NFL Week 9: Origins - Page 2

jbergey22 · 11-08-2009, 05:54 PM

Delhomme is worthless. Cost the Panthers another one.

Greyroofoo · 11-08-2009, 05:57 PM

Well looks like Delhomme is going to have to pass to win the game.

jbergey22 · 11-08-2009, 05:58 PM

Id wager he throws a pick 6 here.

Radii · 11-08-2009, 05:59 PM

Well, it was a great first half. Honestly until the final 4 minutes or so I think this is about as well as Carolina can play. Sucks about the last 4 minutes though.

Masked · 11-08-2009, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

Well anything is better than letting Delhomme pass but just looking at the numbers Williams(18-139) and Stewart(12-22) it just doesnt make sense in a game like this to not let Williams do his thing.

Perhaps not.

Tigercat · 11-08-2009, 06:00 PM

And the Saints remain undefeated when jbergey talks negatively about them, keep it up buddy!

dbd1963 · 11-08-2009, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

Panthers run game is too much for the S'aints'.

No.

jbergey22 · 11-08-2009, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Masked

Perhaps not.

Yeah he messed up there.

The Panthers were in control most of the game and that is when I would have been giving them a large dose of Deangelo instead of Stewart. Oh well! Thought the Panthers had them.

Lathum · 11-08-2009, 06:03 PM

I hate the playcall on third ond goal by the Giants. Playing for the FG and not the win,

jbergey22 · 11-08-2009, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Tigercat

And the Saints remain undefeated when jbergey talks negatively about them, keep it up buddy!

Congrats Tigercat. Your boys pulled one out at home against the worst qb in the league!

Eaglesfan27 · 11-08-2009, 06:04 PM

Tennessee with a nice pick. Could be 2-0 with Vince Young as a starter this year.

sabotai · 11-08-2009, 06:05 PM

I thought they should have gone for the TD too. They ran 30 more seconds off the clock, but with 1 TO, 2 minute warning and just over 2 minutes to play, that's plenty of time for SD to drive the field and get a TD. It would take a major fail on play calling for them to run out of time.

Radii · 11-08-2009, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

Congrats Tigercat. Your boys pulled one out at home against the worst qb in the league!

Jamarcus Russell would like to say something about this comment.

jbergey22 · 11-08-2009, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Radii

Jamarcus Russell would like to say something about this comment.

Haha, your right I should rephrase

Tigercat · 11-08-2009, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

Congrats Tigercat. Your boys pulled one out at home against the worst qb in the league!

All thanks to you, our little good luck charm. I know you want to be proven right in not believing in the Saints weeks and weeks ago, but you really need to learn when to step away from the table when you are losing over and over again. Or better yet don't, I am always greedy for more wins.

DeToxRox · 11-08-2009, 06:10 PM

Don't get why Carolina didn't kick the FG from the 8 with 40 seconds left and chance it on the onside kick and getting a TD. Yes, I get it's easier to an onside kick and a FG, but you have a better shot of even getting the onside kick with a FG right away.

Radii · 11-08-2009, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DeToxRox

Don't get why Carolina didn't kick the FG from the 8 with 40 seconds left and chance it on the onside kick and getting a TD. Yes, I get it's easier to an onside kick and a FG, but you have a better shot of even getting the onside kick with a FG right away.

I think they should have done it long before then, personally.

jbergey22 · 11-08-2009, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Tigercat

All thanks to you, our little good luck charm. I know you want to be proven right in not believing in the Saints weeks and weeks ago, but you really need to learn when to step away from the table when you are losing over and over again. Or better yet don't, I am always greedy for more wins.

Oh Im not too worried about them. Im just hoping for a northern playoff game for them so they can get bitchslapped. The Saints have these magical runs and the big bad Vikings come to town and end the fairytale. Think 87 and 01

The fans sit around chanting "Who dem Vikings gonna beat those Saints, who dat" Gets annoying then they get shut up in a hurry once the game starts.

Eaglesfan27 · 11-08-2009, 06:11 PM

Rivers just made that touchdown look easy.

DeToxRox · 11-08-2009, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Radii

I think they should have done it long before then, personally.

I just used that as a reference point. I saw on gametracker it was 1st and goal at the 8 but yeah for sure go before that. Just dumb.

Radii · 11-08-2009, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DeToxRox

I just used that as a reference point. I saw on gametracker it was 1st and goal at the 8 but yeah for sure go before that. Just dumb.

