Official College Football Week 11 thread - Page 2

dawgfan · 11-07-2013, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

Alabama is no slouch of a program but when he came in it had a few down years. Texas on the other hand is the right in the heart of the largest talent pool in the nation. Personally, what I think Saban could do at Texas would be unfair.

Not only that, no program in the country matches Texas when it comes to revenue. Alabama does very well and ranks third in that category, bringing in nearly $82M for the 2011-12 time period, but Texas is tops with nearly $104M.

Perhaps the new SEC TV deals will equalize things, but then again those figures are also before the Big-12 got new deals.

Alabama is obviously one of the top jobs in the country, but so is Texas.

BishopMVP · 11-07-2013, 02:38 PM

So Jaboo plays without his contacts in? Is he playing with house rules so he doesn't dominate too much? Jameis Winston of Florida State Seminoles says squinting is 'a habit' - ESPN

digamma · 11-07-2013, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by cartman

Close your eyes for a moment, and imagine what this thread would look like if it wasn't Texas that the Saban rumor was connected to, but rather another school, one not from the state of Texas, and once a member of the Big 12.

Close your eyes for a moment, and imagine what this thread would look like if there were a couple of rather large Thursday night games to discuss...

digamma · 11-07-2013, 03:21 PM

And dola...

I honestly don't know what to make of the games tonight. I want to say both big offenses roll, but Stanford seems to have Oregon's number and OU-Baylor is, well, OU-Baylor.

cartman · 11-07-2013, 03:28 PM

I can't wait for kickoff of both games

HomerSimpson98 · 11-07-2013, 03:40 PM

Yeah tonight is going to be delicious.

I'm looking forward to Baylor playing a decent defense and I am really hoping OU gives them a kick in the teeth just so all these pretty boy baptists can go back to their little corner of the Interwebs. But hey, the tarp is off!! Way to go guys.

And something tells me that the Tree knocks off the Ducks again. Looking for another instant classic here.

Friday could be a rough morning.

Crapshoot · 11-07-2013, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by digamma

And dola...

I honestly don't know what to make of the games tonight. I want to say both big offenses roll, but Stanford seems to have Oregon's number and OU-Baylor is, well, OU-Baylor.

On campus, headed over now. Honestly, I expect Oregon to win, and by 10 at least - the Stanford offense is simply not setup to play from behind, and David Shaw makes Rush Limbaugh look like a liberal. It will be a pleasant surprise if it goes any other way, especially with Ben Gardner being injured last week.

jbergey22 · 11-07-2013, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerSimpson98

Yeah tonight is going to be delicious.

I'm looking forward to Baylor playing a decent defense and I am really hoping OU gives them a kick in the teeth just so all these pretty boy baptists can go back to their little corner of the Interwebs. But hey, the tarp is off!! Way to go guys.

And something tells me that the Tree knocks off the Ducks again. Looking for another instant classic here.

Friday could be a rough morning.

I am kind of hoping for a Baylor vs Oregon bowl game. I am not sure if it could actually happen but the total in that game might cross into 3 digit territory. I cant imagine either team being held under 50 with how fast them teams run plays.

cartman · 11-07-2013, 06:36 PM

There aren't going to be too many people missing Floyd Casey Stadium when it is closed after this season. There are high school stadiums better than that place.

Matthean · 11-07-2013, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

I am kind of hoping for a Baylor vs Oregon bowl game. I am not sure if it could actually happen but the total in that game might cross into 3 digit territory. I cant imagine either team being held under 50 with how fast them teams run plays.

Baylor has put up 3 points and given up a safety against the first real team they have faced. I wouldn't bet too much on them scoring a bunch on the Ducks.

panerd · 11-07-2013, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerSimpson98

Better yet, what if the rumors were PINKEL going to Texas and not Saban?

Nah Pinkel and Briles will just continue to pick up more talented athletes that Texas passes on.

mauchow · 11-07-2013, 07:53 PM

Top of the 5th and it's 5 to 3 Sooners leading.

jbergey22 · 11-07-2013, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Matthean

Baylor has put up 3 points and given up a safety against the first real team they have faced. I wouldn't bet too much on them scoring a bunch on the Ducks.

Plenty of game left. With Seastrunk, Reese, Goodley, and Petty I dont see scoring being much of an issue.

mauchow · 11-07-2013, 08:18 PM

At a quick glace it looks like Michigan's uniforms(Ducks).

cartman · 11-07-2013, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

Plenty of game left. With Seastrunk, Reese, Goodley, and Petty I dont see scoring being much of an issue.

