Which current artists are future Rock&Roll HOF locks?

[MrBug708]

Blink-182 (Kind of kidding)

[kcchief19]

Have you seen who has actually made it to the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame? Based on the decreasing quality of the classes, we should be debating whether or not Gin Blossoms, Hootie & the Blowfish or Belle & Sebastian will get in, since almost everybody else that's been mentioned is a lock.

The only real "drama" to the hall of fame picks is the politics. The rap barrier was torn down a few years ago, now the disco barrier is torn down. Surprisingly, the barrier to metal era bands isn't completely down. Hey, I like The Pretenders, but how are they a first ballot HOFer and Bon Jovi isn't in yet?

The next big barriers that needs to come down is the New Wave and Punk walls. B-52s, Pet Shop Boys, The Cure and many others are worthy. I think they are just as much a part of rock & roll as Donna Summer.

[Matthean]

Originally Posted by Sun Tzu

the Metallica route of releasing an album once every six years

Overstate much? 10 albums, 29 years if numbers are right.

[ntndeacon]

The Punk wall is already down. there are several Punk groups in the hall already. Sex Pistols and the Ramones and the Stooges are in.

[Scoobz0202]

Re: The White Stripes

They have some really good stuff, but I think Jack White transcends The White Stripes. Whatever he touches is gold. Does that translate to sales? Nah. What does that mean? I dunno. I'm drunk.

[EagleFan]

Carly Rae Jepsen
Psy

[Passacaglia]

Red Hot Chili Peppers are probably a lock no one has mentioned yet.

[cartman]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Red Hot Chili Peppers are probably a lock no one has mentioned yet.

They were inducted this year.

[Passacaglia]

Told you.

[Ryche]

Pantera
Alice in Chains
Korn
Faith No More
Rage Against the Machine
Soundgarden

Probably none of these are locks but all had enough success and were influential enough to be real possibilities.

[CrimsonFox]

Dave Matthews Band
Alanis Morrisette
Stone Temple Pilots
Cranberries
Smashing Pumpkins
Radiohead
Natalie Merchant
Foo Fighters
Nirvana
Alice in Chains
Metallica
Anthrax
REM
Beastie Boys
Oasis
I can't pull the trigger on GoogooDolls, Hootie, or Live

[Abe Sargent]

Here's a group that no one mentioned, and really was unique in the impact it had, but really is hard to see as Rock even though the Hall has really added a lot of non-Rock artists. This group really changed things and had a ton of influence. The first time I encountered their music on MTV I didn't know music could do that.




What do you do with Enigma?

[frnk55]

RNR HoF is a joke. Why Kiss is not in it is beyond me. And finally Rush gets in which took way to long.

[Matthean]

Originally Posted by frnk55

RNR HoF is a joke. Why Kiss is not in it is beyond me. And finally Rush gets in which took way to long.

100% politics. I do find Kiss on the rather terrible side, but what they did for live shows and merchandise was simply unheard of at that time.

[kcchief19]

Originally Posted by ntndeacon

The Punk wall is already down. there are several Punk groups in the hall already. Sex Pistols and the Ramones and the Stooges are in.

I almost revised that sentence to say the Punk wall needs to come completely down. They have skimmed the top off of punk, but considering they have already moved on to the second and third tier stars of the '60s and '70s, but haven't even put in some of the best artists of the late '70s and early '80s because they are New Wave, ska, various forms of metal and whatnot.

Madonna is fine but she has absolutely nothing to do with Rock & Roll. So why is she in but Kiss, Chicago, Bon Jovi and others not?

[CrimsonFox]

Heh I just noticed that they announced the HOF bands! FUCKING FINALLY Rush gets in! Wooooooooooooo! However the fact that public enemy is in and Deep Purple is not is some major bullshit.

[booradley]

Originally Posted by Grover

I'll take some flack for this, but I'd say Oasis should get in.

Yes, I'm biased.

But they were a defining band of the 90s

You should NOT catch flak for this. Anybody gives u any trouble, send 'em to me!

[Passacaglia]

Are the Boo Radleys in yet?

[booradley]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Are the Boo Radleys in yet?

Oh, how I wish. I loved that band so f'in hard ... I saw them open for Better Than Ezra one night right here in Winston. I squealed like a little girl.

[frnk55]

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

However the fact that public enemy is in and Deep Purple is not is some major bullshit.

That is one of the reasons why the Rock Hall is a complete joke.

[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by frnk55

That is one of the reasons why the Rock Hall is a complete joke.

along with 911?

[ISiddiqui]

Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

I had them on my list initially, but they're over 10 years away from being eligible. If they never record another song, are they really a lock just based on their work up until now?

I'd say undoubtedly. While they may not have sold a ton of albums they have insane critical acclaim (regardless of 'grammy' wins). Jack White is considered a genius and the White Stripes his greatest creation (well, I guess if he keeps putting out amazing solo albums as his first one, he may just go in by himself).

[Matthean]

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

However the fact that public enemy is in and Deep Purple is not is some major bullshit.

I actually have little issue with PE being in. I do find it odd that Deep Purple isn't though.

[Maple Leafs]

What about Smashing Pumpkins?

[Maple Leafs]

Originally Posted by Abe Sargent

What do you do with Enigma?

I'm probably as big an Enigma fan as you're likely to find in this thread (was really into the first two albums way back when) but I don't see how they even get in the discussion. One breaktrhough album, one decent follow-up, then a whole lot of mostly bad pop.

Maybe you make the case for Cretu getting in as a producer but that's as far as I can imagine it going.

[korme]

How about Usher?

10 no. 1 singles, 4 no. 1 albums

[Passacaglia]

I never did order that Pure Moods CD.

