the game? - NOONE

[SnDvls]

Originally Posted by Alan T

Actually some of those questions are worthless... Who cares what tommorrow's reward challenge is. We will find out anyways..
Why dont we find out how many wolves ar eon more teams?

I could care less about tomorrow's reward...unless it is secret, but at some point everyone will know that.

[Alan T]

since there is 6 of us, 4 of us can take a tribe each (Including our own) and we'll know how many wolves there are. Then the other 2 take players asking if they have an idol?

[Alan T]

Or actually.. why do we care if they have an idol?

[SnDvls]

only lupas has an idol correct?

[Alan T]

maybe 4 of us ask how many wolves in each of the 4 tribes, and then the other 2 find out info on tribal voting for two different tribes?

[SnDvls]

well I think we should know the total number of wolves to help keep checks and balances on ourselves.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by SnDvls

only lupas has an idol correct?

Well blade hinted they passed them to Oz, which could be bogus or who knows.. But thinking about it.. why does it matter to us who has the idol. us finding that out only helps the wolves probably..


I think we should do the following:

1) How many wolves in Lupus - Alan T
2) How many wolves in Helsing - ?
3) How many wolves in oz -
4) How many wolves in howard -

5) What was the tribal vote for tribe X
6) What was the tribal vote for tribe Y

[SnDvls]

looks like we scared Oz into changing some of their totals in the bidding

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by SnDvls

well I think we should know the total number of wolves to help keep checks and balances on ourselves.

Ok then 4 of us ask how many wolves in each tribe, 1 of us ask how many total wolves and then 1 ask about a tribal vote?

[Passacaglia]

Nice job, guys. Alan, my thoughts are on the same as yours -- find out how many wolves in each tribe. I would like to know if Blade has an idol -- or maybe if team Oz has them, like he said.

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by SnDvls

well I think we should know the total number of wolves to help keep checks and balances on ourselves.

If we ask about all 4 tribes including ours, we don't need to ask the total.

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by Alan T

Ok then 4 of us ask how many wolves in each tribe, 1 of us ask how many total wolves and then 1 ask about a tribal vote?

Not all 4 AND the total! That's redundant!

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

If we ask about all 4 tribes including ours, we don't need to ask the total.

I think sndvls point is a good one. We have to be honest with ourselves.. they likely is at least one wolf in our group. By asking for all four tribes as well as the total it adds checks and balances somewhat.

[Passacaglia]

Oh, I getcha -- that works for me.

[Alan T]

It is redundant, but thats the point. If a wolf asks about a tribe with 1 or 2 wolves in it, he could really skew the numbers on us. So by asking for a total as well as the four tribes it gives us the most needed info.. As well as helps tell us info about who in our tribe might be bad.

[Passacaglia]

I'll take whatever question no one else wants.

[Alan T]

Going with Sndvls suggestion plus my thoughts, perhaps this:

1) How many wolves in lupus - Alan
2) How many wolves in Helsing -
3) How many wolves in Oz -
4) how many wolves in Howard -
5) How many total wolves -
6) What was the tribal vote for tribe X -

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

I'll take whatever question no one else wants.

I would just pick one. its late and we dont have a ton of time for discussion before people head to bed tonight. If people really want the one you pick we can switch

[Passacaglia]

Reading the main thread now -- I'd like to think that my jumping to the wrong conclusion about ardent being the acrostic guy helped create lupus confusion -- nice!

[SnDvls]

Originally Posted by Alan T

Going with Sndvls suggestion plus my thoughts, perhaps this:

1) How many wolves in lupus - Alan
2) How many wolves in Helsing -
3) How many wolves in Oz -
4) how many wolves in Howard -
5) How many total wolves -
6) What was the tribal vote for tribe X -

put me down for total wolves

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by Alan T

I would just pick one. its late and we dont have a ton of time for discussion before people head to bed tonight. If people really want the one you pick we can switch

I'll be in at 8:30 Eastern time, so I can pop in here...eh, I'll just take Helsing. Should we have a coordinated "reveal time" or anything?

[SnDvls]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

I'll be in at 8:30 Eastern time, so I can pop in here...eh, I'll just take Helsing. Should we have a coordinated "reveal time" or anything?

I like this idea too

I'll be on 9 or 9:30 eastern at the soonest

[Alan T]

I think just saying in this thread in the morning what you find is fine. Chances are we have 1 or at most 2 wolves.. so we will still get good information about 2-3 tribes I think if not more.

So updated list:

Lupus - Alan
Helsing - Pass
Oz -
Howard -
Total wolves - Sndvls
Tribal vote for team X =

What team do we care about the team vote for? Maybe have 2 people do one of the above votes instead?

[Passacaglia]

Swaggs said Blade did more harm by thinking out loud for his tribe...I'd like to think I played a hand in egging him on!

[Passacaglia]

Do we really care about a tribal vote? Maybe we should just have another Helsing check?

[SnDvls]

find out about Howard since Lupus is pretty much toast anyhow

[Alan T]

Maybe have the 6th voter be someone who will randomly pick one of the other 5 votes to double up and not say which one until after the rest of us reveal?

[Alan T]

I think I like this best:

Lupus - Alan
Helsing - Pass
Oz - ?
Howard - ?
Total wolves - Sndvls
Random voter - ? (doesnt say which they are taking until after the rest of us reveal in the morning)

[SnDvls]

do we want to share this info right away with everyone or keep it to ourselves.

for example if we find out that OZ has 2 wolves do we want to watch their play to see if we can figure out who they are?

[SnDvls]

I vote keep it to ourselves at first

[SnDvls]

Originally Posted by SnDvls

I vote keep it to ourselves at first

I'm talking about as a tribe keep it to ourselves as a tribe and not share with other tribes...just to clarify

[Alan T]

well lets immediately discuss it amongst ourselves. once we have the info we can decide if/when to release it to the public. Right now I dont see the harm in it right away, but lets talk about that in the morning maybe?

I hope Gramm and Mr.W come around tonight to pick questions.

[SnDvls]

alright I sent mine I'm out for the night

[Alan T]

Lathum, you have any thoughts?