24-5 Baylor at halftime.

mauchow · 11-07-2013, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by mauchow

Top of the 5th and it's 5 to 3 Sooners leading.

That baseball score quickly ended......

cartman · 11-07-2013, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by panerd

Nah Pinkel and Briles will just continue to pick up more talented athletes that Texas passes on.

That Texas pipeline is drying up for Mizzou. Only signed 4 guys from Texas in the last class, and only 2 verbals for 2014's class.

jbergey22 · 11-07-2013, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by mauchow

That baseball score quickly ended......

College Football Stats - College FB Team Plays per Game on TeamRankings.com

Some teams play so fast now they are getting almost 1.5X more snaps per game than slower paced teams. Its almost like playing a football game of 90 minutes now instead of 60. Holding Oregon or Baylor under 30 would take one heck of a defensive effort.

Lathum · 11-07-2013, 08:47 PM

Time to see what Oregon is made of

cartman · 11-07-2013, 08:57 PM

Baylor's defense has been impressive

BishopMVP · 11-07-2013, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Matthean

Baylor has put up 3 points and given up a safety against the first real team they have faced. I wouldn't bet too much on them scoring a bunch on the Ducks.

Nothing like judging a team based of 5 drives, when 1.5 of them were successful (FG, missed FG). Can we write off Oregon's offense since they're being shutout 25 minutes in?

mauchow · 11-07-2013, 09:11 PM

23 rushes in the first half for Gafney. Wow.

jbergey22 · 11-07-2013, 09:15 PM

It is just crazy how well Stanford plays these Ducks.

JonInMiddleGA · 11-07-2013, 09:46 PM

I don't think there's any such thing as a safe lead against Oregon ... but Stanford sure has put themselves in position for the upset.

Matthean · 11-07-2013, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by BishopMVP

Nothing like judging a team based of 5 drives, when 1.5 of them were successful (FG, missed FG). Can we write off Oregon's offense since they're being shutout 25 minutes in?

I'm just saying it might be a little early to say how many points Baylor would score considering they are finally playing their first team with a pulse and to imply Baylor and Oregon could score 100+.

Matthean · 11-07-2013, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

I don't think there's any such thing as a safe lead against Oregon ... but Stanford sure has put themselves in position for the upset.

Is it really an upset when it keeps happening? Oregon continues to prove they are nothing more than a paper tiger.

JonInMiddleGA · 11-07-2013, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Matthean

Is it really an upset when it keeps happening? Oregon continues to prove they are nothing more than a paper tiger.

When one team is positioned for a possible national title much better than the other, yeah, I'd say that's an upset.

SirFozzie · 11-07-2013, 10:02 PM

The good news for FSU is that Oregon is being dumped out of the national title picture.

The bad news for FSU is Baylor and Stanford are making claims for being IN the national picture.

jbergey22 · 11-07-2013, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Matthean

I'm just saying it might be a little early to say how many points Baylor would score considering they are finally playing their first team with a pulse and to imply Baylor and Oregon could score 100+.

I guess I dont feel it is too early at all to make that statement. Since they both play fast they will each run around 90-100 plays. With them 2 offenses running that many plays I have little doubt the score would reach triple digits. Baylor has scored 70 4 times already this year.

I guess we could look and see how many times either of the two teams have been held under 50 the past 2 years. I am sure the number is very small.

I think we can agree Alabama again has a top defense and once they got into a run and gun game with Texas A&M that game ended up with over 90 points. It is just ridiculous how fast some of these teams play not so much the defenses they face. Baylor is usually running out the clock in the 2nd half and still putting up 70s.

MizzouRah · 11-07-2013, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerSimpson98

Better yet, what if the rumors were PINKEL going to Texas and not Saban?

Maybe Pinkel to Rhode Island or Saban to Utah?

Matthean · 11-07-2013, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

When one team is positioned for a possible national title much better than the other, yeah, I'd say that's an upset.

So the exact same thing keeps happening again.

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Originally Posted by SirFozzie

The good news for FSU is that Oregon is being dumped out of the national title picture.

The bad news for FSU is Baylor and Stanford are making claims for being IN the national picture.

Stanford isn't jumping enough teams to matter unless those teams also lose. This is the problem with the Pac-10 right now. There is always one loss in there that shouldn't be.

BishopMVP · 11-07-2013, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Matthean

I'm just saying it might be a little early to say how many points Baylor would score considering they are finally playing their first team with a pulse and to imply Baylor and Oregon could score 100+.