[Ryan S]

Originally Posted by Swaggs

There are some others that are head scratchers (that they are not in):
Tom Petty?

Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers are in.

Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers: inducted in 2002 | The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and Museum

[BYU 14]

Props to Rush, long overdue.

Now how about Cheap Trick gets their deserved recognition. Huge in the late 70's early 80's and named by so many bands as a major influence, plus they still put on a solid live show, even though Robin's vocals are slipping a bit.

Edit: And yes on Deep Purple too

[Ryan S]

Surely they should change the name to "Music Hall of Fame".

A few of the recent inductees lately have been nothing like Rock bands. (Madonna, Abba, the various Hip Hop bands)

[cody8200]

Didn't see Ben Folds/Ben Folds Five. Should be a lock based on his body of work by himself and with his band.

[dawgfan]

I'm a big classic rock fan, but I think Deep Purple is not really HOF worthy.

[cartman]

If she continues at a decent pace, Adele had a pretty good shot at making it. But she is still 20+ years away from being eligible.

[Abe Sargent]

Originally Posted by korme

How about Usher?

10 no. 1 singles, 4 no. 1 albums

A lot of recent successes have that issue. I think the diversification of entertainment has resulted in even crappier popular music than before. Katy Perry has sold a ton of records and has a lot of albums and songs at or near the top, but she can barely hold a tune. Aristsi like her and Speras are no Madonna. They aren't even Kylie Minogue.


We are in an era of songbirds who do not write their own music, or write very litte. What do you do with Kelly Clarkson?


Another question in the Usher vein are what about Gloria Esteban?


Someone like Jay Z is in, but Usher is up for grabs and likely won;t I'd think. I'm shocked that a group like Dave Clark Five makes it in for following a trend and yet looking at the 90s and 00s and even further back we see issues with who makes it in.

[Bad-example]

Originally Posted by Ryan S

Surely they should change the name to "Music Hall of Fame".

A few of the recent inductees lately have been nothing like Rock bands. (Madonna, Abba, the various Hip Hop bands)

Yepper. I've always seen rap/hip hop as the opposite of rock and roll, certainly not a sub-genre.

[Matthean]

Originally Posted by Abe Sargent

What do you do with Kelly Clarkson?

She's not in unless her career has far longer legs than I think it does.

[Abe Sargent]

It's not lately. The inductees are full of R&B artists from the early rock era. Marvin Gaye and the Temptations aren;t anymore "rock" than Abba or Donna Summer. But then you have a weird definition of Rock. What artists and non-artists get in becomes really rough. Is Folk rock? Is a crossover artist, such as Johnny Cash, rock? Is bubblegum pop rock?

[johnnyshaka]

Weezer and Chris Cornell as he did some great stuff with Temple of the Dog, Soundgarden, Audioslave, and as a solo artist.

[kcchief19]

Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

What about Smashing Pumpkins?

If Smashing Pumpkins get in, it's time to shut the thing down.

[Maple Leafs]

Bumping this, after reading this post:
The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame of the Future «

They have many of the same locks that we did, including Pearl Jam, Green Day, Nine Inch Nails and Radiohead, and discuss the chances of others like Rage Against The Machine and Foo Fighters, plus a bunch of pop acts I wouldn't really have thought of.

[path12]

Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

Bumping this, after reading this post:
The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame of the Future «

They have many of the same locks that we did, including Pearl Jam, Green Day, Nine Inch Nails and Radiohead, and discuss the chances of others like Rage Against The Machine and Foo Fighters, plus a bunch of pop acts I wouldn't really have thought of.

When I saw this thread I was going to ask you if you pitched the idea to Hyden.

[rowech]

I'll be shocked if Pink doesn't make it in eventually.

[Izulde]

I have to wonder where Britney falls into this conversation. Overwhelming popular success, and she really re-ignited the teen pop phenomenon (for better or worse), so I think she has the influence factor as well.

[Matthean]

I heard a Pink song and keep being amazed she continues to be around. She'll be an interesting case. Britney might be a tough sell, but I could see it going either way. I don't think either get in for a long time though.

[rowech]

Originally Posted by Matthean

I heard a Pink song and keep being amazed she continues to be around. She'll be an interesting case. Britney might be a tough sell, but I could see it going either way. I don't think either get in for a long time though.

She isn't the type of music I listen to but every song I've heard from her has been completely different. To me she has a pretty amazing talent that most of today's crap only dreams of.

[ISiddiqui]

Personally I find Pink to fairly dull pop. She's got a great voice, but doesn't really do much interesting with it, IMO.

[ISiddiqui]

Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

Bumping this, after reading this post:
The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame of the Future «

They have many of the same locks that we did, including Pearl Jam, Green Day, Nine Inch Nails and Radiohead, and discuss the chances of others like Rage Against The Machine and Foo Fighters, plus a bunch of pop acts I wouldn't really have thought of.

I think if Eminem is a lock, then Kanye West is a lock of a lock, tbh.

[Matthean]

Kayne hasn't interested me in some time, but I think I'll concede the point.

[nol]

Critically, sure. But Eminem is in an entirely different stratosphere in terms of records sold (as in, more than Guns n' Roses or Britney Spears). I'm sure in terms of the Rock N' Roll Hall of Fame, that's like hitting 600 home runs.

[ISiddiqui]

Rock and Roll Hall of Fame also goes nuts for Grammy Awards and Kanye is like 8th all time or something like that (and likely should be at least one more for Album of the Year that My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy didn't even nominated for).

I just checked, and Kanye is indeed 8th all time in Grammys (1 less than U2): Grammy Award records - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia