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22. If you have eight members in your family and take up two whole rows and two of three seats in another row, don't put the car seat for your child in the row with another passenger.
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06-23-2014, 03:26 PM | #52 | |
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06-23-2014, 03:27 PM | #53 |
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06-23-2014, 03:29 PM | #54 | |
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06-23-2014, 03:40 PM | #55 |
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I know many parents don't believe in using pacifiers in general, but I think there are situations (like airplanes), where a few hours with a pacifier isn't going to do any damage.
- If you're just five feet tall and the person behind you is more than six feet tall, don't recline your seat. Under any circumstances, don't recline your seat without polite discussion with the person behind you. - If you're naturally hyperactive, take a sedative before flying. You're too close to others to be bouncing like that without making them want to kill you (slowly and painfully). - Learn to chew gum with your mouth closed. - When walking down the aisle, the headrests of other people's seats are not your personal exercise equipment. - Don't stand in the aisles having conversations with your friends and family while the attendants are trying to serve drinks and people are trying to get to the bathrooms. If you can't book a seat in the same row, you need to be able to get through the trip without those long, meaningful conversations about the worthless crap you want to buy from the duty-free magazines. (for the flight attendants) - please remember that your bosses have cut costs so much that flying is a miserable experience for travelers. And this is after they spend far too long waiting in long, miserable lines only to have their crotches grabbed by strangers (and not in a good way). Please be patient with them, and, later, they will recognize that you do the best you can under very difficult circumstances. |
06-23-2014, 04:12 PM | #56 | |
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I've given up on trying to calculate the odds of this happening to me so often. Statistically speaking, I'm pretty much guaranteed to be one of the 2-3 tallest people on a given flight, and there aren't that many passengers who are big enough assholes to immediately recline their seat for the duration of a non-redeye flight. Yet, there always seems to be a match where someone in the 98th percentile of height is placed immediately behind someone in the 98th percentile of being an asshole. Every seat on an airplane is shitty and it's not like reclining all the way back is going to change that in any meaningful way. All it succeeds in doing is making it a nightmare for the person sitting behind you, and I've gotten to the point that I'm more than happy to dig my knees into the person's back until they return their seat to its original position. Last edited by nol : 06-23-2014 at 04:30 PM. |
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06-23-2014, 04:17 PM | #57 | |
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06-23-2014, 04:54 PM | #58 | |
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Although when someone reclines that rarely impacts the "legroom" area. It's much more of a nuisance in the space above someones legs... Speaking as someone 5'11".
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06-23-2014, 07:32 PM | #59 |
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The whole "don't recline your seat" thing isn't anyone's fault besides the airline's. If I choose to recline the seat, I'm not turning around and evaluating the person behind me before doing so. They might be 5'2" but trying to use a laptop. So height doesn't really matter.
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06-23-2014, 07:37 PM | #60 | |
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06-23-2014, 08:11 PM | #61 |
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I've actually gasped in pain when someone decides to just thrust their seat back as my knees are pushed against the back of it. I do my best to be as small as I can, but sometimes you just get caught off guard. I'd never begrudge someone their comfort, but if I happen to knee the back of your seat multiple times over a flight just from shifting to get more comfortable it's not my problem. It really is the best I can do.
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06-23-2014, 09:08 PM | #62 |
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I think the etiquette is bring it back a bit to let the person behind you now its coming, then slowly go back. The people who just drop back with no warning should be thrown from the plane.
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06-23-2014, 09:25 PM | #63 | |
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06-23-2014, 09:40 PM | #64 | |
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Exactly. If someone keeps the seat in the normal position, I'm fine with sitting in a weird diagonal position to make sure I'm not pushing my knees into his/her back as I shift a few times during the flight so my entire leg doesn't fall asleep. Once that seat goes back, though, all bets are off. |
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06-23-2014, 10:03 PM | #65 | |
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That's exactly how I feel. It's a tight fit, but I do my best because I hate it when people kick me in the back. But if they lean back, it's so tight that I have to be a little careless just to keep the circulation going. I'm only 6-1, but I have long legs. True story. When I was about 15, back when there was a realistic amount of seat pitch, there were a pair of nuns in the seats behind my family on a flight. One of them decided to sit cross-legged and wedge her foot between my seat and my backrest. I ended up getting quite the shock of my young life as she kept pressing forward. So I turned, peered over the back and said, "hey, stop that." She seemed surprised and a little off-put and said, "what's wrong?" For whatever reason, I came up with, "if you knew what you just did to me, you'd have to renounce your vows." I was pissed off, so I just turned back around and tried to get comfortable without waiting for a response. Fortunately, her foot didn't return. |
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06-24-2014, 06:49 AM | #66 |
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06-24-2014, 11:40 AM | #67 |
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23. LISTEN to the announcements. Oh, I understand the safety thing may be a bit old and don't blame your for zoning out, but we are all crammed in here together and we need to be on the same page, so when the captain is speaking ... pay attention.
Case in point: On a delayed flight from LA to San Fran, the crew made an announcement about people having tight connections upon landing. Asked about 5 of us who could still make our connection to raise our hands so we could be identified and asked others to let us off first. I was one of the 5. When we landed, the passengers didn't make way for a single one of the 5 people who raised their hand. All got up and clogged the aisles. Missed my connection and got a lovely 10-hour layover. (Of course, I was flying into San Fran. I guarantee if I was flying into Des Moines, the passengers would have not only stayed out of the aisles to let us pass, but also would have offered to help fetch our bags.)
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06-24-2014, 11:47 AM | #68 |
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I would give that about a 1% chance of ever working out the way the crew hoped it would. All it takes is one guy to get up near the front and everyone goes into their own auto-pilot mode of standing up. They should have seen if a few people up front would swap seats with you.
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06-24-2014, 11:49 AM | #69 | |
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I've seen this in MANY airports and it never happens. It wouldn't have happened in Des Moines either. Basically if you're in that situation you need to get up FAST as soon as the plane touches down and just push your way up front. And if you're in the back of the plane, you're fucked. Then again... (this isn't directed at you revrew) ...I would have been in the aisle too. I fly virtually every week. I get tired of hearing that someone is going to miss their connection every time a plane lands 15 minutes late and that the rest of us should sit there for a while. I have shit to do too and your time isn't more important than mine. It happens every single fucking time and it's often bullshit. I'm tired of people booking flights with 45 minute connections on planes that have an "on time" percent (remember, on time is within 15 minutes of the projected arrival time) of 70% or so. Guess what? Don't book that connection and give yourself some time to get to the next flight. If you book the tight connection trying to save yourself time, don't ask me to waste mine because you didn't plan for a simple 30 minute delay contingency. I hate dealing with connections and avoid them whenever possible, to the point that I'm currently driving an hour and a half to Tampa (when Ft. Myers and Sarasota are both half that distance away) specifically so I can take a direct flight. Last edited by Blackadar : 06-24-2014 at 11:51 AM. |
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06-24-2014, 11:56 AM | #70 |
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Ya, I always aim for 2+ hour layovers. 3 is even better if I can get it. I can always read a book. Not having the stress of missing your connection, especially on a vacation, is worth the time.
On a side tangent about airlines generally, last month I took a few flights on Air Serbia and Lufthansa. What a difference. The Air Serbia planes were old and had little overhead space, but you got a snack box with about 5 different things in it on a 90 minute flight, and you really only needed to get to the airport 45 minutes or so before your flight left. And a 10+ hour flight on Lufthansa is just a completely different experience form the equivalent on United. Last edited by molson : 06-24-2014 at 11:57 AM. |
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Oh, I hear you. I didn't actually expect it to work. As soon as the plan landed, I didn't even really bother, because it was obvious it wasn't gonna happen, and I didn't want to shove 40 people out of the way or climb over seats to get there. My connection was so tight because of the delay, it would have been a crapshoot even if the aisles were clear. But just because I realize things like civilized society, "common" courtesy and kindness have gone in the crapper, doesn't mean I have to like it. I can be curmudgeonly that way
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06-24-2014, 12:22 PM | #72 |
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I've been on numerous planes where people stayed in their seats to let people with tight connections get off first, but it worked because the pilots made the announcement as we were taxiing to the gate, not before we took off. It probably also helped that a couple of those were coming out of the Bahamas where the Air Traffic Controllers were doing their usual takeoff slowdown, so it was understandable connections would be tight.
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06-24-2014, 12:35 PM | #73 | |
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Wouldn't it be common courtesy to book a flight so you didn't have a tight connection and therefore not require everyone to waste their time just to accommodate you? I'm jesting of course, but only partially. As I said, I see this on EVERY flight delayed more than 15 minutes and I'm so sick of it I don't pay attention to the announcement anymore. When people book a 35 minute connection in a large airport and the plane is on time only 70% of the time, they're going to miss that connection 1/3rd of the time. They played the odds and lost and that's their problem. I'm not wasting my time anymore because other people aren't responsible or intelligent enough to book their flights accordingly. Of course when it's a two hour delay I'm more likely to accommodate those passengers. But I'm also damn impatient to get off the plane because two hours of my life was already wasted! |
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06-24-2014, 12:55 PM | #74 | |
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I've been on flights where it goes either way. I'd say it's more like 2/3rds don't but 1/3rd do, but, again, a lot of my flights are in the Midwest. Sometimes people are nice and let people by, sometimes they aren't. I've barely made flights, I've missed flights, and I've been stuck at an airport for 4 hours on a layover- it's the luck of the draw. Unless I'm on that tight connection or schedule, I'll let people by, personally. But if everyone else is getting up, I'll get up, too. It seems like there's a critical mass- if enough people don't bolt to the exits, everyone plays along and is nice. If a lot of people in those front rows rush into the aisle, there's no hope for the connectors. However, I think, especially with increased airline consolidation, you end up with a lot of options of 45 minute connection or 4 hour connection with nothing inbetween. Personally, I can't remember the last time I did a sub 1 hour connection and I will actively avoid them at places like Atlanta or Chicago where your odds of making that connection are next to 0. Plus, there are a lot of places where you fly that you don't have the option of driving an hour to get to another airport. And one could argue it's another matter when it's a person's bucks they are putting towards travel versus company expenses: it's a little harder to argue when you're talking someone else's $250 to move your flight versus your own $1000 to change your family of 4's flight. I'm just saying it's not quite as simple as you're making it out to be. And I disagree that it's not wholly on the people making the tight connections. If you're going to get up and block the way, you might be acting a little bit selfish and asshatish. But just like a lot of other people on that plane. (EDIT: And air travel just seems to bring out some of the worst in people). SI
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06-24-2014, 01:26 PM | #75 | |
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No, it's not that simple. It's situational. It's just that many times the tight connection is simply due to poor planning on the part of flyer. Poor planning on their part doesn't constitute an emergency upon mine. If you're booking the Cincy > La Guardia 6:00 PM flight that's on time only 19% of the time (no kidding), don't expect me to remain seated while you're trying to catch a tight connection. I entirely agree that air travel makes most everyone just a little bit asshatish. It's a fairly miserable experience. I thought some older man was going to get into it with a Hispanic guy for "line cutting" last week...and they hadn't even boarded first class yet! Last edited by Blackadar : 06-24-2014 at 01:28 PM. |
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06-24-2014, 04:02 PM | #76 | |
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07-03-2014, 07:03 AM | #77 |
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Thank you TSA precheck! Painless security process... Crazy, I know!!
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I would like to extend this to baggage claim. You don't need to bust through a group of peopl to fling your bag from the carousel into my knees. The beauty of baggage claim is if you miss your bag it will roll back around in two minutes.
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07-03-2014, 10:02 AM | #79 | |
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I see the opposite problem all the time. Everyone crowding around the conveyor and laving no room to get to your bags. If everyone takes 3 steps back you an step up one at a time grab your shit and haul...but no lets surround the weird moving belt thing and kill it. |
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07-03-2014, 12:21 PM | #81 |
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07-03-2014, 02:52 PM | #83 |
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07-03-2014, 03:10 PM | #84 | |
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This almost happened to me, although I would like to amend it with another rule: 24. If you're in a three seat row and the aisle seat somehow becomes empty for the flight, the person in the middle seat doesn't get to stay in the middle seat and stretch their legs on the open aisle seat the whole flight while sleeping. At least move to the aisle seat and allow me some room to spread my legs from my window seat. Was flying with my wife and child, but they had seats in the back since we booked so late and couldn't fly together. Instead, I had a random girl pretty much sleeping on my shoulder the whole flight. She just sat her feet up on the aisle seat and read a book until she fell asleep. She was hot, but even so, not cool. |
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07-03-2014, 03:16 PM | #85 | |
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07-03-2014, 04:25 PM | #86 |
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A corollary to this rule: If you mom, dad and three kids are traveling together, it's no OK for mom and and dad to sit in the same row with the baby and leave the other two kids for me to baby sit in another row.
