Official College Football Week 7 thread - Page 2

Chief Rum · 10-08-2013, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by clemsonfan

I sure did. Point?

He's probably saying he doesn't believe Ohio State deserves to be in that group, based on the schedule they have played. I tend to agree (otherwise, I am with you).

HomerSimpson98 · 10-08-2013, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by digamma

It really pains me to say it, but Georgia is a legit top five, if not top two team. I haven't seen Mizzou play a down of football, but if it is a game in the fourth quarter I'll be quite impressed.

A healthy UGA team - yes. But with all the injuries, I don't see how they keep winning. I think even as overrated as UF is, they beat the Dawgs, as does either Auburn or GT. Especially if Gurley is out for an extended period of time.

digamma · 10-08-2013, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

He's probably saying he doesn't believe Ohio State deserves to be in that group, based on the schedule they have played. I tend to agree (otherwise, I am with you).

That plus they're like 1-[fill in big number here] in their last however many games against SEC teams.

Crapshoot · 10-08-2013, 04:02 PM

Good on David Shaw - Sark's allegations are BS, especially coming from a school whose coach has admitted to the same sin:

Stanford coach David Shaw blasts Washington for accusing Cardinal of faking injuries - Yahoo Sports

Crapshoot · 10-08-2013, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by digamma

No bubble to burst. I am as predisposed to dislike UGA as much or more than anyone on this board. Let's see where we are at the end of November. My fear is that it is an 11-1 UGA team playing Alabama for a spot in the national title game.

I'd assume its Ohio State or the Pac-12 champion playing Alabama, but who knows.

digamma · 10-08-2013, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerSimpson98

A healthy UGA team - yes. But with all the injuries, I don't see how they keep winning. I think even as overrated as UF is, they beat the Dawgs, as does either Auburn or GT. Especially if Gurley is out for an extended period of time.

I think the UF game could be interesting. Florida's defense is still very good despite losing Easley and the new QB looks like he has a pretty good feel for the game. I'll be interested to see how they do against LSU.

I'm not sure Auburn is there yet. And I know my own team (GT) isn't. I sound like JiMGA, but this is the biggest physical difference between those two teams in about 12 years.

duckman · 10-08-2013, 04:08 PM

Just for cartman.

Chief Rum · 10-08-2013, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Crapshoot

I'd assume its Ohio State or the Pac-12 champion playing Alabama, but who knows.

If the winner of the Clemson/FSU game wins out, I think they will leapfrog the weaker scheduled undefeated Ohio State. I think an undefeated Pac 12 team trumps either Ohio State or an ACC team, since thee three primary remaining undefeated candidates (Oregon, Stanford, UCLA) all play each other round robin style and have a conference champ game to play, too.

I think it's possible that a one loss SEC team with strong results otherwise could leap over one of the above possibilities except an undefeated Pac 12 champ. I also think that a one-loss Pac-12 team has a chance to leap over an undefeated Ohio State team.

Okay, yeah, not a big believer that the Ohio State hype will keep them above these other teams when those teams start earnin wins against major ranked opponents.

chadritt · 10-08-2013, 04:21 PM

I don't see how an undefeated FSU or Clemson doesn't at least leapfrog Ohio State. I haven't watched an Oregon or Stanford game this year so I don't know if they would stay ahead.

Matthean · 10-08-2013, 04:37 PM

I think either would bypass OSU, but there's no way an undefeated Clemson team isn't ahead of OSU. They would have beaten Georgia and FSU. Either one of those would be more worthy than whoever OSU beats in the Big Ten.

HerRealName · 10-08-2013, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Matthean

I think either would bypass OSU, but there's no way an undefeated Clemson team isn't ahead of OSU. They would have beaten Georgia and FSU. Either one of those would be more worthy than whoever OSU beats in the Big Ten.

Giving up on Michigan's season already?

MizzouRah · 10-08-2013, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Butter_of_69

Injuries or not, Missouri has played a pretty horrible schedule. Sure, the road win at Vandy should count for something, but it really doesn't. Vandy is terrible this year.

I expect UGa to win by at least 2 touchdowns.

You could be right.. and I wouldn't be shocked if they did win by 2 TD's. Our defense is horrible.. so there's that.

JPhillips · 10-08-2013, 05:04 PM

FSU would have to beat Clemson, Miami and Florida. No way they don't leapfrog OSU.

The only way OSU ends up in the tile game is if they are one of two undefeateds not named Louisville.

BishopMVP · 10-08-2013, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Sak

Correct. If it is blocked behind the line, and stays behind the line, Team A can run, pass, or punt the ball.

