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Old 03-18-2016, 11:20 AM   #51
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If only someone had gotten Josh Hagins from UALR. 40 points.

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Old 03-18-2016, 11:32 AM   #52
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If only someone had gotten Josh Hagins from UALR. 40 points.

40 mins, 31 points... Sure you are ready to update scores?
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Old 03-18-2016, 11:32 AM   #53
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Okay, check my work. But here's the results after Day 1:

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wademoore 1986 4 britrock88 1269 9 spleen1015 1268 8 Young Drachma 1254 8 bhlloy 1212 8 murrayyyy 1127 6 Karlifornia 1021 8 BillyMadison 970 9 dolfin 899 9 Ramzavil 847 6 Vince 811 9 jbergey22 786 9 henry296 741 8 PackerFanatic 705 10 Comey 695 9 muns 690 8 kingfc22 542 10 BillyNYC 662 9 Sublime 2 617 9 B&B 502 8 Butter_of_69 482 10 cartman 387 10

Obviously everyone who picked a Powerball has that player in play for the next round, so you have 1 extra player. I didn't see if anyone's powerball got eliminated, but will look now.

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Old 03-18-2016, 11:33 AM   #54
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40 mins, 31 points... Sure you are ready to update scores?

Shut it.
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Old 03-18-2016, 11:33 AM   #55
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You missed Marvell Harris for me
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Old 03-18-2016, 11:36 AM   #56
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Okay, so Wade lost his Powerball yesterday.
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Old 03-18-2016, 11:39 AM   #57
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You missed Marvell Harris for me

Fixed. Original score post updated. Thanks. Wade had him too.
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Old 03-18-2016, 11:39 AM   #58
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missing scores
Providence, Utah, Miami, Indiana, UNC
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Old 03-18-2016, 11:44 AM   #59
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Providence, Utah, Miami, Indiana, UNC

Updated. Thanks!

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Old 03-18-2016, 03:52 PM   #60
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Old 03-18-2016, 03:59 PM   #61
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So much for the Powerball!

Hahaha! So true!
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Old 03-18-2016, 04:28 PM   #62
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Old 03-18-2016, 05:24 PM   #63
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If hadn't thought through the Powerball wrinkle, the ideal way to do it in my mind would've been to have people pick their Powerball AFTER the start of the first games on Thursday. It'll force folks to come back and check, but most people if they're playing do that anyway. And maybe restricting the powerball to be like a 1-8 seed. Kind of how in Top Gun you have to pick a low seed. Maybe the Powerball has to be from a non-double digit seed.

I guess what do you all even think of the idea of it at all? Like it? Want us to ditch it for next year? Curious to hear what folks think, since we didn't really ask. Chime in.

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Old 03-18-2016, 07:18 PM   #64
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If hadn't thought through the Powerball wrinkle, the ideal way to do it in my mind would've been to have people pick their Powerball AFTER the start of the first games on Thursday. It'll force folks to come back and check, but most people if they're playing do that anyway. And maybe restricting the powerball to be like a 1-8 seed. Kind of how in Top Gun you have to pick a low seed. Maybe the Powerball has to be from a non-double digit seed.

I guess what do you all even think of the idea of it at all? Like it? Want us to ditch it for next year? Curious to hear what folks think, since we didn't really ask. Chime in.


I didn't dig too deep into the powerball theory but here was my view on them. It encouraged me to take a 15-16 seeded guy because it's great value for replacing a powerball's first round score which is usually horrible because they never win (sorry MTSU). So I weighed the value: find a 4 with a high scorer because if they can make it to the third round I would get 16* first round with the 16 seed, then 8* for 2nd round and if they win I get 16* points again for just making it to the game. This is just a little lower than taking a 2 seeded guy and hoping they make the finals. If a 2 seed doesn't make the finals, I get a 2,4,6,8,10 value for the 5 rounds.

So there is still the chance factor as my 4/5 seed powerball guy has to play in the sweet 16 but I thought that was the reason for the powerball. (to encourage taking more lower seeded players).
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Old 03-18-2016, 07:22 PM   #65
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I like it. Seems like it's going to be a nightmare to score though.

Personally, I feel like everyone is going to lose a player in round 1, so maybe the Powerball comes into play the round after someone drops to 6 players or some other number.
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Old 03-18-2016, 07:45 PM   #66
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It's not that bad, actually. I mean, it's crude in the spreadsheet, but Wade is an Excel savant (only reason this game has lasted 5 years...is his original spreadsheet) and so, powerball does require a bit more manual math than the rest of it, but...there are only 1 per person and so, it's not that bad in the grand scheme of things.

And yeah, the reason for the Powerball was just to keep things interesting for longer and to keep folks with a glimmer of hope.

What if we all waited to pick the Powerball before the Sweet 16? (Next year, obvs. No one panic.)

