NFL Week 6

[BishopMVP]

Originally Posted by Butter

Gronkowski taunts Bengals on back to back plays, including the sideline, then gets angry when he gets flagged on his third taunt.

Was coaching during the game, but he hates low hits because of how many (legal ones) he takes and how he blew out his knee, and Burfict is doing this. I assume the two parts are related.

Will D. on Twitter: "Vontaze Burfict going low on Bennett. Seemed unnecessary but what do I know. #Patriots https://t.co/4DWnqa76TD"

[jbergey22]

Originally Posted by bhlloy

One would almost say franchise ruining bad. Hopefully that contract is at least team friendly after a few years. He might have a decent arm and be really tall but he doesn't look like an NFL QB in any other way

The oddity of NFL GMs, 9 out of 10 of us on this board would have predicted he was a fluke and would never be worth the money he is making. How many times can NFL GMs keep falling into the same traps (Scott Mitchell, Matt Flynn, Derek Anderson, Matt Cassel)?

[Dutch]

Originally Posted by cuervo72

I was listening to PHI/WAS on the radio and out of frustration/disgust uttered "I guess they want WAS to win this one" when getting out of the car after hearing yet another flag called on PHI (don't worry, I was in the driveway and stationary -- I wasn't THAT disgusted).

I suppose the Eagles might just be really undisciplined, but 14-111 last week and 13-114 this week? That ain't fun to follow.

This is me with the Bucs....oh, pretty much every year, every game. The truth is probably...

50% - bad teams are penalized more...
30% - good teams get the benefit of the doubt
10% - home teams get some benefit
10% - NFL wants certain teams to win

[Dutch]

Originally Posted by jbergey22

The oddity of NFL GMs, 9 out of 10 of us on this board would have predicted he was a fluke and would never be worth the money he is making. How many times can NFL GMs keep falling into the same traps (Scott Mitchell, Matt Flynn, Derek Anderson, Matt Cassel)?

To be fair, they showed his salary as $12M this year and the NFL average is $10M for starting QB's. So that didn't seem too far out of whack considering the Texans were desperate.

[Thomkal]

Turns out Big Ben was the most serious injury:

Ben Roethlisberger suffers torn meniscus in left knee - NFL.com

The Steelers have the Patriots next, so probably a good game to miss Then they have a bye. May be back for the next game against Baltimore the week after the bye, but if the injury is worse than expected once they get in there, he may be out for the season.

[Thomkal]

My beloved Cardinals have not beaten the pathetic Jets since 1975 (hard to believe I know.) Hopefully Palmer's return, playing at home, and possibly no Revis, will mean the end of that streak.

[Kodos]

If I'm the Cowboys, I let Romo continue to heal on the bench until Prescott falters.

[Dutch]

I am kind of under this idea that the future with Prescott is now. The experience he gains from continuing on as the starter benefits the Cowboys long-term. Romo is a shortsighted venture at this point.

[stevew]

Seems like if Ben is more hurt than they're letting onto, a Romo to the Steelers move might be an interesting trade opportunity for both teams.

[Thomkal]

Well so far the good Cardinals have shown up and the Jets look awful, penalties are killing them and really only have Marshall as a weapon. Cards lead 14-3.

[BishopMVP]

Originally Posted by BishopMVP

Was coaching during the game, but he hates low hits because of how many (legal ones) he takes and how he blew out his knee, and Burfict is doing this. I assume the two parts are related.

Will D. on Twitter: "Vontaze Burfict going low on Bennett. Seemed unnecessary but what do I know. #Patriots https://t.co/4DWnqa76TD"

Mike Reiss on Twitter: "Video: From coaches film (courtesy NFL), watch Vontaze Burfict (55) deliberately step on Blount's leg after TD. https://t.co/wtTPqy3XHP"

[bhlloy]

NFL needs to sort this refereeing out. Killing the game

[jbergey22]

What a find in David Johnson. Best back in the NFL right now.

[CrescentMoonie]

Originally Posted by jbergey22

What a find in David Johnson. Best back in the NFL right now.

