College Football Official Week 4 Thread

[JonInMiddleGA]

Tennessee Tennessee'ing thus far at home.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Just under 45 minutes left for Tennessee to decide to show up.

Otherwise, it's going to get incredibly f'n hot (and deservedly so) in Knoxville in September.

There's a full house ready to cheer virtually anything good that happens. If something good doesn't happen soon, I expect the crowd to get exceptionally hostile.

[TroyF]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Just under 45 minutes left for Tennessee to decide to show up.

Otherwise, it's going to get incredibly f'n hot (and deservedly so) in Knoxville in September.

There's a full house ready to cheer virtually anything good that happens. If something good doesn't happen soon, I expect the crowd to get exceptionally hostile.

Yeah, this isn't just talent. At this point you can tell one team is ready to play, one team is well coached and one team came to win this game. Always a chance to turn it around, but this looks bad. (and this is coming from a third party with no vested interest in the game)

[TroyF]

Sorry Gary, you are one of my favorite announcers. But if Tennessee is playing this badly because they are nervous of the streak, then this is on the coach.

I know Dobbs gets a lot of crap, but the guy is doing everything he can to keep this team in the game. He even just blocked a defensive end. It would be incredibly helpful for the guy if his receivers actually decided to hold onto the ball.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Aspiring coaches, start preparing those resumes.

[tarcone]

I told you guys that Tennessee is over rated.
Talent running out their butts. But stupid and no heart.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by tarcone

I told you guys that Tennessee is over rated.
Talent running out their butts. But stupid and no heart.

I'll definitely challenge the amount of talent on the field today.

No OL worth a bucket of warm spit. Not a single damned one.
Receivers that are inconsistent at best.
Running backs, well, with no line I guess you give them an Incomplete for this year.

And a QB that's increasingly looking like some sort of head case. The only true talent on the damned field, but where is his head half the time?

Defensively? The two most legit players they have are both out with injury. After that, there ain't a helluva lot there either.

Throw in this mid-major staff and, well, this is what you get.

Barring what would now feel like a miracle, it's clearly & undeniable #FireButch time.

[CrescentMoonie]

Duke making that Texas win over ND look a lot less impressive.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by TroyF

Sorry Gary, you are one of my favorite announcers. But if...

Gary Danielson? Maybe I caught him on a bad day but he called one of the worst games I have heard an announcer do earlier this year with Texas A&M v UCLA. He doesn't have a clue up there.

[Brian Swartz]

For those who were able to watch it, I'm curious about the Wisconsin-Michigan State game. You can only tell so much from one contest, but I'm wondering the Badgers played that well or the Spartans that bad? Both teams have been up and down a lot going into this week.

[tarcone]

Wiscy is legit. Defense was very good. And they played Wiscy ball. And Wiscys QB is accurate.

MSU was always suspect in my mind. I think they were over rated somewhat.

Wiscy went in and curb stomped them. This was a no doubter.

[jbergey22]

Michigan State outgained Wisconsin. While the game was never in much doubt I think curb stomp is an exaggeration. Michigan State had too many turnovers and mistakes while the Wisconsin defense didnt allow Sparty to overcome them mistakes.

[jbergey22]

Not sure what it is about Jim Harbaugh but as a coach he has some magic. Instantly turned around a Stanford program that had struggled for years, took a mediocre talented 49ers team and made them Super Bowl contenders, and now seems to have finally brought Michigan back to the status they are familiar with.

[jbergey22]

And that stupid team with no heart takes the lead.

[mauchow]

Originally Posted by jbergey22

Michigan State outgained Wisconsin. While the game was never in much doubt I think curb stomp is an exaggeration. Michigan State had too many turnovers and mistakes while the Wisconsin defense didnt allow Sparty to overcome them mistakes.

They got beat pretty badly... O'Connor was shaky all game long thanks to Badger pressure.

They had about 140 yards going into the 4th quarter at which point the Badgers had already been on cruise control since the middle of the 3rd.

MSU gained over half their yards in the 4th quarter...when it was already over.

Did it have the feeling of a complete shellacking? Pretty close, more like a 27-9 feel but certainly not "closer than the score says".

[jbergey22]

Originally Posted by mauchow

They got beat pretty badly... O'Connor was shaky all game long thanks to Badger pressure.

They had about 140 yards going into the 4th quarter at which point the Badgers had already been on cruise control since the middle of the 3rd.

MSU gained over half their yards in the 4th quarter...when it was already over.

Did it have the feeling of a complete shellacking? Pretty close and certainly not "closer than the score says".

When I think of a curb stomping I think of 49-3 and yardage margins of like 400-500. To each his own. The game was never in doubt like you said.

[jbergey22]

Umm, Notre Dame in trouble at home to Duke! Speaking of overrated.

[TroyF]

Originally Posted by jbergey22

And that stupid team with no heart takes the lead.

I posted earlier, about well coached and unprepared. Even with this, I'll stick by that. That team was tight. They were unprepared. Florida came in with a backup QB and had a clear plan of what they wanted to do. The Vols were really that bad.

