NFL Week 10

[JPhillips]

Hey Eli, don't tell the RB not to score.

[miami_fan]

The matchup between Beckham and Butler looks like it would be a fun one to have an iso cam on all game.

[miami_fan]

I have no clue.

[JPhillips]

That can't possibly be a catch.

[kingfc22]

And that's a TD?

[sabotai]

Doesn't look like it to me.

[EagleFan]

That was a bad call, he had both feet down before that ball was knocked out. That was the third foot down when the ball was knocked out.

[JPhillips]

NY continues the tradition of terrible end game clock management.

[Thomkal]

Originally Posted by Logan

Peyton pulled.

Peyton, run not walk to retirement, especially now that you have the record.

[EagleFan]

Shouldn't that have been a penalty on coach hoodie, well out of the coaches box calling that timeout.

[sabotai]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

NY continues the tradition of terrible end game clock management.

Was just going to mention this. That pass shouldn't have happened. Passing with 2:01 doesn't matter, but the play before should not have been a pass.

[sabotai]

.....almost. Would have been a hell of a catch.

[EagleFan]

Would have been a nice catch for the interception. Really poor decision and throw by Brady.

[JPhillips]

Originally Posted by sabotai

Was just going to mention this. That pass shouldn't have happened. Passing with 2:01 doesn't matter, but the play before should not have been a pass.

At least two of the three plays should have been runs.

[kingfc22]

Regardless of the outcome on the kick...Brady is just so damn good.

[JPhillips]

Three Giants losses due to poor end game clock management.

[SirFozzie]

If we yell GRONK for every big play by Gronkowski, do we now yell GOST ???

[Logan]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

Three Giants losses due to poor end game clock management.

+1

Originally Posted by EagleFan

That was a bad call, he had both feet down before that ball was knocked out. That was the third foot down when the ball was knocked out.

Incorrect.

[General Mike]

Knew the Giants were going to lose when they settled for the FG, then they got my hopes up with the dropped interception.

[SteveMax58]

Originally Posted by sabotai

Was just going to mention this. That pass shouldn't have happened. Passing with 2:01 doesn't matter, but the play before should not have been a pass.

Yes exactly. I just don't understand why it seems so impossible for them to get it right. I mean, who is calling that play as a pass? And who isn't yelling at that person to run.

I was texting my friend that on 1st and 2nd down I would have no problem with a QB kneel. 3rd down run the ball for the end zone. 4th down (if necessary) kick the FG. That leaves 1:10 for the Patriots and no timeouts.

Even running on 1st/2nd3rd down would have been a better strategy.

[Solecismic]

I think you go for the throat. Whether you leave 1:10 on the clock or 1:50, that's still plenty of time for a field goal. But you get that touchdown and it's twice as big a challenge for Brady.

Same reason I thought it was smart football way back when the Patriots had that fourth-down miss in their own territory that gave the ball back to Peyton Manning and Indy. If you have the opportunity to deliver the final blow and you don't take it, that's just not showing confidence in a championship-caliber team.

Say what you will, but there's only one team in the last nine years with multiple Super Bowl wins, and that team is coached by Tom Coughlin. He knows what he's doing there and I'm sure the players support those calls completely.

[Julio Riddols]

I think 1st down they should have just snapped it and run around in the backfield for 6 seconds before throwing it out of bounds. They needed to get it under 2 minutes on that play.

[JPhillips]

I don't think running is not going for the TD. They were on the five. Three runs could have easily ended in a TD.

[sabotai]

I've decided not to be pessimistic and am going to look at the silver lining. The Giants showed they can play with the best team in the league, and they did it without their best CB (Amukamara), JPP just came back and they are still without WR Cruz. They still lead the division. If they can find their way to the playoffs (will most likely need to win the division), they have what it takes to make another run.

[JPhillips]

With the Packers problems, are the Vikings the best team in the NFC?

[Solecismic]

Going into today, Carolina had a 30 SoV. No one else in the NFC had more than 19. What exactly do the Panthers have to do to give people confidence that this is a pretty good team?

Editing: as of right now - Carolina 34, Minnesota 22, Green Bay 21, Atlanta 20, New York 18, Arizona 17, New Orleans 17.

[Radii]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

With the Packers problems, are the Vikings the best team in the NFC?

2nd or third best depending on what you think of Arizona I suppose.

[cartman]

Even after losing 7 straight, the Cowboys are only 2.5 back of the division lead.

[Galaril]

So wow based on today's results it looks like it is Pats or Bengals for SB ring and not even close.

[Julio Riddols]

I think an all cat super bowl would be a good one. A rematch of the tie from last season.