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Old 03-18-2016, 07:49 PM   #67
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What if we all waited to pick the Powerball before the Sweet 16? (Next year, obvs. No one panic.)

Maybe I misunderstand the value of powerball. Why wouldn't everyone take the lowest seed player then? Are you not getting 3*seed value at that point? So if an 11 seed makes it in, wouldn't everyone take the 11 seeds best scorer to get 33 points? Or does their round value reset when they start (so powerball's 1st active round is times 1, etc)
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Old 03-18-2016, 07:50 PM   #68
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I liked having to pick it pre-tourney. My thought process was to take somebody who I thought would make it past the weekend and at the same time it allowed me to take a low risk flyer on a top scorer from a 12+ seed.
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Old 03-18-2016, 07:55 PM   #69
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Maybe I misunderstand the value of powerball. Why wouldn't everyone take the lowest seed player then? Are you not getting 3*seed value at that point? So if an 11 seed makes it in, wouldn't everyone take the 11 seeds best scorer to get 33 points? Or does their round value reset when they start (so powerball's 1st active round is times 1, etc)

Like I said, I never thought through it. I'm just throwing ideas against a wall to see what folks think. Haha.

I didn't think of this, but you're dead-on. Should keep drafting before the tournament like it is now, because the fog of war and is essentially the difference maker.

I hadn't considered the whole round value reset. We didn't schedule that. Shit is already complicated enough, haha...no way we're gonna make it harder. Though that's an interesting idea: what if you only get the Powerball's point value with no multiplier (next year)?

Would change the strategy considerably and surely incentivize picking who you thought would end up being there in the later rounds, rather than a lotto ticket.
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Old 03-18-2016, 08:05 PM   #70
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Scoring update through the games already done today (9:05pm EDT)

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wademoore 2206 4 Young Drachma 1793 4 britrock88 1650 9 murrayyyy 1407 5 bhlloy 1366 8 spleen1015 1322 8 Karlifornia 1170 8 BillyMadison 1154 8 Vince 1080 9 jbergey22 1073 8 Ramzavail 1062 4 BillyNYC 1060 8 henry296 1022 8 dolfin 979 8 PackerFanatic 946 9 Butter_of_69 890 9 kingfc22 796 9 Comey 775 8 muns 770 7 Sublime 2 671 9 B&B 656 7 cartman 656 10
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Old 03-18-2016, 08:45 PM   #71
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I think I have a wizard in my group. 9 players still alive. 2045 pts first round.

1. fred vanvleet 2. jamaal murray 3. chris dunn 4. (AJ english-out) 5. thomas walkup 6. demetrious floyd 7. makai mason 8. buddy hield 9. tyler ulis 10. domantas sabonis
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Old 03-18-2016, 08:48 PM   #72
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Unofficial scores as of 9:49pm eastern

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wademoore 2206 4 britrock88 2112 9 Young Drachma 1793 4 PackerFanatic 1408 9 murrayyyy 1407 5 bhlloy 1366 8 spleen1015 1322 8 Karlifornia 1170 8 BillyMadison 1154 8 Vince 1113 9 Ramzavail 1095 4 jbergey22 1073 8 BillyNYC 1060 8 henry296 1022 8 dolfin 979 8 Butter_of_69 926 8 kingfc22 796 9 muns 803 7 Comey 786 8 B&B 725 6 Sublime 2 671 9 cartman 656 10
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Old 03-18-2016, 11:24 PM   #73
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Buddy Hield, Oklahoma
A.J. English, Iona
Grayson Allen, Duke
Ben Bentil, Providence
Kyle Wiltjer, Gonzaga
Quinton Hooker, Notre Dame
Jamal Murray, Kentucky
Georges Niang, Iowa St.
Malcolm Brogdon, Virginia
Jameel Warney, Stony Brook
Denzel Valientine, Michigan St. (POWERBALL)

Quinton Hooker plays for North Dakota, not Notre Dame. Sorry we didn't catch this sooner, but I went to score and had to look it up.
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Old 03-18-2016, 11:55 PM   #74
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Check my work, as always. But here's the results after the first round of the NCAA tournament. PB means their powerball is still eligible.