Yet. . . I think it's clear the players, especially that QB have heart. What a great 3 or 4 straight series Dobbs has had. Amazing.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by jbergey22

And that stupid team with no heart takes the lead.

It's amazing what showing up & appearing to realize that a game is underway can do.

I said they needed a miracle ... maybe they found one.

[jbergey22]

Originally Posted by TroyF

I posted earlier, about well coached and unprepared. Even with this, I'll stick by that. That team was tight. They were unprepared. Florida came in with a backup QB and had a clear plan of what they wanted to do. The Vols were really that bad.

Yet. . . I think it's clear the players, especially that QB have heart. What a great 3 or 4 straight series Dobbs has had. Amazing.

Wasnt talking about your post. They do like to start slow. Im kind of sick of the Tennessee bashing and overrated talk. They earned their ranking based on how they finished last season. Its not like the voters just suddenly decided to rank them in the top 10 to start the season because of their incredible talent level without anything to back it up. They ended last season as a very good team with much of it returning.

[TroyF]

Originally Posted by jbergey22

Wasnt talking about your post.

I know you weren't and I wasn't only responding to yours. (even though that's the one I quoted.)

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by TroyF

Yet. . . I think it's clear the players, especially that QB have heart. What a great 3 or 4 straight series Dobbs has had. Amazing.

And yet still has moments like hitting a LB in the back with a "what the hell is he DOING?" pass, in the middle of all that.

I'm not getting the sudden "OMG Dobbs has taken that step" vibe that the announcers (well, GD) is trying to sell frankly.

The first half drops were horrendous, but his other incompletions were some really bad passes. The difference here appears to be energy level as much as anything.

First Jennings showed a little life, then the defense showed some intensity, finally the rest of the offense seemed to catch on.

None of which takes away very legitimate questions about how they came out so putrid in the first place. Show up for the whole game & this might already be a laugher.

[CrescentMoonie]

Florida with 11 yards of offense in the 2nd half with 8:30ish to go. That's hard to do.

[tarcone]

Color me impressed. Tennessee sure is a strange team. Slow starting and then steam roll.

Hate the Unis though.

And ND loses to Duke and is 1-3. HAHA.

[tarcone]

Why? Why does the SEC schedule cream puffs? Mizzou is up 79-0. Really?

[tarcone]

And I cannot watch the SEC on ESPN. It is just unbearable. I will watch them on other stations, not ESPN.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by tarcone

Why? Why does the SEC schedule cream puffs? Mizzou is up 79-0. Really?

Same opponent plays West Virginia next season.

As to why?

-- They fell on the schedule between UGA and LSU.

-- They had 65,211 in attendance for a virtually impossible to lose game. That's almost precisely their average attendance for last season (65,120).
In some cases people come to see the home team, not the opponent.

-- They rebuilt the confidence (maybe) of a team that had to be down after a tough loss, had a chance to play their backups (and could have played them more in a different scenario coming in)

[cuervo72]

Originally Posted by tarcone

Why? Why does the SEC schedule cream puffs? Mizzou is up 79-0. Really?

I didn't even know there was a Delaware State.

[MrBug708]

Originally Posted by tarcone

Why? Why does the SEC schedule cream puffs? Mizzou is up 79-0. Really?

Good teams = losses = lower rankings = bad ratings on ESPN. It's why we get Gameday at games like Florida-Tennessee and why we will never see rankings start after a few games have been played.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by cuervo72

I didn't even know there was a Delaware State.

Such is the profile of MEAC football. They're apparently really bad this year but were 11-11 overall & 10-6 in conference play the past two years.

18 players in the NFL though, and a "Black College National Championship" in 2007.

[JonInMiddleGA]

re: the occasional creampuff on a schedule.

This idle social media status of mine kinda fits into that discussion

The reality of college football in the upper echelon:

Tennessee can enjoy this victory for, oh, maybe 16 hours. Then you turn around and start preparing for a considerably wounded team that could turn their own diminished fortunes around with a win. On the road. In front of 90,000+ very hostile fans.

[cubboyroy1826]

Kelly is in so over his head. Time to clean house after losing to Duke today. The Irony defense has been horrible most of Kelly's time.

[Julio Riddols]

Lagow threw this one away, eh Kodos? Wondering why Indiana didn't try to run more.

[cuervo72]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Such is the profile of MEAC football. They're apparently really bad this year but were 11-11 overall & 10-6 in conference play the past two years.

18 players in the NFL though, and a "Black College National Championship" in 2007.

That's probably it - HBCU. I mean, I grew up in PA and I don't remember ever hearing of them. Though I would have thought I'd have heard it mentioned in intros for Darnerien McCants or, uh, John Taylor.

(Also for a wtf? - Wayne Gilchrest got a degree there??)

[MizzouRah]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Same opponent plays West Virginia next season.

As to why?

-- They fell on the schedule between UGA and LSU.