They got to the 31 with over a minute left and then to the 20 with 50 seconds left. My thinking is that you kick it on one of those two plays. Once you start to run plays inside the 20 I think you're committed to go for the TD, though the fact that they ran the ball up the middle on one of those plays is just freaking infuriating.

DeToxRox · 11-08-2009, 06:22 PM

Stafford gives Sanchez a run for his money with his 5th INT today. That said, three of the picks were in some form or another miscommunication between Stafford and Calvin, who haven't played together in nearly a month. Still, saw some good, and of course, a lot of bad. Once those two get on the same page though things will look up.

Lathum · 11-08-2009, 06:38 PM

absolutly inexcusable loss. Horrible penalties and terrible playcalling at the end.

Third and goal and Coughlin calls a draw that he knows won't result in a TD. Plays it safe for the FG to go up six. I knew right there the game was over. On what planet does he think the defense would be able to hold?

Oilers9911 · 11-08-2009, 06:41 PM

Eli is less clutch than Romo.

Vince, Pt. II · 11-08-2009, 06:49 PM

Sigh. This is the Alex Smith that we all knew before he came back. Though he looked pretty good on that drive near the end of the first half, the rest of the game was pretty much atrocious.

Atocep · 11-08-2009, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Oilers9911

Eli is less clutch than Romo.

ARod is around to teach him how to be clutch, though, so no worries.

tucker rocky · 11-08-2009, 06:50 PM

TB breaking out the ugly creamsicle for a win against GB.

Matthean · 11-08-2009, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DeToxRox

Hey Seahawks fans, can the 12th man play defense too?

Hell we'll probably lose but how often can I gloat about the Lions taking a team out behind the woodshed?

Just wanted to quote this for this humor factor and anybody thinking the Lions would win based on one quarter of play. Not that DeToxRox did.

RendeR · 11-08-2009, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by tucker rocky

TB breaking out the ugly creamsicle for a win against GB.

I miss the Orange adn whites. I like the red and pewter, don't get me wrong, but the BUccaneers will always be wearing the Orange and White in my mind.

Dr. Sak · 11-08-2009, 09:25 PM

It's funny how at times Wade Philips looks as old and confused as Bobby Bowden.

Abe Sargent · 11-08-2009, 10:25 PM

Refs sometimes piss me off

TroyF · 11-08-2009, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Abe Sargent

Refs sometimes piss me off

I'm still trying to figure out how the QB sneak wasn't a first down. When you have a play like that, either the line stones them, or the QB gets the few inches he needs for the first down.

Not only could you clearly see the line didn't stone them, it was very clear that McNabb slid over the pile and didn't lande until the tip of the Eagles wings. You could easily do a ball placement based off of the field marker.

That was beyond a horrible call. Of course Andy loses his TO over it and the Cowboys get the ball in great field position. I'm stunned at not only how bad the call was, but how the announcers tripped over themselves to cover for the refs who made the horrible call.

spleen1015 · 11-08-2009, 10:36 PM

Atlanta coach goes Woody Hayes on Deangelo Hall today and no one says anything? WTF?

Hall is a douche and deserved an ass whipping but Smith should get in trouble too.

TroyF · 11-08-2009, 10:44 PM

Smith should get in HUGE trouble for his actions. Coaches should be held to a higher standard.

Tasan · 11-08-2009, 10:51 PM

NFC East first place Dallas Cowboys!

bhlloy · 11-08-2009, 10:54 PM

Some pretty bad end of game management right there by Reid, although he probably got screwed on both challenges. It looked like he made it, but you are also never going to get a spot on a QB sneak changed. There's just too many bodies in the way for irrefutable evidence. Although he might not of got out of the stadium alive if he hadn't challenged I think the smart play would have been to save the last time out.

bhlloy · 11-08-2009, 10:56 PM

DOLA - definitely would have gone for it on 4th near the end. One Dallas first down and the game is basically over, and if you don't get the first you are basically in the same position needing a stop anyway. FG just doesn't make a lot of sense right there IMO.

jbergey22 · 11-08-2009, 11:10 PM

These Eagles sure do struggle putting up back to back good games dont they? Cowboys defense looked a lot better tonight. Still dont understand why they are limiting Barber so much but it appears the Cowboys are the team to beat in the NFC East.

Tasan · 11-08-2009, 11:32 PM

From what I hear, the Cowboys are limiting Barber for a few reasons.

1. They like the other guys too. Choice had some real nice runs. Jones can hit some home runs.
2. His groin is still a little tweaked. Notice how he's not fighting through everything like he used to.
3. Related to 2, they like to use him as a battering ram in the 4th if possible, and really like to have him fresh.

RendeR · 11-09-2009, 12:18 AM

Oh and just to add:

BUCK FALTIMORE!!!

JeeberD · 11-09-2009, 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by bhlloy

Some pretty bad end of game management right there by Reid, although he probably got screwed on both challenges.

Huh? I understand how you can say that he possibly got screwed on the second challenge, but on the first it was obvious that his own momentum took him behind the first down marker. No screw job there at all...

Thomkal · 11-09-2009, 06:51 AM

My Cards are driving me crazy this year-undefeated on the road after their abysmal road record of the past and then being blown out at home a couple times. Thank God they are in the NFC West. A win against Seattle this week could all but lock up the division with the way SF and STL are playing right now.

RendeR · 11-09-2009, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by JeeberD

Huh? I understand how you can say that he possibly got screwed on the second challenge, but on the first it was obvious that his own momentum took him behind the first down marker. No screw job there at all...

But Jeebs, by rule his forward progress aka, where he caught the ball, has nothing to do with his momentum. He got shafted nearly a yard on the first review.

The second one was just a pure fuck job.

Philly can't blame the loss on those calls though, they screwed themselves with too many plays for loss and people dropping very catchable passes.

DeToxRox · 11-09-2009, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Matthean

Just wanted to quote this for this humor factor and anybody thinking the Lions would win based on one quarter of play. Not that DeToxRox did.

And you know what? It was still worth it for 1 quarter.

Eaglesfan27 · 11-09-2009, 09:36 AM

The Chiefs are supposedly releasing Larry Johnson today.

DaddyTorgo · 11-09-2009, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

The Chiefs are supposedly releasing Larry Johnson today.

really? wows

DaddyTorgo · 11-09-2009, 09:53 AM

ouch

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In a tersely worded statement Monday, the Kansas City Chiefs announced that embattled running back Larry Johnson has been released.
Johnson on Sunday served a one-game suspension for making gay slurs. He was 75 yards from breaking Priest Holmes' franchise record (6,070) for career rushing yards.

75 yds...that's a giant "Fuck you" if i've ever seen one

TroyF · 11-09-2009, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by JeeberD

Huh? I understand how you can say that he possibly got screwed on the second challenge, but on the first it was obvious that his own momentum took him behind the first down marker. No screw job there at all...

I didn't have a problem with the first call. They got it right.

The second call? No, they didn't get "possibly" screwed. They got raped without lube. The call was missed on the field and on clear replay angles. I don't think it was bias for the Cowboys, I think it was yet another case of horrible reffing that is happening too much right now. (I still can't figure out how the refs couldn't see that the lines held firm and the QB moved forward. If that happens, the QB had to have gotten the two inches. The only way a QB sneak is stopped is if the defense pushes the offense back and the QB goes NOWHERE. That call was every bit as bad as the LSU/Bama call yesterday. Hey, wait a minutes, was this an SEC crew officiating this?)

Thomkal · 11-09-2009, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by spleen1015

Atlanta coach goes Woody Hayes on Deangelo Hall today and no one says anything? WTF?

Hall is a douche and deserved an ass whipping but Smith should get in trouble too.

So what exactly happened here? I've not really seen much about it in the recaps or paper.

JeeberD · 11-09-2009, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by RendeR

But Jeebs, by rule his forward progress aka, where he caught the ball, has nothing to do with his momentum. He got shafted nearly a yard on the first review.

So you're saying that if a RB gets the ball and runs to the 40, but then cuts back to avoid a tackler and gets brought down at the 38 that the ball should be spotted at the 40? Forward progress has to do with a defender moving the ball carrier backwards, correct?

11-08-2009, 06:04 PM	#61
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11-08-2009, 06:11 PM	#69
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	Rivers just made that touchdown look easy. __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen.

11-08-2009, 10:25 PM	#81
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11-08-2009, 10:36 PM	#83
spleen1015 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003	Atlanta coach goes Woody Hayes on Deangelo Hall today and no one says anything? WTF? Hall is a douche and deserved an ass whipping but Smith should get in trouble too. __________________ Why choose failure when success is an option?

11-08-2009, 10:51 PM	#85
Tasan College Starter Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Houston, or there about	NFC East first place Dallas Cowboys! __________________ 2011 Golden Scribes winner for best Interactive Dynasty

11-08-2009, 05:57 PM	#52
Greyroofoo Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Alabama	Well looks like Delhomme is going to have to pass to win the game.

11-08-2009, 05:58 PM	#53
jbergey22 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Minnesota	Id wager he throws a pick 6 here.

11-08-2009, 05:59 PM	#54
Radii Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Well, it was a great first half. Honestly until the final 4 minutes or so I think this is about as well as Carolina can play. Sucks about the last 4 minutes though.

11-08-2009, 06:00 PM	#56
Tigercat College Starter Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Federal Way, WA	And the Saints remain undefeated when jbergey talks negatively about them, keep it up buddy!

11-08-2009, 06:03 PM	#59
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	I hate the playcall on third ond goal by the Giants. Playing for the FG and not the win,

11-08-2009, 06:05 PM	#62
sabotai General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Satellite of Love	I thought they should have gone for the TD too. They ran 30 more seconds off the clock, but with 1 TO, 2 minute warning and just over 2 minutes to play, that's plenty of time for SD to drive the field and get a TD. It would take a major fail on play calling for them to run out of time.

11-08-2009, 06:10 PM	#66
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	Don't get why Carolina didn't kick the FG from the 8 with 40 seconds left and chance it on the onside kick and getting a TD. Yes, I get it's easier to an onside kick and a FG, but you have a better shot of even getting the onside kick with a FG right away.

11-08-2009, 06:22 PM	#72
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	Stafford gives Sanchez a run for his money with his 5th INT today. That said, three of the picks were in some form or another miscommunication between Stafford and Calvin, who haven't played together in nearly a month. Still, saw some good, and of course, a lot of bad. Once those two get on the same page though things will look up.

11-08-2009, 06:38 PM	#73
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	absolutly inexcusable loss. Horrible penalties and terrible playcalling at the end. Third and goal and Coughlin calls a draw that he knows won't result in a TD. Plays it safe for the FG to go up six. I knew right there the game was over. On what planet does he think the defense would be able to hold?

11-08-2009, 06:41 PM	#74
Oilers9911 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2006	Eli is less clutch than Romo.

11-08-2009, 06:49 PM	#75
Vince, Pt. II Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Somewhere More Familiar	Sigh. This is the Alex Smith that we all knew before he came back. Though he looked pretty good on that drive near the end of the first half, the rest of the game was pretty much atrocious.

11-08-2009, 06:50 PM	#77
tucker rocky Pro Rookie Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Of no particular interest	TB breaking out the ugly creamsicle for a win against GB.

11-08-2009, 09:25 PM	#80
Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	It's funny how at times Wade Philips looks as old and confused as Bobby Bowden.

11-08-2009, 10:44 PM	#84
TroyF Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Smith should get in HUGE trouble for his actions. Coaches should be held to a higher standard.

11-08-2009, 10:54 PM	#86
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	Some pretty bad end of game management right there by Reid, although he probably got screwed on both challenges. It looked like he made it, but you are also never going to get a spot on a QB sneak changed. There's just too many bodies in the way for irrefutable evidence. Although he might not of got out of the stadium alive if he hadn't challenged I think the smart play would have been to save the last time out.

11-08-2009, 10:56 PM	#87
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	DOLA - definitely would have gone for it on 4th near the end. One Dallas first down and the game is basically over, and if you don't get the first you are basically in the same position needing a stop anyway. FG just doesn't make a lot of sense right there IMO.

11-08-2009, 11:10 PM	#88
jbergey22 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Minnesota	These Eagles sure do struggle putting up back to back good games dont they? Cowboys defense looked a lot better tonight. Still dont understand why they are limiting Barber so much but it appears the Cowboys are the team to beat in the NFC East.

11-08-2009, 11:32 PM	#89
Tasan College Starter Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Houston, or there about	From what I hear, the Cowboys are limiting Barber for a few reasons. 1. They like the other guys too. Choice had some real nice runs. Jones can hit some home runs. 2. His groin is still a little tweaked. Notice how he's not fighting through everything like he used to. 3. Related to 2, they like to use him as a battering ram in the 4th if possible, and really like to have him fresh. __________________ 2011 Golden Scribes winner for best Interactive Dynasty

11-09-2009, 12:18 AM	#90
RendeR Coordinator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Buffalo, NY	Oh and just to add: BUCK FALTIMORE!!! __________________ http://wotlabs.net/s...8/signature.png http://wotlabs.net/sig_dark/na/banichi18/signature.png

11-09-2009, 06:51 AM	#92
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	My Cards are driving me crazy this year-undefeated on the road after their abysmal road record of the past and then being blown out at home a couple times. Thank God they are in the NFC West. A win against Seattle this week could all but lock up the division with the way SF and STL are playing right now.

11-09-2009, 09:36 AM	#95
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	The Chiefs are supposedly releasing Larry Johnson today. __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen.

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