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wademoore 2338 3 britrock88 2112 9(PB) Young Drachma 1945 4 murrayyyy 1746 5(PB) Karlifornia 1509 8 PackerFanatic 1408 9(PB) bhlloy 1366 8 spleen1015 1322 7 BillyNYC 1192 7 BillyMadison 1154 8(PB) Vince 1113 9 Ramzavail 1095 4(PB) Butter_of_69 1078 8 jbergey22 1073 8(PB) henry296 1022 8(PB) kingfc22 1001 8(PB) dolfin 979 8(PB) muns 869 7(PB) Comey 806 8(PB) Sublime 2 803 8 cartman 728 9 B&B 725 6

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Old 03-19-2016, 10:31 AM   #75
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Old 03-19-2016, 11:08 AM   #76
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Old 03-19-2016, 11:03 PM   #77
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Post-Saturday results:

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britrock88 3426 5 Young Drachma 3173 2 bhlloy 2952 4 PackerFanatic 2904 6 BillyMadison 2706 5 spleen1015 2702 5 jbergey22 2627 8 Karlifornia 2611 6 kingfc22 2212 6 BillyNYC 2560 5 wademoore 2530 2 dolfin 2461 6 Sublime 2 2349 4 murrayyyy 2248 5 Butter_of_69 2190 6 Vince 2069 6 muns 2049 5 henry296 1818 5 cartman 1736 8 Comey 1686 6 B&B 1469 4 Ramzavail 1409 2
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Old 03-20-2016, 11:15 PM   #78
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Results after Round 2.

Stephen F. Austin gave britrock a commanding lead heading into the Sweet 16, but most of our leaders are almost out of players.

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britrock88 5158 2 PackerFanatic 3860 4 bhlloy 3556 4 murrayyyy 3494 2 wademoore 3450 1 Karlifornia 3321 4 jbergey22 3311 7 Young Drachma 3301 1 BillyMadison 3082 4 kingfc22 2718 4 Vince 3009 5 Butter_of_69 2926 4 spleen1015 2846 5 BillyNYC 2788 5 henry296 2646 3 dolfin 2633 6 cartman 2580 7 muns 2505 5 Sublime 2 2493 4 B&B 2101 3 Comey 1908 5 Ramzavail 1649 2

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Old 03-21-2016, 01:00 PM   #79
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A 3000-point round! But at the expense of 7 players. C'est la vie.
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Old 03-24-2016, 11:19 PM   #80
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After the first part of the Sweet 16:

Can jbergey make up 1000 points? I haven't looked at conflicts, but assume there are some overlaps in terms of who is left. Because there's so much chalk left, you have to wonder...tho players the later they stick around do have some value.

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britrock88 5158 2 PackerFanatic 4277 3 jbergey22 4094 4 Karlifornia 3912 2 bhlloy 3838 3 kingfc22 3712 2 Vince 3645 2 murrayyyy 3494 2 Butter_of_69 3463 2 wademoore 3450 1 BillyMadison 3448 3 Young Drachma 3301 1 cartman 3252 5 spleen1015 3128 4 BillyNYC 3070 4 dolfin 2915 5 Sublime 2 2832 3 henry296 2829 3 muns 2706 4 Comey 2445 4 B&B 2284 2 Ramzavail 1931 1
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Old 03-25-2016, 12:13 AM   #81
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brit: Wiltjer and Gbinije
PF: Hield, Wiltjer, and Ellis
jbergey: Wiltjer, Sabonis, Gbinije, and Ferrell
bhlloy: Wiltjer, Gbinije, and Hield

A Gonzaga Final Four run probably holds the highest scoring potential, and it'd work out in jbergey's favor. All of the group but PF will have a player guaranteed to collect 40-44 times their scoring total in the Elite Eight thanks to the Syracuse/Gonzaga matchup tomorrow.
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Old 03-25-2016, 12:42 AM   #82
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brit: Wiltjer and Gbinije
PF: Hield, Wiltjer, and Ellis
jbergey: Wiltjer, Sabonis, Gbinije, and Ferrell
bhlloy: Wiltjer, Gbinije, and Hield

A Gonzaga Final Four run probably holds the highest scoring potential, and it'd work out in jbergey's favor. All of the group but PF will have a player guaranteed to collect 40-44 times their scoring total in the Elite Eight thanks to the Syracuse/Gonzaga matchup tomorrow.

I still have Ellis as well. Was my powerball.
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Old 03-25-2016, 01:07 AM   #83
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Forgot about the 10/11 Syracuse/Gonzaga underseed matchup. Fun!
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Old 03-25-2016, 02:09 PM   #84
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Old 03-25-2016, 08:40 PM   #85
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Updated scores as of 9:40pm eastern

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britrock88 5158 2 PackerFanatic 4637 2 jbergey22 4094 4 Karlifornia 3912 2 bhlloy 3838 3 BillyMadison 3808 2 kingfc22 3234 2 cartman 3648 4 Vince 3645 2 spleen1015 3524 3 murrayyyy 3494 2 Butter_of_69 3463 2 wademoore 3450 1 Young Drachma 3301 1 BillyNYC 3301 3 henry296 3189 2 muns 3030 4 dolfin 2915 5 Comey 2841 4 Sublime 2 2832 3 B&B 2284 2 Ramzavail 1931 1
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Old 03-25-2016, 08:44 PM   #86
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In 2014, this game came down to the final game. In every other year, the winner has won by less than 80 points.