And I'm saying we can all watch Oregon getting shut out and know they're better than they're showing... so to write Baylor's offense off based on 3 early stops by Oklahoma was even more premature - as evidenced by the 5 TD's and 2 FG attempts in their next 8 drives against a top 10 team. This Baylor offense has really good athletes (although Reese and Martin might be injured) and the system works - they've been putting up points for 3-4 years now.

Matthean · 11-07-2013, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BishopMVP

Can we write off Oregon's offense since they're being shutout 25 minutes in?

(looks around)

Yes.

jbergey22 · 11-07-2013, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Matthean

(looks around)

Yes.

Yes the offense has been bad as well. But they cant get the ball from Stanford either so both parts of their game are flawed tonight. Stanford is just taking the air out of the ball so well tonight and not letting Oregon get in any rhythm.

MrBug708 · 11-07-2013, 10:14 PM

The Pac12 is still the only conference that will a actively screw its best team out of a title game

bhlloy · 11-07-2013, 10:15 PM

Still not seeing anything like an NFL QB in Mariota's game. You can argue he might be similar to Kaepernick but I don't think he has the arm strength, and his accuracy and pocket presence is nothing like you want to see in an NFL prospect

BishopMVP · 11-07-2013, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SirFozzie

The good news for FSU is that Oregon is being dumped out of the national title picture.

The bad news for FSU is Baylor and Stanford are making claims for being IN the national picture.

If FSU (and Alabama) wins out, they're in the title game, and both deservedly so. Things will get interesting if one of those two does - I think undefeated Baylor has the edge over undefeated Ohio State and 1-loss Stanford/Oregon/FSU/Alabama, but all those teams would be close. Too bad the 4-team playoff doesn't start this year.

BishopMVP · 11-07-2013, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by bhlloy

Still not seeing anything like an NFL QB in Mariota's game. You can argue he might be similar to Kaepernick but I don't think he has the arm strength, and his accuracy and pocket presence is nothing like you want to see in an NFL prospect

Arm strength is there I think - he underthrew that early deep ball, but he's had plenty of zip on is passes. The problem like you said is accuracy, especially when he's on the run or feeling pressure.

JonInMiddleGA · 11-07-2013, 10:18 PM

Question: is Baylor's defense better than thought? Or was Oklahoma just that inept against it once they got behind? I mean, they gave up one score basically, Oklahoma isn't that bad.

The computers have loved Stanford more than Baylor to this point but the Bears SOS will get steadily better from here on out. That seems like enough to push them ahead of Stanford by the end of the year even if the Cardinal do win tonight.

jbergey22 · 11-07-2013, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Question: is Baylor's defense better than thought? Or was Oklahoma just that inept against it once they got behind? I mean, they gave up one score basically, Oklahoma isn't that bad.

The computers have loved Stanford more than Baylor to this point but the Bears SOS will get steadily better from here on out. That seems like enough to push them ahead of Stanford by the end of the year even if the Cardinal do win tonight.

I think Baylors defense is a bit underrated based on the past but I also think Oklahoma isnt anything special this year. Blake Bell has a lot of flaws as a QB.

Baylor still has a lot to prove with some more difficult games coming up.

bhlloy · 11-07-2013, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by BishopMVP

Arm strength is there I think - he underthrew that early deep ball, but he's had plenty of zip on is passes. The problem like you said is accuracy, especially when he's on the run or feeling pressure.

Yeah I don't think he has a weak arm, but I also don't think he has a gun like Kapernick has, which made him such an intriguing prospect. Maybe I'm underselling him but every time I see him putting up silly stats it's his receivers making a lot of plays

EDIT - and I'm not saying he's not worth a high-ish pick based on upside. But I see a lot of places have him as a top 5 pick, which I don't see at all.

Kodos · 11-07-2013, 10:23 PM

Stanford has been a thing of beauty tonight. Love watching them kick Oregon's ass.

tarcone · 11-07-2013, 10:32 PM

I thought Baylor was for real. This confirms it.
I didnt think Oregon was this beatable. Wow. Stanford just manhandling them.

Matthean · 11-07-2013, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by bhlloy

Still not seeing anything like an NFL QB in Mariota's game. You can argue he might be similar to Kaepernick but I don't think he has the arm strength, and his accuracy and pocket presence is nothing like you want to see in an NFL prospect

2014 NFL Mock Draft: Marcus Mariota leaps ahead of Teddy Bridgewater as No. 1 pick - NFL - Sporting News

SirFozzie · 11-07-2013, 10:53 PM

Oh my, this game is getting weird...

chadritt · 11-07-2013, 10:54 PM

I want to watch but Oregon only started scoring the moment I switched over...

kingfc22 · 11-07-2013, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SirFozzie

Oh my, this game is getting weird...