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07-03-2014, 04:39 PM | #87 | |
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07-03-2014, 04:40 PM | #88 |
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I'm the guy that reclines the seat pretty much as soon as we level out. Most of the time I'm asleep for the first hour or so of any flight. I am not able to sleep without reclining ... I nod off and jerk awake as my head falls forward. Sorry. Last edited by Edward64 : 07-03-2014 at 04:43 PM. |
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I've never seen this work on a Delta flight. I do let others go first most of the time (and have been thanked by flight attendants) but it doesn't work. I think just before the plane gets to the gate the pilots and flight attendants have to be more proactive to orchestrate it. 1) Everyone, please stay seated 2) Those with tight connections please stand up 3) Those standing, please get into aisle etc. |
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I recently flew back from California, a direct flight from LAX to IAD. I was in business first (originally ticketed as such), but they didn't sell all the seats so did some gate upgrades for people. The guy who ended up in the seat in front of me was a guy who either didn't shower regularly or if he did/does, didn't use soap. He also had apparently never heard of deodorant (or if he did, he was using that natural crap that doesn't actually work). He adjusted his air vent so it was blowing directly onto his face/head...meaning I routinely was getting face-fulls of his BO. Very shortly after takeoff, I saw him start to talk to the person sitting next to him even though she was putting in her headphones. You could tell she didn't want to talk, and based on the snippets I heard, he was engaging her on topics such as Hillary Clinton and complaints that our flight's delay means that he wouldn't be able to get a smoke in before his connecting flight (to somewhere in the Middle East). Then he leaned back and, in addition to not being able to use my tray (it wouldn't come out of the armrest with him leaning back), I got more face-fulls of his BO. I actually pushed him back to an upright position a few times.
Man that was miserable. /tk
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See this is an opportunity for the flight attendant to resolve, because you are supposed to remain buckled up while seated. If you have your feet up on a seat you are not buckled up correctly. |
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I don’t fly much and every time I do I’m reminded why I don’t .
Flying to philly this am for a quick day trip. What is with all the fawking giant purses. I swear to God I’ve been hot by 40 different ladies boarding this flight strutting down the aisle and swinging their bags wildly. |
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08-17-2019, 09:05 AM | #94 |
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Forgot about this thread, good timing. I fly Delta pretty exclusively domestically and all we are is cattle.
I'll be flying international next weekend and looking forward to some better experience. It's Delta all the way but the international experience is much better. |
08-17-2019, 05:40 PM | #95 | |
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Tangentially related. She slipped through the interview process.
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08-17-2019, 07:24 PM | #96 |
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That's a person that has no place in society. WTF? Is she 12?
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08-17-2019, 07:35 PM | #97 | |
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Or how 'bout the d-bags with a full-size rolling bag, a backpack, and a laptop bag? How the hell do they carry this off as 'one item'? Saw this innumerable times the last time I flew. Also, after all the special-boarding types, why do they not board from back to front? Not that the aforementioned a-holes will adhere to the system in any event, but wouldn't it make more sense to get the back seats filled up first? Oh, and eff Delta. |
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08-17-2019, 08:05 PM | #98 |
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I fully support this....unless they are getting me to work or home, then I'll close my eyes and hold my nose.
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08-18-2019, 01:18 AM | #99 | |
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Given the war that airlines have declared on passenger luggage, anything that beats them at their own game is fair play afaic.
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08-18-2019, 07:30 AM | #100 |
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I think American is worse than Delta, though so much is through smaller carriers some of them might be the ones at fault.
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