[sabotai]

Originally Posted by Radii

2nd or third best depending on what you think of Arizona I suppose.

They're certainly making a case for themselves tonight.

[EagleFan]

That's a fumble.

[EagleFan]

lol, the announcers knew that the play was under review before the refs did.

[NobodyHere]

Is it just me or have the games been achingly slow today.

[EagleFan]

Not just you.

[NobodyHere]

Thanks replay officials for slowing the game down for nothing.

[EagleFan]

I give up.

[NobodyHere]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

I give up.

It probably should've been a fumble, but there was no way that call was getting reversed.

[Thomkal]

nice dominating half of football for my beloved Cards. Always great to see Sherman get burned. Just hope the Iupati injury is not too severe.

[stevew]

Originally Posted by Solecismic

Going into today, Carolina had a 30 SoV. No one else in the NFC had more than 19. What exactly do the Panthers have to do to give people confidence that this is a pretty good team?

Editing: as of right now - Carolina 34, Minnesota 22, Green Bay 21, Atlanta 20, New York 18, Arizona 17, New Orleans 17.

I feel like we've seen this before from them. They are a well coached team. The receivers still worry me a ton.

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by Solecismic

Going into today, Carolina had a 30 SoV. No one else in the NFC had more than 19. What exactly do the Panthers have to do to give people confidence that this is a pretty good team?

Editing: as of right now - Carolina 34, Minnesota 22, Green Bay 21, Atlanta 20, New York 18, Arizona 17, New Orleans 17.

In fairness, it's hard to be sold on a team with a QB completing 54% of his passes.

[Solecismic]

Originally Posted by stevew

I feel like we've seen this before from them. They are a well coached team. The receivers still worry me a ton.

As we've seen so many times over the last decade or so, when you have a quarterback who can really hurt you with the run, he doesn't have to have the best arm.

The problem with those quarterbacks is that they get dinged up, and that affects their passes more than their running. Then you can dedicate a spy and rush more to maintain the edge during pass plays.

Right now Cam Newton is healthy, and his arm is good enough to keep defenses honest. He's running a ton and he's got good receivers that defenses have to respect. It's not pretty, but that offense is hard to stop. I think they're a real threat.

Good to hear that Iupati has feeling in his hands and feet.

[EagleFan]

Beast mode.

[Groundhog]

5-20 with 4 picks. Yikes. That's only about 25% more completions than I would manage in 20 throws against an NFL defense.

[jbergey22]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

With the Packers problems, are the Vikings the best team in the NFC?

Best Team, Nah. They are finally a well coached team after years have not having that. Best Team or favs in the NFC Id say 1. Carolina 2. Arizona 3. Green Bay. Vikings being 4th or 5th.

[thesloppy]

Originally Posted by jbergey22

Best Team, Nah. They are finally a well coached team after years have not having that. Best Team or favs in the NFC Id say 1. Carolina 2. Arizona 3. Green Bay. Vikings being 4th or 5th.

I agree. I think the Vikings are playing great ball, and doing so by recognizing exactly what their strengths and weaknesses are and playing within those constraints, while plenty of more talented teams in the NFC are seemingly suffering by trying to repeatedly shove the same square pegs into the same round holes. It does go to show the value of coaching in the NFL, and how many teams seem to get sabotaged by their inability to match system to talent.

I'm still not entirely sold on Teddy Bridgewater....for his strengths of accuracy and game management, he still pretty much tops out at 200 yards and 1 TD a game. Catching lightning in a bottle occasionally is one thing, but can they really make the playoffs consistently behind a QB putting up less than 3,500 yards & 20 TDs in a season?

[jbergey22]

Originally Posted by thesloppy

I'm still not entirely sold on Teddy Bridgewater....for his strengths of accuracy and game management, he still pretty much tops out at 200 yards and 1 TD a game. Catching lightning in a bottle occasionally is one thing, but can they really make the playoffs consistently behind a QB putting up less than 3,500 yards & 20 TDs in a season?

Agreed! He either doesnt have the confidence to throw the ball downfield or he is being coached as a game manager. Eventually if he is to evolve into a top tier QB he will need to win the shootout type games against Rogers/Brees/Brady. Still a longshot IMO. Very accurate on short throws however which is a huge plus for the QBs the Vikings have been living with.

[Solecismic]

Carson, there are better ways to maximize time of possession.

[EagleFan]

This game is swinging a great direction. Hope it keeps going this way.

[Solecismic]

And while Arizona looks done, that may be the worst 2-point decision I've seen all year. Or is Seattle without a kicker?