So if we've learned anything...the longer you've got guys playing, the better.
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Old 03-26-2016, 12:27 AM   #87
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After the Sweet 16

Like I said...it's never really over in this game so long as you've got guys dancing. Elite 8 will make things super interesting and this year's winner will finish with the most points ever. britrock's lead cut down to just 62 points with three rounds to go.


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britrock88 6517 1 jbergey22 6455 1 PackerFanatic 5396 1 bhlloy 5197 2 murrayyyy 4853 1 dolfin 4736 2 BillyNYC 4687 1 Karlifornia 4671 1 BillyMadison 4567 1 muns 4416 2 cartman 4407 3 Vince 4404 1 spleen1015 4283 2 Butter_of_69 4222 1 wademoore 4050 1 kingfc22 4201 1 Young Drachma 3928 0 Sublime 2 3591 2 henry296 3249 2 B&B 3043 1 Comey 2841 4 Ramzavail 1931 1

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Old 03-26-2016, 12:36 AM   #88
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I have 2 players left correct? Perry Ellis and Gbinije.
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Old 03-26-2016, 11:01 AM   #89
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I have 2 players left correct? Perry Ellis and Gbinije.
Yeah the totals don't include the powerball.
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Old 03-26-2016, 01:12 PM   #90
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Well that stinks, then!
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Old 03-26-2016, 01:18 PM   #91
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It is amazingly futile that I have four players left, and I'm next-to-last.
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Old 03-26-2016, 03:55 PM   #92
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It is amazingly futile that I have four players left, and I'm next-to-last.

Too much chalk, I assume.
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Old 03-26-2016, 06:48 PM   #93
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Yeah, those seed multipliers are a big, big deal.
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Old 03-27-2016, 05:06 PM   #94
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The scores after yesterday's slate of games:

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britrock88 6517 1 jbergey22 6471 1 PackerFanatic 5708 1 bhlloy 5493 2 dolfin 5032 2 BillyNYC 4983 1 Karlifornia 4967 1 BillyMadison 4967 1 murrayyyy 4853 1 cartman 4719 2 muns 4712 2 Vince 4700 1 spleen1015 4579 2 Butter_of_69 4518 1 kingfc22 4859 2 wademoore 4050 1 Sublime 2 3951 1 Young Drachma 3928 0 henry296 3561 1 Comey 3181 2 B&B 3147 1 Ramzavail 2243 1
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Old 03-27-2016, 05:17 PM   #95
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brit: Wiltjer and Gbinije
PF: Hield, Wiltjer, and Ellis
jbergey: Wiltjer, Sabonis, Gbinije, and Ferrell
bhlloy: Wiltjer, Gbinije, and Hield


So coming back to this post. britrock and jbergey cancel each other out with Syracuse's Gbinije as their only player left (jbergey lost his powerball last night)

If Syracuse wins tonight, then bhlloy will be able to use his Hield advantage to track down britrock, so don't let the 4th place standing fool you, he's in the best position.
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Old 03-27-2016, 07:53 PM   #96
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After the Syracuse/UVA game:

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britrock88 6957 1 jbergey22 6911 1 bhlloy 5933 2 PackerFanatic 5708 1 murrayyyy 5293 1 dolfin 5032 2 BillyNYC 4983 1 Karlifornia 4967 1 BillyMadison 4967 1 kingfc22 4289 1 cartman 4767 1 muns 4760 2 Vince 4700 1 spleen1015 4627 1 Butter_of_69 4518 1 wademoore 4490 1 Sublime 2 3951 1 Young Drachma 3928 0 henry296 3561 1 Comey 3229 1 B&B 3147 1 Ramzavail 2243 1
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Old 03-27-2016, 07:55 PM   #97
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This game always comes down to the last game or two every year and this year will be no different. Sort of funny given the structure of it, you'd assume that it wouldn't work that way...but alas.
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Old 03-27-2016, 08:04 PM   #98
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If Buddy were to average 25 the next two games.....

25*2*5=250
25*2*6=300
550 total. Needs to get over 1000 to catch up.

I really like britrocks chances.

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Old 03-27-2016, 08:11 PM   #99
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If Buddy were to average 25 the next two games.....

25*2*5=250
25*2*6=300
550 total. Needs to get over 1000 to catch up.

I really like britrocks chances.

Someone on the other thread said Buddy is the next Steph Curry. All he has to do is put up 48 and 46 in the next two games to clinch it.
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Old 03-27-2016, 08:14 PM   #100
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Leading Scorers

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Michael Gbinje, Syracuse (1600)*
Domantas Sabonis, Gonzaga (1276)
Kile Wiltjer, Gonzaga (1276)
Thomas Walkup, SFA (1050)
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