Huh. Didn't know you could punt it a 2nd time. I still think it would be cool to try a rugby-style punt if the other team is't really rushing where you try to hit a low liner that bounces off the back of a lineman running with his back turned to go set up the return blocking.

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Ummm...no. Gonna have to disagree with you there. They have a loss. Clemson beat them. It was not as close as UGA fans claim. Alabama, Oregon, Clemson, FSU and Ohio State are all better than UGA. Maybe even Stanford. Sorry to burst your bubble there.

Clemson won, it was a great win, but they won by 3 at home in a game Georgia had both more passing yards and more rushing yards than them and had a bad snap cost them a chip shot FG. It was a pretty close game.

MrBug708 · 10-08-2013, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Crapshoot

Good on David Shaw - Sark's allegations are BS, especially coming from a school whose coach has admitted to the same sin:

Stanford coach David Shaw blasts Washington for accusing Cardinal of faking injuries - Yahoo Sports

I know David Shaw has to take this stance because it's pretty gamey to do so. And I don't have a problem with him defending his program, but only a real Stanford homer (do they exist?) would say that Stanford wasn't faking injuries in that game. Shaw might not have dialed in the code red, but watching it sorta made it pretty obvious that Stanford's defense was employing the Mexican soccer player actions.

clemsonfan · 10-08-2013, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Matthean

I think either would bypass OSU, but there's no way an undefeated Clemson team isn't ahead of OSU. They would have beaten Georgia and FSU. Either one of those would be more worthy than whoever OSU beats in the Big Ten.

this.

clemsonfan · 10-08-2013, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BishopMVP

Huh. Didn't know you could punt it a 2nd time. I still think it would be cool to try a rugby-style punt if the other team is't really rushing where you try to hit a low liner that bounces off the back of a lineman running with his back turned to go set up the return blocking.Clemson won, it was a great win, but they won by 3 at home in a game Georgia had both more passing yards and more rushing yards than them and had a bad snap cost them a chip shot FG. It was a pretty close game.

Not really. Clemson was up by 10 near the end of the game. Clemson was more interested in letting the clock run than UGA scoring a meaningless TD.

MrBug708 · 10-08-2013, 07:08 PM

Washington State flag streak to survive Washington's College GameDay - SBNation.com

I can't believe this is serious. I'm sure anyone who follows college football knows about the WSU flag being at every gameday for about a decade. Well, now it's getting absurd.

dawgfan · 10-08-2013, 07:18 PM

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Washington State flag streak to survive Washington's College GameDay - SBNation.com

I can't believe this is serious. I'm sure anyone who follows college football knows about the WSU flag being at every gameday for about a decade. Well, now it's getting absurd.

Are you new to college football? You're aware that there's a metric shit-ton of immaturity that surrounds rivalries, right?

So while I'm disgusted at fellow Washington fans that have tried to rally folks to prevent the Coug flag from flying (and fuck that loudmouth Softy for trying to spread this idea on the air and on Twitter), I can't say I'm surprised.

Fortunately I've seen a number of more mature, cooler heads telling folks to calm the fuck down. Both from the Cougar side - folks telling their fellow fans to be respectful of Washington's Gameday - as well as Washington fans telling their fellow fans to mellow out and don't do anything stupid.

dawgfan · 10-08-2013, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBug708

I know David Shaw has to take this stance because it's pretty gamey to do so. And I don't have a problem with him defending his program, but only a real Stanford homer (do they exist?) would say that Stanford wasn't faking injuries in that game. Shaw might not have dialed in the code red, but watching it sorta made it pretty obvious that Stanford's defense was employing the Mexican soccer player actions.

This. For Shaw to try to claim with a straight face that Stanford has never resorted to this is laughable - Chase Thomas vs. Oregon in 2010 says "hi!".

Skov might have been legitimately banged-up. Gardner on the other hand - he should consider an acting career when he hangs up his helmet.

JonInMiddleGA · 10-08-2013, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBug708

I'm sure anyone who follows college football knows about the WSU flag being at every gameday for about a decade.

Huh?

MrBug708 · 10-08-2013, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Huh?

I'm guessing you don't watch gameday?

MrBug708 · 10-08-2013, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by dawgfan

This. For Shaw to try to claim with a straight face that Stanford has never resorted to this is laughable - Chase Thomas vs. Oregon in 2010 says "hi!".

Skov might have been legitimately banged-up. Gardner on the other hand - he should consider an acting career when he hangs up his helmet.