-- They had 65,211 in attendance for a virtually impossible to lose game. That's almost precisely their average attendance for last season (65,120).
In some cases people come to see the home team, not the opponent.

-- They rebuilt the confidence (maybe) of a team that had to be down after a tough loss, had a chance to play their backups (and could have played them more in a different scenario coming in)

Yep.. and Delaware St. just made cash for their program.

[MizzouRah]

Originally Posted by tarcone

Why? Why does the SEC schedule cream puffs? Mizzou is up 79-0. Really?

So the SEC is the only conference to schedule cream puffs?

Didn't Iowa play North Texas last season?

[tarcone]

North Texas was where Legendary coach Hayden Fry coached. So there is a connection.

Why doesnt Mizzou at least schedule missouri State or SEMO and help an athletic program in state. Iowa does this with UNI every few years.

[MizzouRah]

Originally Posted by tarcone

North Texas was where Legendary coach Hayden Fry coached. So there is a connection.

Why doesnt Mizzou at least schedule missouri State or SEMO and help an athletic program in state. Iowa does this with UNI every few years.

That's a good question.. maybe they refused Mizzou? Just a guess.. I'm not totally sure how scheduling works. I do like them staggered though, rather than playing all cupcakes in the beginning of the season.

A win like today means nothing to me though.. last weeks lost.. yeah that took another black and gold piece of me.

[TroyF]

CU came into Oregon tonight with a redshirt frosh at QB. After competing with Michigan until the starting QB went down, this was going to be a test. I didn't expect a win, I just hoped they would continue to fight.

The frosh throws for 333 yards, runs for 135 yards, accounts for 4 TD's overall and they knock off OR on the road 41-38. The last 5 meetings with OR ended in a combined score of 66-257.

First time in a long time, this team is on the rise. Great win. So proud of this team.

[Brian Swartz]

I'm not a Colorado fan, but I do think they are one of the better stories this year so far.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by tarcone

North Texas was where Legendary coach Hayden Fry coached. So there is a connection.

Same sort of thing led to the Bama vs Kent State game today.

[tarcone]

Originally Posted by Brian Swartz

I'm not a Colorado fan, but I do think they are one of the better stories this year so far.

Absolutely. One of the nder rated teams this season I think. I would love to see them in the PAC12 championship game.

[cuervo72]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Same opponent plays West Virginia next season.

As to why?

-- They fell on the schedule between UGA and LSU.

OH NOES, REAL OPPONENTS!

I mean, I get that the SEC has strong teams (although, the way those two teams are looking*...). But the idea that "well, if we didn't schedule a cupcake we would have to play three competitive games in a row, and that's just insanity" always gets me. You want to be in a league, play the league.

Of course, so does the curiosity of schools scheduling their own opponents. It seems very 1920s barnstormy to me.

* ok, I wrote this before that last play

[cuervo72]

Ok, wow.

[jbergey22]

Auburn deserved that game but how can they reverse the time call? The ref was the one in charge of starting the clock so how couldnt he have known that 1 second ran off. Id guess the camera or clock keeper upstairs had no clue when to start the clock so that could not have been official.

Should there not have been a time runoff on the penalty that would have prevented that situation in the first place?

Of course IMO the Auburn end a couple plays before was about a yard offside on that sack that screwed LSU over. Another story of the refs losing control late in the game.

[Thomkal]

Originally Posted by Thomkal

Coastal Carolina hosts Furman, and I suspect more of the same in the series. Coastal has won the last five, but all have been decided by 7 points or less, they usually go into overtime, and usually are high scoring affairs. The Coastal QB situation is so bad (three are out for this game), that they brought in Tyler Chadwick from the baseball team to back up the starter. He has used up his baseball eligibility I think but is still pursuing things on the academic side. He was actually a QB in high school, and the sport is his first love. His height prevented him from pursuing it at the college level, so he turned to baseball (and CCU is glad he did).

I really hope we don't see him in the game though.

Well after all that, Coastal wins by 20. Nice to see them put that loss behind them.

[digamma]

The wide receiver to the wide side of the field didn't get set on either of the last two plays. And the LSU QB may have crossed the line of scrimmage. Just pretty bad on field officiating.

[tarcone]

What happened? Im being nice and letting my wife watch The Empire Strikes Back.

[bronconick]

So, the Tick Six?

[jbergey22]

Originally Posted by tarcone

What happened? Im being nice and letting my wife watch The Empire Strikes Back.

LSU down 5 deep in Auburn territory. LSU player caught the ball and was down with 1 second left at the 2. Penalty on LSU so they moved the ball back to the previous LOS - 5 yards. Clock starts on ref whistle but the ref let the play go and LSU caught a TD in the back of the end zone. Went to review and upstairs decided they didnt get the play off. The entire sequence was off and it seems some rules were missed by the refs in the first place that allowed that stuff to even happen.

The strange thing to me was the booth apparently decided from watching the monitors the time had ran off however the clock was at 0 for 2-3 seconds yet no referee called the game. I think the ref probably never officially started the game clock or something because otherwise they shouldnt have needed video review.