Really? There's a guy with 4 straight games over 130 yards and he's not the best RB in the league? Elliot and McCoy both have more rushing yards more ypc than Johnson so far this season

[bhlloy]

Johnson has a game less and is averaging more yards from scrimmage per game. I think EZ-E and McCoy are better runners between the tackle, but for an all around back give me Johnson any day

[jbergey22]

Johnson receiving skills set him apart. He makes difficult catches and is so elusive on the outside. One of them picks that turned to gold for the Cards. PFF#2 back this year behind Bell.

[Butter]

Originally Posted by BishopMVP

Mike Reiss on Twitter: "Video: From coaches film (courtesy NFL), watch Vontaze Burfict (55) deliberately step on Blount's leg after TD. https://t.co/wtTPqy3XHP"

Not sure if anyone still cares, but do others agree that this video shows him deliberately stepping on Blount's leg?

[jbergey22]

Originally Posted by Butter

Not sure if anyone still cares, but do others agree that this video shows him deliberately stepping on Blount's leg?

Not sure what he is doing but he is up to something illegal. And with the reaction of the Pats players Id imagine it was stepping on Blount if that are the claims the Pats are making.

[Thomkal]

Originally Posted by jbergey22

What a find in David Johnson. Best back in the NFL right now.

Certainly one of the best. He's been a godsend for the Cards given their recent history with running backs. They key now is to keep him healthy. Nice to see Floyd get a TD after a slow start this year. Palmer still having problems going long though. They need to figure that out before going to Seattle next week. Jets just suck (sorry to any Jets fans on here) and happy that their season is basically over now.

[CrescentMoonie]

Originally Posted by bhlloy

Johnson has a game less and is averaging more yards from scrimmage per game. I think EZ-E and McCoy are better runners between the tackle, but for an all around back give me Johnson any day

Johnson's receiving stats are good, but both Elliot and McCoy have far less around them in the passing game.

Tyrod Taylor is 30th in the league in passing yards per game. The Bills top receiver is Robert Woods with 240 yards, good for 76th in the NFL. Even though he's got a 70+, and two 50+, reception years in the past, I don't see how McCoy could possibly rack up big numbers there.

It would be wise to keep DeMarco Murray in the discussion as well. Chip Kelly's incompetence is the primary reason why Murray has slipped out of the spotlight. Even Lamar Miller belongs in the discussion.

I just find it absurdly premature to call Johnson the best in the league as if there isn't a discussion to be had.

[jbergey22]

Tough to pass with slim not being able to pick up a blitz. Eazy E is in the discussion and is looking good but 6 games in. At 6 games Todd Gurley looked like the next Jim Brown. Lamar Miller is laughable if someone wants to compare him to the elite. Demarco is safely in that 2nd tier of NFL backs. Any team would love to have him but he doesnt have the elite skillset of the truly elite. Laveon Bell is certainly in the discussion but has been forgotten about because of suspension and injuries.

[jbergey22]

Originally Posted by Thomkal

Certainly one of the best. He's been a godsend for the Cards given their recent history with running backs. They key now is to keep him healthy. Nice to see Floyd get a TD after a slow start this year. Palmer still having problems going long though. They need to figure that out before going to Seattle next week. Jets just suck (sorry to any Jets fans on here) and happy that their season is basically over now.

I think the Cards are having a bit of an identity crisis right now. They like to throw the ball downfield and score points but on the other hand they dont want to waste a talent like Johnson by using him as a decoy. They are going to get better each game. Fun talented squad you have.

[stevew]

Originally Posted by BishopMVP

Was coaching during the game, but he hates low hits because of how many (legal ones) he takes and how he blew out his knee, and Burfict is doing this. I assume the two parts are related.

Will D. on Twitter: "Vontaze Burfict going low on Bennett. Seemed unnecessary but what do I know. #Patriots https://t.co/4DWnqa76TD"

Burfict is a piece of shit cheap ass player.

[Chief Rum]

To be fair, Gurley is running behind a shit line and a 10 yards deep QB.