Gardner faked an injury on a hit last year (literally took a dive) and was smiling all the way to the sideline.

dawgfan · 10-08-2013, 07:41 PM

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Gardner faked an injury on a hit last year (literally took a dive) and was smiling all the way to the sideline.

It's a shame. I really want to like Stanford - fantastic school, I have relatives that went there, beautiful campus. They play a style of football that reminds me a lot of the Don James era Huskies. But Harbaugh and now Shaw have made that basically impossible.

Matthean · 10-08-2013, 08:06 PM

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Giving up on Michigan's season already?

I'm a realist in terms of their chances. Michigan's D is widely inconsistent. Their pass rush is lacking so Miller will have plenty of time to do what he needs for running and passing. The secondary is solid and the D does tend to show up when it really needs to, but Minnesota and other teams have had drives where they had little issue against Michigan. OSU will challenge that defense far more. The running game has been subpar. Even against Minnesota the ypc was lower than desired and it's not like they are known for a stellar run defense. The passing game is much like the rest of the team. It could be awesome. It could more TO prone than anything in the NCAA. Lets call the Minnesota game as Gardner's best. He didn't even attempt a pass in the first quarter I'm guessing because the coaching staff wanted to take pressure off of him. Gardner has a ton of talent, but he has a fragile psyche at this point.

The plus side is the defense has always seemed to get better under Hoke as the year went along. Ryan coming back can only help. Hopefully the offense gets better and Gardner feels more comfortable playing the position. I think part of the growing pains for the team is its youth and figuring out just where all of the parts go. I don't see Funchess going back to TE, and he's going to be hell for teams to cover. He's slightly bigger than Mike Evans of A&M by a couple of pounds. I would love to be proven wrong and maybe for whatever reason OSU doesn't bring its A game, but OSU should be winning that game.

Matthean · 10-08-2013, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BishopMVP

Clemson won, it was a great win, but they won by 3 at home in a game Georgia had both more passing yards and more rushing yards than them and had a bad snap cost them a chip shot FG. It was a pretty close game.

They only thing people care about is that Clemson won. If it was about the most yards and such, Oregon would be in every title game.

JonInMiddleGA · 10-08-2013, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBug708

I'm guessing you don't watch gameday?

Rarely, and only for a bit.

When you said

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WSU flag being at every gameday

. I took that to mean "gameday" as in the literal on-site of a game, not Gameday the name of the show.

I wasn't aware of any notable tradition involving the WSU flag period, which seemed odd in the context of college football in general, I know about other random traditions & such. Now that I realize that you're (apparently) talking about something specific to the Gameday show, it's not nearly as odd that I haven't the foggiest clue what you were talking about.

cartman · 10-08-2013, 10:18 PM

Always a great pic to bring up this time of year:

Matthean · 10-08-2013, 11:04 PM

Unfortunately, Texas is usually getting it's tail handed to itself since Stoops became the coach.

BishopMVP · 10-09-2013, 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Matthean

They only thing people care about is that Clemson won. If it was about the most yards and such, Oregon would be in every title game.

I know, and Clemson would still get credit in the polls for the win even if they had only won due to 3 fluky plays and 2 terrible calls by the referees. It just seems weird to claim it wasn't a very close game when it was a tie game after the 1st quarter, a tie game at halftime, a 3-pt Clemson lead after the 3rd Q (right after Georgia botched the snap on a FG that would have tied it), a 3-pt game with 8 minutes to go, and a 3-pt final.

But hey, I also don't get why a Clemson fan would be the one claiming Georgia - the one good team they've beaten - is overrated. I'd think it makes more sense to argue they're a legitimate top 5 team (or at least were when they were healthy and Clemson beat them.)

clemsonfan · 10-09-2013, 05:19 AM

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I know, and Clemson would still get credit in the polls for the win even if they had only won due to 3 fluky plays and 2 terrible calls by the referees. It just seems weird to claim it wasn't a very close game when it was a tie game after the 1st quarter, a tie game at halftime, a 3-pt Clemson lead after the 3rd Q (right after Georgia botched the snap on a FG that would have tied it), a 3-pt game with 8 minutes to go, and a 3-pt final.

But hey, I also don't get why a Clemson fan would be the one claiming Georgia - the one good team they've beaten - is overrated. I'd think it makes more sense to argue they're a legitimate top 5 team (or at least were when they were healthy and Clemson beat them.)

Because I would not be telling the truth. Sorry, UGA is not a top 5 team. I will say they are a top 10 team. You don't need to tell me about the UGA/Clemson game, I saw it in person. I saw the streams of UGA fans pour out in the early 4th quarter, because even they saw that they were not going to win that game.

People are just biased towards the SEC. http://espn.go.com/blog/acc/post/_/i...wed?src=mobile

JonInMiddleGA · 10-09-2013, 07:18 AM

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Because I would not be telling the truth. Sorry, UGA is not a top 5 team. I will say they are a top 10 team. You don't need to tell me about the UGA/Clemson game, I saw it in person.

You didn't even have to be there, that was clear just from watching on television. The SEC, overall (and quite possibly from top to bottom) is down this year or at least it appears to be to this point.

I believe the previous gap between them & the rest of the country obscures that to some extent (I've still got 6 teams in my top 18) but if you watch enough of it I'm not sure how anyone can deny it.

HomerSimpson98 · 10-09-2013, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

You didn't even have to be there, that was clear just from watching on television. The SEC, overall (and quite possibly from top to bottom) is down this year or at least it appears to be to this point.

I believe the previous gap between them & the rest of the country obscures that to some extent (I've still got 6 teams in my top 18) but if you watch enough of it I'm not sure how anyone can deny it.

agreed

CU Tiger · 10-09-2013, 05:07 PM

People forget in that uga game Clemson specifically Martavis Bryant dropped 3 balls where he was behind the secondary.

Uga is a very very good team. And I'm not sure who would win but based on resume I can't say they should be ahead of fsu, Clemson, Bama Oregon Stamford or even Miami at this point.

Now quite honestly I think Bama is way down from years past. As a Clemson gan they don't scare me the way Oregon does. I would expect uga to beat Bama head to head...that would make seeding interesting

tarcone · 10-09-2013, 09:29 PM

Iowa makes news in the bye week. Our "superior" coach has decided that if we cant stop a fake punt, we wont return punts. Jeez, we need a new A.D. and HC.

Kirk Ferentz is considering having his team never return a punt again this season | Dr. Saturday - Yahoo Sports

Passacaglia · 10-10-2013, 09:27 AM

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I read on a message board through a source that at one point he refused to do any training and got into an altercation with a coach, challenging him to a fight. Apparently the locker room is divided.

Just a rumor though.

I think that was *this* message board, in the thread for last week.

gstelmack · 10-10-2013, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by tarcone

Iowa makes news in the bye week. Our "superior" coach has decided that if we cant stop a fake punt, we wont return punts. Jeez, we need a new A.D. and HC.

Kirk Ferentz is considering having his team never return a punt again this season | Dr. Saturday - Yahoo Sports

TMQ has been on a crusade for a long time to get teams to line up 10 or 11 to rush the punt, saying the reason for so few blocks is teams put more effort into the return, while when they really go after the block, they often get it. I wonder what would happen if, much like the "always go for it on 4th" philosophy, a coach decided to always go for the block.

Logan · 10-10-2013, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

I think that was *this* message board, in the thread for last week.

HerRealName · 10-10-2013, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by gstelmack

TMQ has been on a crusade for a long time to get teams to line up 10 or 11 to rush the punt, saying the reason for so few blocks is teams put more effort into the return, while when they really go after the block, they often get it. I wonder what would happen if, much like the "always go for it on 4th" philosophy, a coach decided to always go for the block.

A lot more roughing the punter penalties would be a side effect.

Logan · 10-10-2013, 10:24 AM

While trying to keep my mind occupied ahead of Rutgers-Louisville tonight (since work is clearly not happening) I was thinking of how different things would be right now if Miami gave Randy Shannon one more year, or if Bridgewater upheld his commitment to Miami after he was fired.

For one, Miami would be firmly in the National Championship conversation right now, if not a top contender. Charlie Strong is likely earning millions of dollars less without a premier QB leading him to big things. Rutgers would have ended up in the Sugar Bowl last year, and Florida wouldn't have had that embarrassing loss. And I wouldn't be so god damned stressed right now.

HerRealName · 10-10-2013, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Matthean

I'm a realist in terms of their chances. Michigan's D is widely inconsistent. Their pass rush is lacking so Miller will have plenty of time to do what he needs for running and passing. The secondary is solid and the D does tend to show up when it really needs to, but Minnesota and other teams have had drives where they had little issue against Michigan. OSU will challenge that defense far more. The running game has been subpar. Even against Minnesota the ypc was lower than desired and it's not like they are known for a stellar run defense. The passing game is much like the rest of the team. It could be awesome. It could more TO prone than anything in the NCAA. Lets call the Minnesota game as Gardner's best. He didn't even attempt a pass in the first quarter I'm guessing because the coaching staff wanted to take pressure off of him. Gardner has a ton of talent, but he has a fragile psyche at this point.

The plus side is the defense has always seemed to get better under Hoke as the year went along. Ryan coming back can only help. Hopefully the offense gets better and Gardner feels more comfortable playing the position. I think part of the growing pains for the team is its youth and figuring out just where all of the parts go. I don't see Funchess going back to TE, and he's going to be hell for teams to cover. He's slightly bigger than Mike Evans of A&M by a couple of pounds. I would love to be proven wrong and maybe for whatever reason OSU doesn't bring its A game, but OSU should be winning that game.

The PSU game this weekend will be very interesting. Michigan is a mystery to me but I think this game should tell us a lot.

dawgfan · 10-10-2013, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by gstelmack

TMQ has been on a crusade for a long time to get teams to line up 10 or 11 to rush the punt, saying the reason for so few blocks is teams put more effort into the return, while when they really go after the block, they often get it. I wonder what would happen if, much like the "always go for it on 4th" philosophy, a coach decided to always go for the block.

Considering the number of times punts don't get returned anyway when a team is trying to set up for one, I'd rather my team went for the block far more often.

Logan · 10-10-2013, 02:49 PM

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Considering the number of times punts don't get returned anyway when a team is trying to set up for one, I'd rather my team went for the block far more often.

Rutgers has been the most successful kick blocking team in the country since 2009 (32, next closest is Fresno State with 24) although those of course aren't just punts. Prior to this season, we were pretty much employing this strategy and my advice based on my own anecdotal observations is that it isn't worth it if you don't have a good punter on your own side. Otherwise, you can really get killed when it comes to field position over the course of a game.

panerd · 10-10-2013, 03:21 PM

Yes I would think a little more goes into punting then just kicking the ball hard (hang time/directing away from a good return man...) . However when the entire team lines up to block you just have to kick the ball as hard as you can. Seems like a terrible strategy.

HomerSimpson98 · 10-10-2013, 03:43 PM

Or simply throw it to one of the uncovered "blockers" for a 50-yard gain.

Passacaglia · 10-10-2013, 03:53 PM

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Or simply throw it to one of the uncovered "blockers" for a 50-yard gain.

Since this whole thing started as an attempt to prevent fake punts working, I'm guessing Ferentz's alternative isn't to rush 10 or 11 guys straight for the punter, but to play a base defense.

Matthean · 10-10-2013, 04:09 PM

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tarcone · 10-10-2013, 05:13 PM

Yes. I imagine we are going to play a base defense. And hope their 10 blockers cant beat our 11 defenders and get a 1st down. Of course, the alternate is to teach your players how to defend against a fake while setting up a return. But that is way over the head of our coaching staff.

General Mike · 10-10-2013, 07:21 PM

Why do I even bother?

miked · 10-10-2013, 07:58 PM

Fucking Gary Nova. Never understood why they were so content with him at QB. Bring back Dodd!

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Matthean Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Aug 2008	I think either would bypass OSU, but there's no way an undefeated Clemson team isn't ahead of OSU. They would have beaten Georgia and FSU. Either one of those would be more worthy than whoever OSU beats in the Big Ten. __________________ Board games: Bringing people back to the original social network, the table.

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Crapshoot Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2003	Good on David Shaw - Sark's allegations are BS, especially coming from a school whose coach has admitted to the same sin: Stanford coach David Shaw blasts Washington for accusing Cardinal of faking injuries - Yahoo Sports

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chadritt High School Varsity Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA	I don't see how an undefeated FSU or Clemson doesn't at least leapfrog Ohio State. I haven't watched an Oregon or Stanford game this year so I don't know if they would stay ahead.

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CU Tiger Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Backwoods, SC	People forget in that uga game Clemson specifically Martavis Bryant dropped 3 balls where he was behind the secondary. Uga is a very very good team. And I'm not sure who would win but based on resume I can't say they should be ahead of fsu, Clemson, Bama Oregon Stamford or even Miami at this point. Now quite honestly I think Bama is way down from years past. As a Clemson gan they don't scare me the way Oregon does. I would expect uga to beat Bama head to head...that would make seeding interesting

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Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	While trying to keep my mind occupied ahead of Rutgers-Louisville tonight (since work is clearly not happening) I was thinking of how different things would be right now if Miami gave Randy Shannon one more year, or if Bridgewater upheld his commitment to Miami after he was fired. For one, Miami would be firmly in the National Championship conversation right now, if not a top contender. Charlie Strong is likely earning millions of dollars less without a premier QB leading him to big things. Rutgers would have ended up in the Sugar Bowl last year, and Florida wouldn't have had that embarrassing loss. And I wouldn't be so god damned stressed right now.

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