Getting even weirder

bhlloy · 11-07-2013, 11:00 PM

Yeesh, this could be an all time collapse

Matthean · 11-07-2013, 11:06 PM

It would have been interesting to see how pollsters would have reacted had Oregon won.

bhlloy · 11-07-2013, 11:12 PM

I still think it's interesting to see how the last 5 mins play into the pollsters mind, given how many quality one win teams could be left. Holding Oregon to 7 and winning by 20+ superficially looks a lot better than winning by 6, even though it shouldn't

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BishopMVP Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Concord, MA/UMass	So Jaboo plays without his contacts in? Is he playing with house rules so he doesn't dominate too much? Jameis Winston of Florida State Seminoles says squinting is 'a habit' - ESPN Last edited by BishopMVP : 11-07-2013 at 02:38 PM.

11-07-2013, 03:28 PM	#55
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	I can't wait for kickoff of both games __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint Last edited by cartman : 11-07-2013 at 03:28 PM.

11-07-2013, 06:36 PM	#59
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	There aren't going to be too many people missing Floyd Casey Stadium when it is closed after this season. There are high school stadiums better than that place. __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

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cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	Baylor's defense has been impressive __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

11-07-2013, 03:21 PM	#54
digamma Torchbearer Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: On Lake Harriet	And dola... I honestly don't know what to make of the games tonight. I want to say both big offenses roll, but Stanford seems to have Oregon's number and OU-Baylor is, well, OU-Baylor.

11-07-2013, 03:40 PM	#56
HomerSimpson98 High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Cowtown, TX	Yeah tonight is going to be delicious. I'm looking forward to Baylor playing a decent defense and I am really hoping OU gives them a kick in the teeth just so all these pretty boy baptists can go back to their little corner of the Interwebs. But hey, the tarp is off!! Way to go guys. And something tells me that the Tree knocks off the Ducks again. Looking for another instant classic here. Friday could be a rough morning.

11-07-2013, 07:53 PM	#62
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	Top of the 5th and it's 5 to 3 Sooners leading.

11-07-2013, 08:47 PM	#69
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Time to see what Oregon is made of

11-07-2013, 09:11 PM	#72
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	23 rushes in the first half for Gafney. Wow.

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jbergey22 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Minnesota	It is just crazy how well Stanford plays these Ducks.

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JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	I don't think there's any such thing as a safe lead against Oregon ... but Stanford sure has put themselves in position for the upset. __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

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SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	The good news for FSU is that Oregon is being dumped out of the national title picture. The bad news for FSU is Baylor and Stanford are making claims for being IN the national picture. __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

11-07-2013, 10:14 PM	#85
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	The Pac12 is still the only conference that will a actively screw its best team out of a title game

11-07-2013, 10:15 PM	#86
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	Still not seeing anything like an NFL QB in Mariota's game. You can argue he might be similar to Kaepernick but I don't think he has the arm strength, and his accuracy and pocket presence is nothing like you want to see in an NFL prospect

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JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	Question: is Baylor's defense better than thought? Or was Oklahoma just that inept against it once they got behind? I mean, they gave up one score basically, Oklahoma isn't that bad. The computers have loved Stanford more than Baylor to this point but the Bears SOS will get steadily better from here on out. That seems like enough to push them ahead of Stanford by the end of the year even if the Cardinal do win tonight. __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

11-07-2013, 10:23 PM	#92
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11-07-2013, 10:32 PM	#93
tarcone Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Pacific	I thought Baylor was for real. This confirms it. I didnt think Oregon was this beatable. Wow. Stanford just manhandling them. __________________ Excuses are for wusses- Spencer Lee Punting is Winning- Tory Taylor The word is Fight! Fight! Fight! For Iowa FOFC 30 Dollar Challenge Champion-OOTP '15

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11-07-2013, 10:54 PM	#96
chadritt High School Varsity Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA	I want to watch but Oregon only started scoring the moment I switched over...

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bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	Yeesh, this could be an all time collapse

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bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	I still think it's interesting to see how the last 5 mins play into the pollsters mind, given how many quality one win teams could be left. Holding Oregon to 7 and winning by 20+ superficially looks a lot better than winning by 6, even though it shouldn't

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