I think Johnson is the best. The Bills passing issues would actually accentuate McCoy as a receiver, since he is actually Taylor's best option right now, so if Johnson is still out-receiving him, that says something. And Elliott is running behind the best line in the league.

[wustin]

Zeke is a better pure runner, reminds me of AP early in his career. David Johnson is a better pass catcher and better at protecting the pass. David reminds me a lot of LT and he also looks just like him.

http://i2.wp.com/rotoviz.com/wp-cont...ohnson_uni.jpg

[Butter]

Originally Posted by stevew

Burfict is a piece of shit cheap ass player.

Says the Steeler fan. I guess I should value your opinion considering you have rooted for some of the cheapest and shittiest of ass players over the years.

[Kodos]

Burfict is a cheap shot artist.

[Butter]

I just don't agree that the second video shows him "deliberately stepping on the leg" of Blount. But I have no excuse for the diving at Bennett's legs, for which he already apologized.

My main thing around Gronk was he was standing over an unrelated player and taunting him while on the ground. Then taunting people after the next play. Then taunting the bench. Then acted surprised when he got flagged. Not just surprised but agitated. No problem with him sticking up for Bennett, but you do it in such a fashion, you're getting a flag.

[BishopMVP]

Originally Posted by Butter

I just don't agree that the second video shows him "deliberately stepping on the leg" of Blount. But I have no excuse for the diving at Bennett's legs, for which he already apologized.

My main thing around Gronk was he was standing over an unrelated player and taunting him while on the ground. Then taunting people after the next play. Then taunting the bench. Then acted surprised when he got flagged. Not just surprised but agitated. No problem with him sticking up for Bennett, but you do it in such a fashion, you're getting a flag.

What alternative explanation do you have for Burfict high stepping back into the pile? If you're going back in to pull guys off, he'd be reaching down and extending his arms. I don't think the Bengals are a dirty team (and I loved watching last January's bodybag game as a neutral), but Burfict is a p.o.s. cheap shot artist, and that's true even if a Steelers fan is saying it. Some people just aren't worth defending.

Gronk is an oversized baby. Once it was us vs them he started taunting anyone wearing red, and I have no problem with the flag being thrown. But it all started with Burfict, he should've been thrown out of the game (and now suspended) for that hit, and given his history he can fuck off with apologies.

You take a cheap shot on the Pats Gronk is gonna chirp your entire franchise pic.twitter.com/IyoM42Er0c

— Barstool Sports (@barstooltweetss) October 16, 2016

[Butter]

I'm sure Burfict will be suspended again.

I don't know why he was going back into the pile. He could've been intending to help up someone else in the pile, but hadn't gotten there yet to his teammate. My only thing is that there is a referee standing right there looking at it who doesn't flag Burfict, but flags Blount (for obvious reasons). Perhaps Blount did get stepped on (I don't see a stomp) and took issue with it.

Probably rightfully so, considering Burfict's history.

Either way, one has to think that Burfict's time with the Bengals or even in the NFL could be drawing short if he keeps this stuff up.

[cuervo72]

While I hope for the day when the Patriots will go 2-14, every now and then I can't help but like Belichick a little bit.

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[jbergey22]

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[BishopMVP]

Originally Posted by Butter

I'm sure Burfict will be suspended again.

I don't know why he was going back into the pile. He could've been intending to help up someone else in the pile, but hadn't gotten there yet to his teammate. My only thing is that there is a referee standing right there looking at it who doesn't flag Burfict, but flags Blount (for obvious reasons). Perhaps Blount did get stepped on (I don't see a stomp) and took issue with it.

Probably rightfully so, considering Burfict's history.

Either way, one has to think that Burfict's time with the Bengals or even in the NFL could be drawing short if he keeps this stuff up.

Welp, apparently the NFL is back to needing conclusive evidence, and "more probable than not" is no longer the standard. Cincinnati Bengals coach Marvin Lewis defends LB Vontaze Burfict after fine

(And for the record, I thought the hit on Bennett was the much more dangerous one he should've been suspended for.)

[cartman]

Michael Irvin thinks 'dat boy run so good'...

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